One of the reasons I got a 10.1 was to hopefully watch movies/TV on it rather than my desktop. The particular site I go to offers streaming videos via Putlocker files, which obviously works great on my desktop but is rather problematic on the Tab. When I switch over to "desktop" website viewing in the default browser or Dolphin HD and navigate to a show I want to watch and start streaming the video, it functions like on my computer. If I pause to let the buffer build up, go full screen and back to normal viewing, or pause for a while during the show, the tab either plays for about 6 minutes and then stops the video or shows the video buffer fully loaded (even though it wasn't before any of the mentioned actions) and then stops playing. The only thing that seems to work is watching the stream start to finish with no or very short pauses.
I don't know how to stop this from happening. Maybe I am misunderstanding something basic here and correct me if I'm wrong in my logic - Putlocker is actually streaming the video, which is loaded into the RAM and not using any hard drive space, and, since almost half of the memory is used for the OS/GUI, it can only display about 6 minutes of video because of the RAM limitation and anything that goes over that limitation (e.g. building up the buffer) causes the video to "crash". If I'm correct, I doubt I have any options to solve this problem since adding RAM isn't viable. Hopefully, I'm wrong here or there's a work-around to fix this handicap. The odd thing that makes me think I'm wrong is that the amount of RAM my desktop uses for Chrome to play Putlocker files is low enough that the Tab shouldn't have any problems fully buffering the stream. Most of the shows are 30 minutes and only are around 130 Mb if downloaded as an AVI file. Even now as I type this, I have a full movie loaded up and Chrome is only using around 230 Mb of RAM between that video and the two other tabs I have open. Any suggestions or help? (I've asked this @ another forum and the response I got was to use Splashtop to transfer a live stream from my computer to the tab - a helpful suggestion, but I want the Tab to do all the work and have the desktop off.)
So between Google Music and Pandora, which uses more data (if at all)?
If I listen to the full length of "Song A" in Gmusic and then the same song in Pandora, will one program use more data to play said song?
Been wondering about that for a couple weeks.
IIRC Pandora does some type of 'read ahead' where it will cache or buffer the music you are listening to.. kinda like satellite radio does in case you go under a bridge or something..
I streamed Pandora for a week once in the past and the data usage wasn't what I imagined it would be.. (this was some time ago too)..
Sorry for lack of details, but this is all I have..
You could grab some type of data usage counter and allow your phone to sit idle for 20 minutes to get a base to compare to.. play 1 song w/ google music, then the same song w/ pandora and compare the usage ?
Just stabbing at ideas..
Yea I thought about doing that.. but I would want to get a data counter that will count small bits of data. Would want to find something to measure kilobytes or maybe even down to bytes.
Anyone know of an app that will count data in that small of increments?
stupidchicken03 said:
Yea I thought about doing that.. but I would want to get a data counter that will count small bits of data. Would want to find something to measure kilobytes or maybe even down to bytes.
Anyone know of an app that will count data in that small of increments?
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Either that or up your sample size so that the smaller denominators become insignificant. Try a playlist of 10 songs or something on both players.
Just get the Offline music importer app. Then you can save all your music or only the songs you want to your device and not have to stream at all saving alot of data. You can also use any music player apply to listen to your music.
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Adauth said:
Just get the Offline music importer app. Then you can save all your music or only the songs you want to your device and not have to stream at all saving alot of data. You can also use any music player apply to listen to your music.
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I cache my favorite radio stations on Slacker Radio to my SD card while on wifi to save data usage..
Which uses more depends on the bitrate they stream it at. Can't say for sure because I've never really looked into it but my guess is Google Music would be streamed at a higher bitrate than Pandora. Its just a guess though.
Adauth said:
Just get the Offline music importer app. Then you can save all your music or only the songs you want to your device and not have to stream at all saving alot of data. You can also use any music player apply to listen to your music.
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im not worried at all about data usage.. im grandfather in for the unlim
Im just curious, thats all
I would assume Pandora uses less bandwidth because every song is optimized for streaming, especially if you choose the 'low quality' selection under Pandoras settings.
Your music library collection may have much larger song files with higher bitrates that have been poorly compressed or maybe with very high quality making it use more bandwidth.
It really depends on your library. Both google music and Pandora have buffers, so that shouldn't factor in against Pandora.
Just a heads up guys that Plex is in the market place now for download allowing streaming of all your movies, music and pictures from your home PC. Best part is it will convert recordings from Windows Media Centre on the fly, so for me during my train rides home I can now watch TV. Awesome.
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Just a heads up guys that Plex is in the market place now for download allowing streaming of all your movies, music and pictures from your home PC. Best part is it will convert recordings from Windows Media Centre on the fly, so for me during my train rides home I can now watch TV. Awesome.
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Cheers bub, was waiting on this.
Works flawlessly, even better than my iphone version. No skips and stutters (that might have something to do with the Lumia gets WAY better reception that the iphone). I have only one complaint and that is that the audio is very very low. So low in fact its hard to hear with headphones at max volume.
any idea on how to embed subtitles in films?
Hey guys,
I've been using GMusic for a while now, but I always found it very limited and not exactly to my taste.
Does anybody know a better music player that can load songs from GMusic?
danielfiller said:
Hey guys,
I've been using GMusic for a while now, but I always found it very limited and not exactly to my taste.
Does anybody know a better music player that can load songs from GMusic?
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not sure if google put the music you buy onto your device or its streaming the music but you might want to take a look at cyangenmods apollo.
Trozzul said:
not sure if google put the music you buy onto your device or its streaming the music but you might want to take a look at cyangenmods apollo.
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It streams all your library, and that's what special about it.
Apollo doesn't support Google Music streaming.
Any other suggestions?
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It streams all your library, and that's what special about it.
Apollo doesn't support Google Music streaming.
Any other suggestions?
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i think there is a way to get it onto your device thought, i got one of their free albums and it was on my device even though data and wifi was turned off. dig around in the files maybe?
The music that's cached is on your device, but digging through the files won't do anything unfortunately, each one deeply encrypted, believe I've tried
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i think there is a way to get it onto your device thought, i got one of their free albums and it was on my device even though data and wifi was turned off. dig around in the files maybe?
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There is a way to do that, but then I lose the whole point of streaming - not having the files taking up space on my device.
The files you found in Apollo were probably some temp cache files leftovers.
So no suggestions?
Maybe someone else knows about an app like the one I'm looking for?
Maybe even some plugin that enables players to stream from Google?
been trying to find something for a while with no luck... I think its a great service, and the app isn't even that bad, but sometimes I just need that music to stream through another music program for a certain feature or option... or just because I say so! lol
(Most of my music I uploaded to the cloud was flac, so it is played back as 320kbps... In some areas I get only 1 bar of 3g, and at worst music playback may pause for 5-10 seconds... but even this is a rare occurrence... Others have complained about the quality, but I think it's great considering I have the options set for high quality playback only and still don't have issues)
what I don't quite understand, is the talk of 'lack of an api' for Google Music streaming.....
However, Android app's for DLNA or other wireless streaming, such as Bubble UPnP, and this app which streams to 'Sonos'? wireless speakers: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=dk.youtec.android.macronos&hl=en
They DO support streaming from google music - the actual CLOUD (sorry it bothers me that someone names an app Cloud Music Sniper and flaunts allowing access to google music, then turns out its for the OFFLINE available apps that you pin for offline access? Oh and shockingly there is an app called Offline Music Importer that works the same - except it doesn't piss me off by implying it can access anything associated with my music on the cloud!) /end rant
So why are these streaming apps like Bubble UPnP able to access my Google Play Music collection on the cloud so I can play it back through my home receiver - yet I can't get it to work with a 3rd party music player at all? Hell, all I honestly want is a stupid visualizer, preferably that I can set as a live wallpaper... but they only seem to work with 1 out of every 5 songs that plays.... regardless of offline or streaming... and that REALLY confuses me =/
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been trying to find something for a while with no luck... I think its a great service, and the app isn't even that bad, but sometimes I just need that music to stream through another music program for a certain feature or option... or just because I say so! lol
(Most of my music I uploaded to the cloud was flac, so it is played back as 320kbps... In some areas I get only 1 bar of 3g, and at worst music playback may pause for 5-10 seconds... but even this is a rare occurrence... Others have complained about the quality, but I think it's great considering I have the options set for high quality playback only and still don't have issues)
what I don't quite understand, is the talk of 'lack of an api' for Google Music streaming.....
However, Android app's for DLNA or other wireless streaming, such as Bubble UPnP, and this app which streams to 'Sonos'? wireless speakers: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=dk.youtec.android.macronos&hl=en
They DO support streaming from google music - the actual CLOUD (sorry it bothers me that someone names an app Cloud Music Sniper and flaunts allowing access to google music, then turns out its for the OFFLINE available apps that you pin for offline access? Oh and shockingly there is an app called Offline Music Importer that works the same - except it doesn't piss me off by implying it can access anything associated with my music on the cloud!) /end rant
So why are these streaming apps like Bubble UPnP able to access my Google Play Music collection on the cloud so I can play it back through my home receiver - yet I can't get it to work with a 3rd party music player at all? Hell, all I honestly want is a stupid visualizer, preferably that I can set as a live wallpaper... but they only seem to work with 1 out of every 5 songs that plays.... regardless of offline or streaming... and that REALLY confuses me =/
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found this baby:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2169761
check it out
THANKS! Know a way to pick output device for the Web based version?
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found this baby:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2169761
check it out
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WOW! thank you so much for letting me know about this! :good:
I'm definitely gonna check it out and see how the streaming quality compares...
[sometimes it makes the difference between playing and buffering when using the Google Play Music app's settings for mobile streaming - the High, Normal, and Low quality setting]
Regardless, this is a good step in a good direction... I know Bubble UPnP app and even some file explorer apps could access cloud storage, including the google music account - so I'm glad someone finally incorporated that in a way that let other music players on the device see the cloud storage as if they were local!
As exciting as it is, I'm also cautiously optimistic... While this means that Google's All Access music service will become much more attractive and viable for multiple device use compared to it's competitors --- there will, of course, be issues regarding protecting digital rights. Already I mentioned the 'misleading' programs that allowed ON DEVICE/'pinned' music from Google Music to be played in 3rd party players, and some convert the file to a properly labeled mp3. Considering Google Play Music already allows for All Access subscription users to do the same to songs within their entire catalog (that is, 'pin' it to the device for offline play - which was really a surprise to me), this means those same programs can now convert the All Access music that is pinned to allow offline play into proper mp3 files.... Thus with some coding to make the process faster, one can essentially download any song they want from All Access and keep it as an mp3 - altho it is only meant to be a subscription service and the option to pin music from all access is just supposed to allow access to the subscription service without signal or without eating up data from a data plan.
I guess that means if Google Music wants their music streaming service to succeed, rather than taking away support for 3rd party players - they must provide an official API and a better means of protecting the songs stored for offline playback using a database and/or file level encryption for the 'pinned' songs. I'd hate to see the ability to use the service on other players be stripped and locked down even more to a single player due to these kind of concerns that Google surely already sees as an issue and is likely brainstorming solutions.
Question:
On the topic of Google Play Music, does anyone happen to know of a similar solution regarding Google Music Streaming on a DESKTOP ??
I have found gmusic (not the iOS app), but a standalone program that sits in the system tray...
http://gmusic.codeplex.com/
Some of the chrome plugins actually offer better features (last.fm integration, lyrics, etc....), but the one I found that said it allowed use of media keys didn't work for me...
This is the only one I found that allows me to A) not get my music player lost in a massive field of tabs, and B) change songs while playing a game!
The Main Player window, although, is nothing more than a customized browser window (like the ability to view webpages within winamp and other programs). It is nice that it is a separate icon not mixed in among other browsers, supports media keys, can be minimized etc ----
The one major thing I'm still unable to find a solution for, is the ability to select (non-default) audio output device!!
I have always had my pc connected to my receiver/surround sound system since I got 'my own' computer, so being able to select the audio output is crucial for me when playing music, as I direct the music through digital output to the sound system, but still want to hear other audio through the output jack.
Many times I'll have -Music through digital optical output, -Game SFX through pc speaker output, and -Google Hangouts (for voice chat with teammates) through USB headset.
However it isn't as common for a game to have audio device options as it is for a music/media player.... and always remembering to alt-tab after the games started to change the the default device is a major pain!
(Not to mention even if I'm just listening to music, I don't want to hear audio from a random ad... esp when I can't track down the source of the ad among my tabs, and it is blaring loud out the sound system along with my music)
Many people have complained/requested this to be a feature of Google Chrome - of course the Google team reading these complaints are thinking from the perspective of a simple web browser, something that usually has no need for such a feature...
However, plenty have brought up the issue of Google's Music Service being web-based, and thus such a feature is needed.
I'm not quite sure it is an issue that needs to be addressed by the Chrome browser, but it should definitely be an option within the Google Music web app itself - similar to how one can choose their input and output device in Google Hangouts, which is also a web-app run within a browser.
Of course, the best solution for me would be to find someone that has created something similar to GMusicFS that allows the music to appear as if it is local (similar to google drive's client) or if one of the better music players (Winamp, Foobar, MusicBee, etc.) had an extension somewhere that allows adding cloud music services like Google Music.
Anyways,
@danielfiller Thanks so much for pointing me to that app!
(sorry to any mods about how this post isn't -exactly- a proper topic for its location. Its just that Google Music is cross platform, not limited to mobile devices. While my question does not relate to any mobile platform, it is regarding the exact same functions the android app provides for the exact same streaming service.)
I know this isn't device specific but I can't easily find a good solution through google.
Bit of a background.
I use Media Center for my main TV and movie watching through a media PC and projector.
But for music I use itunes because my car stereo only supports apple stuff (apart from controlling my phone as a generic bluetooth device) so i moved my music to itunes.... Yep still not that happy about that.
So for music sync to my android devices I use isyncr which works well over wifi. Happy with the control it has. But its not good for my video that I watch in Media Center (or effectively media player I believe as they are the same family).
I have tried Media players sync but not overly impressed. It wants to convert all video and I can't seem to find how to stop it reducing the quality so much. I have created autoplaylists for my video which gets the later video files and the later recorded TV. So happy with the autoplaylist I think.......
Is there anything that will sync media playlists well? Even better if its over wifi.
I don't particularly like airsync (doubletwist) as its very limited for video. I paid for it but have barely used it. I can't seem to selectively choose what to sync. And it appears to only see itunes video which I don't use.
Any suggestions???
I hope for the following;
- Sync only the latest video and/or recordings in media center
- Limit the space videos will take up
- Preference over wifi but not essential
Thanks, Peter.
Well I've started using MediaMonkey which does syncing with reasonable autoplaylists, does it wirelessly if the latest beta is down downloaded, and can limit the space the play list takes up... Although to make more advanced play lists requires to purchase the pro version on my pc but I just grinned and bared it. Also ended up changing my music/itunes sync over to it on my tablet. Have left the phone as isyncr because it integrates little better with iTunes.
So overall happy now after a lot of searching. Doubletwist was just too basic for video. And Much better than using media player that's for sure. But it's still not perfect. The play count not working for media center being one area that's not perfect. But that's more media center I think.
plex will do it, but i believe the feature is still in beta and require a plexpass (paid) subscription.