Hello
Ive been fighting for the last 2 months on new firmware for att version of galaxy note ice cream sandwitch.
What Samsung has told me there isn't any date coming out its the same thing over and over.
Im going to contiue to fight this battle until they punch the firmware out in the us
I like note i might as well root the device
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You gotta fight!!!!! ....for your righttt!!!!! ......to UPDATEEEEE!!!. . Its cool man just relax, root your phone and flash one of the many amazing ROMs the devs have cooked up for us. Trust me when I tell you... you won't be missing the official update
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On the rom in my sig and I will NOT be flashing the official POS update. They can keep it. This rom blows the official bloated ICS away. Already have premium suite too.
Quit your fight. You're wasting time.
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Uhm. That's not entirely true. The offical ICS isn't useless. If it's release, so will the source. That means better cooked roms as well as OC kernels.
Kraize said:
Uhm. That's not entirely true. The offical ICS isn't useless. If it's release, so will the source. That means better cooked roms as well as OC kernels.
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Couldnt of said it better
I'm just waiting for the official release. I think it well be soon enough, don't worry. Like stated above. Once out i would let it settle into the dev section for a week or two to mature, then flash a custom ROM based off the official ics. Of course i would be running the official ics for a little bit until the custom roms mature. Just my own plan.
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its true, the official update is useless to me. but when the official one comes out, so does the source. and with it comes better roms from devs but also, and more importantly to me.... OC kernal... i need that, i tried those ics roms that are out now, they're all great, but its too slow... If you ever download torrentz, you know what im talking about. If im running Adownloader to download a torrent, i cant watch a video at the same time at 1.5 ghz. but at 1.83, i can.
mottyengel said:
its true, the official update is useless to me. but when the official one comes out, so does the source. and with it comes better roms from devs but also, and more importantly to me.... OC kernal... i need that, i tried those ics roms that are out now, they're all great, but its too slow... If you ever download torrentz, you know what im talking about. If im running Adownloader to download a torrent, i cant watch a video at the same time at 1.5 ghz. but at 1.83, i can.
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Do you even realise that not even one year ago, a good android phone had only one processor running at around 1Ghz.
Yayodroid said:
I'm just waiting for the official release. I think it well be soon enough, don't worry. Like stated above. Once out i would let it settle into the dev section for a week or two to mature, then flash a custom ROM based off the official ics. Of course i would be running the official ics for a little bit until the custom roms mature. Just my own plan.
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Why wait? There are a couple that are remarkably mature and stable now. My daily driver is CM9. I'm tempted to try the Hybrid. Anything made by or if he is involved FJ is a quality product. Screw the official update crap. They can keep it. All I want is the official source released, then, well, the sky is the limit.
ive been waiting for official since i bought this thing..two days ago i said f%$k it...20 minutes later i was rooted and ROMed..i flashed ICS Objection..and i love it ... its so smooth and clean!!!
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Do you even realise that not even one year ago, a good android phone had only one processor running at around 1Ghz.
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Lies. A year ago my atrix sported a dual core T2, which I'm finding is quite superior to this scorpion crap we have.
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erick161 said:
Lies. A year ago my atrix sported a dual core T2, which I'm finding is quite superior to this scorpion crap we have.
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He said GOOD Android phone
you should get a PC instead
mottyengel said:
its true, the official update is useless to me. but when the official one comes out, so does the source. and with it comes better roms from devs but also, and more importantly to me.... OC kernal... i need that, i tried those ics roms that are out now, they're all great, but its too slow... If you ever download torrentz, you know what im talking about. If im running Adownloader to download a torrent, i cant watch a video at the same time at 1.5 ghz. but at 1.83, i can.
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I don't give a piss about OCing. Anyone calling ics slow hasn't flashed the roms available for the note.
Ocing this phone will not benefit me in ANY way whatsoever. Already score 3800-4200 in quadrant on this rom. Have full premium suite. Run ANY game at a rate that is super smooth. Get enough battery life to have 4.5 h of screen on with 24h unplugged.
Pray tell, how the hell will official ics help me? It won't.
Quit trying to sound cool and say "oh but ocing!" "oh but this or that!"
Fact is, with current roms the note is hitting close to its maximum potential and there isn't much else to improve.
Actually flash what's currently available before you comment on what the note "will be". It's not going to get much better.
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mottyengel said:
its true, the official update is useless to me. but when the official one comes out, so does the source. and with it comes better roms from devs but also, and more importantly to me.... OC kernal... i need that, i tried those ics roms that are out now, they're all great, but its too slow... If you ever download torrentz, you know what im talking about. If im running Adownloader to download a torrent, i cant watch a video at the same time at 1.5 ghz. but at 1.83, i can.
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You have no idea what you're talking about. Try the rom in my sig. Please.
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Err0xx said:
I don't give a piss about OCing. Anyone calling ics slow hasn't flashed the roms available for the note.
Ocing this phone will not benefit me in ANY way whatsoever. Already score 3800-4200 in quadrant on this rom. Have full premium suite. Run ANY game at a rate that is super smooth. Get enough battery life to have 4.5 h of screen on with 24h unplugged.
Pray tell, how the hell will official ics help me? It won't.
Quit trying to sound cool and say "oh but ocing!" "oh but this or that!"
Fact is, with current roms the note is hitting close to its maximum potential and there isn't much else to improve.
Actually flash what's currently available before you comment on what the note "will be". It's not going to get much better.
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There is a lot more you can do with a kernel besides overclocking after the source is released. It will benefit each of us. I say ICS is useless without the kernel source. It may be good now for the people that have updated to the ICS roms but it will be great after the scource is released. You can say what you but there will be no comparison to the roms now and the roms after getting the source even without overclocking. You must have no idea what your talking about or maybe your just not familiar with custom linux based kernels. The custom kernels is where its at.
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There is a lot more you can do with a kernel besides overclocking after the source is released. It will benefit each of us. I say ICS is useless without the kernel source. It may be good now for the people that have updated to the ICS roms but it will be great after the scource is released. You can say what you but there will be no comparison to the roms now and the roms after getting the source even without overclocking. You must have no idea what your talking about or maybe your just not familiar with custom linux based kernels. The custom kernels is where its at.
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Remember this thread and come back to it and discuss with me what's changed.
Not much will.
You have no ****ing clue who my XDA identities are. Ill wager I know a damn lot more than you about Linux kernels.
With the current rom features, things can marginally improve but,for the most part, aren't going to change much.
Please keep this thread bookmarked and come back to it after ice source is out- I get a demented thrill when I say "I told you so."
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erick161 said:
Lies. A year ago my atrix sported a dual core T2, which I'm finding is quite superior to this scorpion crap we have.
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Very true. I came from an Atrix, with the exception of the random lags i get (thinking its Snapdragon related), this is a far superior phone to my Atrix. I absolutely love the size and feel and build quality.
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All I'll say is if you can't watch a video or play games without your phone stuttering, exchange it.
When I was on GB without OC no problems. And now that I'm on ICS, still no problems. My buddy's note is the same way.
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With all the kernels and releases coming out, what is the general consensus on when ICS ROMs will be considered stable or feature-complete?
Was the recent i777 leak what developers were looking for to complete/optimize ICS ROMs? Or are we still waiting on i777 kernel source? Is Entropy's kernel a long-term solution?
Just wondering when to flash.
Thanks forum.
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With all the kernels and releases coming out, what is the general consensus on when ICS ROMs will be considered stable or feature-complete?
Was the recent i777 leak what developers were looking for to complete/optimize ICS ROMs? Or are we still waiting on i777 kernel source? Is Entropy's kernel a long-term solution?
Just wondering when to flash.
Thanks forum.
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I would say we already have some stable ics roms like aokp and shomans rom and a few others im running ics now its perfect
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But I remember being schooled about "oh we need i777 kernel source before we get ICS" whenever I inquired. We don't seem to have i777 source, but i9000 is good enough?
Let me rephrase my question, how much better will the current ROMs get when i777 kernel source is released? Will we see an AOSP ROM?
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I would say we already have some stable ics roms like aokp and shomans rom and a few others im running ics now its perfect
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But I remember being schooled about "oh we need i777 kernel source before we get ICS" whenever I inquired. We don't seem to have i777 source, but i9000 is good enough?
Let me rephrase my question, how much better will the current ROMs get when i777 kernel source is released? Will we see an AOSP ROM?
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I honestly doubt the i777 kernel source will affect us whatsoever unless of coarse some type of nfc is included
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I have yet to find a single bug running Shoman's rom. Your mileage may vary, read the thread et cetera but if you're asking when to flash I'd just go for it.
+1 on Shoman's ICS rom. It has operated flawlessly for me.
I9100 source is what we needed. We're only a little bit behind I9100 now. I9100 ICS has some nasty stability problems, I'm hoping to fix them before releasing DD for ICS. I'm working with gokhanmoral and a few others on it, it's not I777 unique.
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SHOstock ICS rom is amazingly stable and already in 5th release with more on the way
CM9 now has nightly builds for I-777. I fell in love with CM7 and am really liking the official CM9 nighty builds so far.
ICS leak
The ICS i777 leak, which has been bundled as a cwm zip without bootloaders
is working good for me with only a few minor bugs
alarms not working
wifi only scans after toggle
battery stats graph crashes
I don't know how this compares to i9100, the ICS leak is the first I've tried.
It's stable enough for me to not look back and stick with ICS
I'd definitely recommend SHOstock2, it's head and shoulders above the ATT leak in a lot of ways and I haven't had a single crash or noticed any bugs since installing RC4.
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I'd definitely recommend SHOstock2, it's head and shoulders above the ATT leak in a lot of ways and I haven't had a single crash or noticed any bugs since installing RC4.
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I agree with the uclc2 leak, I had the following issues: Titanium Backup would not install any of my games+data and 1/2 my apps would not install. From what I could tell were any of the apps and games that I had moved over to sd card would not be restored under the leak. Than all of a sudden, my phone had locked up after getting most of my apps *from the batch restore missing apps and data* and quit even getting service when wifi was on and try to turn off wifi = lockup/reboot. Really weird after 4 hours of running it. Under SHOstock2 Rc4 everything restored properly and even upgrading to rc5 which gave back the multi toggle options and running very stable. Zero issue with it.
HTH,
Charlie
I've been running LilChris's phone-bricker with zero problems. Restored apps and data using tibu. Fast and smooth.
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Been running the AOKP build from Ported Dev thread with no major problems. Only problem is that when I am listening to music and a text or notification comes in, the music volume is lowered by 2 notches, then when I try to turn it up it goes by about 3 notches. Its a balancing act to get the volume back. Thats my only grippe. I havent had much time to read so I dont know if the newer ICS roms have fixed that issue.
It seems like all the ROMs have a few little glitches. Is there an ICS ROM that can record video at 1080p? Or connect to a 5GHz AP? Or has HDMI/MHL functionality?
I'm switching to the first one that does all 3. I'd be really excited if we can get NFC too.
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I9100 source is what we needed. We're only a little bit behind I9100 now. I9100 ICS has some nasty stability problems, I'm hoping to fix them before releasing DD for ICS. I'm working with gokhanmoral and a few others on it, it's not I777 unique.
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This is what gets me excited. It's always great to hear that developers from the android community are working together to bring exciting features to our phones. Thanks for all of your hardwork. I wish I would have stayed a computer engineering in college so I could help out, but it you all need testers let me know.
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It seems like all the ROMs have a few little glitches. Is there an ICS ROM that can record video at 1080p? Or connect to a 5GHz AP? Or has HDMI/MHL functionality?
I'm switching to the first one that does all 3. I'd be really excited if we can get NFC too.
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Try lp3 stock from i9100 forum.. Flash with mobil odin but make sure in same flash you use entropy kernel and one of are modems. Then switch usr touchkey file.. Instructions in port section for file.
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So, uh, whats the point of this thread? Why do we need another ICS thread? If this is truly different than the main ICS thread then it can stay open, but from what im reading, its not.
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So, uh, whats the point of this thread? Why do we need another ICS thread? If this is truly different than the main ICS thread then it can stay open, but from what im reading, its not.
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Yea I now see why the mods are so close-happy in this sub-forum. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to invoke a flood of ROM-reviews by starting this thread. All I had wanted was a general outlook of ROM-stability coming from official leaks and releases.
We are going to receive update for ICS soon. I just came across an article that I would like to share the differences between both OS and understand more about them. I'm sure you are all professional with the LEAK ICS by now.
It's also explain why the RAM we've seen is lesser then in GB OS
Mod, if you think it's not a right place, just close it
http: //www.androidauthority.com/android-2-3-gingerbread-vs-android-4-0-ice-cream-sandwich-37742/
Thanks for the link. It was a nice intro to ICS.
I'm new on Android and GB is pretty cool (rocking Saurom 7.1). I wasn't really sure what ICS features were new over what I already have.
Im on gingerbread with Saurom Rom and love it. Tried the Ics. Leak and had some issues with It so i went back to Saurom Rom
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I must have missed the part of the article that explains why the RAM is less in ICS vs GB?
sweetboy02125 said:
We are going to receive update for ICS soon. I just came across an article that I would like to share the differences between both OS and understand more about them. I'm sure you are all professional with the LEAK ICS by now.
It's also explain why the RAM we've seen is lesser then in GB OS
Mod, if you think it's not a right place, just close it
http: //www.androidauthority.com/android-2-3-gingerbread-vs-android-4-0-ice-cream-sandwich-37742/
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Im on gingerbread with Saurom Rom and love it. Tried the Ics. Leak and had some issues with It so i went back to Saurom Rom
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+1 I tried ICS roms too only to be disappointed I mean don't get me wrong I really appreciate the devs but the ICS leak is so unstable it makes it no fun,I'll just wait for official ICS until I flash another leak build, I'm also using Saurom 7.1. IMO its the best so far
Maybe it is because I'm a bit new at this, but after running ICS leak for a couple weeks, I really do not see the big advantage over Gingerbread. It seems like an incremental upgrade and nota revamp of the operating system.
Compared to Saurom Rom, it was no big deal. I guess compared to stock GB, it is noticeably faster.
I guess we'll see soon enough.
I have been trying out several different ICS ROMs on my phone for the last few months. Never had a GB custom ROM. I was on stock UCKK6 which came with my phone and then went on to the ICS roms.
I have tried almost all of the SGH-i777 custom ROMS - and MIUI as well.
Out of curiosity I decided to go back to Gingerbread so flashed UnOriginal ROM.
First thing I noticed - Damn this is smooth. Everything - browser, launcher, touch response - everything is smooth like a baby's butt.
So whats going on with ICS? why dont we have the same smooth experience on any of the ICS roms. Is it because the official source code has not been released yet? or is it resource heavy compared to GB?
Do not want to start a ROM comparison but just curious. Having moved back to GB I am not sure I am missing anything critical from ICS. Others might not share this opinion but this is what it is for me and the things I use my phone for.
I am still bitten by the flash bug - so will continue to try out the ICS ROMs.
What do all of you think about moving back to GB and the pros/cons? What ICS feature will you miss the most? Please share your thoughts!
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I'm about ready to go that route myself... Becoming frustrated when I find a "perfect" ROM, only to have the wlan_rx wakelock come back and drain my battery into nothingness. My favorite GB is Shishir's - Fairly stock, but with some nice tweakability, and have never run into the same battery probs.
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What do all of you think about moving back to GB and the pros/cons? What ICS feature will you miss the most? Please share your thoughts!
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It is a personal choice.
In here, in this world, whole universe, no one forces you to do what you don't want to.
Once in a while, I still heard some people saying "Windows 3.1 is so much better than Windows 7".
It is purely your choice so no need to put the flame on.
It's good that seeing you in fact trying out a few different ROMs and finally made the decision on your own.
That's a good sign for all of us.
I've had the same experience as well. I'm not so sure if it's issues with the roms but more with the Kernels. There is a lot involved to tune the kernels just right. I'm no developer but I believe ICS may just be a little more complex this GB.... or at lease ICS is not so forgiving.... I'm not developer so who knows.
On a side note, I just tried the PARANOIDANDROID v1.1 port so far this has been on the same level as smoothness as any GB rom I've ran. Link below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1660974
I even found a port for my SGS Captivate and wow.... its 10x better then the GB rom. So this rom has something going on that I'm going to keep testing out. You may want to give it a try as well.
Im still on unnamed and ics has a few system changes like scrolling and touch screen responsiveness that make it how it is
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I've had the same experience as well. I'm not so sure if it's issues with the roms but more with the Kernels. There is a lot involved to tune the kernels just right. I'm no developer but I believe ICS may just be a little more complex this GB.... or at lease ICS is not so forgiving.... I'm not developer so who knows.
On a side note, I just tried the PARANOIDANDROID v1.1 port so far this has been on the same level as smoothness as any GB rom I've ran. Link below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1660974
I even found a port for my SGS Captivate and wow.... its 10x better then the GB rom. So this rom has something going on that I'm going to keep testing out. You may want to give it a try as well.
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ive been running paranoidandroid since pre 1.0. its been my daily driver for sure. its ridiculously smooth and stable.
In case you haven't tried this combo already, I've found tasks aokp combined with the fluxi kernel to be the smoothest thing I've ever run. And yes, I've run many gb roms. Bought this phone the day it was released. Unnamed is an awesome rom, but I'm in love with this combo
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In case you haven't tried this combo already, I've found tasks aokp combined with the fluxi kernel to be the smoothest thing I've ever run. And yes, I've run many gb roms. Bought this phone the day it was released. Unnamed is an awesome rom, but I'm in love with this combo
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Agreed. I've been running AOKP/Fluxi combo since I decided to jump into the world of ICS ROMs, and it's the best one I've used so far. I will definitely agree about the smoothness of UnNamed, though. I've got a backup saved just in case
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In case you haven't tried this combo already, I've found tasks aokp combined with the fluxi kernel to be the smoothest thing I've ever run. And yes, I've run many gb roms. Bought this phone the day it was released. Unnamed is an awesome rom, but I'm in love with this combo
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I have tried AOKP with Siyah and Neak but not with Fluxi. I will give it a shot.
Of all the ICS ROMs I have tried - I thought Shishir ICS and Serendipity 9 were the smoothest - however that might be partly due to the SGS3 launcher.
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ive been running paranoidandroid since pre 1.0. its been my daily driver for sure. its ridiculously smooth and stable.
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I need to give this ROM a shot as well. Looks pretty interesting.
GB > ICS.
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Binnacle is also damn smooth. That was my personal favorite GB rom.
Every time I flash an ICS rom, I immediately go running back to GB. Maybe it's just me being impatient and not letting things "settle in", but most ICS roms I've tried aren't as quick and smooth, and that just gives me an anxiety attack
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Binnacle is also damn smooth. That was my personal favorite GB rom.
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I had not even heard of this one. But saw LilChris's index post and found it. I will definitely try this one. A ROM that PirateGhost and Red5 worked on - has to be great
It shows Beta7 as the latest version. Is this stable enough to be a daily driver?
Binnacle is hands down the best gb rom for this phone. It is wicked fast and epic battery life. Its more than enough for a dd
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The only thing that doesn't work on Binnacle is the strippers. Pirate took them out of the last beta build, said they were too "lulzactive" for him.
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MikeyMikes Serendipity 9 is the smoothest thing I've run. Especially with the stock Sammy launcher available during Aroma install.
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MikeyMikes Serendipity 9 is the smoothest thing I've run. Especially with the stock Sammy launcher available during Aroma install.
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+1. The new Touchwiz UX is really smooth. Trebuchet does not feel as smooth on the same ROM
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Binnacle is hands down the best gb rom for this phone. It is wicked fast and epic battery life. Its more than enough for a dd
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I did try Binnacle Beta 7 yesterday. I did not realize it had android 2.3.6. I somehow like the bounce effect in 2.3.4 that the UnOriginal ROM offers. Hate the glow effect in 2.3.6. Also, personally I felt UnOriginal was smoother than Binnacle (no offense) - just my opinion.
I did not leave it on long enough to comment about battery life. I flashed a different ROM. Seems like I am turning into a Flashaholic (need to restrain)
My progression:
Unnamed, then MIUI then CM7 then CM9. Doubt I'll ever leave CM9.
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I've been using CM9 for 4-5 weeks now, and I like it. It's nearly perfect, but the rotation and camera bugs aren't exactly deal breakers for me, though I would like to have full use of my phone. CM9 just got an update, but CM7.2 is updated almost daily, and I suppose everything works due to the Gingerbread drivers being available. Plus, Gingerbread uses fewer resources. It's not overclocked, but I imagine in running at 1GHz it gets better battery life.
So just wondering what the Photon/Electrify users think, and a poll for nice statistics.
I was using cm9 as my daily for many months. When the newness wore off I started experimenting with other roms including cm7. And I must stay, after using cm7, cm9 seems to feel very sloppy and forced. This is no fault of joker, just the current tools he is given. Cm7 is absolutely a dream and is leaps and bounds more customizable than cm9 in its current iteration. You'll find that everything works without flaw and that battery is much better. All in all, if you need to be on the bleeding edge, run cm9. If you want full functionality and everything to just work, run cm7.
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I'm still waiting on HDMI mirroring to work on cm7, has it been fixed?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1456298
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Acvice said:
I was using cm9 as my daily for many months. When the newness wore off I started experimenting with other roms including cm7. And I must stay, after using cm7, cm9 seems to feel very sloppy and forced. This is no fault of joker, just the current tools he is given. Cm7 is absolutely a dream and is leaps and bounds more customizable than cm9 in its current iteration. You'll find that everything works without flaw and that battery is much better. All in all, if you need to be on the bleeding edge, run cm9. If you want full functionality and everything to just work, run cm7.
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Thanks for the input. That's all very helpful. I love the hell outta ICS/CM9 and I have it set up nice, but I'm going on vacation in a couple months, and, while I'd like to show off ICS, stability and fluidity will be more important, as well as battery life.
And no, I don't wanna knock Joker either, he does great work, I'm just not sure if I'm a bleeding edge kind of guy. Part of me is (the whole geek thing) but another part of me wants something that just works. I'll get something that's risky and cool (Paranoid Android in tablet mode, for example) and then I'll go back to something safe. Actually using Paranoid Android in phone mode right now. I like the centered (yes, iPhone-like) clock.
I like CM9 but the camera stuff is a deal breaker for me. I've used the CM7/2.3.5 hybrid from peetr. It's smooth, fast, battery-sipping, and wonderful. I love the 1080p video camera. I tried overclocking it (you can do that with CM7 roms, by the way), but I didn't really notice a difference in speed, and it seems just a bit unstable. I think the biggest difference people notice in speed with overclocking, other than benchmarks, is the fact that they don't have a bunch of apps and settings slowing their phone down when they first load a new ROM, so of course it seems faster than what they were just working with.
xopher.hunter said:
I'm still waiting on HDMI mirroring to work on cm7, has it been fixed?
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HDMI mirroring works on the Photon Dev
Teams CM7.2 version of Cybiks work.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1456298
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fester30 said:
I like CM9 but the camera stuff is a deal breaker for me. I've used the CM7/2.3.5 hybrid from peetr. It's smooth, fast, battery-sipping, and wonderful. I love the 1080p video camera. I tried overclocking it (you can do that with CM7 roms, by the way), but I didn't really notice a difference in speed, and it seems just a bit unstable. I think the biggest difference people notice in speed with overclocking, other than benchmarks, is the fact that they don't have a bunch of apps and settings slowing their phone down when they first load a new ROM, so of course it seems faster than what they were just working with.
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Forget both joker is working on vanilla jellybean that's almost release ready! He day man!
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photon4glover said:
Forget both joker is working on vanilla jellybean that's almost release ready! He day man!
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Jellybean will be less stable than cm9 and hellaless stable than cm7 for a while. Try to remember that it's taken joker months of hard work to make cm9 this stable on a gingerbread kernel and components from other devices. Jellybean is exciting, but it's a generally small update that is meant to fix bugs and introduce a couple new apps. The problems we have with cm9 (lack of libs, kernel) will still exist.
You forgot its gonna make things extremely smooth.
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FC809 said:
You forgot its gonna make things extremely smooth.
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What do you mean?
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He's talking about Project Butter, I think. That should work on Tegra 2...
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Dark Reality said:
He's talking about Project Butter, I think. That should work on Tegra 2...
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I hope Motorola needs to get off there asses and release the drivers its amazing how one developer can push ics out in a few monthes and Motorola needs a year
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I would use CM9 as my daily, but without the right drivers and the resulting issues with navigation, it's a deal breaker for me.
Dark Reality said:
He's talking about Project Butter, I think. That should work on Tegra 2...
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Butter is considered by many to not be all that its cracked up to be. And again, considering our lack of libs and kernel, butter will be of limited help for us as of yet.
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Dark Reality said:
He's talking about Project Butter, I think. That should work on Tegra 2...
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I'm pretty sure Butter will require working drivers to work properly, so as excited as I am to see a JB port to our Photons, I doubt it'll be nearly as smooth as it seems until we get proper drivers =/.
I'm currently on CM 7.2 and loving it, but will move over to CM9 once we get some leaked drivers/kernel from Motorola. Joker does some great work, and it's impressive to see how much is working on ICS without those bits from Moto.
I agree. I am using Cm7 because it is stable. I really like Cm7 but am ready to move back to a more stable CM9.
I love both ROMs, but after using AOKP i can't go back to a GB ROM
What does AOKP have over CM9?
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Was gonna wait for the official ICS update for the thunderbolt but after 4months and numerous rumors not panning out im going to root and flash a rom any suggestions for the best daily driver ????
But browsing and reading up a little but still confused on whats available??? Would love to try jelly bean but i can settle for ICS
Battery life, speed and stability are the important points for a daily driver
Whats you suggestions????
I know I'm gonna regret it as soon as i root and flash the official update will probably come out but i remember when i first rooted my OG droid I never went back so what you guys suggest??? also next upgrade will probably be taking the nexus 4 to straight talk but wanna get a few more months out of my Thunderbolt u would think HTC would want to keep the customers that run out and bought the first 4G device but i guess all they really care about is our money.
Rpatton said:
Was gonna wait for the official ICS update for the thunderbolt but after 4months and numerous rumors not panning out im going to root and flash a rom any suggestions for the best daily driver ????
But browsing and reading up a little but still confused on whats available??? Would love to try jelly bean but i can settle for ICS
Battery life, speed and stability are the important points for a daily driver
Whats you suggestions????
I know I'm gonna regret it as soon as i root and flash the official update will probably come out but i remember when i first rooted my OG droid I never went back so what you guys suggest??? also next upgrade will probably be taking the nexus 4 to straight talk but wanna get a few more months out of my Thunderbolt u would think HTC would want to keep the customers that run out and bought the first 4G device but i guess all they really care about is our money.
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If you're looking for an ICS build there really is no amazing one yet, but Liquid's is the best you will find with Nusense a close second. My personal recommendation for a daily driver though is Thundershed, or any of the roms from reds. I am running ikream nosense and enjoy it a bit. There is also the sense based offering of it both are pretty nice. Depending on what rom you go with there are kernels and things like that to pick up from there.
If you want something bug free i recommend Skyraider zeus 1.3. Thats what im using with the lean kernel. Its very smooth. Plus there is a sweet ics theme for it. Throw in halo launcher aswell and you pretty much have the complete look and feel of ics and bug free. Everything works perfect on this rom
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bigligg said:
If you want something bug free i recommend Skyraider zeus 1.3. Thats what im using with the lean kernel. Its very smooth. Plus there is a sweet ics theme for it. Throw in halo launcher aswell and you pretty much have the complete look and feel of ics and bug free. Everything works perfect on this rom
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Skyraider always bootlooped or the radios were horrid and drew no signal for me for no reason even after clean flashing so I swapped over to the ikream ones personally
binkies said:
Skyraider always bootlooped or the radios were horrid and drew no signal for me for no reason even after clean flashing so I swapped over to the ikream ones personally
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Thats odd. I've used it for a long time with no issues. I use the .19 radio with it.
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bigligg said:
Thats odd. I've used it for a long time with no issues. I use the .19 radio with it.
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As was I. I just assumed my phone had aids though since it sees to work quite well for a lot of users
Proving again that all Thunderbolts are different, don't know why, but each responds differently to different ROMS.
To the OP, remember! Flashing is cheap, don't hesitate to try several ROMs before deciding on one you like.
I lean toward the NuSense but battery life isn't quite what I need... <sigh>
Another hearty recommendation for SkyRaider 1.3.
I've been evaluating lots of other ROMs and radio combos. Nothing has been as solid a daily driver as SkyRaider Zeus.
I'm really working at using Twisted's AOKP ICS, but my Bolt doesn't love it. I keep getting data hangs, and have to reset the radios via Airplane mode off/on.
And the leaked Sense ICS was way too battery hungry for me.
BoulderGeek said:
Another hearty recommendation for SkyRaider 1.3.
I've been evaluating lots of other ROMs and radio combos. Nothing has been as solid a daily driver as SkyRaider Zeus.
I'm really working at using Twisted's AOKP ICS, but my Bolt doesn't love it. I keep getting data hangs, and have to reset the radios via Airplane mode off/on.
And the leaked Sense ICS was way too battery hungry for me.
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I have been running on Sky Raider and once I got the right radio, I had no issues. Pretty solid
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LiquidSmooth 3.2:good: with the .19 radio. It has been my daily driver for almost a year now. Way better than any current ICS rom for the mecha. No problems, everything works. And it all works plenty fast enough.
If you really want a solid ROM with everything working great, Sky Raider is excellent. Especially since I like having a good camera and video camera. Nice to have everything work perfectly. I love AOSP, it is very fast, but you don't get the same functionality (dont get me wrong it is very close, but small things like camera are just not quite as good) you do with Sense. I hate sense but skyraider really is a great ROM
ph19971207 said:
LiquidSmooth 3.2:good: with the .19 radio. It has been my daily driver for almost a year now. Way better than any current ICS rom for the mecha. No problems, everything works. And it all works plenty fast enough.
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I wanted to check that out. Cant find a working link
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bigligg said:
I wanted to check that out. Cant find a working link
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I sent you a private message with the link. Not sure if I am allowed to post it in the forum. If anyone else needs it just PM me.
You should check out Twisted's new rom. I haven't had any problems with it and it's the smoothest rom I've had in awhile.
So can anyone give me a rundown on the differences on these ROM's? I've seen Liquid 3.2, Thundershed, and Skyraider mentioned here. Which are Sense based and which are AOSP. Are the Sense based Rom's laggy? I've tried NuSense, and it was a nice ROM, but just too laggy for my taste. I've tried Jesters and Twisted's 11-7 version of Liquids ICS ROM, and they've been great, but I'm having too many bluetooth issues which will interfere with work so it's a no go if I can't simply turn on the bluetooth and let it connect.
I understand flashing is supposed to be quick and easy so just try them all, but it seems to take me several hours to get everything backed up, flashed, and put back the way I like it. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
F350-6 said:
So can anyone give me a rundown on the differences on these ROM's? I've seen Liquid 3.2, Thundershed, and Skyraider mentioned here. Which are Sense based and which are AOSP. Are the Sense based Rom's laggy? .
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I have only used LiquidSmooth 3.2. It is a Gingerbread AOSP. Any Sense ROM tends to be very laggy on either of my Thunderbolts. And all of the ICS ROM's seem to have at least one problem or another that keeps it from being my daily driver(bluetooth, wifi, camera or camcorder especially!)
It all depends on what you can and can't live without on a DD. Most of the Gingerbread ROMS's shouldn't have many, if any, issues. Some may be slightly slower than others and look different but all should make a good DD. The current ICS ROM's for the mecha are extremely fast, but usually lack in the camcorder or wifi department.
This thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1905083 has most of the ROM's linked(except LiquidSmooth3.2 Not sure why all the links to it were removed, Liquid is the Man tho and gotta respect his decision)
ph19971207 said:
I have only used LiquidSmooth 3.2. It is a Gingerbread AOSP. Any Sense ROM tends to be very laggy on either of my Thunderbolts. And all of the ICS ROM's seem to have at least one problem or another that keeps it from being my daily driver(bluetooth, wifi, camera or camcorder especially!)
It all depends on what you can and can't live without on a DD. Most of the Gingerbread ROMS's shouldn't have many, if any, issues. Some may be slightly slower than others and look different but all should make a good DD. The current ICS ROM's for the mecha are extremely fast, but usually lack in the camcorder or wifi department.
This thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1905083 has most of the ROM's linked(except LiquidSmooth3.2 Not sure why all the links to it were removed, Liquid is the Man tho and gotta respect his decision)
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I found basically all sense roms to be laggy except for Skyraider. I'd recommend it to anyone.
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Bamf forever 1.10 or 1.11 or Skyraider? I cant find any of them all the links are broken If you can post a link or PM me a link to it other than the teambamf.net site cause it doesnt work that would be awesome.