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I went into a Carphone Warehouse in the UK today and also a Vodafone shop to have a play with the new SIII and I am absolutely deflated to find that it exhibits quite extreme "lag" or "elastic" scrolling in the menus and in general in the UI. You can see exactly the effect I'm talking about here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DuMZRkBvlw and on the SIII it's actually even worse. It was actually the same on the SII with most of the ICS roms so it seems that this is for some bizarre reason by design and not a bug of some sort?
Why on Earth would Samsung actually CHOOSE to implement this kind of "elastic" delay to finger scrolling? I cannot think of a good reason for them to set it up that way? It's definitely NOT an ICS issue because the HTC One X doesn't have this problem at all - so someone somewhere at Samsung has actually decided to put this in!!!???
Why have NONE of the SIII reviews I've read mentioned this infuriating effect during scrolling? I'm not all that sensitive - I have to emphasise that the effect on the SII and now the SIII is actually quite extreme. The SIII is now even worse than the SII!
Can this be fixed by devs in some way? I think the video I linked to above is essential to understand what I mean. It's NOT slowness because the phone is underpowered or not optimised. It seems to be a crazy design descision on the part of Samsung? I didn't see any fixes to it on the SII threads and the custom ROMS for the SII didn't address the problem either. I can't be the only one to notice this?
Any feedback would be very interesting.... I simply love the SIII but it's an absolute deal-breaker if the "elastic" effect is delayed to such an extreme... It drives me mad!
Oh I just asked if the SIII was like this in the vs one x thread. It was one of my biggest quirks with the SII, but you could actually change the sensitivity if rooted. It improved vastly, but never as good as on the one x. Samsung implemented a high pixel delay(if that's the right wording) for some reason.
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Don't notice it, touchscreen reacts before I put my finger on it :s it's really fast
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omitting the lag, elastic scrolling is a feature of ics updates, its much better than the normal scrolling.
if elastic scrolling is present in sgs3 all you have to do is get practiced to it.
i have it on my galaxy s2 with ICS, both on samsung roms and AOSP roms. gingerbread was much better scrolling.
i really was hoping it was fixed in the s3, but now it seems it isnt
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i am thinking all that nature feeling bs is just to cover it up?
Is that really what your complaining about? lmao
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norpan111 said:
Don't notice it, touchscreen reacts before I put my finger on it :s it's really fast
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Have you tried a touch screen test app? If you move slowly, how long before the screen reacts? On the SII It's quite a long distance, so playing drawing games and such is impossible.
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MaBlo said:
Have you tried a touch screen test app? If you move slowly, how long before the screen reacts? On the SII It's quite a long distance, so playing drawing games and such is impossible.
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There is an app for that on play, you have to donate for the settings to stick after you lock and unlock the device..it's perfect and touchscreen test reacts on movements instant
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Touchscreen tune I believe
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I'm facing the same problem with home screen lags as well. After considering, I switch back to EX go launcher with ICS themes; and everything works perfectly as it should - No home button lags, scrollable screen with Original SIII lock screen.
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There is an app for that on play, you have to donate for the settings to stick after you lock and unlock the device..it's perfect and touchscreen test reacts on movements instant
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Yeah I know that, I actually bought it for the SII. Paid 5$. The reason I'm wondering is because my girlfriend wants one, and she won't root it.
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As you might know that all touch screens have some kind of touch lag which is basically touch screen panel recognizing touch and pushing that info back. HTC phones like sensation evo 3d have terrible touch lag around 100ms. I was wondering how is the touch response on S3. If you go into development settings and enable touch pointer or touch input or something like that to show touches on the screen, you can see the lag when moving across home screens or just swiping left to right. I just want to know how bad or good is the touch panel response. Does the touch pointer keep up with your finger? Iphones have the most impressive touch response. If you used an iphone, how comparable are the touch responses?
Thanks in advance!!
The S3 isn't quite as responsive in terms of touch lag as an iPhone but it's certainly no slouch in that department either. At the end of the day your best bet is to go in store and have a play with one and decide for yourself if it might bother you.
cool thanks for your input
A lot of the touch input lag is not caused by the panel but the phone sleeping.
The s3 has a hardware-wise excellent touchscreen, using it will get even better with Jellybean's project butter.
Note that a lot of the Ui latency is by design and caused by the animations.
On real tests such as described by the op, S3 is excellent.
But as the parent already said - try one =)
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The S3 and the Note II both have atrocious touchscreen latency. They're even worse than the S2. The HOX has the lowest latency I've seen so far.
Mine is extremely sensitive..really nice and I don't notice any latency issues ..I have iphone 5 and s2 and gnex to compare to.
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norpan111 said:
Mine is extremely sensitive..really nice and I don't notice any latency issues ..I have iphone 5 and s2 and gnex to compare to.
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You don't know what you're supposed to be looking for.
KurianOfBorg said:
You don't know what you're supposed to be looking for.
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Please tell me you're joking, s2 had delays I noticed. I don't have this issue in my s3. I compare my phone with iphone 5, s2 and gnex ( also suffers from it). You don't know what you're reading
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iPhone renders the UI with realtime priority. Whenever you touch the screen - everything else stops, e.g. the browser page stops loading. That's why it's so smooth. Android doesn't use this approach and tries to do everything at the same time
Oh and my wife's iphone 4 with ios 6 is the worst, feels like the phone is struggling against me
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Oh and my wife's iphone 4 with ios 6 is the worst, feels like the phone is struggling against me
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Well my 3gs also struggles on ios5.. (facepalm) It is old phone but it was responsive when u first got it from the store..
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Glebun said:
iPhone renders the UI with realtime priority. Whenever you touch the screen - everything else stops, e.g. the browser page stops loading. That's why it's so smooth. Android doesn't use this approach and tries to do everything at the same time
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Wrong. Those are optimisations painstakingly implemented by the developers of each app. Android developers rarely care since they have bigger problems such as the app not even working on half the users phone models.
CHEVYbarracuda1 said:
Well my 3gs also struggles on ios5.. (facepalm) It is old phone but it was responsive when u first got it from the store..
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You facepalmed me? He said iphone , not iphone 5 specific
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KurianOfBorg said:
Wrong. Those are optimisations painstakingly implemented by the developers of each app. Android developers rarely care since they have bigger problems such as the app not even working on half the users phone models.
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I've read it somewhere that it's implemented in the OS, I might be wrong
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I've read it somewhere that it's implemented in the OS, I might be wrong
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As a multi-platform developer I can tell you nothing happens automatically. Your app will stutter and freeze even on iOS if you don't optimize for receiving touch input at any time. Fragmentation is such a big problem on Android that even my simple app which is basically a list of items with a photo on the left crashes on all HTC devices but works fine on others.
The touchscreen input latency is a hardware + Android thing and there is nothing your app can do about it.
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Well my 3gs also struggles on ios5.. (facepalm) It is old phone but it was responsive when u first got it from the store..<br />
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You facepalmed me? He said iphone , not iphone 5 specific<br />
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Umm bassically iphone 4 and s3 r the phones that dont belong into the same categorry.. Iphone 4 is mid-low phone today while s3 is high-end so yea u shud keep that in mind
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Is the problem with touch screen delay/responsiveness (I am not talking about touch screen sensitivity) a hardware or a software issue?
Apparently the iphone 5 is around 55 milliseconds and the iPhone 4 around 87 millisec
Hi, I'm probably going to buy a galaxy s2 but I want to know some things about the telephone before..
1)how is the battery life of the s2? whit my nexus s i can get 4 hours of screen on, is the s2 better?
2)how do you update the firmware version? Does the s2 receive the OTA like the Nexus telephones?
3) will it be updated to the latest android version jelly Bean?
And the last thing.. How is it compared to a galaxy nexus?
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1:yes2:yes 3:maybe
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How many hours of screen on can u get with the s2?
And has it got any known bug/defect (an example is the breakable power button of the nexus s)?
The only thing that doesn't convince me of this smartphone is the modding.. I think that it could be a little bit difficult coming from a pure Google device..
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1) yes
2) that depends on your carrier but yes
3) samsung said the tests of JB on S2 were succesful....
i think S2 is better because it has an 8mp camera instead of 5mp and the biggest advantage in my opinion is that it has a slot for mini sd card
I want to a buy a new phone.
I have 2 ideas: (I like medium screens size)
1.Galaxy S2 ''Old but Gold''
2.Wait until S4 Mini it's released and gets cheaper like S3 Mini it's now after 1 year.
I want to know which one is better at performance/battery too
PS: Does S4 Mini have AirView ??
Better option would be sgs3 its prices have gone down drastically. Or n4. Or s2. Anything Mini is well mini.
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You should go for s4 mini.It has greater performance than s2.I don't know about battery life.
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I'm also considering update to s3, but I have heard, that 1gb of ram is too less for sammy tw and 720p screen. Is it true?
Feel bad to say:
I 've got my hands on the S3 and it's too big ....
Any similar options HTC,SONY ?? (phones with maximum screen size of 4,3'')
How is S2's MALI 400 compared to adreno 305 ?
AndyTimE said:
Feel bad to say:
I 've got my hands on the S3 and it's too big ....
Any similar options HTC,SONY ?? (phones with maximum screen size of 4,3'')
How is S2's MALI 400 compared to adreno 305 ?
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Xperia L has 4,3"
I think mali 400 is best among all other gpu's.
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Xperia L has 4,3"
I think mali 400 is best among all other gpu's.
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Then how S4 mini is better than S2 ?
Xperia L is bigger than S2 and slower.
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Then how S4 mini is better than S2 ?
Xperia L is bigger than S2 and slower.
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S4 has 1.7 GHz dual core processor which is fast as compared to s2 which has 1.2 GHz dual core.
Xperia L has same screen size as s2.May be it is bigger than s2 but you asked for screen size so i told you.
Watch video on youtube about the speed of xperia L.I don't think it is much slower than s2.
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S4 has 1.7 GHz dual core processor which is fast as compared to s2 which has 1.2 GHz dual core.
Xperia L has same screen size as s2.May be it is bigger than s2 but you asked for screen size so i told you.
Watch video on youtube about the speed of xperia L.I don't think it is much slower than s2.
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Between S4 Mini and S2 with which one should I go for gaming ??
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Between S4 Mini and S2 with which one should I go for gaming ??
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I 'm using s2 and gaming is good.No lags and games run smoothly.I don't know about s4 mini but I'm sure it will run games without any lags.
I've decided top but a new smartphone but I can decide between Samsung galaxy s3 or the Google nexus 4 ... Please help new decide
Thanks
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Owned a nexus 4. It is honestly the best choice. It has better specifications and better dev support. But isf you are a heavy user and you play games and diqnliad tons of music, go for tye s3 because ofbthe removable battery with extended battery capablities and the mirco sd slot
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I'd allways take a google phone first, but (IMO) the Nexus4 sucks, so I would choose the s3
Also, if you like the pure android interface, you can allways flash the CM 10.1
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i would defently go for S3
nexus 4 is boring it is so bareboned with software
and also the on screen buttons take the space away
Samsung Galaxy S3 is amazing phone, you can always flash a custom ROM which will make your phone to work as fast as Nexus 4!
And yes, Touchwiz ROM is quite slow, for example to open contacts it's takes about 4-5 seconds, but if you will flash a custom ROM this problem will gone!
Anyone else?
Thanks for the replies guys
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the on screen buttons take the space away
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Not really. To have off screen buttons they'd have to have made the screen smaller. If the s3 went for on screen buttons, the screen could have been longer but it would have been as useless as not being an extended screen. Buttons on screen or off screen leave the same amount of screen left over only the latter is easier
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Not really. To have off screen buttons they'd have to have made the screen smaller. If the s3 went for on screen buttons, the screen could have been longer but it would have been as useless as not being an extended screen. Buttons on screen or off screen leave the same amount of screen left over only the latter is easier
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yeah but nexus 4 left a lot of space down there so the screen feels smaller than s3's
True but we dont know what's under there
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So what's your decision guys ? S3 or nexus 4?
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I wouldn't chose the n4 over the s3. I like things many phones dont offer such as sdcard slot and removable battery. On paper the n4 is better but its less practical for me and dull looking. I wouldn't ever buy a 1 year old phone either....
So if I was in the market today id probably go insane and put up with what I had and see what next year brings
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Get an s4
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Thanks for the replies guys hey rootSU ... The nexus isnt 1 year old
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Thanks for the replies guys hey rootSU ... The nexus isnt 1 year old
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The S3 is....
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Oh sorry didn't realise it...
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about S3 and N4, IMHO the main different is ram.. S3 1gb (800mb) Vs N4 2Gb (1,3gb CMIIW).
whether the difference in the amount of ram has a big influence on System android? especially for Jelly Bean OS 4.1.x - 4.2.x - 4.3.
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about S3 and N4, IMHO the main different is ram.. S3 1gb (800mb) Vs N4 2Gb (1,3gb CMIIW).
whether the difference in the amount of ram has a big influence on System android, especially for Jelly Bean OS 4.1.x - 4.2.x - 4.3.
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Thanks for the reply Buddy maybe I'll roll with the nexus 4 after all
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