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This is beginning to get out of control with all of the thread jacking and such with mainver issues. Anyway, read on.
NEW INFO: FLASH THIS: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23169557&postcount=4\
PROBLEM SOLVED!
Old info if you care:
Q. What is MainVer?
A. MainVer is a string that HBOOT keeps track of that keeps the latest version of the RUU or PH98IMG.zip that has been flashed.
Q. Why does HTC have this?
A. In order to prevent downgrading with an RUU.
Q. I haven't run an RUU. How was my MainVer updated?
A. There are 2 reasons your MainVer could have been updated at this point.
The Original ICS Leak
DSB's new BAMF Rom (downloaded 1/17/2012 or later)
The original ICS leak that some of you flashed was still in RUU image form. Unfortunately, this was distributed with an updated MainVer string in the android-info.txt. When this was flashed, the new MainVer string was recorded into your device. DSB for some reason also included this new android-info.txt in his kernel PH98IMG.zip that is packed with his rom. I am not quite sure why he did that.
Q. What does this mean for me?
A. See new text at the top
Q. Why won't devs just add the new mainver to their roms to make my life easier?
A. They could, but then they would be forcing everyone to have this problem, not just you. It would also prevent everyone from using an RUU to repair their phones until a new one came out.
More Info:
No matter if you are going GB->GB or GB->ICS or ICS->GB you will need to have the correct mainver for your device. If you aren't having trouble going from rom to rom right now, you shouldn't even be looking at this guide. But if you got your mainver updated, you need to replace the android-info.txt for every single rom forever (until a new RUU comes out and it is safe to unify everyone's mainver)
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That was quick! Nice work, Con. Hopefully this will help everyone out having these issues. I'll make sure I bookmark this page to link to if anyone should have issues. Thanks!
WasabiWa83 said:
That was quick! Nice work, Con. Hopefully this will help everyone out having these issues. I'll make sure I bookmark this page to link to if anyone should have issues. Thanks!
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Thanks! That is a good idea about the bookmark. Ill do that too.
Yeah I had to answer this question a few times... this Q/A should make it easier.
I want to be sure I understand this correctly. If I flash an ICS rom I need to use the android-info mainver source 3.10.605.7 and if I want to revert back to a stock rom I need to use the android-info mainver source 1.02.605.6?
I have not installed any ICS roms yet, waiting for some more of the bugs to get worked out. I've been reading where many people are having issues with installing ICS roms and struggling with reverting back to stock.
I will try to make that more clear. Hold on.
I make a motion to sticky this thread. Anyone 2nd this motion?
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con247 said:
I will try to make that more clear. Hold on.
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Thanks Con for the quick reply! I like to look over these forums and make sure I'm understanding some of the issues that are currently going on. I've been flashing roms for awhile but still consider myself a noob. Thanks again!
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I make a motion to sticky this thread. Anyone 2nd this motion?
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Yeah, definitely a 2nd for very this useful post. Especially since a lot of the ROM threads are getting off topic because of this. I saw Scott posted a link to this thread in his release posts. Good idea for the Devs to link back here too
Yeah this needs to be stickied...
Con... here is a post I did explaining Mainver... It is a bit more simplified, might be easier to follow for the new guys. (it also explains what RUU files are and what they do)
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RUU files are the official software releases from HTC.
RUU files are signed. (They give proper "official" codes to hboot to get past the s=on security)
This means that they can flash all parts of the device, even the bootloader and radio firmware, which we can not normally flash because it is write locked. (do to s=on we can't flash them even with root)
Sometimes people have issues and need to get the phone back to pure stock so they use the RUU.
Mainver is data on the software version number of the kernel (I believe... it may be for some other part, either way it is version info)
Think V1... V1.2... V1.5... V1.5.5
Because of s=on we are not allowed to "downgrade/revert" to older software versions.
The leaked ICS build has a newer Mainver, some people flashed the leak unmodified, and that changed the Mainver info. Now they need to use a special trick to trick the s=on security to allow flashing of older kernels. The ICS ROMs we have now, have been modified so they do not change the Mainver. This makes it easier to go back to GB or switch to other ROMs.
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I am sorry but I am trying to make sense of all this. I am on Scott's CleanRom 2.1 will I need to use these instructions to go back to my stock room? This is my first HTC, I've only had Motorola phones up till now and I hate to admit it but this is all a bit over my head. I have been studying these forums for the last 2 days and I really have no clue how to use the backup I made of my stock GB Rom or even what kernel to use. I do regret not waiting to mess with this phone. Any help is greatly appriciated and I love all the work you have all put into this phone. Thanks in advance.
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I am sorry but I am trying to make sense of all this. I am on Scott's CleanRom 2.1 will I need to use these instructions to go back to my stock room? This is my first HTC, I've only had Motorola phones up till now and I hate to admit it but this is all a bit over my head. I have been studying these forums for the last 2 days and I really have no clue how to use the backup I made of my stock GB Rom or even what kernel to use. I do regret not waiting to mess with this phone. Any help is greatly appriciated and I love all the work you have all put into this phone. Thanks in advance.
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You're pretty much good because Scott's ROM does not update your MainVer. This is only for those ROMs that updated the MainVer. All you will need to do is restore your nand and flash the stock rooted kernel with Scott's Clean Flash tool. It's really more simple than you would think. You can find the Clean Flash tool and the stock rooted kernel in the dev forum. Just make sure that there is no PH98IMG.img on your ext sd card before you try to revert to your nandroid. Once you have restored your nand, you need to get to HBoot using the clean flash tool to make sure that you flash the stock rooted kernel. If you have the PH98IMG on your ext SD card, you would be kind of boned. Hope this helps a little.
So I flashed BAMF once, but it was weeks ago and I've since been using GingerSense without any issues, and that flashed fine after I tossed his boot.img back on, and then again after I did a full wipe a few nights ago. Is there any way to easily tell which mainver we're currently on? I'm assuming I'm ok since I haven't had to do anything else while flashing his ROM, guess I just wanna make sure.
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So I flashed BAMF once, but it was weeks ago and I've since been using GingerSense without any issues, and that flashed fine after I tossed his boot.img back on, and then again after I did a full wipe a few nights ago. Is there any way to easily tell which mainver we're currently on? I'm assuming I'm ok since I haven't had to do anything else while flashing his ROM, guess I just wanna make sure.
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I believe mainver only changed if you flashed rezound cubed 1.0.2. If you didn't flash that, like I did, you should be fine.
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Well if that's true then yeah I'm ok, I see 1.0.2 is from 1/17 and I know I flashed it well before that, so I guess that explains why I haven't had any issues. Thanks!
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Well if that's true then yeah I'm ok, I see 1.0.2 is from 1/17 and I know I flashed it well before that, so I guess that explains why I haven't had any issues. Thanks!
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Thanks, I added that date to the OP
It worked
Wasabi, I appriciate you giving me the little extra i needed to get back to stock. Thanks for the help.
So, is the MainVer stuck at the higher version number even if you manually flash the older boot.img from the PC?
The boot.img is independent of the mainver. Once you have it set higher, it can never go back. Possibly on an S-OFF device, but that would be pointless.
Oh thrill. So no ICS for us who flashed the dsb kernel? I hope the real HTC ICS is out soon then.....
First off I would like to thank Dropzeroc and Team 420 for an amazing Rom and for improving the experience of everyone using an Evo3D. I wanted to share with everyone else suffering from HBoot 1.5 that if you have been using Chads ICS Firmware fix because of constant bootloops you dont need to downgrade your HBoot to 1.4. I know every time i would flash the firmware fix it would break many bugs that had already been fixed, I had to flash it to avoid getting constant boot-loops. But Juopunutbear's Wire trick to get S-Off was a miracle fix, and after it turns S-Off it asks if you would like to install a custom Juopunutbear Hboot. After this is done you are officially on HBoot 1.5 S-Off! And can flash any ICSense ROMS successfully without having bootloops! I really hope this helps someone enjoy their ROMs that much MORE because i know it feels good TO FINALLY BE FREED FROM THE CURSE OF S-ON! THIS ROM IS THE FUNK!
And now i have everything Working!
-DMD Future MD
ROM: ZR3DX
HBoot: 1.5 (and proud) S-Off
BTW: This solved my boot-looping issues I am in no way representing Juopunutbear or any of his affiliates. I am only sharing with all of you a solution i found, allowing me to leave the bootlooping days behind me. And fully enjoy both The ICS ROMs and Kernels.
It worked for me 1.50 s-off now!
Fortunately for me, I haven't had the bootloops yet on 1.5 S-ON. Currently running MeanROM ICS 1.0. I may end up trying it anyways though, just so I don't have to worry about it.
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Hey
I have another thread I made for the same fix but an easier method.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26386620#post26386620
BTW, I am in no way trying to interfere with the OP.
Yeah but battery life sucks on that kernel!
cburk01 said:
I have another thread I made for the same fix but an easier method.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26386620#post26386620
BTW, I am in no way trying to interfere with the OP.
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Yea I was using that kernel for a while as well but aside from the notciable battery drain, you also have to deal with the incompatibility and so many working features from the ROM get broken in the process. But indeed this was all I could use to boot any ICSense ROM w/o going into boot-loops. But now I can flash Whatever Whenever
-DMD Future MD
ROM: ZR3DX
HBoot: 1.5 (and proud) S-Off
banzaiwolfe said:
Fortunately for me, I haven't had the bootloops yet on 1.5 S-ON. Currently running MeanROM ICS 1.0. I may end up trying it anyways though, just so I don't have to worry about it.
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That's great to hear you haven't had any issues. I'm noticing that HBoot 1.5 is kinda weird like that, with some ppl having issues while others don't. Although I was a little concerned with this "wire method" I can assure you it wasn't hard at all and was a rather smooth process. Longest part was flashing back to ZR3D 3.0 GT to be able to successfully mount and have proper communication between my evo3d and computer, which was a feature that would break once i would flash the firware fix by chad. All in all it was definitely worth it for me because Flash GUI, and Smart Flash, as well and using fastboot to flash kernels was getting REALLY OLD! Now I will never have those issues again!
BTW: I cant assure you will have the same results i did, the process was short and sweet for me. But can be very different for you, just follow the instructions carefully if your up for it, and I dont see how you could go wrong
-DMD Future MD
ROM: ZR3DX
HBoot: 1.5 (and proud) S-Off
Hi all I am currently using a ics Rom with hboot 1.5 s on my goal is to be able to flash these roms with out using chads fix which helped me a lot thanks chad but it looks like the kernel won't be updated to fix breaks. So I have gone thru forums and have seen downgrading to 1.4 s off. My question is this if I downgrade will I loose the flash I have for metro pcs? And is it nessasary to downgrade to accomplish what I would like to achieve having ics without the breaks. Thank you all for the help.
sorry
Hi again sorry didn't say. I have a HTC EVO 3d cdma
Some roms have built in support for metro (like nocturnal ics), so you could downgrade and then flash one of those.
Or you could do a nandroid of your current setup and restore it after the downgrade process.
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Hi all I am currently using a ics Rom with hboot 1.5 s on my goal is to be able to flash these roms with out using chads fix which helped me a lot thanks chad but it looks like the kernel won't be updated to fix breaks. So I have gone thru forums and have seen downgrading to 1.4 s off. My question is this if I downgrade will I loose the flash I have for metro pcs? And is it nessasary to downgrade to accomplish what I would like to achieve having ics without the breaks. Thank you all for the help.
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Before you attempt to downgrade, please write down all MetroPCS radio/PRI/PRL, etc info. Someone asked a similar question somewhere else about Boost. I believe he warned everyone that it will erase and you need all the info to restore his Boost (MOST LIKELY metroPCS) service.
You can also take a screen shot of the settings as well.
#Root-Hack_Mod*Always\
Thanks for the help
Ok Thank you all for your help but let me ask this there's this (wire trick) I hear there's a lot of success and I hear that some fail. If I did choose to use this method would it too remove flashed metro info? And does it have to be h-boot 1.4 s.off to flash the i.c.s roms or can I use 1.5 h-boot s.off? I'm still pretty new to this but starting to get the hang reading what a lot of great people are posting.
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Ok Thank you all for your help but let me ask this there's this (wire trick) I hear there's a lot of success and I hear that some fail. If I did choose to use this method would it too remove flashed metro info? And does it have to be h-boot 1.4 s.off to flash the i.c.s roms or can I use 1.5 h-boot s.off? I'm still pretty new to this but starting to get the hang reading what a lot of great people are posting.
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From my reading, it seems either is ok. I still would suggest 1.4 s-off as that's what I have and it is solid for me. Roms flash with no trouble and I get no bootloops. But the 1.5 s-off method is easier so maybe someone with 1.5 s-off can report their success rate (ease of flashing roms, stability, etc).
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Ok Thank you all for your help but let me ask this there's this (wire trick) I hear there's a lot of success and I hear that some fail. If I did choose to use this method would it too remove flashed metro info? And does it have to be h-boot 1.4 s.off to flash the i.c.s roms or can I use 1.5 h-boot s.off? I'm still pretty new to this but starting to get the hang reading what a lot of great people are posting.
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I think that's actually the thread where someone warned about his Boost info getting wiped, I could be wrong.
After s-off is achieved, hboot is sorta irrelevant. You can always flash a new hboot. I'm on eng hboot 1.04.
I upgraded my hboot from 1.4 to 1.58 and my Evo 3d reverted back to sprint, I had to pay again to flash it back to metropcs.
The same happened when I flashed a jelly bean rom. Tried 3 times different roms with no success. I've spent enough money already to buy a 4G LTE.
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HI i'm kinda a noob on this stuff (but learning) ...anyways
I can't seem to be able to get ics on my evo 3d .. it's a sprint cdma version it's got s - off all I want is a kool rom/kernal with the following
i think the problem is that im using gsm roms/kernals (why can't developers put that in their descriptions)
I'm looking for the following features
(CDMA)
I.C.S.
3d camera
over-clocking
battery saver
full beats audio
and some kool eye candy
i tried many roms and kernels but nothing works.. either the phone freezes at the first htc screen .. or it goes to the first htc screen vibrates and then reboots in a loop (i found a few were gsm such as king cobra)
i tried the fastboot method .. clockwork mod...and 4ext.. nothing works ... am i loading the wrong kernal/roms... mabe someone can point me to what im looking for ?
can anyone help me ?
thank you so much
What hboot are you using?
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Can u give us more details ?
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Yes, it would be better if you gave us more details. Such as, what ROM you are using.
ALso, can you create a step by step run down of your flashing process?
Maybe we can see what you did wrong.
The first post has enough information. Sprint is CDMA, King Cobra is GSM. You need a ROM from the CDMA development forum.
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yea some were gsm i guess
ddropski said:
HI i'm kinda a noob on this stuff (but learning) ...anyways
I can't seem to be able to get ics on my evo 3d .. it's a sprint cdma version it's got s - off all I want is a kool rom/kernal with the following
i think the problem is that im using gsm roms/kernals (why can't developers put that in their descriptions)
I'm looking for the following features
(CDMA)
I.C.S.
3d camera
over-clocking
battery saver
full beats audio
and some kool eye candy
i tried many roms and kernels but nothing works.. either the phone freezes at the first htc screen .. or it goes to the first htc screen vibrates and then reboots in a loop (i found a few were gsm such as king cobra)
i tried the fastboot method .. clockwork mod...and 4ext.. nothing works ... am i loading the wrong kernal/roms... mabe someone can point me to what im looking for ?
can anyone help me ?
thank you so much
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im on hboot 1.5 (but s off via wire trick)
i was loading into recovery ...then install from zip...pointed to zip and then followed the bouncing ball
i did realize after kingcobra was gsm... bummer anyways
where can i find only cdma stuff ? ..also will any kernel work with any rom?
can anyone recomend a rom kernel that has the features i was looking for?
thanks again
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im on hboot 1.5 (but s off via wire trick)
i was loading into recovery ...then install from zip...pointed to zip and then followed the bouncing ball
i did realize after kingcobra was gsm... bummer anyways
where can i find only cdma stuff ? ..also will any kernel work with any rom?
can anyone recomend a rom kernel that has the features i was looking for?
thanks again
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Go to the EVO 3d cdma development. The gsm and cdma sub forums are split. I'd recommend using the kernel that comes with the Rom. And no, you can't use any kernel with any Rom.
Just find a Rom that you like and flash it. Don't worry about kernels as much.
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If you really want to tweak your system and stuff, you can get the Anthrax kernels (search google). Though you have to sign up to their forum. Also, make sure you read which version the kernel is for. No every kernel cannot work for every version.
can i do this?
kiewee3 said:
Go to the EVO 3d cdma development. The gsm and cdma sub forums are split. I'd recommend using the kernel that comes with the Rom. And no, you can't use any kernel with any Rom.
Just find a Rom that you like and flash it. Don't worry about kernels as much.
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I wanted to put this on but if i have a delema .. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1466362
ok its a sprint evo 3d flashed to boost
on that link it says -- 1.2.17.651.5 ROMs need the latest firmware. See freeza's all in one firmware update if you haven't done that already. If you unlocked via the HTC method, you know the drill: you'll have to take the OTA and then re-unlock.--
the thing is most of the features i want are handled by the kernel such as o.c / battery saver / beats / ect... thats the only reason i want to change my kernel
heres the question,,, being i originally did the htc unlockr which made it s-on then did the wire trick and made it s-off will i still need to unlock the phone then relock it ..see here is the problem we found that when we did the wire trick i had to reflash to boost it reset the sprint info (at least that what we think happend) ... and this is not an option right now (the guy that did it for me is at school)
is there a way i can install the freezas firmware..anthrax kernel(which it requires) and the mean rom with out having to reflash boost?
If you are already s-off, then no do not relock. I would really suggest you just start all over. Because if you keep on flashing you could mess it up.
Just take thr ruu for your phone version and start over. You may loose root. But i believe you will still be s-off.
Root again then install recovery, make backups, wipe everything in recovery, then install the rom.
By the way you will have to use joeykrim's flashimageGUI app to flash the kernel before the rom IF you are on1.5 hboot. If you are 1.4 hboot disregard.
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If you are already s-off, then no do not relock. I would really suggest you just start all over. Because if you keep on flashing you could mess it up.
Just take thr ruu for your phone version and start over. You may loose root. But i believe you will still be s-off.
Root again then install recovery, make backups, wipe everything in recovery, then install the rom.
By the way you will have to use joeykrim's flashimageGUI app to flash the kernel before the rom IF you are on1.5 hboot. If you are 1.4 hboot disregard.
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thats the part i think if load the stock ruu it resets it back to sprint ...also i am on 1.5 but i thought that was the point of going s-off so i i dont have to use programs like flash image gui... (although i have tried it)
i a little confused
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thats the part i think if load the stock ruu it resets it back to sprint ...also i am on 1.5 but i thought that was the point of going s-off so i i dont have to use programs like flash image gui... (although i have tried it)
i a little confused
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Like I said, I think ou should start over. Take the 2.17 ruu.exe. I also suggest you downgrade via the "bricking" method and then root using revolutionary.
If you don't want to do that then, root with htc method. And do not install the boost firmware! Install recovery, make backup, use flashimageGUI or 4ext. And install rom.
You have to do this on 1.5
If you downgraded to 1.4 then you can disregard flashimageGUI
I think your problem is that you flashed the boost firmware. You could have kept the original meanrom and nothing would have happened.
Just start over.
Long story short… I have been very busy for the last 6 months and not been keeping up with all the changes for the CDMA EVO 3D. I am not really sure the best way to get from here to there. I am not a noob and don’t really need my hand held or a dummy’s guide (I have been messing with Android since the HTC Hero and rooted lots of phones and pads). There has been just to many new ways to root and leaked roms…etc. It would be nice to skip all the BS and get caught up with what most people are currently doing.
My current config…
H-Boot: 1.40 s-off via Revolutionary Method
Recovery: TWRP v2.1.1
Rom: ViperRom Redline v2.5 RC2
Would it be better to just RUU back to stock Gingerbread then upgrade to ICS and re-root or is better way to get to ICS with root???? I am not trying save anything on my phone. I am a big fan of wiping and super wiping multiple times before loading a new rom. Also is there any benefit to H-Boot 1.5 or higher?
If this has already be asked can you point me to the correct thread.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Long story short… I have been very busy for the last 6 months and not been keeping up with all the changes for the CDMA EVO 3D. I am not really sure the best way to get from here to there. I am not a noob and don’t really need my hand held or a dummy’s guide (I have been messing with Android since the HTC Hero and rooted lots of phones and pads). There has been just to many new ways to root and leaked roms…etc. It would be nice to skip all the BS and get caught up with what most people are currently doing.
My current config…
H-Boot: 1.40 s-off via Revolutionary Method
Recovery: TWRP v2.1.1
Rom: ViperRom Redline v2.5 RC2
Would it be better to just RUU back to stock Gingerbread then upgrade to ICS and re-root or is better way to get to ICS with root???? I am not trying save anything on my phone. I am a big fan of wiping and super wiping multiple times before loading a new rom. Also is there any benefit to H-Boot 1.5 or higher?
If this has already be asked can you point me to the correct thread.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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If I'm reading right, just search the development forums for an ics rom, flash it and you're good to go. NEVER TAKE OTA
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Tl;dr.
Just kidding. I'm running the latest ics rooted Roms on hboot 1.4 revolutionary s-off. I ran freeza's firmware update without the new hboot. This lets me run everything except the new kernel (which most new Roms don't use). If you insist on the new kernel, you can upgrade the hboot too, but you lose the ability to flash aosp and GB Roms.
So, in short, you just need to pick a rooted ics Rom and go. I like zr3dx, Meanrom, homebrew, or common ground.
I also recommend you change to 4ext recovery. It's really nice.
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coal686 said:
Tl;dr.
Just kidding. I'm running the latest ics rooted Roms on hboot 1.4 revolutionary s-off. I ran freeza's firmware update without the new hboot. This lets me run everything except the new kernel (which most new Roms don't use). If you insist on the new kernel, you can upgrade the hboot too, but you lose the ability to flash aosp and GB Roms.
So, in short, you just need to pick a rooted ics Rom and go. I like zr3dx, Meanrom, homebrew, or common ground.
I also recommend you change to 4ext recovery. It's really nice.
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Thanks that was exactly what I needed and I was getting tired of reading all the posts about the VM fiasco, and sticking a wire in the SD card…etc.
You are right it was “Tl;dr” but I also hate threads that go on forever because you don’t have enough info to answer the question.
Thanks again
Shark_HTC said:
Thanks that was exactly what I needed and I was getting tired of reading all the posts about the VM fiasco, and sticking a wire in the SD card…etc.
You are right it was “Tl;dr” but I also hate threads that go on forever because you don’t have enough info to answer the question.
Thanks again
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More information > less information :thumbup:
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after downgrading from ICS to GB, my free ram become low from free 380mb on ICS to 222 on GB