I can get this phone for about $60. Only issues with my 3D are the Virgin Mobile firmware junk (I don't think this affected me as bad as others), and the somewhat crappy camera. I don't use the 3D function, but the camera and video recorder still seem lower grade to me. Took a bunch of pics and video of my lil guy's preschool graduation, and was not impressed by the quality from a not so far distance. Besides that this phone still rocks. Just wondering what the thoughts are of people who came from a E3D?
Performance in general is much better (get quadrant scores of 5000 on the LTE), and so is the camera. I was running ICS on my 3D, so general functionality is pretty much the same for me.
I liked getting rid of the extra "3D toggle" button since I never used 3D anyways. the LTE is slightly bigger, but considerably lighter. Call quality/signal seem about the same unfortunately. Maybe once the "HD voice" is available that will change.
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Performance in general is much better (get quadrant scores of 5000 on the LTE), and so is the camera. I was running ICS on my 3D, so general functionality is pretty much the same for me.
I liked getting rid of the extra "3D toggle" button since I never used 3D anyways. the LTE is slightly bigger, but considerably lighter. Call quality/signal seem about the same unfortunately. Maybe once the "HD voice" is available that will change.
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I agree with this
I actually used the 3d feature alot (went as far a ripping my 3d BD-roms to ms SDcard to watch without glasses)
I purchased my Lte for $158 and I am overly pleased with its performance and feel but the Camera is a night and day difference... My 3d had overly muted colors and it was usually full of noise and when your using the camera to take pictures of kids you get blurring alot. I've had mine a little less than a day but the battery is awesome to boot so if you can upgrade do so
Awesome. I figured the regular camera mode on the 3D would be sufficient, but I'd have to agree on the noise and blurring. Thanks for the comparison input guys.
Awesome. I figured the regular camera mode on the 3D would be sufficient, but I'd have to agree on the noise and blurring. Thanks for the comparison input guys.
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I only had the 3D for about a week before my LTE came, but it feels way better than the 3D ever did. It was a great phone, but I am more satisfied with the ELTE in every way. Screen, native software, camera, processing power. I can't think of a single thing that this phone can't beat. That's because it's much more new, but this was also my switch to Sprint, and your HTC selection has always been far superior to Verizon's, so I'm pretty geeked over this phone.
It all comes down to how you feel about your current phone. If you're satisfied, stay where you are, but if you're not, this phone is a great way to fix it.
Tapatalked from my shiny new HTC Evo LTE
The screen alone makes it worth it.
Bonus: camera, kickstand, lightness, and battery life
I couldn't be happier.
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Does anyone know how the 3D effect on the Evo will compare to the 3DS?
I was playing around with the 3DS yesterday was very impressed with some of the effects. Particularly the augmented reality cards. It really makes you realize the potential 3D effects and a camera possess.... it's practically a hologram.
Yeah, the ol' lady is pretty "excited" about the potential behind the 3D camera.
What I am concerned about is the 3D quality. From the previews I saw everyone said it was spot on. However, I've heard mixed reviews in regards to the 3DS screen having a limited 'sweet spot' of view. I have not seen a 3DS yet.
Also, I am pretty sure that the 3D aspect, on the Evo, can only be viewed in landscape, and only to the left landscape at that. Dunno if that is controlled on the software end or if that is a limitation due to the screen technology. Either way, I hope it is closer to viewing a glasses-less 3D TV because those are legit.
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Yeah, the ol' lady is pretty "excited" about the potential behind the 3D camera.
What I am concerned about is the 3D quality. From the previews I saw everyone said it was spot on. However, I've heard mixed reviews in regards to the 3DS screen having a limited 'sweet spot' of view. I have not seen a 3DS yet.
Also, I am pretty sure that the 3D aspect, on the Evo, can only be viewed in landscape, and only to the left landscape at that. Dunno if that is controlled on the software end or if that is a limitation due to the screen technology. Either way, I hope it is closer to viewing a glasses-less 3D TV because those are legit.
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I went into gamestop today and messed with the 3ds a little bit.. It was actually really good. Yes there is sweet spot's notice how it's plural.. Basically right in front of it or looking from the sides.. But it's hardly noticeable for a bad spot.. I found that overall it's really good and if the EVO 3d is that way, were on a great direction!
i think the quality is much better because the resolution is qhd and the screen self is bigger than the nintendo 3ds screen and the price of the phone is higher so i aspect the overall quality is very good.
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i think the quality is much better because the resolution is qhd and the screen self is bigger than the nintendo 3ds screen and the price of the phone is higher so i aspect the overall quality is very good.
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Well price and quality aren't necessarily the same thing.
I'm not a big fan of the 3D thing. I tired 3DS in bestbuy. After 5 mins playing, I got dizzy.
Tried out the 3DS for the first time today. Almost unusable and the screen quality was similar to 3D magazine covers I saw 20 years ago - in other words, pathetically bad.
Maybe it was just my eyes, but no matter the angle I held the 3DS at, I couldn't get the 3D effect to remain constant.
I hope that the EVO 3D is FAR FAR FAR FAR more refined than this POS. I would assume so since it is a much better screen, but we'll see. The 3DS was starting to already give me a headache after about 20 seconds.
P.S., Nintendo, what the heck is with the build quality of this device? It looks like someone put it together from used parts circa 1970 in their garage. Utter fail IMHO.
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Well price and quality aren't necessarily the same thing.
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Case in point: Apple products.
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Tried out the 3DS for the first time today. Almost unusable and the screen quality was similar to 3D magazine covers I saw 20 years ago - in other words, pathetically bad.
Maybe it was just my eyes, but no matter the angle I held the 3DS at, I couldn't get the 3D effect to remain constant.
I hope that the EVO 3D is FAR FAR FAR FAR more refined than this POS. I would assume so since it is a much better screen, but we'll see. The 3DS was starting to already give me a headache after about 20 seconds.
P.S., Nintendo, what the heck is with the build quality of this device? It looks like someone put it together from used parts circa 1970 in their garage. Utter fail IMHO.
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I have a 3ds and have had no problems. No headaches I can lock into 3D no problem. I don't know what your problem was. Or is it someone hates ninty?
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Tried out the 3DS for the first time today. Almost unusable and the screen quality was similar to 3D magazine covers I saw 20 years ago - in other words, pathetically bad.
Maybe it was just my eyes, but no matter the angle I held the 3DS at, I couldn't get the 3D effect to remain constant.
I hope that the EVO 3D is FAR FAR FAR FAR more refined than this POS. I would assume so since it is a much better screen, but we'll see. The 3DS was starting to already give me a headache after about 20 seconds.
P.S., Nintendo, what the heck is with the build quality of this device? It looks like someone put it together from used parts circa 1970 in their garage. Utter fail IMHO.
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Agreed. Looks horrible.. Did you notice how long it took to up the res on the screens? And its still horrible... I just saw a game on a dsi.. and the graphics were so pix lated it was ridiculous.
I hope they change the evo3d to a slider like the 3ds, that helps with the headaches ppl get change the depth a little and its easier to focus, from what I've seen the evos just gonna be a switch, a slider would be much better
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I hope they change the evo3d to a slider like the 3ds, that helps with the headaches ppl get change the depth a little and its easier to focus, from what I've seen the evos just gonna be a switch, a slider would be much better
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From what i understand the switch on the side of the evo 3d will be for switching the camera from 2d to 3d only, and didn't have anything to do with the screen.(if some where else say other wise please post link, would love to see that)
I hope they have some sort slider (maybe in the setting some where) that does work like the slider on 3ds. I saw the 3ds at best buy and i was impressed, but different strokes for different folks.
http://www.androidcentral.com/camera-comparison-htc-evo-3d-vs-evo-4g
Oh man! Looks like a step backwards for the camera!
I'm still getting it!!!!!!!!
3vo is def sharper, just change the color settings to get more vivid pics. I think its an upgrade
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As smartphone cams go in 2011? Evo 3D Camera: fail.....on an otherwise flagship device for HTC.
If HTC was to upgrade their camera....this would seem to be the release to do it (it by name draws attention to its CAMERA for god's sake). Dissapointing.
You know I've seen some 3vo pics that look god awful, and some that look pretty decent... most of the guys give awful reviews (meaning they don't grasp what a review should be) what makes you think they know how to work hardware (tweak settings..etc) to make a picture look good. lol
it looks fine you can adjust settings for better color.
better than what i thought it was gonna be.
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it looks fine you can adjust settings for better color.
better than what i thought it was gonna be.
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Yep, you're right. Phil just commented saying he didn't optimize the camera before taking the pictures. Just point and Shoot.
http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc-evo-3d/95409-camera-comparison-up.html#post1013363
My girl has an iPhone, and when we're out and take pics, I have her use her phone because the evo camera sucks. She's always throwing it in my face. I just want to be able to tell her to shove her iPhone up her ass. Also, why does the thunderbolt seem to have such a good camera (and reviews) but the 3ds is just.....eh?? Corner cutting? Cheaper hardware? Is Sprint trying to save coin?
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Quality pictures require a quality camera... that's why I have my Canon 40D, 5D and 1Ds.
I also have cameras. Thats mot related to the fact that HTC uses subquality cameras on these high end devices. As a converged device camera I use the pics in conjunction immediately with other apps. My other cameras can't do that.
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Quality pictures require a quality camera... that's why I have my Canon 40D, 5D and 1Ds.
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There wasn't one of those photos where I thought the 4g did better. Clarity was better on the 3vo across the board. Look at the frogs or the last one with the green/pink leaves. Look at where the pink meets the green.
Truthfully I think the 4g could do better. Out of focus. But then again, so is my evo 4g camera
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Oh man! Looks like a step backwards for the camera!
I'm still getting it!!!!!!!!
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lol love that despite the letdowns people are still getting it, but whatever IM STILL GETTING IT!!
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There wasn't one of those photos where I thought the 4g did better. Clarity was better on the 3vo across the board. Look at the frogs or the last one with the green/pink leaves. Look at where the pink meets the green.
Truthfully I think the 4g could do better. Out of focus. But then again, so is my evo 4g camera
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yeah at 1st glance 4G seems better but if you really look clarity is better (as stated above) on 3vo...Frogs (more detail) flowers (same thing) looks like there needs to be some color correction (in processing??) also I just saw the other link in a prev thread and I think there was something in the settings that may somewhat address this???
IANAPhotog...btw
White balance: Lets you change the white balance
to enable the camera to capture colors more
accurately by adjusting to your current lighting
environment.
Auto focus: Enables or disables centered
autofocus. Autofocus is enabled by default.
ISO (photo mode only): Lets you choose an ISO
level or set it back to Auto. Higher ISO numbers
are better for taking pictures in low light
conditions.
would manipulation of these settings make the pics a bit better?
*tho I understand why the test was done with no adjustments via both cams.
Guys check out the new 'Lightbox Photo' app..it takes pics way faster than Vignette etc and has an immediate "fixit" option which makes great fast color/contrast corrections...nice resulting picture.
That's disappointing the 3VO camera is still that far behind iPhone. They should have invested the R&D into a practical camera instead of the 3D stuff. Will probably still end up getting it because it's the next best thing from EVO.
Right now, I carry my little Canon powershot because it takes way better pictures than my ancient 2mp Mogul.
The Evo 3D will obviously take better pictures but I don't think it's as good as my Canon. My plan is for simple pictures I'll carry just the Evo 3d and if I want really nice pictures, then I'll pull the Canon out.
My overall impression of the phone is a good one. I had a 3GS iPhone a while ago and had since been looking for a phone that could operate as smoothly. I can honesly say that this phone is the closest I've ever been to that level of smoothness. Lag is almost non existent. The only place I ever see lag is in the browser. I attribute the lag to flash. I honestly dislike having flash on a phone because I think performance suffers too much.
The 3D is way cooler than I thought it was going to be. It really took me these couple of days for my eyes to adjust to the 3D and to quickly find the most suitable viewing angle and distance.
My major gripe with the phone, which has be contemplating the Photon or SGSII, is the 2D camera performance. The camera interface is extremely slow, and I've noticed that it has been like this on many android devices. I find it annoying that a decent camera app hasn't been produced yet. Anyone else experience this?
The 3D cameras are also sluggish but, for new tech I guess its acceptable. It's almost impossible to take a 3D picture of my son because of his erratic movements. It's a little difficult to capture even a 2D picture at times.
Low light performance is bad, resulting in grainy photos. By low light, I don't mean moonlight. Even in normal house lighting I find it difficult to take a great shot. The flash is completely overbearing. It would be nice to have some control over its brightness.
This phone is beautiful! It is very solid and has great weight to it. I love how it feels in my hand. For me, a phone can never be too heavy. It gives it a higher quality feel to me. After watching videos of the Photon and SGSII, I am not even remotely convinced that either phone will match the EVO in build quality. They both look very plasticky to me.
Battery life has been fantastic for me! I am impressed. I will not require a second battery.
The Otterbox is amazing. I love how rugged it looks and how protected it is. I love being able to cover all ports. When I had my iPhone lint and dirt would constantly clog my headphones jack, and dust would work its way under the screen. If I had purchased an Otterbox, there wouldn't have been an issue. I highly recommend it. Got mine at BBY, which surprised me because i didn't think they'd have it.
Reception has been perfect, unlike the NS4G I exchanged. Call quality is great and, I am not experiencing tinny or otherwise distorted sound. The speaker is acceptable.
The camera is my only gripe. Hopefully a future update can improve camera performance, or perhaps a custom ROM can help eventually? The 3D is great, the OS is super smooth, especially after installing Launcherpro. I just hope HTC comes through on their bootloader promises soon. I want to see this baby OC'd.
Overall, I think this phone has been underrated by the blogging and tech communities. Engadget gave it a 7/10. I would give it an 8 to 8.5 out of 10. In the future this 3D may prove itself even more with YouTube going 3D and hopefully Netflix following suit...
Sprint HTC EVO 3D vs Verizon Motorola Droid RAZR Maxx
My Opinion
After 8 months with my EVO 3D I have decided to switch to a different network. Verizon, despite the bump in cost was the one I chose because they do have one of the best networks (at least in my area) and Sprint has the worst network (at least for me). So, before turning in my Sprint account I stopped by a Verizon store and picked up the RAZR Maxx, based mostly on the battery life and praise from a friend who owns a Droid RAZR. So I have both phones. Lets do a side by side! If I can get a third device of some kinds for pictures I will add them as well. Pardon my clumsiness if this thread is horribly written, I am a coder not a documentarian.
Now don’t get me wrong, I love my EVO 3D and if I could take it with me I would. Sadly I can’t so I figure I have both phones in front of me let’s do a comparison review. This review will not include data transfer rates as Sprint only has 3G in my area and Verizon’s 4G LTE network blankets the area. I also will try to not use many specific specs for the comparison as anyone can go look up the size of the RAZR and the size of the 3D, I will focus more on the feel.
Size and Screen
EVO 3D
The general shape and size of the EVO 3D is awesome. It fits well in the palm of the hand and has a decent weight. The screen is a 4.3” qHD and looks gorgeous to me. It is bright and the colors pop but when you put it next to the Maxx they don’t pop as much and are a bit faded. The 3D feature is a neat novelty. I enjoy watching 3D movies on the phone and playing the 3D games is interesting, but buying all these things that are only 3D makes this mostly a novelty. The touchscreen is responsive.
RAZR Maxx
The RAZR is a much flatter device but makes up for this in length and width. It is a bit awkward to hold while talking, but not so much as to be uncomfortable. I tend to use Bluetooth headsets exclusively. It feels a tough lighter than the EVO 3D which is nice if you do tend to hold your phone. This one also has a 4.3” screen but it is Super AMOLED. It is a bit brighter than the qHD on the EVO 3D but overall is too close for my own naked eyes. The touchscreen is responsive.
Winner: Both
Camera
EVO 3D
The EVO 3D sports a pair of 5mp cameras on the back for 3D capture. It does this well, but warning if you are not used to looking at a 3D picture taken with this device then your eyes might go into shock. Once you are used to it then it is not so bad. The front camera is ok as are most. 2D pictures are crisp and the colors are decent. The shutter time is a bit slow for my tastes.
RAZR Maxx
The RAZR sports a single 8mp camera on the back. The quality of the pictures is very nice. Colors are brighter than the EVO 3D and it maintains the crispness of the photo. What really wowed me with the camera are both the night time picture taking and the shutter speed. At night with the flash pictures maintain crispness unlike every other phone camera I have used. The shutter speed is amazing as well. It is not quite as fast as the iPhone but it is dang close. Another nice bonus is Image Stabilization.
Winner: Motorola Droid RAZR Maxx
Internal Hardware and Ports
EVO 3D
The EVO has a Micro USB port for charging and video output with an adapter. Its Bluetooth works as expected with decent range to my Plantronics Voyager Pro. It is version 3 + HS providing 24 Mbit/s throughput. I haven’t tried that feature so I am not sure how accurate that spec is. The processor is a dual core 1.2 Ghz Snapdragon. It performs well and I will demonstrate stock ROM performance with benchmarks below. The battery is a bit lack luster on this phone. I feel I have to keep a charger on me at all times and keep it plugged up in the car all the time to keep charge.
RAZR Maxx
The RAZR also has a Micro USB, but includes a dedicated Micro HDMI port (yay) for use with video output and webtop features. I haven’t tried the webtop feature but it looks awesome and I am purchasing the HD dock soon to give it a spin. It sports Bluetooth 4.0 and functions as well as the EVO’s Bluetooth. The RAZR contains a TI OMAP 1.2 Ghz processor, benchmarks below. Battery… amazing. I have been abusing my phone for over 4 hours this morning and I am still sporting 80%. Imagine when it gets optimized with some crazy awesome ROM.
Winner: Motorola Droid RAZR Maxx
OS
EVO 3D
The EVO is running Android 2.3.4 with HTC Sense 3.0. For this I am going to talk about Sense a little. I love Sense, I find it to be awesome in every way except space on the phone. I may be a bit biased towards HTC (view my sig) but I like the stuff they put on and the Sprint stuff is excessive but not as bad as Verizon.
RAZR Maxx
The RAZR is running Android 2.3.6 with the Motorola interface (if it is still called Blur). There is a lot of bloatware on the phone from Motorola and Verizon. It is still snappy and responsive but having a dozen apps you do not need but cannot remove is annoying.
Winner: HTC EVO 3D
Benchmarks
I tried to get screen shots but Eclipse is being a pain and I am at work so I don’t have time to troubleshoot it. But here are the actual results. Note on Quadrant that I started the tests at the same time and the EVO was done by the time the RAZR made it through the first 5 CPU tests. As you can see the EVO slammed the RAZR on the CPU test in Quadrant.
Smartbench 2012
EVO 3D..................1638
RAZR Maxx..............2746
Quadrant Standard Edition
......................................EVO 3D...............RAZR Maxx
Overall:............................2590....................2071
CPU:................................4731....................1904
Memory:...........................2269....................2646
I/O:.................................3326....................3196
2D:...................................517......................505
3D:..................................2109....................2103
Antutu Benchmark
......................................EVO 3D...............RAZR Maxx
RAM:................................1059....................841
CPU Integer:......................1677...................1696
CPU float-point:..................717....................1346
2D Graphics:.......................290.....................301
3D Graphics:......................1223...................1241
Database IO:......................240.....................475
Total Score:......................5495...................6185
Quadrant and Antutu are almost mirrors of themselves. Not sure which one is more accurate. All in all my opinion of the phones is similar. The both have ups and downs. Ones is mostly network related and some minor hardware deficiences and the other is software bloated. So hopefully this will help someone decide ( I have seen the questions more than once )
nice review but you didn't compare incoming & outgoing voice quality? they are phones after all!
iolinux333 said:
nice review but you didn't compare incoming & outgoing voice quality? they are phones after all!
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It's Motorola... The service always have been great
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Oh Nice ! Personnally, they are both very good, the power for power is useless...
The Design of Razr is so.....beautiful ! But Evo is better for dev and custom rom...
Yeah, so, I have an upgrade in a 3 weeks, and I really want to get rid of this godforsaken DX2. So, non-biased in any sense, which is the best phone of the two, overall. I'm 15, and I live on my phone. I really want whichever one is best for battery, music, and display
btw- I know the s3 has a bigger battery, but from what I've heard, it doesn't matter much, since the display is so huge
Thanks guys!
I am also on a DX2 and waiting to upgrade soon. It has some good roms but I really want 4g now. Anyway if your just looking to compare screen, battery, and music between the DINC 4g and SGS3 then both are going to excel. DINC 4g has beats audio, which is a plus and really does enhance the music, but also just adds some DPS (digital sound processing) perks. My brother has a rezound too and compared with my DX2, which has more than acceptable sound quality, the rezound is better but not by leaps and bounds. I would suspect, but only speculating that the SGS3 will also have very good sound, even compared to the beats audio. Displays are both great, but remember SGS3 is larger at 4.8 in at 1280x720 and the DINC 4g display is smaller at 4 in with 960x540. Pixel density SGS3 at 306 ppi and DINC 4g 275 ppi. SO really both screens are going to look great one super amoled and the other super LCD. Battery life also comparable, especially with more efficient LTE radios build onto the SOC, and like you said battery capacity to screen size ratio is similar.
Im still debating both. Might want to consider if roms and rooting are your cup o tea. Then youll want to consider that both will see a lot of dev support. The SGS3 because it is a beast of a phone, but does have a locked bootloader and DINC 4g because of its legacy and unlockable bootloader. So after all that really down to a matter aesthetics probably.
I have both in my hands now testing for my company. I've pretty much ignored the HTC and now just getting to it as I haven't been able to put the GS3 down. I'll be moving to the GS3 from my Razr Maxx, and I love that phone.
The Incredible LTE has the advantage of the superior camera (not as good as the One series, but better than the GS3 camera esp, in low light). Also sometimes the Incredible LTE feels more comfortable to hold because of the size, but the smaller screen is bothering me since I'm used to the bigger phones now. Although the phone is smaller, it's noticeably thicker than the GS3, so I would handle both in the store before you made your decision to see if you're alright with it. Both phones feel "plasticky" but still solid and not cheap feeling.
The Incredible LTE has Beats integration, but DOES NOT come up with the Beats headphones like the Rezound did. I think there are some DSP apps that can make any ICS phone sound as good if not better than the Beats integration anyway. Not sure if the Incredible LTE comes with apt-X support which is actually more important to me than Beats integration (apt-X does come on the GS3 so if you get bluetooth headphones/speakers/receiver w/ apt-X tech then it will sound way better)
I HATE that they did away with the menu button and went with a recent button instead on the HTC. I NEVER use the recent button as I have other apps I prefer to get to that with. I use Menu a lot more and the fact that it's missing is really bothering me (although I'll be looking to remap the recent to menu function next). Lots of apps haven't gone to the new way google wants apps to use menu so you get this ugly bar at the bottom of the screen with just the menu button by itself. Not sure if that remap hack i thought i saw will fix this.