ok i rooted a friends rezound before i got mine as of yesterday and i put new leaked radios and new firmware and chingys ICS build rom but his battery liffe is horrid and he has a extended battery but a older phone he got his when they released
I just got mine and extended battery and i just rooted and S-offed mine and thats it and my battery life is amazing but its stock GB
Anyways with that being said he wants my setup so if i RUU him to my build GB will the RUU cover the firmware also or do i need to go get the old GB firmware ?? and i guess i would have to get the radios also right??
I guess what im asking does RUU's get firmware,rom,radios,recovery,bootloader or only a few??? and how do you tell what firmware version you are on?
RUU is one stop shopping. Everything you need will be in the RUU.
You are going to have to S-Off his phone though if it is not already done since the leaked radios and firmware are newer.
his phone is S-OFF so just getting it super straight
the 2.01.605.11 RUU will give him the rom,firmware,recovery,radios, all
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Yep. Everything you need.
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haha, rule of thumb when your working on another android users phone, know how to get back before doing anything
but yeah, you need s-off and there are some guides after that on how to return
the battery life is only horrid when screen is on if you ask me, otherwise the deep sleep is much more effective than gingerbread
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The main reason I did not flash the leaked firmware is fear of the long process of going back or not really being used to flashing new firmware. Now that we have s-off is the process easier and if so what is it exactly?
EDIT: Also is there anything I'm missing by just flashing the patch for old firmware versus the upgrade itself...
From reading other posts, I don't believe that S-Off makes flashing firmware any easier. It just enables you to actually RUU back to an earlier version, which you could not do before. (Just be careful and follow steps other members have outlined in flashing back, especially if your 4G connectivity drops. Lots of threads on this issue.) That being said, I have not done S-Off myself (I haven't felt the risk was worth the reward yet), so I'm happy to be corrected if I'm wrong.
Unless you have some burning need to flash a new firmware, I would suggest against it. Some users have reported better signal and battery life, while many others have reported terrible battery life and overheating. I'm on the GB OTA firmware, and flashed CleanROM 4.2.2 with the old firmware patch. Based on other users' posts, ICS runs as well on my Rezound as those with updated firmware.
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From reading other posts, I don't believe that S-Off makes flashing firmware any easier. It just enables you to actually RUU back to an earlier version, which you could not do before. (Just be careful and follow steps other members have outlined in flashing back, especially if your 4G connectivity drops. Lots of threads on this issue.) That being said, I have not done S-Off myself (I haven't felt the risk was worth the reward yet), so I'm happy to be corrected if I'm wrong.
Unless you have some burning need to flash a new firmware, I would suggest against it. Some users have reported better signal and battery life, while many others have reported terrible battery life and overheating. I'm on the GB OTA firmware, and flashed CleanROM 4.2.2 with the old firmware patch. Based on other users' posts, ICS runs as well on my Rezound as those with updated firmware.
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Cool. That is exactly what I wanted to know thanks. Sounds like I'll be using the patch as well.
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Cool. That is exactly what I wanted to know thanks. Sounds like I'll be using the patch as well.
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The 4G issue has been resolved all thanks to a factory reset after you RUU. So the process of downgrading and upgrading RUU is very simple now. The only difference really is you will have newer radios.
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i ran the leaked ICS OTA on the old firmware for about two weeks. Then i tried out Joelz Evita ROM and had to flash the Sense4 firmware. I tried it for a few days but still too many bugs with it, so i restored the ICS leak, then rebooted into hboot and ran the new firmware. I think my signal, download speed and battery all are better now. I'm loving the leak. If the leak is this good, I cant wait for the final.
Right now im running a sense 4 rom, with an unlocked bootloader. I need to go back to stock sense 3.5 for someone because im selling the phone. My phone is also S-On. I relocked and tried flashing the latest gingerbread RUU but got Error [140] BootLoader version problem. Any ideas guys?
If you ran a Ics ruu leak the Best you can do is run a gb Rom. If you s off you can run the gingerbread ruu. This is why so many people wanted s off...now they can flash leaked ruu and radios upgrading or downgrading easily.
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Ok so im guessing im on the latest ICS leak, I can run a GB Rom with no problems?
If you ran an ics ruu, you will need a sd card fix since the.mount points of the sd card have changed from gingerbread to ICS
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Alright, ill find one.
Edit - If I want to go back to 100% stock I gain s-off, then what, flash an old ruu? Anyone wanna give me some simple instructions?
There's.a guide to s off in the general section.
Also I found the Sd card fix if you decide to not s off
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=952658&d=1332056950
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I think I might just go s-off and flash an RUU from the Vigor Shipped Collection, would I still be able to be on the OTA path after flashing all that fun stuff?
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I think I might just go s-off and flash an RUU from the Vigor Shipped Collection, would I still be able to be on the OTA path after flashing all that fun stuff?
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Yes, if you S-off and then flash the latest OTA from the Vigor collection you would be able to get the OTA if you wish.
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Edit - If I want to go back to 100% stock I gain s-off, then what, flash an old ruu? Anyone wanna give me some simple instructions?
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if you've got s-off, run 1.02.605.6 ruu and go back to completely stock non rooted.
Then go here http://forum.xda-developers.com//showthread.php?t=1612937
and do this.
I found out s-off requires some mcgyver ****, Not into that, so I guess ill have to keep it on the ICS leak
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I found out s-off requires some mcgyver ****, Not into that, so I guess ill have to keep it on the ICS leak
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No way to go back without s-off. It really is pretty easy and safe..two people out of probably more than a few hundred successes.
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I found out s-off requires some mcgyver ****, Not into that, so I guess ill have to keep it on the ICS leak
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Or run clean Rom 1.7.5 its basically stock gingerbread. Better than having ice cream sandwich....that looks way more noticeable
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Hey the wire trick isn't bad just make sure you aren't touching the exposed wire. and the end that goes in the hole make sure it's touching the contact. Then touch the other indicated point for a moment then take it of count one-thousand two-tho then touch it again then. The whole time you keep the other end in the hole on the contact. If you mess up it will just keep telling you to try again. Only bad thing is if you touch the ends of the wire, make sure it's insulated.
I hope this is not covered someplace and i am just missing it. I have searched the forums and no one has yet answered this to my understanding. There are many posts regarding the process, but not much info on the benefits, so here goes:
Ok so I am rooted and running CleanROM 4.5 Standard. I am S-On with an unlocked bootloader. So here are my questions:
1. Given I am using the GB Patch method, is there any reason to re-lock, and flash the RUU to the latest leak version? (that is possible right?)
2. Is there any benefit to not using the GB patch method in terms of battery life, stability, radio reception etc?
3. Should I just S-Off anyway so whatever happens with the new OTA and going forward I can have all my options open?
I am happy with CleanROM 4.5 so far, but I am concerned about the future and whether running the Gingerbread firmware will work long term. Will i lose any future ICS functionality by not upgrading the firmware and using the patch method? Is there a down side to the patch method other than having to run the patch when flashing ROMS?
Everyone seems to feel differently about ICS.
Personally, the new radios in the 3.14 leak ruu simply out preform the gb radios.
I'm also getting much better battery life running on ICS firmware.
If you're already unlocked, instead of relocking, s-off your phone. Than flash the RUU, which will wipe out your recovery and give you ICS with s3.6. At that point you can either stay on the stock leak, or flash a recovery (amon ra 3.15) and flash custom roms.
I would s off...each day the ota comes closer and closer....it's doubtful it could close the s off method, but why take the chance... That's my logic anyways. Like I said its doubtful...but hey, ya never know.
Updating to ics ruu will give different radios, and if you stay on ics Rom you won't need old firmware patch.
S off makes flashing roms wayyyy easier...boot IMG install on most automatically. And you can upgrade or downgrade to whatever ruu works best for you.
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You can also just update the firmware. Superchillpill has a thread on it in the dev section.
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If you S-OFF you can upgrade then downgrade if you don't like it. Honestly it is worth the try if you have time to do the procedures.
My phone has never run better than on the newest leak and Newts xxx rls1
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Just curious, if I'm s-off and can/have flashed new radio and kernel is there still any reason to install the latest and greatest ruu? Are there any other benefits? Maybe I'm missing something but the latest roms from our awesome devs are being rebased on the latest leaks...I just don't see why flashing a ruu is needed. If I'm wrong or missing something please let me know. Thanks in advance.
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Nah its has the same fw as last one just few bug fixed in software level
I'm not saying specifically the last one, I mean in general as new ruus come out. If vzw doesn't eol us that is. Thanks though.
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in term of battery life i would stick to gb fw
but u can ics with patch and still got nice battery life
I've been rooted day one and s-off from the first day it was available and running cleanrom ics. GB sucked with sense for the half a day I used it. This was just an overall general question of "what's the point" and i'm sure others had similar thoughts. I'd hate for anyone to run a ruu for no reason just to have to re-setup their "got it the way I want it" rom of choice.
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If you're flashing the radio and perhaps hboot updates every time, probably not. I guess the good thing about the RUU is that you flash everything together in a package that is known with some certainty by the manufacturer to all play nice. You can always nandroid your custom ROM back on afterwards.
That said...I independently flashed hboot once or twice, and radio several times, on my old Incredible without incident. I've only done the RUU, and only one time, on the Rez.
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If you're flashing the radio and perhaps hboot updates every time, probably not. I guess the good thing about the RUU is that you flash everything together in a package that is known with some certainty by the manufacturer to all play nice. You can always nandroid your custom ROM back on afterwards.
That said...I independently flashed hboot once or twice, and radio several times, on my old Incredible without incident. I've only done the RUU, and only one time, on the Rez.
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Yeah I've update the hboot with latest jb and flashed the latest radio and kernel, no issues thus far and all is well...so I conclude ruus are a waste unless that's what you want to roll with is stock
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I'm just wondering if this will be the best method and save me from having to fastboot flash kernels to use newest roms based on 2.13 I'm currently hboot1.15 with 1.22 firmware.
Thanks in advance. Ps not a noob so not afraid to "go deep" with my phone
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Some people are holding out for a possible s-off, this will allow for firmware updates and the like while maintaining full write access to NAND. If this isn't a concern you can go ahead and update. The newest base doesn't really add much that isn't already in custom roms, it does cause some instability with a few roms that haven't updated their base. HBOOT 1.15+ requires you to fastboot kernel regardless. Some people have reported worse performance after OTA
Ok cool. So no big benifit of updating? I'm thinking of running latest Mean but honestly never fastboot flashed kernels b4. This is the first device I've got locked into a wack hboot that doesn't allow s-off.
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You should read my guide, it has a lot of really helpful info. It will help answer a lot of questions and get you going faster. But in response to your question, you can run any rom/kernel provided its the same base. You can not however, flash firmware updates to your device without taking OTA
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You should read my guide, it has a lot of really helpful info. It will help answer a lot of questions and get you going faster. But in response to your question, you can run any rom/kernel provided its the same base. You can not however, flash firmware updates to your device without taking OTA
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Great guide, reading now thx
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Thankyou, I've been pushing it harder then a politician with an agenda
I would highly recommend spending 0.99 to purchase Flash Image Gui. It makes it really easy for S-On to flash the kernel form the ROM zip, and then reboot to recovery and flash the full ROM. And no PC required to use the fastboot/ADB method.
You should take the update, those that don't will have problems, the new OTA includes a major upgrade to the radios. Those that have not taken the update and just use the new kernel with the new base software are having all kinds of problems with wifi, bluetooth, and holding their lte connections. All of these items were fixed in the new radio.
Now, the s-off argument, it is a fantasy! If you didn't s-off with the original bootloader 1.12 than you might as well upgrade to the full firmware of the new ota. You maybe waiting so long for a 1.15 s-off solution that your phone will have already been replaced with the next great phone that is released. Why handicap your phone with old firmware and radios when if you take the update now, you can still unlock your bootloader, flash twrp, and enjoy any of the custom rooted roms that are rocking the new base. Sense 4.1 and ICS 4.04 are worth the upgrade.
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You should take the update, those that don't will have problems, the new OTA includes a major upgrade to the radios. Those that have not taken the update and just use the new kernel with the new base software are having all kinds of problems with wifi, bluetooth, and holding their lte connections. All of these items were fixed in the new radio.
Now, the s-off argument, it is a fantasy! If you didn't s-off with the original bootloader 1.12 than you might as well upgrade to the full firmware of the new ota. You maybe waiting so long for a 1.15 s-off solution that your phone will have already been replaced with the next great phone that is released. Why handicap your phone with old firmware and radios when if you take the update now, you can still unlock your bootloader, flash twrp, and enjoy any of the custom rooted roms that are rocking the new base. Sense 4.1 and ICS 4.04 are worth the upgrade.
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You may or may not be right about the 1.15 s-off being a pipe dream, but I for one am having ZERO issues with the old firmware and the newest MeanROM. Wifi works fine, bluetooth works fine. No LTE here yet, so I don't know if that will be an issue. Until I see a problem that requires new firmware or a new radio, I'm sitting tight and keeping my fingers crossed.
Hey it may be a dream and a solution may not be found until the next latest and greatest but on custom firmware I can keep my fairly beastly phone running just as good if not better then a stock latest and greatest 2 years from now. I have no problems with 1.15 and there's no lte here yet. My WiFi works wonderfully and kushdeck is killing it with CM10. I'd just as soon wait
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You should take the update, those that don't will have problems, the new OTA includes a major upgrade to the radios. Those that have not taken the update and just use the new kernel with the new base software are having all kinds of problems with wifi, bluetooth, and holding their lte connections. All of these items were fixed in the new radio.
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I can say from my personal experience that this comment is absolutely false. I am sure that the new radios in the latest firmware are an improvement. However, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. I am HBOOT 1.15, S-On, running MeanROM 3.9 with latest kernel flashed via Flash Image Gui. I live and work in a well covered LTE area. I am having none of the problems that you mention. LTE speeds of ~25Mb down, 18 Mb up. Wifi is working great at home, work, or the coffee shop. Bluetooth sounds just a clear as it always has.
So, it is very functional as-is. I am sure there may be improvements in the latest firmware, but to say you absolutely will have problems is just a lie. My LTEvo is running smooth like butter and fast as a rocket.
Not to mention the fact that some ROMs are on the old base and have issues with the new base, there was quite a few threads here and in other forums about people wanting to jump back to an older base
Well, if you want to keep running old firmware, that's your option. Thankfully I am s-off and rocking MeanRom 3.9 with the latest firmware and very happy. The op asked a question and got a lot of one sided answers from the "wait for s-off crowd" and I wanted to chime in. I have seen a lot of posts in the MeanRom thread and others that they have wifi and bluetooth problems and the common denominator is running the old firmware with the new kernel and base. Also seen hundreds of posts by people in LTE fringe areas unable to hold their LTE without it constantly switching back to 3g which is one of the fixes with the new radios. And to the old base custom roms not working well with the new firmware that is false, the new radios work fine with those old out of date custom roms. Step into the future and enjoy a fast trouble free phone.
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All true but I have seen plenty of people brick trying to jump back to earlier firmware
Thanks for all the comments. Currently I am rooted using HTC dev method. I have newest twrp recovery by using goo manager to overwrite the old twrp version that I had after using an older manual method to root.
I am running MeanRom 3.9 now. Found flash IMG app on play store pretty quick and its easy to use. Basically my phone is almost back to fully customized. I asked the question right when I got my replacement yesterday. Although I would like the benifits of the update, I'm kinda with the if it ain't broke don't fix it crowd. I'm not a fan of using adb to root but it def wasn't difficult at all. I'm just worried now that at this point to go back, ruu, update and such could be more harm then good at this point. Am I right?
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There's really not much harm, the biggest problem updating had been ROM compatibility and most developers are on the new base or are currently in the middle moving over. Those of us sticking with 1.15 are hopelessly awaiting an soff exploit that nay or may not come
Glad to see you're on MeanRom. Mikey is a great dev and fast with the updates. Since he is currently updating all of his tweaks to the new base, expect an update almost every day. The great thing about MeanRom is you don't have to wipe data between installs. And since you're already on the new kernel, when you update you won't have to flash it again, just the rom. Mikey now uses the ota updater app so you can use it to download the new rom each time and perform the install.
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