Interesting thought but HTC may have a senseless verion come out. I wouldn't look to far into it until we get confirmation but it is a cool thought. At least we can expect the 4.2 update soon Source http://www.androidauthority.com/htc-one-android-4-2-2-update-senseless-212178/
If it did and they kept the same hardware that means an easy port
I'm not big on stock Android because I don't like the onscreen buttons(especially when the phone has capacaive buttons already)
I am however looking forward to 4.2.2 w/ Sense.
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I'm not big on stock Android because I don't like the onscreen buttons(especially when the phone has capacaive buttons already)
I am however looking forward to 4.2.2 w/ Sense.
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you do know that if the HTC One get stock android it wil not have the on screen buttons right? Those are for phones without hardware buttons. On screen buttons normally are something people put in custom roms and you have the choice to enable or disable
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you do know that if the HTC One get stock android it wil not have the on screen buttons right? Those are for phones without hardware buttons. On screen buttons normally are something people put in custom roms and you have the choice to enable or disable
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do I miss something, or misread...... but since when the stock android does not have on-screen software buttons?
This is the standard of the stock Android and man does not need a custom ROM to enable it.
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do I miss something, or misread...... but since when the stock android does not have on-screen software buttons?
This is the standard of the stock Android and man does not need a custom ROM to enable it.
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The last nexus devices had onscreen buttons because the manufacturer decided not to use hardware keys. It is possible to have stock android without onscreen keys. The galaxy S4 is about to release pure android and it will not have on screen keys because the S4 has hardware buttons.
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The galaxy S4 is about to release pure android and it will not have on screen keys because the S4 has hardware buttons.
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Yep it's interesting indeed.
Stock Android has 3 software buttons, which are indeed substituted by 3 hardware buttons of Samsung.
But than how about only 2 capacaive buttons of HTC.....
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Yep it's interesting indeed.
Stock Android has 3 software buttons, which are indeed substituted by 3 hardware buttons of Samsung.
But than how about only 2 capacaive buttons of HTC.....
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This is simple. They will just map it like they did on the sense version. The 3 on screen buttons are coded into the android OS but can be coded to use the hardware buttons instead. This has been done many times and is very easy... I think your thinking is backwards. Software keys are just an option of pure android that the phone company decides to use or not use. It is not set in stone at all. It is just as easy for them to map the normal buttons to do the same. In fact we already have pure android roms that probably either dont have software buttons or you can turn them off. I had the One X and ran it that way for a long time...
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This is simple. They will just map it like they did on the sense version. The 3 on screen buttons are coded into the android OS but can be coded to use the hardware buttons instead. This has been done many times and is very easy... I think your thinking is backwards. Software keys are just an option of pure android that the phone company decides to use or not use. It is not set in stone at all. It is just as easy for them to map the normal buttons to do the same. In fact we already have pure android roms that probably either dont have software buttons or you can turn them off. I had the One X and ran it that way for a long time...
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I really do not know what direction my thinking is going , really
I never have had an Android phone with the hardware buttons (coming from GNexus), so I was always thinking that the pure Google Android has 3 software buttons and all the tinkering with the hardware buttons (including the number of buttons) are done by phone producers and somehow can not be called "pure" android experience.
Apparently the fact that the Galaxy will be offered via GooglePlay, tells that Google is still ok to substitute 3 software buttons with 3 hardware, but I do not feel like Google will be engaged into remapping something in their stock OS for two-buttoned HTC.
But ......qui vivra vera
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I really do not know what direction my thinking is going , really
I never have had an Android phone with the hardware buttons (coming from GNexus), so I was always thinking that the pure Google Android has 3 software buttons and all the tinkering with the hardware buttons (including the number of buttons) are done by phone producers and somehow can not be called "pure" android experience.
Apparently the fact that the Galaxy will be offered via GooglePlay, tells that Google is still ok to substitute 3 software buttons with 3 hardware, but I do not feel like Google will be engaged into remapping something in their stock OS for two-buttoned HTC.
But ......qui vivra vera
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...the first 2 nexus devices had 4 hardware buttons:
By that logic the 3 button should have blown their minds? Of course it can be done... it is a very easy fix. But there is no need to keep acting like google would not honor them if htc wanted to toss Android on the One.
At this point we only have speculation, we don't know if it is HTC that will just remove sense and leave it pure or if google will also sell on the play store. It may not even happen and we can just enjoy the roms. But to argue that they wont because of two buttons just seems silly to me. They will just use the same layout that sense has now.
Can't wait
joshuadjohnson22 said:
Interesting thought but HTC may have a senseless verion come out. I wouldn't look to far into it until we get confirmation but it is a cool thought. At least we can expect the 4.2 update
If it did and they kept the same hardware that means an easy port
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Sounds good! They just need to release their source to the world so all the one's excellent devs can get to work :fingers-crossed:
The trusty Nexus One... Probably my favorite device of ALL time. The G1 got me hooked, the Nexus One solidified me as an Android lover.
If I had had about this before getting this phone I might have held off but I'm liking sense right now after using a galaxy nexus for the past year.
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If I had had about this before getting this phone I might have held off but I'm liking sense right now after using a galaxy nexus for the past year.
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It will probably be the exact save hardware as our phone which means we will get all the upgrades and roms for it. We if we want a break from sense we can enjoy this as an alternative.
From what I have read it isn't going to be another HTC One just without sense. I have read (from multiple sources) that it is going to be a totally new device that may follow in the One's footsteps from a hardware standpoint but will still be a completely different device. I also read that the One on Att will have an update rolling out in 2 weeks. Hopefully it contains 4.2.2
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From what I have read it isn't going to be another HTC One just without sense. I have read (from multiple sources) that it is going to be a totally new device that may follow in the One's footsteps from a hardware standpoint but will still be a completely different device. I also read that the One on Att will have an update rolling out in 2 weeks. Hopefully it contains 4.2.2
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Hmm I hope that is not true. From the source he made it seem like a HTC One will be senseless but he could have been mistaken. I hope a formal announcement will be made
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Hmm I hope that is not true. From the source he made it seem like a HTC One will be senseless but he could have been mistaken. I hope a formal announcement will be made
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Yeah and I read this from both TechnoBuffalo and CNET. They could both be wrong about it being a whole new device. But at this point everything being said is mostly speculation and we won't know anything for sure until htc announces it.
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Yeah and I read this from both TechnoBuffalo and CNET. They could both be wrong about it being a whole new device. But at this point everything being said is mostly speculation and we won't know anything for sure until htc announces it.
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I personally don't doubt a new device(they do that every year after their flagship is announced), the question is will they have the HTC One with pure android or not. Something we may not know until they confirm. Either way I'm happy with Sense 5 and don't need it, just a cool idea. Our devs will get the Rom stable enough without it but it would be cool to have one without issues.
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I personally don't doubt a new device(they do that every year after their flagship is announced), the question is will they have the HTC One with pure android or not. Something we may not know until they confirm. Either way I'm happy with Sense 5 and don't need it, just a cool idea. Our devs will get the Rom stable enough without it but it would be cool to have one without issues.
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What I'm hoping is they offer a one time payment deal that allows you to download aosp direct to your one. That way I can have either sense 5 based or the latest pure android.
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What I'm hoping is they offer a one time payment deal that allows you to download aosp direct to your one. That way I can have either sense 5 based or the latest pure android.
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That sounds like something that only happens in dream. As good of an idea that is I don't see them ever doing that. If they just make one for the HTC One i would prefer our devs grabing the image and making it into a rom. If they did go that route we would probably have to use stock recovery anyways. I'm hoping for added goodies in 4.2.2 sense 5 sounds so worth it
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What I'm hoping is they offer a one time payment deal that allows you to download aosp direct to your one. That way I can have either sense 5 based or the latest pure android.
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Maybe
http://www.androidauthority.com/htc-one-stock-android-edition-215254/
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Hi All ,,
A. Why HTC sense ?!
1- It's a thought and developers may give it a chance
2- I'm talking about a fully functional launcher with all the widgets very well implemented and displayed.
2.1- Enjoy watching this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sfRaWBgWao
2.2- Enjoy these pictures !!!
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B. Why SGS III ?!
1- It's has a quad core processor along with the same system partions like HTC devies.
2- We have the kernel code resources released which might help.
3- It will be the most incredibly fascinating combination of the best software inside the best hardware ever ?!
Do we have anybody trying to HTC sense 4.0 to non HTC devices specifically Samasung ones ?! The answer is Yes see below ;
http://www.sense4all.nazuka.net/?cat=8
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1657050
C. What we need from end users / thread quick repliers ?!
1- If you support this idea by any means you are welcome to post your comments .
2- If you don't support this idea and have no positive comment's kindly please don't flood this thread with discouraging words.
3- If you are a developer ( Unlike me ) who knows what are the obstacles and difficulties that may arise in doing this project which make commencing it is a futile idea please and please write in details what can't be done by you, who knows, may be somebody can help to solve it.
Thanx and PEACE
I really love this TouchWiz. It's pretty snappy and feels very premium to look at. I only hoped it had some transition effects. Haven't tried Sense though.
I would really love to have htc sense on the sprint samsung galaxy s2.
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m33ts4k0z said:
I really love this TouchWiz. It's pretty snappy and feels very premium to look at. I only hoped it had some transition effects. Haven't tried Sense though.
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Yeah,,, Samsung had improved TouchWiz a little bit but IMHO the powerful hardware and the weather widget made the huge difference but essentially still you can say it's just a normal launcher nothing of a big interest in TouchWiz.
Now just have a look on HTC sense especially version 4 and you'll probably get to know what real launcher development looks like !!!!
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I would really love to have htc sense on the sprint samsung galaxy s2.
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You touch a deep bleeding wound inside me
No one on SGS II forums is actually willing to start porting HTC sense or even think about ( Except Swamp Goblin who has not shown any interest lately may be he is busy or I don't really know ).
Hopefully somebody their will take the challenge and try to do it
Will it seems we need to wait for Teamhacksung to release CM9 for S III for devs to start porting
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there is a chance of this but it will be hard cos sense is kinda in a affair with the cpu if you can break it up then maybe btw i also saw that a dev said is was impossible we will try(im not a dev but i have a few mates on rootwikiz
GREAT
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there is a chance of this but it will be hard cos sense is kinda in a affair with the cpu if you can break it up then maybe btw i also saw that a dev said is was impossible we will try(im not a dev but i have a few mates on rootwikiz
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Thanks brother
If you have willing developers why not to recruit them to achieve this great project. Believe me it is at least doable ,, Sense for all team got it working on Nexus S devices although it is a single core processor and the resolution is much much lower. Now Qube2 is willing to help but he is waiting for CM9 which will be the best rom base to strt with. Kernel developers also needed and hopefully they will be got attracted to such a project.
Peace
Sense always has and always will be this ugly bloated stain on Android
I really don't get what people see in it, it's just UGLY, and it's slow and buggy, even the videos praising it you can see it slowing down the OneX or being unresponsive from time to time. Seriously HTC should have called it quits on Sense years ago
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Sense always has and always will be this ugly bloated stain on Android
I really don't get what people see in it, it's just UGLY, and it's slow and buggy, even the videos praising it you can see it slowing down the OneX or being unresponsive from time to time. Seriously HTC should have called it quits on Sense years ago
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Firstly and at last it's a user preference, I've tried it on HTC one X it it's buttery smooth especially when developers boosted it's performance kernel wise as well as launcher wise. Check the HTC one X forum and see how tremendously they have optimized it .
Apart of from that HTC from porting is really a challenge that developers may get excited to take and experience.
IMHO, HTC SENSE UI is the best ever called UI with all the beautiful Widgets and social apps implementations.
Hopefully starting working on this will be soon.
Peace
Oweida you already know as soon as cm9 is out i wil start working so please Teamhacksung do your wonderfull job
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Oweida you already know as soon as cm9 is out i wil start working so please Teamhacksung do your wonderfull job
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Well
I'm trying to make this thread a live .
Have no doubt that you will achieve a huge effort on HTC from porting
Peace
I was just thinking. If you want Sense then why not just buy the One X?
It's not like it's a terrible phone or something.
I had it for a month, but come on both hardwares are almost incomparable especiall the screen type. Now just check the performance and you will see S 3 is far a head.
It will come.
I just can't wait till CM9 that way we get Sense 4.0 on this beast.
Touchwiz is the biggest abomination inflicted on vanilla android, its awful looking, unintuitive, and simply does alot of things worse than stock ICS on my old Galaxy Nexus did.
At least HTC have tried to go the right way, and limit customisations to areas that can do with improvement, and not include anything thats alot worse than stock. The TW4 launcher is fugly, the folders implementation is Samsung giving ICS **** folders we haven't seen since Froyo on stock.
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It will come.
I just can't wait till CM9 that way we get Sense 4.0 on this beast.
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Hi bro, if you have any expertise in building or kernel development , maybe you can join the sense 4 all team and help them . We can start at least alphas by you
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Touchwiz is the biggest abomination inflicted on vanilla android, its awful looking, unintuitive, and simply does alot of things worse than stock ICS on my old Galaxy Nexus did.
At least HTC have tried to go the right way, and limit customisations to areas that can do with improvement, and not include anything thats alot worse than stock. The TW4 launcher is fugly, the folders implementation is Samsung giving ICS **** folders we haven't seen since Froyo on stock.
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Wise comment thanks.
It's absolutely time to port Sense over. I'm not purchasing another HTC, SGS III has the edge. Perhaps porting Sense 4.0 over before the Official US launch could spark interest and more development.
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I'm not a fanboy, would love to experience sense 4.0 on my GS3
OP, you started threads about this for for the SGS2 without success.
Because of this, I see no reason at all why you don't just buy a HTC device.
If you're so desperate for Sense, just do it.
The SGS2 never got Sense and that's a year old - why do you think the SGS3 - one week old - will get it ported??
If sense is slow on one x, imagine it on a device not optimized ..why do people tend to make **** ****tier than it is?
I agree with the post above..you bought sgs 3 because you thought maybe it had sense? Why do you keep buying phones with touchwiz?
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there are some custom roms. all of them are 3.X versions.
some of them are quite good.
as for ics, i wouldnt hold breath..
guru_shastri said:
there are some custom roms. all of them are 3.X versions.
some of them are quite good.
as for ics, i wouldnt hold breath..
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Agreed. Some good roms available but ICS/JB and beyond is something that we all have been hoping for in vain. If your priority is to have uptodate android versions without any need for the good hardware or the ntrig pen, then you might as well upgrade. However if you like the hardware and use the ntrig function like i do, then you can stick on.
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Agreed. Some good roms available but ICS/JB and beyond is something that we all have been hoping for in vain. If your priority is to have uptodate android versions without any need for the good hardware or the ntrig pen, then you might as well upgrade. However if you like the hardware and use the ntrig function like i do, then you can stick on.
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Sold my HTC Jetstream in June, and bought a Nexus 7. Best decision ever...Sorry!
Good Morning to you all!
Sorry if this has already been posted but I couldn't find much of anything on this topic. Does a "Google Edition" Rom exist for the EVO 4G LTE? I know we have the AOSP and AOKP roms but this is something I've wanted to ask for a while. I love the pure Google experience and I just have to wait about a year until i can upgrade to a new phone like a Nexus.
Thank you again for taking the the time to read this and for all the awesome work all you Developers put in for making this awesome phone even better.
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No. But the AOSP ROMs we have work fine. What's wrong with flashing one of them? They are essentially the same thing, except, well, better .
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No. But the AOSP ROMs we have work fine. What's wrong with flashing one of them? They are essentially the same thing, except, well, better .
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I'm with you on that one. Not sure why anyone with knowledge of rooting (who doesn't mind a voided warranty) would want to buy a GE phone.
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I don't have any problem with any AOSP Rom other than signal and connectivity issues. But its really just curiosity for me and I'm a big fan of Google so the idea of having a Google Editon EVO sounds cool to me.
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Well it won't happen.
And aosp is just as much Google as a GE would be.
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Imagine having a GE ROM that had added functionality and customizations. Then, go download one of our CM/AOKP/DU ROMs. - imagination realized.
Or, put another way, take one of our AOSP ROMs, strip away functionality and customization, and you have a GE ROM.
Is that what you're looking for?
Not trying to sound smart ass, totally sincere.
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Imagine having a GE ROM that had added functionality and customizations. Then, go download one of our CM/AOKP/DU ROMs. - imagination realized.
Or, put another way, take one of our AOSP ROMs, strip away functionality and customization, and you have a GE ROM.
Is that what you're looking for?
Not trying to sound smart ass, totally sincere.
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What do you think would be a good solid AOSP Rom to either behave like a GE Rom or better I've only tried the CM Rom and the Xlyon Rom back and forth and couldn't get the feel I was looking for.
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What do you think would be a good solid AOSP Rom to either behave like a GE Rom or better I've only tried the CM Rom and the Xlyon Rom back and forth and couldn't get the feel I was looking for.
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You could always try Evervolv. That's probably the closest to AOSP, that is, with the least customization.
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No. But the AOSP ROMs we have work fine. What's wrong with flashing one of them? They are essentially the same thing, except, well, better .
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Not true. Not trying to insult any devs in any way, but AOSP roms for anything other than a Nexus are hacked together using core binaries from other devices when necessary. There is never such a thing as a bug free AOSP Rom, except for a Google device and/or Google edition.
The Google edition roms on the other hand, were compiled by HTC for a device that they know in and out. Unfortunately, this is one of those times when "the vendor knows best", simply because of sheer resources and hardware documentation.
It would be possible to port the GE roms if you guys ported the GPE kernel and used that to port the rom, like Zarboz and newtoroot did for the DNA.
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Not true. Not trying to insult any devs in any way, but AOSP roms for anything other than a Nexus are hacked together using core binaries from other devices when necessary. There is never such a thing as a bug free AOSP Rom, except for a Google device and/or Google edition.
The Google edition roms on the other hand, were compiled by HTC for a device that they know in and out. Unfortunately, this is one of those times when "the vendor knows best", simply because of sheer resources and hardware documentation.
It would be possible to port the GE roms if you guys ported the GPE kernel and used that to port the rom, like Zarboz and newtoroot did for the DNA.
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How difficult is this to do?
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How difficult is this to do?
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I can't say.
For the DNA it was extremely simple (but zarboz is a boss so he would've gotten it anyway) since the two devices are almost identical (One and DNA).
But the fact that you guys have a 3.4.x official HTC kernel should help.
hacked together using core binaries from other devices when necessary.
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You would be surprised at what shortcuts OEMs take too.
Just because they have the resources doesn't necessarily mean it's cost effective, or that their software engineers have the time, to redo everything from scratch for each device. It's usually much easier to make it for one and then adapt that copy for use on other devices. I actually found this site thanks to htc's sloppy implementation of hdmi on the original evo. According to them it was impossible to fix until Toastcfh and Netarchy did just that and rewrote their kernel from scratch (iirc).
If you think about it, this site probably wouldn't even exist if OEMs made good software. They often do have access to proprietary drivers and documentation, but most of that is slowly getting open sourced anyway.
That type of reasoning is a fallacy because more often then not OEMs are just too plain cheap to do things properly. They just need to hit their deadlines. So your only real options are to either buy a nexus device, or invest a little time in helping fix any issues that you may find.
Someone please correct me if I'm thinking of the wrong device, but I believe it was the htc TyTN2 where htc didn't even bother to include a fully functional display driver because they didn't want to pay the license for it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359534
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Not true. Not trying to insult any devs in any way, but AOSP roms for anything other than a Nexus are hacked together using core binaries from other devices when necessary. There is never such a thing as a bug free AOSP Rom, except for a Google device and/or Google edition.
The Google edition roms on the other hand, were compiled by HTC for a device that they know in and out. Unfortunately, this is one of those times when "the vendor knows best", simply because of sheer resources and hardware documentation.
It would be possible to port the GE roms if you guys ported the GPE kernel and used that to port the rom, like Zarboz and newtoroot did for the DNA.
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Have you ever used one of the IRC builds of cm10 or cm10.1? They're more stable and are more feature rich than the stock ROM that shipped with this device or any of the updates that they were gracious enough to let sense users download over the air. The 3.0 kernel was seriously stable, but the 3.4 kernel is (nearly as) stable _and_ leaves more RAM for your silly animation effects and whatever. It's based on the reference kernel for the chip set, if I'm not making an arse of myself. So pick a build. I know 1/16 was an awesome cm10, and like I said in another topic I had 191 hours uptime on the 7/23 cm10.1 before I rebooted to rule out the ROM when I was having data issues(it was the network) </rant>
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You would be surprised at what shortcuts OEMs take too.
Just because they have the resources doesn't necessarily mean it's cost effective, or that their software engineers have the time, to redo everything from scratch for each device. It's usually much easier to make it for one and then adapt that copy for use on other devices. I actually found this site thanks to htc's sloppy implementation of hdmi on the original evo. According to them it was impossible to fix until Toastcfh and Netarchy did just that and rewrote their kernel from scratch (iirc).
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Not saying they are perfect and neither am I taking sides. But the fact of the matter is that AOSP is ported using binaries made for other devices and other hacks and so is nearly impossible to make it 100% compared to vanilla nexus roms. Issues are inevitable. And those same exact shortcuts you stated apply to and are no exception with AOSP ports like CM or evervolv. They also commonize (not a word, I know) as much as possible. They group devices like all the d2 and all the jflte, or even by processor like s4_common, etc under one common branch to make it easier for themselves to maintain.
I know I'm not gonna win here because of several things, namely being that I'm taking the "wrong" stance from the majority's point of view. But I just felt adding my 0.02 would help with the OP's original question.
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Someone please correct me if I'm thinking of the wrong device, but I believe it was the htc TyTN2 where htc didn't even bother to include a fully functional display driver because they didn't want to pay the license for it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359534
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Ha! That was my first smartphone! I first signed up on xda (under a different name) when that phone launched (I got it as the att tilt) so that I could run manila and then android on it! That display driver issue was so frustrating. Sorry for ot, but I haven't thought about that in ages.
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Not saying they are perfect and neither am I taking sides. But the fact of the matter is that AOSP is ported using binaries made for other devices and other hacks and so is nearly impossible to make it 100% compared to vanilla nexus roms. Issues are inevitable. And those same exact shortcuts you stated apply to and are no exception with AOSP ports like CM or evervolv. They also commonize (not a word, I know) as much as possible. They group devices like all the d2 and all the jflte, or even by processor like s4_common, etc under one common branch to make it easier for themselves to maintain.
I know I'm not gonna win here because of several things, namely being that I'm taking the "wrong" stance from the majority's point of view. But I just felt adding my 0.02 would help with the OP's original question.
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It's not accurate to say the binaries are made for other devices when the devices are all basically the same. The MSM8960, for example, has it's own binaries, but the same chip is used in a range of devices from the Evo LTE, Blackberry Z10, One X (LTE), One XL, Windows Phone 8X, LG Mach, Moto Droid Razr M, Droid Razr, Razr Max, Atrix HD, Incredible HD, Xperia GX TL SX & V, Galaxy S III... the list goes on
The binaries all of those devices use were developed for the Qualcomm devkit I've linked below.
When you're working with a sense ROM versus an AOSP ROM there are many differences in not only appearance but the framework as well, but once you start getting down to the kernel level the hardware is all basically the same. Where we have the advantage over OEMs is that most companies know it's counterproductive and a waste of money to go after enthusiasts who borrow their binaries from one device to use on something else. If an OEM did that they would be sued in a heartbeat.
https://developer.qualcomm.com/mobile-development/development-devices/snapdragon-s4-msm8960-mdps
edit: probably actually this instead, but same difference: http://shop.intrinsyc.com/products/dragonboard-members-only
To digress back to the OP's original question though, the google edition One is basically just the one with AOSP on it. If you can find a pure AOSP ROM it'll be the exact same thing.
Thanks for the info I'm really thinking of seeing if i can try and make my own ROM and plus I've always wanted to do so hopefully it all goes well. I just don't wanna brick my phone in the process hahaha. Do you guys think trying to build off of the HTC One GE rom and convert it over to the EVO or use an EVO based AOSP ROM? Thanks again for all the help.
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Thanks for the info I'm really thinking of seeing if i can try and make my own ROM and plus I've always wanted to do so hopefully it all goes well. I just don't wanna brick my phone in the process hahaha. Do you guys think trying to build off of the HTC One GE rom and convert it over to the EVO or use an EVO based AOSP ROM? Thanks again for all the help.
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Why don't you just build AOSP? You can use the CM kernel and pull the relevant vendor files from an existing AOSP ROM (or find an up-to-date github with them).
That way you don't have to worry about having the extra customizations, but you'll still have a kernel built from Qualcomm source along with the ROM.
asop aokp cm
I have tried a lot of ROMs and I find these devs do a much better job than stock ROMs yes you have some bugs in some but the always work them out cudos to the devs I'm just glad they still support my device and having gabe up on it
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WARNING: This kernel is UNTESTED / WORK IN PROGRESS at the moment. If YOU choose to flash it, YOU are responsible for any damage on your phone.
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This is our attempt to bring sense 4+/5 to our devices, sources are on GitHub, if you want to contribute your help is MORE THAN WELCOME
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IMPORTANT: Evo 3D is our (Howpathetic's, Želvica's and Snoob25's) only phone, so obviously we don't want to brick it. Maybe we have found a tester, that can risk it since Evo 3D is his secondary phone. EVERYONE who is willing to help us with his device can PM us. If we can't find anyone we could ask users if they want to donate for a test device (used Evo 3Ds are around 30-40€ here)
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We are not responsible for bricking/destroying your phone. Custom ROMS and KERNELS comes with no warranty.
30.6 -> Phone turned off after HTC splash screen (can be turned on afterwards) - DOWNLOAD - LOG
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SOURCES
https://github.com/Howpathetic/Revolution_kernel
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CREDITS
- SebastianFM, for the HUGE work he did to port this kernel to Sensation, his work has been a great reference
- Whoever will help us will be added here
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Testing in progress :
30.6 -> Phone turned off after HTC splash screen
2.7 -> Still not booting.
To do:
Rework whole Media MSM.
Yes!!!! Finally!!! very very good job!! keep it up!:good::fingers-crossed:
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Testing in progress :
30.6 -> Phone turned off after HTC splash screen
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Which ROM did you use and can you turn the phone ON again?
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Which ROM did you use and can you turn the phone ON again?
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a ported rom for personal use when we'll reach at least bootanimation we'll think about a proper rom, a direct port from villec2 or a port from sensation (with proper permissions)
Yep, can be booted again
Just a thumbs up for not letting go of this device as HTC did. That's the spirit of xda I adore. Also if you achieve to make a ROM with 3D support I will scrap or postpone my plans to get a new device this/next year since the basic reason I want to scrap this device is that I have to either suffer from the slowness of those butchered stock versions of ICS+3.6/4 Sense and keep 3D functions or sacrifice 3D for a fast and super responsive 4.1.x+.
Devs here did an amazing job (and almost did the impossible) to improve as much as they could those clunky 3.6/4 Sense + ICS versions out there but they were really trying to do the impossible since all those versions pretty like sucked out of the box, obviously because they were results of either HTC not caring about that device they were making the ROM for (the case of all Sense 3.6 devices), or they had no idea what they were doing and they were feeling like being experimental (all devices with Sense 4 at launch), resulting into terribly optimized ROMS for devices that can do alot better than that. It's not like ICS was a real step forward in performance compared to GB so let alone an ICS rom built at that bad period from HTC (I can't say that though for JB+ based versions of Sense though, these are good and feel as they should).
If you want any testing, I'm here to help without a second thought.
I have two 3d's. One I use daily at work for music and another sits in a drawer at home. "might" be thinking about donating to a dev... They are both Sprint branded devices meaning CDMA... I can also do some testing but this is kernel for gsm only?
waaooo~ It is amazing news!! Maybe after my exam this month, I probably have time to test that.
GOOD WORK!!
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I have two 3d's. One I use daily at work for music and another sits in a drawer at home. "might" be thinking about donating to a dev... They are both Sprint branded devices meaning CDMA... I can also do some testing but this is kernel for gsm only?
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Yo, I've been waiting to jump into Sense porting for a device like this. It would be awesome if you were willing to let your spare one go, as I am super excited about getting a Sense 5 rom booting for the Evo 3D. I'd be really happy to do testing for these guys working on this kernel. I've done prior work in Sense porting for the Nexus One and the Incredible 2.
Thanks
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Yo, I've been waiting to jump into Sense porting for a device like this. It would be awesome if you were willing to let your spare one go, as I am super excited about getting a Sense 5 rom booting for the Evo 3D. I'd be really happy to do testing for these guys working on this kernel. I've done prior work in Sense porting for the Nexus One and the Incredible 2.
Thanks
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I can do testing as well, if no other dev wants it I can send it
Jbb3393 said:
I can do testing as well, if no other dev wants it I can send it
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Please nobody else want this device lol.
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Please nobody else want this device lol.
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Alright,, I believe there is a problem with the screen on it or the power button though. When trying to wake it from sleep only the navigation buttons will light up and a reboot is necessary. But it should be a great testing device.
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Alright,, I believe there is a problem with the screen on it or the power button though. When trying to wake it from sleep only the navigation buttons will light up and a reboot is necessary. But it should be a great testing device.
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Message me on hangouts: [email protected]
For now testing is limited, we determined that kernel doesn't brick anything, now it's all a matter of coding! About that spare evo, that could be helpful, I'd say ask howpathetic through pm if he needs it, and specify that it is a shooter
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Any news?
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Any news?
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second version didn't give any log, howpathetic asked mrg666 but looks like he was stuck at the same point! right now he's reviewing boards, let's see
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second version didn't give any log, howpathetic asked mrg666 but looks like he was stuck at the same point! right now he's reviewing boards, let's see
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good luck with the hard work
Did you make sure to build the boot.img with the proper ramdisk offset? Kernel's default ramdisk offset is 16MB, but the 3.4 kernel is big, so the ramdisk load offset needs to be set to 20MB (0x01400000). If you don't do this then the kernel will keep bootlooping. USB parameters in the ramdisk also need to be updated in order to use ADB for when you're debugging later on.
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EDIT: Wait, is the goal to get a 3.4 kernel working, or a Sense 4+ ROM booting? If you're just trying to get Sense 4+ booting then getting a 3.4 kernel working isn't necessary. All of the Qualcomm drivers that make 3.4 special can be backported to 3.0, which can be used to boot Sense 4+.
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For now testing is limited, we determined that kernel doesn't brick anything, now it's all a matter of coding! About that spare evo, that could be helpful, I'd say ask howpathetic through pm if he needs it, and specify that it is a shooter
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Hello Snoob
Well after I have seen the title of this Post i was like oh yeeees ;D
If more testers are needed I have a spare HTC EVO 3D GSM version (actually my first one that I bought myself when it was released)
I always loved it cause it was heavy, well builded and I felt like having something premium in hand (samsung felt always cheap to me)
Well after all the years I had to change the digitizer but unfortunate it was a chinese copy and the undersite of it peel of and now i have like a nasty circle on the lcd (will fix it cause my friend told me to remove the digitizer and a a scrren portector on the lcd and put the digiter bad so that nasty circle will go away) and the front aluminium bezel felt of (old glue ofc)
So after all that and I hade not the time to fix it I bought another EVO 3D because I like it that much.
But now I have a HTC Sensation ¸that I got as a gift from a friend in top shape and my EVOs are sleeping
Yeah I know long story but the point is that the first one even with all the problems works 100% so I would like to test for yaa kernel and even ROMs cause I always wanted to see sense 5 on EVO 3D happen but dont have the skill my own.
So my testing device is; HTC EVO 3D GSM version (no carrier version)
PM me please If you decide that you need another tester
And Big Kudos To You Guys For Still Suporting The EVO 3D
Just a little note .. I think most of us want to see a Sense 5 in our EVO3D... (and not the 4+, which is very similar to sense 4.1, at least graphically). So if you have the same possibility to make a sense 4+ or a sense 5, maybe you could do a survey.. so if the people say sense 5 rom (or sense 4+) you can focus your energies on a single project
Sorry for bad english and thanks for everything!!!:fingers-crossed:
It seems HTC Company decided to not to update the T6 devices to Lilipop.
http://www.htc.com/us/go/htc-software-updates/
This device is currently on KitKat.
The HTC Eye Experience for this device is currently in the Development stage.
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WTH is the eye experience does that basically mean No lollipop ?
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WTH is the eye experience does that basically mean No lollipop ?
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No it's something with camera software I believe.
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No it's something with camera software I believe.
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Eye experience still is in developing stage but they stopped android 5 I think!
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Eye experience still is in developing stage but they stopped android 5 I think!
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Yea they are I was referring to the eye experience. Really a bummer as I just got my M9 and love the sense version of Lollipop.
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It seems HTC Company decided to not to update the T6 devices to Lilipop.
http://www.htc.com/us/go/htc-software-updates/
This device is currently on KitKat.
The HTC Eye Experience for this device is currently in the Development stage.
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Update between july and september ...
http://www.meltystyle.fr/android-5-...i-le-calendrier-des-mises-a-jour-a371941.html
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Update between july and september ...
http://www.meltystyle.fr/android-5-...i-le-calendrier-des-mises-a-jour-a371941.html
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That report if from 3 months ago... Although I doubted it's cancellation at first it's confirmed.
Heartbreaking
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That report if from 3 months ago... Although I doubted it's cancellation at first it's confirmed.
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For Max owners such as myself it really is disheartening to see this. When scouting around the htc update site try selecting the m7. Guess what, the m7 is in the certification stage of lollipop. Now select the m8. Guess again, it is already on lollipop. The m9 comes with sense 7 and lollipop already on it. It seems to me that devs would at least have some manner in which to at least find a way to port these over to the max. Or at least one might think that.
For those who seem to get their "upgrades" just in time always seem to get the devices that htc (and especially Verizon) tend to leave behind. I myself upgraded from the Thunderbolt to the DNA and from that to the Max. All 3 of these devices were unlucky in the "love" department when it came to keeping them up to date.
NuSense 7 for the DNA by santod040 is quite possibly the best rom keeping that excellent device still alive for those still holding it. His work on the Thunderbolt was recognized for years as tireless and he has put together some great stuff.
But why the history lesson you might ask? It appears that timing has a way of getting the bulk of ownership to transfer to the newer devices while gladly taking away that data package from you. It almost appears that thousands who switched to these devices are intentionally left in the dust for capitalism to take its effects on us.
I will patiently hold on to my max as I patiently await developers like santod040 and flyhalf to find a way to get the screen, resolution, and dpi correct to run their amazing ports of lollipop and sense 7 to my max. I know good and well if I wait on Verizon and HTC to do it I would be turning 58 colors of purple right now from holding my breath!
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Eye experience still is in developing stage but they stopped android 5 I think!
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They didnt Stopped Android 5!
Eye Experience is a new feature and comes directly with Android Lollipop. Ask HTC Customer Service they tell you the same.
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They didnt Stopped Android 5!
Eye Experience is a new feature and comes directly with Android Lollipop. Ask HTC Customer Service they tell you the same.
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You are wrong sir...there is the 4.4.4 Eye Experience rom here From Sundream
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You are wrong sir...there is the 4.4.4 Eye Experience rom here From Sundream
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You my friend never talked to HTC didnt ya ?
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You my friend never talked to HTC didnt ya ?
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You runnin a Custom Rom! No Ofiicial! There is no Official T6 ROM with HTC's EE. HTC gonna implement that for Official Android L ROM which is still in development.
Dont believe ? Talk to 'em... Oh and btw even on the official HTC DE site it says Android L on HTC One Max in Development.
Not getting into a pissing match with u...its been out for awhile it don't matter if it's official and just to let u know the project has been going on for some time I've seen that it has been out on acouple 4.4.2 roms also...its nothing new
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You runnin a Custom Rom! No Ofiicial! There is no Official T6 ROM with HTC's EE. HTC gonna implement that for Official Android L ROM which is still in development.
Dont believe ? Talk to 'em... Oh and btw even on the official HTC DE site it says Android L on HTC One Max in Development.
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Where? I just checked it does in fact say device is on KitKat end of life...
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Where? I just checked it does in fact say device is on KitKat end of life...
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where does it says end of life ?
DEVICE Curently on KITKAT
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where does it says end of life ?
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That is eol... Or it would say in development like it did two weeks ago... The status wouldn't have changed if development didn't stop ... You claimed it still said in development which it did two weeks ago... Add it up brotha... Compare it to other phones in development for lollipop ( actually I think the rollout is done for all who got it)
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That is eol... Or it would say in development like it did two weeks ago... The status wouldn't have changed if development didn't stop ... You claimed it still said in development which it did two weeks ago... Add it up brotha... Compare it to other phones in development for lollipop ( actually I think the rollout is done for all who got it)
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SO my friend !!!! i say it one last time after talking to an htc customer....
The Developmet seems to be complete and going in a few days into cert status!
it come in middle of may wit Android 5.0.2 Sense 6 EE on Europe!
when you now come and tell oh but on the site bla bla this is bull****!
Talk to HTC!!!
i can send a picture of my Conversation with HTCs customer
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Not getting into a pissing match with u...its been out for awhile it don't matter if it's official and just to let u know the project has been going on for some time I've seen that it has been out on acouple 4.4.2 roms also...its nothing new
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this was no offend to you, i just said that Eye Experience Cam Features was introduced with the Selfie Phone Desire Eye. And now after Android L came out HTC decided to implement it to other HTC phones like M7.
The T6 didnt have it yet but becomes it with Android L.
So i dont know about Sprint or Verizon the one showed on the update US site but the EU version will get Androdi L 5.0.2 with Sense 6 Eye Experience on middle/end of May.
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SO my friend !!!! i say it one last time after talking to an htc customer....
The Developmet seems to be complete and going in a few days into cert status!
it come in middle of may wit Android 5.0.2 Sense 6 EE on Europe!
when you now come and tell oh but on the site bla bla this is bull****!
Talk to HTC!!!
i can send a picture of my Conversation with HTCs customer
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this was no offend to you, i just said that Eye Experience Cam Features was introduced with the Selfie Phone Desire Eye. And now after Android L came out HTC decided to implement it to other HTC phones like M7.
The T6 didnt have it yet but becomes it with Android L.
So i dont know about Sprint or Verizon the one showed on the update US site but the EU version will get Androdi L 5.0.2 with Sense 6 Eye Experience on middle/end of May.
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The eye experience is indeed in development lollipop is not. Dude they didn't change it on the site you referenced just for fun. They are two separate things. Just stop... Days later you will realize how your ignorance looks... We have HTC employees on THIS SITE already claiming that Lollipop was dead months ago. I thought they were wrong as LOLLIPOP NOT EYE was still in development. However as it states on site Kitkat is the end of life for HTC One Max Verizon and Sprint and eye is still in development. It was changed about two weeks ago. You have ZERO evidence other than your pointless claims that eye means lollipop which you've already been proven wrong.
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The eye experience is indeed in development lollipop is not. Dude they didn't change it on the site you referenced just for fun. They are two separate things. Just stop... Days later you will realize how your ignorance looks... We have HTC employees on THIS SITE already claiming that Lollipop was dead months ago. I thought they were wrong as LOLLIPOP NOT EYE was still in development. However as it states on site Kitkat is the end of life for HTC One Max Verizon and Sprint and eye is still in development. It was changed about two weeks ago. You have ZERO evidence other than your pointless claims that eye means lollipop which you've already been proven wrong. .
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you gonna cry my friend when my T6 will run Lollipop next month.
Read again above, for Sprint or Verizon i dont know but for EU we get it next month.
& btw when did i said eye means lollipop ? when did i said that sprint or verizon get it ? im talking about the eu/international version and you bro have to accept that this device get it!
you have been proven wrong by an junio member which may seems to take your ego down.
read http://www.htc.com/de/go/htc-software-updates/
and again ask HTC.