I've just flashed Indian ICS on my SGSII and have also rooted it. Now, I want to reset the binary counters and remove the yellow triangle with the help of USB JIG. The problem is that newer bootloader is preventing me to use it. So, obviously, I want an old bootloader.
SO THE QUESTION IS - Where can I get it from?
From here
Why don't you just use Triangle Away?
Paras Lehana said:
I've just flashed Indian ICS on my SGSII and have also rooted it. Now, I want to reset the binary counters and remove the yellow triangle with the help of USB JIG. The problem is that newer bootloader is preventing me to use it. So, obviously, I want an old bootloader.
SO THE QUESTION IS - Where can I get it from?
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for this moment, it wont be possible except u downgrade whole rom to gingerbread as if u flash old bootloader (gb based), the ICS will maybe not booting up anymore.
u should reset all those thing before you are upgrading to ICS, well i never had any of those YT/BC if we know the way around it.
the only option : whole rom downgrade to GB, but honestly, i am not sure if it is plausible to do with odin.
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ctomgee said:
Why don't you just use Triangle Away?
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this will/maybe will only remove yellow triangle, not binary counter as binary counter still need to be reset with usb jig in which only in old bootloader (gb) is possible as samsung patched the exploit already afterwards
creezalird said:
for this moment, it wont be possible except u downgrade whole rom to gingerbread as if u flash old bootloader (gb based), the ICS will maybe not booting up anymore.
u should reset all those thing before you are upgrading to ICS, well i never had any of those YT/BC if we know the way around it.
the only option : whole rom downgrade to GB, but honestly, i am not sure if it is plausible to do with odin.
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You can safely use the old GB bootloader with ICS.
Old bootloader
http://androidfirmwares.net/Tools/Download/4
ICS Bootloader
http://androidfirmwares.net/Tools/Download/2
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creezalird said:
for this moment, it wont be possible except u downgrade whole rom to gingerbread as if u flash old bootloader (gb based), the ICS will maybe not booting up anymore.
u should reset all those thing before you are upgrading to ICS, well i never had any of those YT/BC if we know the way around it.
the only option : whole rom downgrade to GB, but honestly, i am not sure if it is plausible to do with odin.
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this will/maybe will only remove yellow triangle, not binary counter as binary counter still need to be reset with usb jig in which only in old bootloader (gb) is possible as samsung patched the exploit already afterwards
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As bored_stupid already said, old bootloader works fine on ICS. Many have done it. And TriangleAway DOES reset the counter.
You should read and research more before trying to correct others.
ctomgee said:
As bored_stupid already said, old bootloader works fine on ICS. Many have done it. And TriangleAway DOES reset the counter.
You should read and research more before trying to correct others.
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i am sorry as i thought he was asking regarding the G version, not the non G, as in G version, even triangleaway seems to be not working.
ctomgee said:
Why don't you just use Triangle Away?
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I could use it but I like to do things that i can't find.
I knew about triangle away but if I just take it as the ultimate thing to do, it'd prevent me from learning new things.
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@Creezalird...you were exactly right for the G variant as of very less development for it.
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Anyone having the knowledge ...
Will flashing bootloaders change something?
I mean, they provides the commands for the device while booting, right?. So..?
Also, flashing it by selecting PDA? What if I select Bootloader in Odin?
UPDATE - GOT THE ANSWER
You can select any one - PDA or Bootloader
You can flash the new bootloader again but that won't change anything except disabling usage of USB JIG
Bottom line; don't mess with bootloaders unless you have a specific reason for wanting to flash them. For example, you've messed around with stock ICS & you're switching to CM9 and current bootloader doesn't work or you want to use a jig to reset the flash counter & it won't work with current bootloader.
Flashing a bootloader 'just to see what happens' is asking for a dead phone.
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Bottom line; don't mess with bootloaders unless you have a specific reason for wanting to flash them. For example, you've messed around with stock ICS & you're switching to CM9 and current bootloader doesn't work or you want to use a jig to reset the flash counter & it won't work with current bootloader.
Flashing a bootloader 'just to see what happens' is asking for a dead phone.
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Dude! I know that. Bootloaders are the reason for the device to boot.
Well, I have never used a Custom ROM plus what if I flash the old bootloader, use the JIG and again flash the previous one.
Still, it may have risk, right? But for me, every task in this universe has the same...so that means you can't dare to try anything??
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what you could try
flash over one of siyah kernals they have removed yellow triangle
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Hey guys
I've never modded my phone at all when it comes to custom ROM's, etc. My friend told me today that he flashed a CM9 ICS nightly build and it sparked some interest in me.
I read that to get the CM9 ROM you need to have CWM installed on your phone. Is that necessary? If so, why?
I also read that it will void my phones warranty if I install CWM...now obviously nothing is "suppose" to go wrong with the phone while doing this process and I heard that if the phone is soft bricked it can be recovered with nvflash (is this true?).
Finally, is there anything stopping me from flashing a stock bootloader (is that what CWM is?) onto the phone and then a stock ROM, allowing me to do a return on the phone without them knowing?
I'm completely new to this and this whole forum is so confusing and the only real easy instructions I found were on the CM9 site.
Thanks guys,
Elliott
EDIT: I also just saw on this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uK-k3KfY5c
He used some sort of USB dongle at the end for something...what did it do?
Everything you need and more in the relevant thread. With such basic questions and the apparent lack of ability to search, read and digest information, you would be wiser to stick to stock, official ROMs though.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1419102
Thanks but of course that did not answer any of my questions. I have already seen that and obviously you didn't read my post correctly. I am more interested in the warranty issues with doing this...and if it's possible to comletely revert everything to the point where they can't tell what was done with the phone...I have searched around.
What issues do you think you'll run into that will warrant you sending the phone in? Im on my second samsung phone and they've been flawless, warranty be damned, flash away.
CWM "clockworkmod" is a recovery mode replacement for the stock SGS2.
It's used to do a number of things, one of which is to flash items to the device such as full roms or kernels. I'll let you read up on the rest. Without the need to have your device connected to a pc.
Flashing anything unofficial is bound to void your warranty whether via CWM or Odin etc.
The older bootloader allows the use of a USB jig to reset the warning triangle and flash counter to conceal any warranty voiding activity. At some point (can't remember when) Samsung updated the bootloader to prevent the jig working. A simple flash of the older one fixes the issue and doesn't appear to affect the device usage.
There are some great articles on xda to read about flashing etc. Worth a look.
Hope this helps.
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peachpuff said:
What issues do you think you'll run into that will warrant you sending the phone in? Im on my second samsung phone and they've been flawless, warranty be damned, flash away.
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Hey
Well I'm not planning on the phone having any issues...but you never know what could happen...When I first got my SGS2 the home button stopped working within 24 hours and I had to go back and get another one...
I'm just saying anything could happen...ex: buttons breaking, etc.
aceofclubs said:
CWM "clockworkmod" is a recovery mode replacement for the stock SGS2.
It's used to do a number of things, one of which is to flash items to the device such as full roms or kernels. I'll let you read up on the rest. Without the need to have your device connected to a pc.
Flashing anything unofficial is bound to void your warranty whether via CWM or Odin etc.
The older bootloader allows the use of a USB jig to reset the warning triangle and flash counter to conceal any warranty voiding activity. At some point (can't remember when) Samsung updated the bootloader to prevent the jig working. A simple flash of the older one fixes the issue and doesn't appear to affect the device usage.
There are some great articles on xda to read about flashing etc. Worth a look.
Hope this helps.
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Hey thanks for posting.
So you're saying that if I flash CWM, and then need to return the phone for whatever reason, I can install the original Samsung recovery tool that was there prior to installing CWM? Is that what you mean by "a simple flash of the older one..."?
Basically, if I ever need to return the phone, can I make it reset 100% original so that even if they knew how to check for stuff like CM9 and CWM, they wouldn't be able to find out that it was ever installed?
And when Samsung releases their official firmware and I decide I want to flash to that one, can I still use it? I'm guessing I could just flash it normally using CWM, but what if I wanted to go back to 100% original and update from there?
Starholdest said:
Thanks but of course that did not answer any of my questions. I have already seen that and obviously you didn't read my post correctly.
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Well that kind of attitude just irks me.
Unless I lack the ability to count, you asked a total of five questions, all of which are answered in that thread and countless others around this forum.
Anyway, your apparent main concern has to do with wanting to commit fraud. If you're okay with that, keep going. I guess since you're happy to break forum rules (rule #1), why not try and fudge a warranty claim?
Yes you can return your device to completely Telco/carrier stock.
If you want to do it...
Make a CWM backup.
Backup everything to pc from internal SD. A simple copy will do.
Use CWM to format internal SD.
Boot into download mode and flash Telco/carrier stock firmware via Odin.
Use jig to reset flash counter.
Use stock recovery to wipe device.
This should be as it was when you pulled it out of the box on day one.
When you get it back use cfroot kernel to root via Odin.
Copy SD card backup from pc to SD.
Restore CWM backup.
Should now be as it was before resetting to stock. Except maybe the modem if you like a different one from Telco/carrier stock.
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aceofclubs said:
Yes you can return your device to completely Telco/carrier stock.
If you want to do it...
Make a CWM backup.
Backup everything to pc from internal SD. A simple copy will do.
Use CWM to format internal SD.
Boot into download mode and flash Telco/carrier stock firmware via Odin.
Use jig to reset flash counter.
Use stock recovery to wipe device.
This should be as it was when you pulled it out of the box on day one.
When you get it back use cfroot kernel to root via Odin.
Copy SD card backup from pc to SD.
Restore CWM backup.
Should now be as it was before resetting to stock. Except maybe the modem if you like a different one from Telco/carrier stock.
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Excellent thanks for your help!
So as soon as I boot into download mode and flash telco/carrier stock firmware via Odin, will CWM be erased? Also, what about what this gentleman said?
The older bootloader allows the use of a USB jig to reset the warning triangle and flash counter to conceal any warranty voiding activity. At some point (can't remember when) Samsung updated the bootloader to prevent the jig working.
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What if I have the updated bootloader?
Yes CWM is removed by flashing official firmware so original recovery from then.
If jig doesn't work use Odin to flash the old bootloader. It definitely will work then.
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aceofclubs said:
Yes CWM is removed by flashing official firmware so original recovery from then.
If jig doesn't work use Odin to flash the old bootloader. It definitely will work then.
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Great thanks for all your help.
Going here to see the stock firmware (I guess bootloader is the same thing?), and scrolling down to the "Bell" section, there are two items listed there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1113928
UGKG2: http://www.multiupload.com/WHKOJ8A5FG
Firmware info: PDA: UGKG2 Phone: UGKG2 CSC: BMCKG2
UGKG2 Stock Kernel:http://www.multiupload.com/43QUKBBK47
Password is: [email protected]
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What's the difference between the two?
The first link has the entire rom, the 2nd has just the kernel. However...
These links have been dead for a while now, so you'll need to head over to Samfirmware.com & search for the firmware you need. Follow whatever instructions they have for flashing firmware downloaded from their site.
Starholdest said:
Great thanks for all your help.
Going here to see the stock firmware (I guess bootloader is the same thing?), and scrolling down to the "Bell" section, there are two items listed there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1113928
What's the difference between the two?
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Thanks. And what is the difference between just the kernel and the whole thing? Is kernel just another word for bootloader? I looked up the terms briefly...
Also, samfirmware.com doesn't have the one I have...is there another source or something?
The rom has stuff like themes, fonts, and other stuff (nuts & bolts) the kernel is like the engine (controls stuff like WiFi, controls everything you can do as root, etc). The package containing the whole rom also has the kernel in it.
No idea. Do a Google search. Alternatively, you can get the latest firmware available for your country/carrier (which may or may not be the same as the one you're looking for, depending on whether the carrier has updated firmware since the one you're looking for was released) with the PC version of Checkfus (do a search for it on here Google).
Edit to add - A better analogy for rom/kernel. Think of your phone as a car. The kernel is the engine, the rom is everything else/the car itself.
Starholdest said:
Thanks. And what is the difference between just the kernel and the whole thing?
Also, samfirmware.com doesn't have the one I have...is there another source or something?
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Bootloader etc.
Starholdest said:
Excellent thanks for your help!
So as soon as I boot into download mode and flash telco/carrier stock firmware via Odin, will CWM be erased? Also, what about what this gentleman said?
What if I have the updated bootloader?
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I think everyone has cleared everything else for you, so I'll talk about the jig! Firstly you most likely have the new bootloader so your flash counter will still be on, therefore your warranty will still be void. LUCKILY there's an app called TriangleAway (made my Chainfire) which you can find with a simple search, this will let you reset your flash counter and get rid of the yellow triangle as long as you're running a rooted ICS ROM (like CM9) and you can then flash back to stock and all traces of any root will be gone. There is a warning that the app can brick your phone but through my many uses of it, it has never happened and no-one has reported any brick.
Cool thanks for your help!
A simple question that I couldn't find here.
I used to use the old booloader on Gingerbread 2.3.6, in order to make the JIG work.
Now I use ICS 4.0.3 LPQ, and I want the JIG working...
The question is...
Can I use the same old bootloader from GB on a ICS rom?? Will it brick my mobile If I flash it?
I know about the app "triangle away" which resets the binary counter, but I wonder If some day I can't enter the download mode for any reason.
Thanks!
Old bootloader: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
jig should get you to download mode no matter which bootloader you're using, but it will reset counter only on old bootloader
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Stealing this thread a little bit..
Regarding the Binary Count, is there any way to check it?
I had triangle, then installed Resurrection 1.0, which removed the triangle.
Does this mean that the count is reset? Any way to check?
Thank you
Pls install triangle away and open it...it will show the count....i tried and it works like gem......
Or goto vol down power and home key combination there also it will shw the xount
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Makrilli said:
jig should get you to download mode no matter which bootloader you're using, but it will reset counter only on old bootloader
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But after I installed ICS jig doesn't lead me to download mode anymore...
ocaldini said:
A simple question that I couldn't find here.
I used to use the old booloader on Gingerbread 2.3.6, in order to make the JIG work.
Now I use ICS 4.0.3 LPQ, and I want the JIG working...
The question is...
Can I use the same old bootloader from GB on a ICS rom?? Will it brick my mobile If I flash it?
I know about the app "triangle away" which resets the binary counter, but I wonder If some day I can't enter the download mode for any reason.
Thanks!
Old bootloader: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
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Makrilli said:
jig should get you to download mode no matter which bootloader you're using, but it will reset counter only on old bootloader
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Just try what Makrilli suggested and use CWM to flash the old bootloader, not the standard download mode. Other users reported it works (as bootloader is not FW related, so it seems), google is your friend.
JIG_ON firmware routine location
Fevves said:
Just try what Makrilli suggested and use CWM to flash the old bootloader, not the standard download mode. Other users reported it works (as bootloader is not FW related, so it seems), google is your friend.
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guYs,
I don't have a SGS2 but a SGY but the jig business still kinda applies.
reason for some above statements is obviously, that on many fone pcbs you have those JIG_ON and JIG_ON_JTAG hardware signals. the jig, on some boards, is kinda hardwired-OR to the POWER_ON signal. on SGY, JIG_ON powers up the device which is a process you cannot possibly keep from happening by an updated firmware. also jig leads to FACTORY MODE whereas via 3-button-combo you get to ODIN MODE. would be interesting to know where this "FACTORY MODE" is located in firmware, exactly ...
Fevves said:
Just try what Makrilli suggested and use CWM to flash the old bootloader, not the standard download mode. Other users reported it works (as bootloader is not FW related, so it seems), google is your friend.
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How do I use CWM to flash the bootloader? It only lets install zip files. It won't let me install the md5 file. I ask because I flashed the old bootloader using Odin but it wont reset my counter so I was thinking about flashing it using CWM.
ocaldini said:
A simple question that I couldn't find here.
I used to use the old booloader on Gingerbread 2.3.6, in order to make the JIG work.
Now I use ICS 4.0.3 LPQ, and I want the JIG working...
The question is...
Can I use the same old bootloader from GB on a ICS rom?? Will it brick my mobile If I flash it?
I know about the app "triangle away" which resets the binary counter, but I wonder If some day I can't enter the download mode for any reason.
Thanks!
Old bootloader: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
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In the thread you referenced, just scroll down to the section in bold red and read it carefully. This worked perfectly for me, including reinstalling the new bootloader.
Hi @all...
I never thought rooting the phone (to get the CM9 nightlies) was such a complicated ordeal. I've no clue how much time I spent reading threads and evaluating all the possible ways to root.
I want to avoid increasing the flash counter by all means as I still have one year of warranty left... just to be on the safe side. Unfortunately I already have Android 2.3.6 (kernel 2.6.35.7-...LA4) on the phone, so from what I was able to figure out on my own, this means SuperOneClick or in general zergRushExploit based roots won't work anymore since the leak has been fixed. I could flash an insecure kernel but some people say that in general everything flashed through Odin will increase the flash counter and others say, that flashing an insecure kernel won't do anything to the counter (the whole idea would be kinda pointless if it didn't imho). Also there is the talk of a newer bootloader which will prevent resetting the counter. So much information to digest...
So, I would really like to ask for some friendly help. Is there any way to root the i9100 without increasing the flash counter that will still work with my current firmware and that I can use as a stepping stone to flash the CM9 nightlies? Or some alternative I am not seeing? (except for staying on stock)
Thanks a lot for helping me out in advance...
matthew.
Zergrush 4 (Doomlord) works on KL1 2.3.6 - I'm on it.
No "counter" issues
Also if you do increase your counter there is triangle away app which resets it to 0 without a jig.
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Get a jig...
It costs only a dollars or so!!!
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What you can do is:
go to the cm9 user discussion and flash the recommended bootloader
download the clockwork mod recovery from the rom manager website, gapps and latest cm nightly then place it on your external SD card and not the internal
Using stock recovery navigate to the clockwork recovery zip and apply
It will bring up clockwork mod recovery
Do a factory reset...then you can wipe system/data/cache partition from mounts and storage but its optional (I did this because I just wanted a super clean install)
Install the nightly and gapps
you have succesfuly installed CM9
Enjoy
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koolshubh said:
Get a jig...
It costs only a dollars or so!!!
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A jig won't work on 2.3.6 onwards..
And just remember triangle away app only works on ics...
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First of all, thanks @all for your help.
@LenAsh: If KL1 is your kernel build version, you are actually on a older kernel. If it is your firmware version, you are newer though (KI4 here). The reason why I am pointing this out is that I have read in both developer threads, that with LA4 kernels and/or Android >= 2.3.6, the exploits used won't work. But again, there were also people reporting otherwise. Could you maybe clearify what exact versions you are on, please?
@st3chn0: Hm, won't flashing the bootloader also increase the dreaded flash counter because it is done through Odin?
@Li4m79: I know. What I haven't figured out so far (and maybe you can help me out on this one): Is the requirement an "ICS bootloader" or really ICS? So if I flash CM9 from my GB stock and keep the bootloader as is, will I still be able to use the Triangle Away app?
So long,
matthias
2.3.6 - in my sig
LenAsh said:
2.3.6 - in my sig
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Ok, that I got the first time. But it is just part of the story. Firmware and kernel version would be nice to know. Thanks.
BinaryKhaos said:
First of all, thanks @all for your help.
@st3chn0: Hm, won't flashing the bootloader also increase the dreaded flash counter because it is done through Odin?
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Flashing just the bootloader wont do anything to the bootloader since its the samsung official bootloader... only things such as custom kernels etc (not verified by samsung themselves) will increase the counter
BinaryKhaos said:
First of all, thanks @all for your help.
@Li4m79: I know. What I haven't figured out so far (and maybe you can help me out on this one): Is the requirement an "ICS bootloader" or really ICS? So if I flash CM9 from my GB stock and keep the bootloader as is, will I still be able to use the Triangle Away app?
So long,
matthias
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Not sure mate... but if you are flashing cm9 why keep the boot loader? ... just flash cm9 and then use triangle away...
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Hello, I hope it's okay to resurrect this for a related question.
I've got my SGSII (I9100) only a couple of days ago, but coming from another android (which is nowadays lowend: I5800) which was always rooted I couldn't stay un-rooted for long. I've rooted using su/busybox injection via temporary CWM, as that obviously doesn't increase flash count (and consequently doesn't cause the yellow triangle).
I'm a bit worried about possibly needing warranty at some point, when the phone is in a state where I can't use it anymore to use "triangle away" (like display hardware issues, whatever) but Samsung can read the flash counter (possibly denying warranty).
So on to my actual question: I tried to find some clear information about what exactly causes the flash counter to increase and/or causes the yellow triangle. There isn't any sticky about it (in any of the sticky thread collections), so could someone clarify that for me?
My phone already shipped with ICS, I would conclude that I already have one of the new bootloaders that can no longer be reset using a jig (unless I flash an old one just for this, obviously).
I've read the only operation that can cause triangcle/counter increase is flashing a kernel (and rom with a kernel) in download mode (Odin) and that Samsungs own (unmodified) kernels are always OK to flash. Correct so far?
Concluding from that, it would mean that any nandroid restore operation would also be safe (for returning to some custom rom after testing/disliking a different one). Just like applying and update.zip (including things like flashing a rom this way). Still correct, I hope?
I really wish there was a sticky explaining this in detail, not just the existence of the counter/triangle and that it's possible to get rid of it, but not how to avoid getting it in the first place.
You can use for ics triangle away app and for GB u can use the one click root
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For my case when i needed to flash GB i upgraded the os to ICS and rooted the ICS then i installed odin for mobile and then i flashed the GB again with ODIN from my mobile and i already reset my counters with triangle away in the 1st step try this one it will make u happy lol
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moe.nassef said:
You can use for ics triangle away app and for GB u can use the one click root
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Thanks for the reply, but I already know that. It will most likely be no problem to reset, but writing to the bootloader always entails a certain risk (of hard brick), however slim. This is also clearly stated in the "triangle away" description and forum thread.
Since the knowledge of what exactly increments the counter is surely out there, I'd just like to avoid doing those things in the first place.
Can you confirm/deny my statements above? Like about odin/update.zip and so on?
TheCreat said:
Thanks for the reply, but I already know that. It will most likely be no problem to reset, but writing to the bootloader always entails a certain risk (of hard brick), however slim. This is also clearly stated in the "triangle away" description and forum thread.
Since the knowledge of what exactly increments the counter is surely out there, I'd just like to avoid doing those things in the first place.
Can you confirm/deny my statements above? Like about odin/update.zip and so on?
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Dear,
I know its risky but am using android since its early beging and never encounter a brick for my galaxy s2 i always use odin and triangle away and i dont have any issues believe me if you are having any issue in solving a little problem like this dont go deeper as u'll not feel the happiness of solving it due to your fears .. if i were you and am afraid i wont try .
Wish you the best
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moe.nassef said:
Dear,
I know its risky but am using android since its early beging and never encounter a brick for my galaxy s2 i always use odin and triangle away and i dont have any issues believe me if you are having any issue in solving a little problem like this dont go deeper as u'll not feel the happiness of solving it due to your fears .. if i were you and am afraid i wont try .
Wish you the best
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You are completely missing my point. I'd have to clear the counter after every flash that increased it, as I can't guarantee my phone would be in a state where I can do it the moment I do need the warranty. I know it's quite unlikely that something will go wrong and the operation results in a brick.
But why risk even that, if it can easily be avoided? I just need to know what exactly will and what will not increase the counter. Hence my skating for exactly that information.
Swyped on my Galaxy S2
you know i have rooted my phone more times than i can remember, versions of GB, ICS and now i use F1 Nexus ROM and i have always been able to get rid of the yellow triangle and reset the counter without any problems.
it is a jig solution, so i have 1 of those, then i have a an old bootloader file that is called 'oldbootloader' !!! thing is i dont remember where i got it from. anyway, every time after having rooted the phone, i just flash the oldbootloader in Odin PDA box, turn off the phone, plug in the jig and counter is reset, triangle gone. so far it has never failed.
Its very simple, you should have known this......
Flashing a non Samsung kernel / in secure kernel will do that.
Still there are ways you can flash in secure kernel without counter go up, but you have to be rooted and using mobile Odin.
TheCreat said:
You are completely missing my point. I'd have to clear the counter after every flash that increased it, as I can't guarantee my phone would be in a state where I can do it the moment I do need the warranty. I know it's quite unlikely that something will go wrong and the operation results in a brick.
But why risk even that, if it can easily be avoided? I just need to know what exactly will and what will not increase the counter. Hence my skating for exactly that information.
Swyped on my Galaxy S2
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Any custom rom will increase your counter any root like CF root will increase ur counter if you are using a new non stock kernal it will increase the same .. the idea is if you reset the counter one time and then installed mobile odin app on your phone you want have any increase in the counter your whole life and also you will not lose the root and you can flash what ever you want you will not lose the warranty
And they will not able to find out that you one used a custom ROM i already sent my device to the warranty and they mentioned that i'm a noob and am treating the device in a decent way lol
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If you use your odin while flashing a stock os like xxlph it will increase nothing if you used a stock kernel nothing will happened but if you do so you will lose your root and if you lost your root and u wants to get it back it can increase except if you flashed the root kernel from the device with odin mobile or CWM .. forgot to tell also that if you installed any thing with CWM it will not affect your counter
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Hi, I have downloaded some firmwares to my Samsung galaxy s2. The last firmware I put on was Official I thought but in download mode where is says "Curent Binary" it says custom. How do I get that back to official samsung? Is there a way through kies, like with iPhone where itunes can reinstall the os?
Also does a firmware that is vodafone branded be put on a handset that is on the three network? Would it affect the signal?
Thanks
Get a jig from eBay. If you find the jig doesn't work, flash the 'old' bootloader from here. Yes you can flash Vodafone branded firmware on a phone that uses 3's network. No, it shouldn't affect the signal. These things are dependent on your modem, and most roms don't replace your existing modem.
I flashed using a firmware from this site. http://www.sammobile.com/firmware/?page=3&t=1&o=1&m=GT-I9100&r=-1#modelsa and it returned it to the Samsung Official. Everything is back to standard.
MistahBungle said:
Get a jig from eBay. If you find the jig doesn't work, flash the 'old' bootloader from here. Yes you can flash Vodafone branded firmware on a phone that uses 3's network. No, it shouldn't affect the signal. These things are dependent on your modem, and most roms don't replace your existing modem.
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Is flashing the old bootloader safe on a custom ROM? Even if it's an AOKP ROM? Cheers.
Yep.
However, some roms may not boot with the old bootloader (In saying that, I'm running it with CM9, but I didn't muck around with stock versions of ICS beforehand which might have changed it to a BL which doesn't work with CM9). If in doubt, ask the developer of the custom rom you're using if it works OK with the old bootloader (I presume you want to get rid of the boot triangle ?).
Obviously you run a very small risk of bricking your phone every time you flash anything, and you only flash/mess with bootloaders when you have a specific reason for same.
Having to send your phone to Samsung/your carrier for warranty service is one of those reasons, and if you've gone back to stock & your jig won't work, flashing the old bootloader is a simple no mucking around way of getting it done.
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Is flashing the old bootloader safe on a custom ROM? Even if it's an AOKP ROM? Cheers.
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MistahBungle said:
Yep.
However, some roms may not boot with the old bootloader (In saying that, I'm running it with CM9, but I didn't muck around with stock versions of ICS beforehand which might have changed it to a BL which doesn't work with CM9). If in doubt, ask the developer of the custom rom you're using if it works OK with the old bootloader (I presume you want to get rid of the boot triangle ?).
Obviously you run a very small risk of bricking your phone every time you flash anything, and you only flash/mess with bootloaders when you have a specific reason for same.
Having to send your phone to Samsung/your carrier for warranty service is one of those reasons, and if you've gone back to stock & your jig won't work, flashing the old bootloader is a simple no mucking around way of getting it done.
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I just got my phone back from repair and they upgraded it to the latest version of ICS with the ICS Bootloader. I've flashed Hydrogen-ICS and I've got the yellow triangle, obviously the USB jig won't sort it because of the bootloader. There's no disadvantage to having the triangle other than if I need to send it back under warranty is there? I think I might just leave it and sort it if the time comes.
Ahhhh OK. Gotcha
No, the triangle is only a 'cosmetic' thing. You could probably flash the old bootloader, get rid of the triangle, flash the new bootloader, and be on your merry way. But if it doesn't bother you & you've got Hydrogen running the way you want & everything is hunky dory otherwise, there's no need to do it
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I just got my phone back from repair and they upgraded it to the latest version of ICS with the ICS Bootloader. I've flashed Hydrogen-ICS and I've got the yellow triangle, obviously the USB jig won't sort it because of the bootloader. There's no disadvantage to having the triangle other than if I need to send it back under warranty is there? I think I might just leave it and sort it if the time comes.
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Ahhhh OK. Gotcha
No, the triangle is only a 'cosmetic' thing. You could probably flash the old bootloader, get rid of the triangle, flash the new bootloader, and be on your merry way. But if it doesn't bother you & you've got Hydrogen running the way you want & everything is hunky dory otherwise, there's no need to do it
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Ah right, I think I will just leave it for now as it doesn't really bother me! Thanks!
When i flashed back the triangle was gone and i used the branded rom so it has the three network boot logo again just like the day i pulled it out the box all the same apps and it worked like normal in kies i even had a successful update in kies. Though it took some work didnt reconize the device after a good 30mins of pluging and pulling and restarting. I also found some apps can stop kies working apparently, ones from market not on pc. And i had a custome 2.3.6. I just fancied having back to normal till i get bored again.
man you guys need to learn........... ics bootloader use triangle away, is that simple.
atifsh said:
man you guys need to learn........... ics bootloader use triangle away, is that simple.
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I don't understand what you mean by that? Mine doesn't?
arranstobbs said:
I don't understand what you mean by that? Mine doesn't?
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"Triangle Away" is an app by Chainfire on the Play Store. Costs a couple bucks, but you don't have to flash an old bootloader and/or wait for a USB jig to get to you, which is your other option.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1494114
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1494114
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Forgot about the XDA exclusive that's free. But seeing all the good work Chainfire does, when I finally do go to ICS, I'll buy it on the Play Store to throw him a couple bucks. He deserves it.
You can avoid the counter increase, simply flash your archives via CWM instead of doing it via Odin. It won't update the counter, so the triangle won't appear
Joravis said:
You can avoid the counter increase, simply flash your archives via CWM instead of doing it via Odin. It won't update the counter, so the triangle won't appear
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wow someone need to fix his knowledge for this!
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tutorial kinda................ thats how i run
1: flashed cwm (attached) via odin
2: wiped everything, including system
3: flashed stock ICS via odin
4: rooted via cf-root
5: used triangle away to reset counter and triangle
6: install mobile odin
7: flashed the cwm kernel extracted from the same and flashed using mobile odin [zimage]
8: now i have cwm without counter and triangle.
9: flashed cm9 using cwm
now i can flash whatever rom via cwm, without counter issue.
you want to flash kernel use mobileodin again and you wont update counter.
hope this helps.
EDiT: odin is 99.9% for stock ROM's thus will not raise counter. only when you flash cwm for the first time with odin you get counter + triangle.
hope this helps.
Hi,
today i got a dead pixel on my screen. Really annoying its like a small horizontal line in the centre. Since my phone is still under warranty im guessing i could claim a repair or a new device. However, im on the latest bootloader, with phils custom recovery, paranoid android rom and temaseks kernel.
My flash counter is
Custom binary download: Yes (1 counts)
custom binary: custom
system status: custom
and i have the dreaded red exclamation mark when my phone boots.
is there any way i can reset these so i can send my phone off for repairs?
thanks
There is a app for this,
Triangle Away,
Link:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...SwyLDEsImV1LmNoYWluZmlyZS50cmlhbmdsZWF3YXkiXQ..
Best regards,
DrLuigi.
9tThree said:
Hi,
today i got a dead pixel on my screen. Really annoying its like a small horizontal line in the centre. Since my phone is still under warranty im guessing i could claim a repair or a new device. However, im on the latest bootloader, with phils custom recovery, paranoid android rom and temaseks kernel.
My flash counter is
Custom binary download: Yes (1 counts)
custom binary: custom
system status: custom
and i have the dreaded red exclamation mark when my phone boots.
is there any way i can reset these so i can send my phone off for repairs?
thanks
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Option 1: Reset the flash counter using a USB Jig that you can buy HERE
Option 2: Use this option with an extreme care !
IF you are on Stock Ice Cream Sandwich (4.0+) use Chaifire's Triangle Away to reset the flash counter.
Note#2: on new devices like the SGS3/SGNote2/SGNote10.1, status can only be reset on some firmwares - they must be stock firmwares!
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If you brick your device using this app, a board replacement or JTAG will be able to save you !
9tThree said:
Hi,
today i got a dead pixel on my screen. Really annoying its like a small horizontal line in the centre. Since my phone is still under warranty im guessing i could claim a repair or a new device. However, im on the latest bootloader, with phils custom recovery, paranoid android rom and temaseks kernel.
My flash counter is
Custom binary download: Yes (1 counts)
custom binary: custom
system status: custom
and i have the dreaded red exclamation mark when my phone boots.
is there any way i can reset these so i can send my phone off for repairs?
thanks
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Have a try at the Dead Pixel Detect and Fix app. Not sure if that'll help. I have no clue, but hey. Can't hurt to try?
Valdorous said:
Have a try at the Dead Pixel Detect and Fix app. Not sure if that'll help. I have no clue, but hey. Can't hurt to try?
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I'll try that now thanks! the dead pixel only appears when the phone has a light background, the pixel has a green colour,. if you tilt the phone the color of that pixel changes.
sadekmefti said:
Option 1: Reset the flash counter using a USB Jig that you can buy HERE
Option 2: Use this option with an extreme care !
IF you are on Stock Ice Cream Sandwich (4.0+) use Chaifire's Triangle Away to reset the flash counter.
If you brick your device using this app, a board replacement or JTAG will be able to save you !
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Dr.Luigi said:
There is a app for this,
Triangle Away,
Link:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...SwyLDEsImV1LmNoYWluZmlyZS50cmlhbmdsZWF3YXkiXQ..
Best regards,
DrLuigi.
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Thanks guys but i thought after Samsung installed the newest FW, the bootloader that fixed the SDS bug, i thought triangle away was blocked after that?
sadekmefti said:
Option 1: Reset the flash counter using a USB Jig that you can buy HERE
Option 2: Use this option with an extreme care !
IF you are on Stock Ice Cream Sandwich (4.0+) use Chaifire's Triangle Away to reset the flash counter.
If you brick your device using this app, a board replacement or JTAG will be able to save you !
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Can you only use it when having Ice Cream Sandwich?
I thought it was OK for all stock ROMs including Jellybean?
9tThree said:
Thanks guys but i thought after Samsung installed the newest FW, the bootloader that fixed the SDS bug, i thought triangle away was blocked after that?
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Changelog of Triangle Away
23.02.2013 - v2.75
- Updated SGS3 I9300 kernel with SDS patch
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Dr.Luigi said:
Can you only use it when having Ice Cream Sandwich?
I thought it was OK for all stock ROMs including Jellybean?
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Just researched and from what i have found, since i have JB bootloader once i use the app it will still say have 1 count. :/
Dr.Luigi said:
Can you only use it when having Ice Cream Sandwich?
I thought it was OK for all stock ROMs including Jellybean?
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It's not recommended, I used it on my phone and it was OK but on my cousin's phone, I had a Softbrick.
You can use it but at your own risk
sadekmefti said:
Option 1: Reset the flash counter using a USB Jig that you can buy HERE
Option 2: Use this option with an extreme care !
IF you are on Stock Ice Cream Sandwich (4.0+) use Chaifire's Triangle Away to reset the flash counter.
If you brick your device using this app, a board replacement or JTAG will be able to save you !
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Btw how do you use that Jig, How can you get it back to 0 with it?
Just buy a USB Jig, it's safe and unexpensive (~5$)
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Dr.Luigi said:
Btw how do you use that Jig, How can you get it back to 0 with it?
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Buy one, switch off the phone, plug it, it will go into download mode and it will reset the flash counter
sadekmefti said:
Just buy a USB Jig, it's safe and unexpensive (~5$)
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Buy one, switch off the phone, plug it, it will go into download mode and it will reset the flash counter
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Ok since a Jig is cheap ill purchase one. However before i do i cant find any evidence that it resets the flash counter on the s3?
Edit: Yes from JB and up the USB Jig does not reset the flash counter. I have an idea of what to you. I will order the jib and wait for it to arrive. Once it arrives i will flash my phone back to all stock and use triangle away. If it works then im fine, if my phone gets soft bricked i will try to recover it with the jig. In the mean time i will see if the pixel dies out. Sadly the pixel fix did not work.
9tThree said:
Ok since a Jig is cheap ill purchase one. However before i do i cant find any evidence that it resets the flash counter on the s3?
Edit: Yes from JB and up the USB Jig does not reset the flash counter. I have an idea of what to you. I will order the jib and wait for it to arrive. Once it arrives i will flash my phone back to all stock and use triangle away. If it works then im fine, if my phone gets soft bricked i will try to recover it with the jig. In the mean time i will see if the pixel dies out. Sadly the pixel fix did not work.
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If you get Bricked, you need a board replacement or JTAG unit, USB JIG will not help you so forget it
sadekmefti said:
Just buy a USB Jig, it's safe and unexpensive (~5$)
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Buy one, switch off the phone, plug it, it will go into download mode and it will reset the flash counter
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Wow, All automaticly?
Will it affect what ROM you have etc?
Can you device can bricked because of this?
Btw these two are legit and would do the job right?
http://www.benl.ebay.be/itm/MODULO-...10405755219?pt=Smartphone&hash=item48459ff153
http://www.benl.ebay.be/itm/Samsung...10495700460?pt=Smartphone&hash=item484afc65ec
I am planning to root and kernel my phone, Better have it already just in case of a brick or if i have to set it back
Thanks mate!
Best regards,
DrLuigi.
Dr.Luigi said:
Wow, All automaticly?
Will it affect what ROM you have etc?
Can you device can bricked because of this?
Btw these two are legit and would do the job right?
http://www.benl.ebay.be/itm/MODULO-...10405755219?pt=Smartphone&hash=item48459ff153
http://www.benl.ebay.be/itm/Samsung...10495700460?pt=Smartphone&hash=item484afc65ec
I am planning to root and kernel my phone, Better have it already just in case of a brick or if i have to set it back
Thanks mate!
Best regards,
DrLuigi.
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-Yes, all automaticly.
-No it will not affect your ROM or anything else, just the flash counter.
-No, it won't brick your phone.
-Both of them seems to be good.
sadekmefti said:
-Yes, all automaticly.
-No it will not affect your ROM or anything else, just the flash counter.
-No, it won't brick your phone.
-Both of them seems to be good.
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I meant, if it matters that you have Jellybean or IceCream sandwich, or 4.3 to work.
Or does it work on everything,
I gonna buy it from here: http://www.benl.ebay.be/itm/MORGEN-...0?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_146&hash=item460f627690
Since its quiet close to my country and most cheapest ^^
I could also buy it from Dealextreme, but that takes ages, and you just arent always sure if it would even arrive .
Btw when you resetted your counter, can you then use your Software updater on your phone or?
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I just watched this video, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lekNSQG2I3Q
And it didnt seem to work for him?
Dr.Luigi said:
I meant, if it matters that you have Jellybean or IceCream sandwich, or 4.3 to work.
Or does it work on everything,
I gonna buy it from here: http://www.benl.ebay.be/itm/MORGEN-...0?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_146&hash=item460f627690
Since its quiet close to my country and most cheapest ^^
I could also buy it from Dealextreme, but that takes ages, and you just arent always sure if it would even arrive .
Btw when you resetted your counter, can you then use your Software updater on your phone or?
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I just watched this video, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lekNSQG2I3Q
And it didnt seem to work for him?
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If you have JB it wont work. Basically when samsung updated the bootloader to fix SDS they added the unremovable ! on boot screen. If you have that and your triangle away doesnt work then the USB Jig wont work either. its just a soft brick protection.
sadekmefti said:
If you get Bricked, you need a board replacement or JTAG unit, USB JIG will not help you so forget it
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Yes but with SoftBrick, if u cant get into download mode people have said Jig Works.
So the only way is Triangle away?
Damn, i just ordered a jig from netherlands due that closer
Trying to cancel it now so i can buy it from Dealextreme instead, its slower but alot cheaper
anyhow,
sad news tbh
I wished it would work a plugin usb, and counter is safely gone, to bad..
GUYS! stop the misinformation. don't talk unless you know what you're saying. USB jig does NOT affect the counter on this device AT ALL. All it does is it takes you to download mode. That's it.
I was on a latest bootloader also and i cleaned my counter easily with triangle away mate
The trick is flash a kernel that has support for taway
Reset the counter and imidiatly after the app do is magic
Without turning off the phone
Enter imidiatly to download Mode by pressing the respective key comb
Flash stock via odin
Wipe on stock recovery
Perfect!!
No counter all status official!
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