Hi All ,,
A. Why HTC sense ?!
1- It's a thought and developers may give it a chance
2- I'm talking about a fully functional launcher with all the widgets very well implemented and displayed.
2.1- Enjoy watching this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sfRaWBgWao
2.2- Enjoy these pictures !!!
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B. Why SGS III ?!
1- It's has a quad core processor along with the same system partions like HTC devies.
2- We have the kernel code resources released which might help.
3- It will be the most incredibly fascinating combination of the best software inside the best hardware ever ?!
Do we have anybody trying to HTC sense 4.0 to non HTC devices specifically Samasung ones ?! The answer is Yes see below ;
http://www.sense4all.nazuka.net/?cat=8
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1657050
C. What we need from end users / thread quick repliers ?!
1- If you support this idea by any means you are welcome to post your comments .
2- If you don't support this idea and have no positive comment's kindly please don't flood this thread with discouraging words.
3- If you are a developer ( Unlike me ) who knows what are the obstacles and difficulties that may arise in doing this project which make commencing it is a futile idea please and please write in details what can't be done by you, who knows, may be somebody can help to solve it.
Thanx and PEACE
I really love this TouchWiz. It's pretty snappy and feels very premium to look at. I only hoped it had some transition effects. Haven't tried Sense though.
I would really love to have htc sense on the sprint samsung galaxy s2.
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m33ts4k0z said:
I really love this TouchWiz. It's pretty snappy and feels very premium to look at. I only hoped it had some transition effects. Haven't tried Sense though.
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Yeah,,, Samsung had improved TouchWiz a little bit but IMHO the powerful hardware and the weather widget made the huge difference but essentially still you can say it's just a normal launcher nothing of a big interest in TouchWiz.
Now just have a look on HTC sense especially version 4 and you'll probably get to know what real launcher development looks like !!!!
ameedi600 said:
I would really love to have htc sense on the sprint samsung galaxy s2.
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You touch a deep bleeding wound inside me
No one on SGS II forums is actually willing to start porting HTC sense or even think about ( Except Swamp Goblin who has not shown any interest lately may be he is busy or I don't really know ).
Hopefully somebody their will take the challenge and try to do it
Will it seems we need to wait for Teamhacksung to release CM9 for S III for devs to start porting
peace
there is a chance of this but it will be hard cos sense is kinda in a affair with the cpu if you can break it up then maybe btw i also saw that a dev said is was impossible we will try(im not a dev but i have a few mates on rootwikiz
GREAT
paintball23456 said:
there is a chance of this but it will be hard cos sense is kinda in a affair with the cpu if you can break it up then maybe btw i also saw that a dev said is was impossible we will try(im not a dev but i have a few mates on rootwikiz
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Thanks brother
If you have willing developers why not to recruit them to achieve this great project. Believe me it is at least doable ,, Sense for all team got it working on Nexus S devices although it is a single core processor and the resolution is much much lower. Now Qube2 is willing to help but he is waiting for CM9 which will be the best rom base to strt with. Kernel developers also needed and hopefully they will be got attracted to such a project.
Peace
Sense always has and always will be this ugly bloated stain on Android
I really don't get what people see in it, it's just UGLY, and it's slow and buggy, even the videos praising it you can see it slowing down the OneX or being unresponsive from time to time. Seriously HTC should have called it quits on Sense years ago
z0phi3l said:
Sense always has and always will be this ugly bloated stain on Android
I really don't get what people see in it, it's just UGLY, and it's slow and buggy, even the videos praising it you can see it slowing down the OneX or being unresponsive from time to time. Seriously HTC should have called it quits on Sense years ago
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Firstly and at last it's a user preference, I've tried it on HTC one X it it's buttery smooth especially when developers boosted it's performance kernel wise as well as launcher wise. Check the HTC one X forum and see how tremendously they have optimized it .
Apart of from that HTC from porting is really a challenge that developers may get excited to take and experience.
IMHO, HTC SENSE UI is the best ever called UI with all the beautiful Widgets and social apps implementations.
Hopefully starting working on this will be soon.
Peace
Oweida you already know as soon as cm9 is out i wil start working so please Teamhacksung do your wonderfull job
QuBe2 said:
Oweida you already know as soon as cm9 is out i wil start working so please Teamhacksung do your wonderfull job
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Well
I'm trying to make this thread a live .
Have no doubt that you will achieve a huge effort on HTC from porting
Peace
I was just thinking. If you want Sense then why not just buy the One X?
It's not like it's a terrible phone or something.
I had it for a month, but come on both hardwares are almost incomparable especiall the screen type. Now just check the performance and you will see S 3 is far a head.
It will come.
I just can't wait till CM9 that way we get Sense 4.0 on this beast.
Touchwiz is the biggest abomination inflicted on vanilla android, its awful looking, unintuitive, and simply does alot of things worse than stock ICS on my old Galaxy Nexus did.
At least HTC have tried to go the right way, and limit customisations to areas that can do with improvement, and not include anything thats alot worse than stock. The TW4 launcher is fugly, the folders implementation is Samsung giving ICS **** folders we haven't seen since Froyo on stock.
Reviewers said:
It will come.
I just can't wait till CM9 that way we get Sense 4.0 on this beast.
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Hi bro, if you have any expertise in building or kernel development , maybe you can join the sense 4 all team and help them . We can start at least alphas by you
Inquitus said:
Touchwiz is the biggest abomination inflicted on vanilla android, its awful looking, unintuitive, and simply does alot of things worse than stock ICS on my old Galaxy Nexus did.
At least HTC have tried to go the right way, and limit customisations to areas that can do with improvement, and not include anything thats alot worse than stock. The TW4 launcher is fugly, the folders implementation is Samsung giving ICS **** folders we haven't seen since Froyo on stock.
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Wise comment thanks.
It's absolutely time to port Sense over. I'm not purchasing another HTC, SGS III has the edge. Perhaps porting Sense 4.0 over before the Official US launch could spark interest and more development.
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I'm not a fanboy, would love to experience sense 4.0 on my GS3
OP, you started threads about this for for the SGS2 without success.
Because of this, I see no reason at all why you don't just buy a HTC device.
If you're so desperate for Sense, just do it.
The SGS2 never got Sense and that's a year old - why do you think the SGS3 - one week old - will get it ported??
If sense is slow on one x, imagine it on a device not optimized ..why do people tend to make **** ****tier than it is?
I agree with the post above..you bought sgs 3 because you thought maybe it had sense? Why do you keep buying phones with touchwiz?
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how many firmwares, can xda devs firms ware, when the firm they wear, cares not for warez?
ok - delete this... o.. maybe not...
44.44% would rather have one single GingerBread ROM over anything else, excellent!
Keep the vote's rolling, let's find out what people really want!
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delete this
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What was that? It makes me even more excited since it's deleted
hehe, to bad you deleted the first post, it was very well said
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how many firmwares, can xda devs firms ware, when the firm they wear, cares not for warez?
ok - delete this...
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What?-....-........
Delete lame 'roms' - firmware stools
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What was that? It makes me even more excited since it's deleted
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Well half these firmwares could be deleted here and nobody would notice. There is some kind of trend to spit out firmwares, confuse people calling them ROM's and act like it's in the name of progress?
Where I sit, all this cloning is not flattering, it's more akin to theft and I'm sick of seeing all these useless crap ware - camera doesn't work - because you copied J? Z? - Oh where did you get that Cyanogen Mod from.. etc.. ha
Took a bit from here and bit from there... rebadged, rebranded, lifted, ripped - whatever.. it's funny for 5 minutes but it's just happening more and more and becoming - BORING!
Mirthel said:
hehe, to bad you deleted the first post, it was very well said
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...or not...
he`s half right about what he wrote.
obviously the ones and only that made a "almost fully" rom for ours x10, was/is Z, J and T.
but one interesting thing is. a few months ago, when i see this so called 2.1 roms never read anything about it. and they were called "rom".
i give that opinion on those times...nobody give a **** about that...
but if we go further, they don`t do any roms aswell. they pick some here, some there, mix all together and...hey, it worked...great.
the ONLY way we can have a TRUE custom rom is when we crack the f..k`in BL, untill now...
my understanding is:
this so called roms are...mod roms.
but thats just me
I think the Z J and trip are really developer.THX them
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Well half these firmwares could be deleted here and nobody would notice. There is some kind of trend to spit out firmwares, confuse people calling them ROM's and act like it's in the name of progress?
Where I sit, all this cloning is not flattering, it's more akin to theft and I'm sick of seeing all these useless crap ware - camera doesn't work - because you copied J? Z? - Oh where did you get that Cyanogen Mod from.. etc.. ha
Took a bit from here and bit from there... rebadged, rebranded, lifted, ripped - whatever.. it's funny for 5 minutes but it's just happening more and more and becoming - BORING!
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Well I can understand your point of view, even if I don't share it. Giving the people possibilities to choose from isn't the worst thing. And by modding one "ROM" in many ways, a lot of heads think about solutions for bugs and problems. In that way it actually is in the name of progress
Regarding the word ROM: I think most xda users are used to have ROMs for their phones and since the different firmwares we have for the X10 behave like a ROM in most aspects, it would be more confusing to call them firmwares, even if it is more correct...
Too funny
Honestly, I really kicked a hornets nest here - haha - Wow!
It's not really about names, firmwares and roms, apples and oranges etc.. I'm just really perplexed by the sheer volume of unfinished projects some blatantly ripped without any credit to the authors and more than anything, the sheer uselessness of the majority.
It's great that people want to contribute something, so how about downloading the favorable 'rom' (if it makes you feel cool.. or whatever) and make your contribution and then ONE BETTER, instead of uploading the whole schamozzle of mish mash..
Just the mods' that matter? I.E; Changed the Framework-Res.apk and a few apps, then do what Sempeternal does and release an update.zip! - Include screen shots.. but the whole firmware for a theme.. seem's overkill..
Put this in context, not naming names here but I downloaded a GingerBread a while back and it had one single app.. aside from that it was a virgin clone of another guy's rom - with no credit or even value... and it's nearly every day I'm seeing someone pop up with another CM or something and it's actually.. distracting.
Personally I'm 150% behind the work of Z, J and Sempiternal (my favorite theme is the new HC) which looks awesome on any GB modified firmware, even on Eclair and Froyo.
That is what I'm talking about! - Semp really knows what time it is and releases amazing work, free of charge. Best of all across any flavour, without any nonsense! All killer - no filler
Ginger!
i would say gingerbread and a cyanogen brew (which J would start to cook up soon^^)
i mean, who doesn't want the latest version of the most powerful android rom?
Since this is a thread opened for discussion, allow me to do exactly that. The below is strictly my own opinion and not a rant and/or an attack aimed at anyone.
I'm extremely disappointed at the way things are moving in the X10 Dev section. There are dozens of unnecessary half cooked 'ROMs' that're of no practical use. The blind self-righteous and immature dev worshipping present in the thread is shockingly mind numbing. Ask questions, even valid ones, and you're swarmed by these retarded sheep who respond back with insults and personal digs. One user even told me to go buy another X10 when I supported another user who posted a question for the Dev. about the the newer basebands, especially since the Dev himself mentioned that the newer baseband support may [or may not] come. Regardless, the question was for the Dev. and not the sheep.
Just when I feel consoled read something that hints at *some* progress being made with the current firmware, I find myself reading another post, after a while, which takes on a completely different direction. The firmware suddenly gets dropped in favor of a newer/<some popular ROM> which, then, necessitates the Dev. to re-engage himself with the long list of functions and features that aren't working. In essence it means, we're back to ground zero. Why is that necessary? It's a fact that we aren't going to see a 100% functional port because of the locked bootloader - so wouldn't it make more sense to concentrate on just 1 firmware and make it as perfect as possible, with the omission of things that wouldn't be working due to the locked down bootloader?
I sincerely think we need just *2* FIRMWARE threads in the Dev. area - one for 2.3.x and one for 2.2.x. The CM additions can be easily had by installing the CM Settings app, the themes etc. on top of whichever edition one chooses. There's no need to have a complete 'ROM' uploaded with the same critical and few non critical issues.
I should reiterate, the above is simply my own opinion and is in no way a rant or an attack on anyone.
Yes too many rom. Devs should work together to make a perfect room than every dev make their own rom better.
There are developers... and chefs... devs develop the software. Cooks or chefs take ingredients or parts of software and mix or cook them. If you have been a long member of xda you would know that this has always been how it is for EVERY phone that is on this site... but more so this thread propably should be moved to a different section.
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It's never wrong to share. If you don't like it, just don't download. It's that simple.
And from what I see, credits are given where it's due. Many don't even ask for donation. And they don't pretend to be a dev like J, Z & T.
Yes these are mods & tweaks. But some really did a nice job - like wolfbreak's rom - it's fast and stable with a great look.
It's always good to have choices. IMO their threads are much more useful than this thread which contributes nothing.
Of course you don't have to agree with me and I don't have to agree with you
People on here seem to have the mistaken impression that if devs came together we would have a perfect rom instead of several roms that have bugs... That is not the case. We would just have less choice, the bugs would still remain, things like the camcorder and camera issues don't just get fixed overnight. It's nice to see peoples own twist on things, sad to see some people don't appreciate this..
cobrato said:
It's never wrong to share. If you don't like it, just don't download. It's that simple.
And from what I see, credits are given where it's due. Many don't even ask for donation. And they don't pretend to be a dev like J, Z & T.
Yes these are mods & tweaks. But some really did a nice job - like wolfbreak's rom - it's fast and stable with a great look.
It's always good to have choices. IMO their threads are much more useful than this thread which contributes nothing.
Of course you don't have to agree with me and I don't have to agree with you
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Agreed with u...
+1
I personally would like the developers and the site to do the following.
1. Sticky the First Rom post from each guy, and only allow him to update it and a second post.
2. All comments, questions regarding it should be in a separate thread of the same title appended with [Discussion], which should be culled (or have a strike through put the heading) from the system the moment the dev releases a new version.
I for one, can not go through hundreds or thousands of posts most of which are not relevant any longer to the current version of the firmware/baseband whatever update. IT's very intimidating, and onerous on the reader- even professional IT people. I can't imagine what someone from a non-technical bent sent here by someone - "Hey you can get an update for that at XDA!" thinks when they encounter some of these 2,000+ plus postings.
The developers should take a bit of responsibility and update the first or second posts with any new issues that crop up from the discussions. You should not have to read 50 posts in to a thread to find out that there is a step missing in the install or a new bug has been confirmed. I've burned two X10's myself due to bugs and unclear instructions that were later corrected.
Meanwhile, I'm happy to support with money these guys, even though I have not actually put a 'custom' firmware onto any of my phones. I have put/used the tools that have been provided to do other things like JIT and rooting/updating SE firmware. I am looking forward to seeing a fully functional update to give me some of the things that are not available in 2.1 so I can get better applications. I think that not having some items like Hotspot, Tether and even 16m color on the display which require kernel updates are not that important since tether/hotspot can be added via applications in the market.
I don't think there can be a better example of why we don't need random people come up with ROMs [they're firmwares, NOT ROMs]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11669817&postcount=97
In that thread, the main issue is not about giving or not giving credits, it's about calling oneself a 'Chef' and delivering half baked results which ultimately causes grief when users don't receive solutions to their legitimate queries/firmware related problems.
Good Evening All
I know this might be discussed before in few threads but the reason I'm posting this thread is to have the answers from the developers themselves about the difficulties they're facing to port Sense UI ( 4.0 for example ) to our beloved SGS 2 and why their is no attempt to do it.
Updates 24-05-2012
Developers are going crazy
check these websites:-
http://www.sense4all.nazuka.net/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1678663
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1533931
I believe we have a great code reverse engineers as well as great kernel developers and plenty of resources out there ,,, what we are waiting for ?!!
Please devs kindly give it a try and help us,,,,
Updates 16-05-2012 by Quebe2 and Coenjte44 big thanks to them
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1657050
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Swamp goblin a great developer is working in the shadows to create an amazing HTC sense based SGS II ROM !!!!
Now in Nexus S development thread, two developers namely Qube2 and swamp goblin are working so hard to port Sense 4.0 !!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1502895
Qube2 did successfully port Sense 2.1 to Nexus S !!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1490709
Mkalter from SGS 1 thread is trying his best to port to SGS !!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1593939
I believe that our SGS II is the most device world wildly used. Also it has better hardware and better developer community.
What I need is the developers' comments, not only the ones who are interested on Sense UI but also the ones who are not but they have their theories in which they explain why porting Sense UI is difficult, non achievable or waste of time.
Thanx
Sorry for the bad grammer. English isn't really my native language.
P.S. For users like me, respectfully don't flood this thread with posts that won't answer my question in details ( like; if you want sense UI buy HTC device !! ). I need the developers to kindly gather here and post their opinions, experiences and may be their pre-alphas
My Question was moved to Q/A subforum ,, I did post it in general subforum intentionally because of it is really hot area and it may attract developers. I hope it won't be got lost here. Thanx Crachel
To be honest, most developers don't browse around here (as they are busy with their own thing)... but testing Sense UI myself on several phones.. it's laggy and a resource hog. Sure it looks nice, but it's not better than a few others (especially since ICS)- and most often people want things to be more speedy.
Perhaps a hardcore developer will come and give you more details on what they like or don't like about it. Good luck.
PS
Apex launcher fast and smooth
Most of the users here want stock as possible. I dont know why. I study now android development and yes i want Sense UI to at my Phone because i used HTC HD2 with RafDroids HD revolution it had sense. So give a lil bit at any day at any time there will be a sense SGS 2... But Stock ICS with GO Launcher rocks too :-D
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Because it's crap & unnecessary, as Cyberboob more politely intimated than I did.
I think it's down to purely pragmatic reasons.
Say a dev owns a HTC device. What's more practical for him/her (never know, female devs could exist..)? Modify Sense on a phone he/she owns, or decide that TouchWiz is great and spend hours trying to port that instead?
Ergo the same holds true for devs whom own the SGS2.
As cyberboob said, you're unlikely to see any devs on this subforum, and in my opinion they don't need to explain or justify any decision they make anyway - their work, their choice. It's not a democracy here, and that's the way it should be.
And MistahBungle is right too, he just forgot "overponcey bloatware"...
And much more importantly, I'd like to take this opportunity to congratulate myself on my 1000th post.
I know that sense is just like any other UI out there but I think weather, twitter and Facebook implementation as well as the animations of HTC sense are far better than go , apex and other UI launchers.
Now being laggy or buggy is something I really wanna wait to comment on but first we wanna test it.
I'm resisting to buy HTC one X and to give up on my SGS II because I believe in that our developers are capable to create a powerful and better performing android OS on SGS II that with HTC sense UI would be better than any HTC device.
Back to main subject we need developer's opinion in porting HTC sense UI based roms to our SGS II.
I wish moderators here would kindly move this thread to any subforum in which devs are more likely to see and comment or may be to contribute to this subject.
Thanx all for replying.
There was a dev thread...it got closed due to spam posts
[PROJECT] [PORT] HTC Sense UI 3.0 [ WORK IN PROGRESS ]
Hahaha I did.
Congrats on the 1000th mate *applauds*
B3311 said:
And MistahBungle is right too, he just forgot "overponcey bloatware"...
And much more importantly, I'd like to take this opportunity to congratulate myself on my 1000th post.
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The thing is that not many devs are interested in doing that here.
It is called as a resource hog but still there are users like me who would want to see such a thing happen.
Well in the end its on the devs. Not much we can do about it, just support them by donations and reporting bugs.
frankimm said:
The thing is that not many devs are interested in doing that here.
It is called as a resource hog but still there are users like me who would want to see such a thing happen.
Well in the end its on the devs. Not much we can do about it, just support them by donations and reporting bugs.
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Yeah I'll surely donate but we need somebody who actually start porting it. Not only me you will see a bunch of people who are willing/will donate to this project.
Peace.
In my opinion sense 3 is ugly and Sense 4 isn't any diffrent from fror exsample go launcher
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@Makrilli.
You haven't tried it, I believe
Anyway, this thread for people who are interested not only in using sense IU but also to contribute positively to it.
peace.
Oweida said:
@Makrilli.
You haven't tried it, I believe
Anyway, this thread for people who are interested not only in using sense IU but also to contribute positively to it.
peace.
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Judged by the number of Sense threads two points are plain one HTC users want it on SGS2 and two nearly a year down the line and it must be to difficult to port .
Which points to the simple fact that SGS2 devs dont want to port it or have found to many stumbling blocks to make it worth while .Probably the later is the big reason why no sense .
jje
Good day everybody
No developers yet !!
Obviously, this subform has less developer activity
Peace
Plenty of devs read Q&A.
It's a crap idea as has already been said Think about it. You're a dev...you have a job, a family, other interests. You have a choice say, between developing/maintaining something like a kernel or a rom (or an app even) which hundreds/thousands/tens of thousands of people will appreciate, use & offer feedback on, which will be an ongoing thing...
Or you port a UI from another device to please a couple of dozen fanboys of said different device which is both ugly (just my opinion) & consumes a crapload of device resources/isn't 'efficient'.
I know what I'd be doing.
Oweida said:
Good day everybody
No developers yet !!
Obviously, this subform has less developer activity
Peace
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Of course it has less developer activity - as has been pointed out to you at least twice.
To repeat - devs just don't post on this subforum, for the reasons stated earlier. They may read it, but why would they post here.
Try searching for how many "recognised developers" have posted in Q&A previously. Do you really think they're going to ask us normal punters tecnical questions??
To be frank, you're flogging a dead horse. No debate on the subject is forthcoming, no-one seems to be trying to actively port Sense, and no discussion is going to change that.
Give it up.
B3311 said:
Of course it has less developer activity - as has been pointed out to you at least twice.
To repeat - devs just don't post on this subforum, for the reasons stated earlier. They may read it, but why would they post here.
Try searching for how many "recognised developers" have posted in Q&A previously. Do you really think they're going to ask us normal punters tecnical questions??
To be frank, you're flogging a dead horse. No debate on the subject is forthcoming, no-one seems to be trying to actively port Sense, and no discussion is going to change that.
Give it up.
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I really feel sad about this. The good thing is HTC has released it's miracle HTC one X which has both powerful hardware and amazing software and may be I will buy it
Thanx All for replying.
Peace
Please Forum moderator move this thread to the discussion sub forum ,,,,
Peace
Please administrators/moderators move this topic to general forum , maybe it will get somebody's attention.
yes most the sgs2 users need sense 4 on their sgs2 i also want to see sense 4 on my sgs2
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This WAS a ICS De-Sensed Rom based off of the latest ICS Global OTA. It is now however based off of my latest INFECTION 2.5 CM 4.2.2 rom
This was created because XDA member localceleb wanted a rom to use JUST for tethering yet still needed to be able to make callls, receive texts, and surf the web.
THAT'S IT.
This rom would be best suited as a bootmanager/side load rom to be used simply for tethering (but still able to receive calls and messages just in case someone needs to get a hold of you!)
Please note... There is NOTHING left in this rom. This is not built for practical everyday use! So do not expect a whole lot of support for it. It was designed as bare as possible for tethering purposes.
If you don't agree with me then you will die.
For you tweakers out there that want to build a rom (FOR YOURSELF, NOT FOR POSTING on the forums) this rom is a perfect base for you to add in the missing elements you miss. Just grab a cm-10.1 build of the latest Global and have at it with 7zip.
Miss having a calendar? pull Calendar.apk and CalendarProvider.apk from it and drop it into the same folder of your base rom. Done. same goes for most apps you're missing.
Additionally, I have done a few tweaking to this rom for battery life and network speed.
Click to Download--->BARE BONES Sense ICS version (209mb)
md5: d89b861ba291ab51be6ae8c09fbaf790
Click to Download--->BARE BONES Sense JB AOSP version (86mb)
md5: [/CENTER]
*NOTE* You MUST be on the latest global firmware to flash the ics sense version.
If you like my work, donations are always accepted!
Thanks to the following for all their support, permissions, and friendship:
mbobino - For answering all my newb questions and always willing to help.
zhp pilot - For going beyond simply providing theme support by always helping me, and for the keyboard included in this rom.
SynisterWolf - For always helping my users.
XRaptor29 - For help and giving me the idea to even start developing.
Hanger84 - For answering all my noob questions and being good help.
Wildstang83 - For answering all my noob questions and always willing to assist.
DMeadows01 - For letting me kick him all the time and always telling me "IDK".
A big THANK YOU to the following XDA Members for their generosity! I appreciate everything!
Please PM me with your username if you are one of the following non xda user names listed below so that I may have you recognized properly.
CompTek
WeThePeople13
Roland Deschain
Drew
Matthew P.
Tad
B.MAC
J
Thomas
whotahnHTC
Matthew S.
David
If you like my work, donations are happily accepted!
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One more for me for downloads, changelogs, FAQ's, etc
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Curses. a Rom I wish I could run if I still had the Rezound lol. Well done neo on some amazing work.
Just a quick compliment
Neo,
Just wanted to give a shout out to you for all the hard work you're doing in putting out your latest ROMs. It's awesome that you're putting something out there for everyone (whether they're Sense fanboys or like the more ASOP look/feel). Looking forward to your next few updates!
S-On Rezound
Running Adrenaline ROM V2.0, w/ Apex Pro
Wow I've truly never seen anything like this be done. Absolutely genious. This is a super smart way of getting insane battery life, I might just have to try this with my thunderbolt when I get my rezzy back and the bolt gets returned into a wifi hotspots only device.
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'If you dont agree with me then you die" I love it!!!
Downloading now.
This would be great if you have an old rezound and want to use it as a mp3 player!
Oh sense.... Stripped bare and still twice the size of AOSP. What did HTC do lol? Nice job on this Neo
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Oh sense.... Stripped bare and still twice the size of AOSP. What did HTC do lol? Nice job on this Neo
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Thanks. I know right? Totally gutted and still huge.
-={X}=- is born
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1860632
I noticed a major bug with this rom...when tethering to my PS3 to play battlefield I still get killed all the time by the enemies...any possible workarounds?
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localceleb said:
I noticed a major bug with this rom...when tethering to my PS3 to play battlefield I still get killed all the time by the enemies...any possible workarounds?
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Blame Neo!
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localceleb said:
I noticed a major bug with this rom...when tethering to my PS3 to play battlefield I still get killed all the time by the enemies...any possible workarounds?
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Read the OP: If you don't believe him, you die!
BELIEVE IN NEO
drkow19 said:
Read the OP: If you don't believe him, you die!
BELIEVE IN NEO
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That's what happened to those who didn't believe. Follow the white rabbit my children
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THANK YOU
I wanted to take a moment to Thank all those who have donated since I've started pushing roms for the rez a few months ago. I also appreciate the many of you who have spent their time answering several of the questions within my threads that have literally saved me LOTS of time from having to do it myself even though I try to stay as active as I can with the questions in all my threads. You guys rock!
I have modified the OP to reflect those donators as I feel they should be recognized. If you see your name in the list and it is NOT your xda id, please by all means pm me with your member id and I will correct the op in all 8 of my threads.
As a reminder to all, I create these roms for the community without any expectations from any of you. There is NO COST involved on my part to make these roms. Remember that nothing is required of you to continue receiving updated material and to enjoy my work.
Thanks again to all,
-Neo
Missing?
Where is Neo?
Where has he gone?
Has someone kidnapped him?
No.. He's simply been focusing on work while at work
I've been away due to recent illnesses, a feared brick tablet that I now have running in prime condition once again, and lots of busy projects/busy non android related work.
Tomorrow I will have an Android day but I can't guarantee release of anything or whatever.. but it will be my android day
I've decided that after the release of the NeoMAX and Adrenaline sense-less updates and possibly (but not likely) updates to Sense roms Simplistic and INJECTION, that I will be going on an indefinite hiatus for continued development to those roms. Furthermore, I will be releasing roms less frequently to ICS AOSP version roms RAGE and AOKP (but not pausing development)
My primary focus on both the roms and in thread help will be more towards Jelly Bean development ie INFECTION, TRON-Umbrella, & TRON although I will be tending to RAGE ics from time to time as I consider it to be the most stable of all my aosp work (we all need a little stability form time to time).
There will however be an update between tomorrow and next week for RAGE as I realized in my ill state at the time that I'd left out a few key mods that were present in other versions which left me kicking myself for not remembering them. Thus, 1.9.7 will be born soon.
I'll keep you guys updated on my progress and let you know what I'm up to when the time comes. I just wanted you all to know that I'm confirming a shift of focus to those 4 roms and any cutting edge development.
-Neo
Re: [ROM][08.29.12]8==8<BARE BONES>8==8 [ICS De-Sensed Global 3.6 - 4.03.605.2]
IAmTheOneTheyCallNeo said:
Where is Neo?
Where has he gone?
Has someone kidnapped him?
No.. He's simply been focusing on work while at work
I've been away due to recent illnesses, a feared brick tablet that I now have running in prime condition once again, and lots of busy projects/busy non android related work.
Tomorrow I will have an Android day but I can't guarantee release of anything or whatever.. but it will be my android day
I've decided that after the release of the NeoMAX and Adrenaline sense-less updates and possibly (but not likely) updates to Sense roms Simplistic and INJECTION, that I will be going on an indefinite hiatus for continued development to those roms. Furthermore, I will be releasing roms less frequently to ICS AOSP version roms RAGE and AOKP (but not pausing development)
My primary focus on both the roms and in thread help will be more towards Jelly Bean development ie INFECTION, TRON-Umbrella, & TRON although I will be tending to RAGE ics from time to time as I consider it to be the most stable of all my aosp work (we all need a little stability form time to time).
There will however be an update between tomorrow and next week for RAGE as I realized in my ill state at the time that I'd left out a few key mods that were present in other versions which left me kicking myself for not remembering them. Thus, 1.9.7 will be born soon.
I'll keep you guys updated on my progress and let you know what I'm up to when the time comes. I just wanted you all to know that I'm confirming a shift of focus to those 4 roms and any cutting edge development.
-Neo
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tl;dr just keep swimming.
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So long!
Now that I have updated this little side loader for you guys, it's time to close the thread for now
Enjoy it
-Neo
Interesting thought but HTC may have a senseless verion come out. I wouldn't look to far into it until we get confirmation but it is a cool thought. At least we can expect the 4.2 update soon Source http://www.androidauthority.com/htc-one-android-4-2-2-update-senseless-212178/
If it did and they kept the same hardware that means an easy port
I'm not big on stock Android because I don't like the onscreen buttons(especially when the phone has capacaive buttons already)
I am however looking forward to 4.2.2 w/ Sense.
nest75068 said:
I'm not big on stock Android because I don't like the onscreen buttons(especially when the phone has capacaive buttons already)
I am however looking forward to 4.2.2 w/ Sense.
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you do know that if the HTC One get stock android it wil not have the on screen buttons right? Those are for phones without hardware buttons. On screen buttons normally are something people put in custom roms and you have the choice to enable or disable
joshuadjohnson22 said:
you do know that if the HTC One get stock android it wil not have the on screen buttons right? Those are for phones without hardware buttons. On screen buttons normally are something people put in custom roms and you have the choice to enable or disable
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do I miss something, or misread...... but since when the stock android does not have on-screen software buttons?
This is the standard of the stock Android and man does not need a custom ROM to enable it.
RalphLauren said:
do I miss something, or misread...... but since when the stock android does not have on-screen software buttons?
This is the standard of the stock Android and man does not need a custom ROM to enable it.
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The last nexus devices had onscreen buttons because the manufacturer decided not to use hardware keys. It is possible to have stock android without onscreen keys. The galaxy S4 is about to release pure android and it will not have on screen keys because the S4 has hardware buttons.
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The galaxy S4 is about to release pure android and it will not have on screen keys because the S4 has hardware buttons.
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Yep it's interesting indeed.
Stock Android has 3 software buttons, which are indeed substituted by 3 hardware buttons of Samsung.
But than how about only 2 capacaive buttons of HTC.....
RalphLauren said:
Yep it's interesting indeed.
Stock Android has 3 software buttons, which are indeed substituted by 3 hardware buttons of Samsung.
But than how about only 2 capacaive buttons of HTC.....
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This is simple. They will just map it like they did on the sense version. The 3 on screen buttons are coded into the android OS but can be coded to use the hardware buttons instead. This has been done many times and is very easy... I think your thinking is backwards. Software keys are just an option of pure android that the phone company decides to use or not use. It is not set in stone at all. It is just as easy for them to map the normal buttons to do the same. In fact we already have pure android roms that probably either dont have software buttons or you can turn them off. I had the One X and ran it that way for a long time...
joshuadjohnson22 said:
This is simple. They will just map it like they did on the sense version. The 3 on screen buttons are coded into the android OS but can be coded to use the hardware buttons instead. This has been done many times and is very easy... I think your thinking is backwards. Software keys are just an option of pure android that the phone company decides to use or not use. It is not set in stone at all. It is just as easy for them to map the normal buttons to do the same. In fact we already have pure android roms that probably either dont have software buttons or you can turn them off. I had the One X and ran it that way for a long time...
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I really do not know what direction my thinking is going , really
I never have had an Android phone with the hardware buttons (coming from GNexus), so I was always thinking that the pure Google Android has 3 software buttons and all the tinkering with the hardware buttons (including the number of buttons) are done by phone producers and somehow can not be called "pure" android experience.
Apparently the fact that the Galaxy will be offered via GooglePlay, tells that Google is still ok to substitute 3 software buttons with 3 hardware, but I do not feel like Google will be engaged into remapping something in their stock OS for two-buttoned HTC.
But ......qui vivra vera
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I really do not know what direction my thinking is going , really
I never have had an Android phone with the hardware buttons (coming from GNexus), so I was always thinking that the pure Google Android has 3 software buttons and all the tinkering with the hardware buttons (including the number of buttons) are done by phone producers and somehow can not be called "pure" android experience.
Apparently the fact that the Galaxy will be offered via GooglePlay, tells that Google is still ok to substitute 3 software buttons with 3 hardware, but I do not feel like Google will be engaged into remapping something in their stock OS for two-buttoned HTC.
But ......qui vivra vera
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...the first 2 nexus devices had 4 hardware buttons:
By that logic the 3 button should have blown their minds? Of course it can be done... it is a very easy fix. But there is no need to keep acting like google would not honor them if htc wanted to toss Android on the One.
At this point we only have speculation, we don't know if it is HTC that will just remove sense and leave it pure or if google will also sell on the play store. It may not even happen and we can just enjoy the roms. But to argue that they wont because of two buttons just seems silly to me. They will just use the same layout that sense has now.
Can't wait
joshuadjohnson22 said:
Interesting thought but HTC may have a senseless verion come out. I wouldn't look to far into it until we get confirmation but it is a cool thought. At least we can expect the 4.2 update
If it did and they kept the same hardware that means an easy port
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Sounds good! They just need to release their source to the world so all the one's excellent devs can get to work :fingers-crossed:
The trusty Nexus One... Probably my favorite device of ALL time. The G1 got me hooked, the Nexus One solidified me as an Android lover.
If I had had about this before getting this phone I might have held off but I'm liking sense right now after using a galaxy nexus for the past year.
TapaTolkien
aka757 said:
If I had had about this before getting this phone I might have held off but I'm liking sense right now after using a galaxy nexus for the past year.
TapaTolkien
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It will probably be the exact save hardware as our phone which means we will get all the upgrades and roms for it. We if we want a break from sense we can enjoy this as an alternative.
From what I have read it isn't going to be another HTC One just without sense. I have read (from multiple sources) that it is going to be a totally new device that may follow in the One's footsteps from a hardware standpoint but will still be a completely different device. I also read that the One on Att will have an update rolling out in 2 weeks. Hopefully it contains 4.2.2
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From what I have read it isn't going to be another HTC One just without sense. I have read (from multiple sources) that it is going to be a totally new device that may follow in the One's footsteps from a hardware standpoint but will still be a completely different device. I also read that the One on Att will have an update rolling out in 2 weeks. Hopefully it contains 4.2.2
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Hmm I hope that is not true. From the source he made it seem like a HTC One will be senseless but he could have been mistaken. I hope a formal announcement will be made
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Hmm I hope that is not true. From the source he made it seem like a HTC One will be senseless but he could have been mistaken. I hope a formal announcement will be made
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Yeah and I read this from both TechnoBuffalo and CNET. They could both be wrong about it being a whole new device. But at this point everything being said is mostly speculation and we won't know anything for sure until htc announces it.
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Android_Noob_2k12 said:
Yeah and I read this from both TechnoBuffalo and CNET. They could both be wrong about it being a whole new device. But at this point everything being said is mostly speculation and we won't know anything for sure until htc announces it.
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I personally don't doubt a new device(they do that every year after their flagship is announced), the question is will they have the HTC One with pure android or not. Something we may not know until they confirm. Either way I'm happy with Sense 5 and don't need it, just a cool idea. Our devs will get the Rom stable enough without it but it would be cool to have one without issues.
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I personally don't doubt a new device(they do that every year after their flagship is announced), the question is will they have the HTC One with pure android or not. Something we may not know until they confirm. Either way I'm happy with Sense 5 and don't need it, just a cool idea. Our devs will get the Rom stable enough without it but it would be cool to have one without issues.
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What I'm hoping is they offer a one time payment deal that allows you to download aosp direct to your one. That way I can have either sense 5 based or the latest pure android.
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Android_Noob_2k12 said:
What I'm hoping is they offer a one time payment deal that allows you to download aosp direct to your one. That way I can have either sense 5 based or the latest pure android.
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That sounds like something that only happens in dream. As good of an idea that is I don't see them ever doing that. If they just make one for the HTC One i would prefer our devs grabing the image and making it into a rom. If they did go that route we would probably have to use stock recovery anyways. I'm hoping for added goodies in 4.2.2 sense 5 sounds so worth it
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What I'm hoping is they offer a one time payment deal that allows you to download aosp direct to your one. That way I can have either sense 5 based or the latest pure android.
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Maybe
http://www.androidauthority.com/htc-one-stock-android-edition-215254/
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WARNING: This kernel is UNTESTED / WORK IN PROGRESS at the moment. If YOU choose to flash it, YOU are responsible for any damage on your phone.
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This is our attempt to bring sense 4+/5 to our devices, sources are on GitHub, if you want to contribute your help is MORE THAN WELCOME
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IMPORTANT: Evo 3D is our (Howpathetic's, Želvica's and Snoob25's) only phone, so obviously we don't want to brick it. Maybe we have found a tester, that can risk it since Evo 3D is his secondary phone. EVERYONE who is willing to help us with his device can PM us. If we can't find anyone we could ask users if they want to donate for a test device (used Evo 3Ds are around 30-40€ here)
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We are not responsible for bricking/destroying your phone. Custom ROMS and KERNELS comes with no warranty.
30.6 -> Phone turned off after HTC splash screen (can be turned on afterwards) - DOWNLOAD - LOG
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SOURCES
https://github.com/Howpathetic/Revolution_kernel
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CREDITS
- SebastianFM, for the HUGE work he did to port this kernel to Sensation, his work has been a great reference
- Whoever will help us will be added here
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Testing in progress :
30.6 -> Phone turned off after HTC splash screen
2.7 -> Still not booting.
To do:
Rework whole Media MSM.
Yes!!!! Finally!!! very very good job!! keep it up!:good::fingers-crossed:
howpathetic said:
Testing in progress :
30.6 -> Phone turned off after HTC splash screen
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Which ROM did you use and can you turn the phone ON again?
miksi said:
Which ROM did you use and can you turn the phone ON again?
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a ported rom for personal use when we'll reach at least bootanimation we'll think about a proper rom, a direct port from villec2 or a port from sensation (with proper permissions)
Yep, can be booted again
Just a thumbs up for not letting go of this device as HTC did. That's the spirit of xda I adore. Also if you achieve to make a ROM with 3D support I will scrap or postpone my plans to get a new device this/next year since the basic reason I want to scrap this device is that I have to either suffer from the slowness of those butchered stock versions of ICS+3.6/4 Sense and keep 3D functions or sacrifice 3D for a fast and super responsive 4.1.x+.
Devs here did an amazing job (and almost did the impossible) to improve as much as they could those clunky 3.6/4 Sense + ICS versions out there but they were really trying to do the impossible since all those versions pretty like sucked out of the box, obviously because they were results of either HTC not caring about that device they were making the ROM for (the case of all Sense 3.6 devices), or they had no idea what they were doing and they were feeling like being experimental (all devices with Sense 4 at launch), resulting into terribly optimized ROMS for devices that can do alot better than that. It's not like ICS was a real step forward in performance compared to GB so let alone an ICS rom built at that bad period from HTC (I can't say that though for JB+ based versions of Sense though, these are good and feel as they should).
If you want any testing, I'm here to help without a second thought.
I have two 3d's. One I use daily at work for music and another sits in a drawer at home. "might" be thinking about donating to a dev... They are both Sprint branded devices meaning CDMA... I can also do some testing but this is kernel for gsm only?
waaooo~ It is amazing news!! Maybe after my exam this month, I probably have time to test that.
GOOD WORK!!
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I have two 3d's. One I use daily at work for music and another sits in a drawer at home. "might" be thinking about donating to a dev... They are both Sprint branded devices meaning CDMA... I can also do some testing but this is kernel for gsm only?
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Yo, I've been waiting to jump into Sense porting for a device like this. It would be awesome if you were willing to let your spare one go, as I am super excited about getting a Sense 5 rom booting for the Evo 3D. I'd be really happy to do testing for these guys working on this kernel. I've done prior work in Sense porting for the Nexus One and the Incredible 2.
Thanks
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Yo, I've been waiting to jump into Sense porting for a device like this. It would be awesome if you were willing to let your spare one go, as I am super excited about getting a Sense 5 rom booting for the Evo 3D. I'd be really happy to do testing for these guys working on this kernel. I've done prior work in Sense porting for the Nexus One and the Incredible 2.
Thanks
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I can do testing as well, if no other dev wants it I can send it
Jbb3393 said:
I can do testing as well, if no other dev wants it I can send it
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Please nobody else want this device lol.
tommypacker said:
Please nobody else want this device lol.
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Alright,, I believe there is a problem with the screen on it or the power button though. When trying to wake it from sleep only the navigation buttons will light up and a reboot is necessary. But it should be a great testing device.
Jbb3393 said:
Alright,, I believe there is a problem with the screen on it or the power button though. When trying to wake it from sleep only the navigation buttons will light up and a reboot is necessary. But it should be a great testing device.
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Message me on hangouts: [email protected]
For now testing is limited, we determined that kernel doesn't brick anything, now it's all a matter of coding! About that spare evo, that could be helpful, I'd say ask howpathetic through pm if he needs it, and specify that it is a shooter
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Any news?
BLiZzR said:
Any news?
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second version didn't give any log, howpathetic asked mrg666 but looks like he was stuck at the same point! right now he's reviewing boards, let's see
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second version didn't give any log, howpathetic asked mrg666 but looks like he was stuck at the same point! right now he's reviewing boards, let's see
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good luck with the hard work
Did you make sure to build the boot.img with the proper ramdisk offset? Kernel's default ramdisk offset is 16MB, but the 3.4 kernel is big, so the ramdisk load offset needs to be set to 20MB (0x01400000). If you don't do this then the kernel will keep bootlooping. USB parameters in the ramdisk also need to be updated in order to use ADB for when you're debugging later on.
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EDIT: Wait, is the goal to get a 3.4 kernel working, or a Sense 4+ ROM booting? If you're just trying to get Sense 4+ booting then getting a 3.4 kernel working isn't necessary. All of the Qualcomm drivers that make 3.4 special can be backported to 3.0, which can be used to boot Sense 4+.
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For now testing is limited, we determined that kernel doesn't brick anything, now it's all a matter of coding! About that spare evo, that could be helpful, I'd say ask howpathetic through pm if he needs it, and specify that it is a shooter
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Hello Snoob
Well after I have seen the title of this Post i was like oh yeeees ;D
If more testers are needed I have a spare HTC EVO 3D GSM version (actually my first one that I bought myself when it was released)
I always loved it cause it was heavy, well builded and I felt like having something premium in hand (samsung felt always cheap to me)
Well after all the years I had to change the digitizer but unfortunate it was a chinese copy and the undersite of it peel of and now i have like a nasty circle on the lcd (will fix it cause my friend told me to remove the digitizer and a a scrren portector on the lcd and put the digiter bad so that nasty circle will go away) and the front aluminium bezel felt of (old glue ofc)
So after all that and I hade not the time to fix it I bought another EVO 3D because I like it that much.
But now I have a HTC Sensation ¸that I got as a gift from a friend in top shape and my EVOs are sleeping
Yeah I know long story but the point is that the first one even with all the problems works 100% so I would like to test for yaa kernel and even ROMs cause I always wanted to see sense 5 on EVO 3D happen but dont have the skill my own.
So my testing device is; HTC EVO 3D GSM version (no carrier version)
PM me please If you decide that you need another tester
And Big Kudos To You Guys For Still Suporting The EVO 3D
Just a little note .. I think most of us want to see a Sense 5 in our EVO3D... (and not the 4+, which is very similar to sense 4.1, at least graphically). So if you have the same possibility to make a sense 4+ or a sense 5, maybe you could do a survey.. so if the people say sense 5 rom (or sense 4+) you can focus your energies on a single project
Sorry for bad english and thanks for everything!!!:fingers-crossed: