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So if I am reading correctly it seems both cores are not on all the time? That could be a reason why it feels choppier compared to epic touch
Both cores run when needed. Trolls dont bother me....
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Several threads on this. Both cores don't run at same time but you can make them
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So if I am reading correctly it seems both cores are not on all the time? That could be a reason why it feels choppier compared to epic touch
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The problem is the fact the htc sense is one resource hogging *****.
You know, if both cores ran at once your phone would drain like there was a hole in the battery.
The second core kicks in only when it's needed, being that, there really isn't much of a need doing basic tasks.
Also, I haven't really noticed any choppyness in my phone whatsoever.
I run both cores and battery drain is no prob if set up right. Check other posts on topic and most are positive. My experience has been awesome
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If I flash a senseless rom will I lose the camera (htc camera better than stock android imo)
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I run both cores and battery drain is no prob if set up right. Check other posts on topic and most are positive. My experience has been awesome
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One of the reasons that the evo is so great is due to its processor. The second core runs only when it needs to, and/or runs at half the speed of the first until you need more power. This is done to conserve power and heat like others have mentioned. This feature isn't a bane but a boon for the device. Other devices don't have this method of processing (like the photon 4g). The photon 4g has two active cores all the time but during benchmarks it only out preforms the evo on certain marks, where the photon was designed to excel, like video viewing
Just recently started watching netflix a little bit, and after about 10 minutes the phone gets ridiculously hot. It got to the point where I think the phone overheated and froze.
I tried limiting the CPU to 800mhz and set it to conservative, but it is still getting very hot.
Anyone have any suggestions?
Running ICScrewed v1.5.2 (I think that's the version, whatever the latest on it).
Netflix must be running the CPU/GPU at full bore most of the time while streaming content. Unfortunately there's nothing you can do about it - it's the nature of the beast. This device tends to get really hot in extreme processing.
I'm starting to be concerned about the longevity of it. I know it's built around the 32nm mfg process so it's quite efficient but the heat is outrageous for a phone...
My phone got really hot only top left of the phone when I played blood and glory. Pretty weird. When I exit the game it cools back down like nothing ever happened. =\ I'm thinking I just got the phone at the wrong time/place.
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My phone gets really hot from some games but never Netflix, that's odd
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clor01 said:
My phone got really hot only top left of the phone when I played blood and glory. Pretty weird. When I exit the game it cools back down like nothing ever happened. =\ I'm thinking I just got the phone at the wrong time/place.
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Lol no its called welcome to the laws of physics. Electricity generates heat...
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Lol no its called welcome to the laws of physics. Electricity generates heat...
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Nothing is perfectly efficient, and a product of inefficiency is heat! The more power you use the more heat that's generated. Just like on a computer, the more CPU/GPU intensive things you do the more your computer will warm up.
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Thought maybe it was the phone itself.
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When I watch Netflix, I would say it gets a little warm - but I would certainly not call it hot.
Possibly another program(s) running in the background consuming additional resources?
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The only time Netflix has heated up my phone was when playing on my TV over a MHL adapter, while charging, and pulling the video over data. Normally when I just watch on the phone, using wifi it doesn't heat up.
But as others said, that's a lot of power, and I expected some heat. Even at that set up, it wasn't hot enough to worry me.
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So my phone is getting really how while playing Nova 3. So hot that the CPU has to throttle (downclock in order to keep the temperature down). This also makes my game lag and when I quit the game the phone is pretty slow too till it cools down again.
Should my phone even get so hot that it has to throttle without even having it overclocked?
I have noticed that other games, like Dead Trigger which is just as advanced graphically (altough I'm aware it might have to do more with the CPU usage), don't make the phone this hot.
This behaviour was on one of the latest stock ICS roms for the S3. I´m on jelly bean now but I don´t have a feeling it has changed.
Edit: Okay guys I really appreciate all the feedback but my question is whether other people's phone get so hot too. I am not going to root or downclock anything. I just want to know if this is normal.
Power saving on? Stock kernel?
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Power saving on? Stock kernel?
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No and yes? Don't see what is matters though.
Power saving downclocks the cpu so it should get even less hot. So that logic doesn't really make sense.
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No and yes? Don't see what is matters though.
Power saving downclocks the cpu so it should get even less hot. So that logic doesn't really make sense.
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Underclock the gpu also. Turn off power saving when playing the game, if you have it on the game is trying to run difficult process with less power which makes the phone work extra harder than it would when power saving is off.
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My phone always gets hot just above the home button in that region
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My phone always gets hot just above the home button in that region
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Mine also, and everyone else. I think that's where the processor may be. Not sure though.
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I thought it '' was the way I was holding it'' as Steve Jobs said doesn't bug me but I don't want to shorten my cpu so I put it down
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Yeah, that's where the Exynos is located.
You could try using a custom kernel (Siyah) and undervolt CPU + GPU. If your CPU is able to run stable at -50mV or even -100mV you'll significantly reduce the heat production. Mine unfortunately only stays stable at -25, otherwise I'll experience random reboots.
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Yeah, that's where the Exynos is located.
You could try using a custom kernel (Siyah) and undervolt CPU + GPU. If your CPU is able to run stable at -50mV or even -100mV you'll significantly reduce the heat production. Mine unfortunately only stays stable at -25, otherwise I'll experience random reboots.
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Yeah underclocking will help a lot. But try to reduce your gaming sessions also.
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Are you charging while playing? If you are, don't. It causes overheating. Play without the charger plugged in and charge only after you are done playing.
That is normal operations for a phone. It will get hot because circuits are being supplied with electricity.
Nova 3 working???? I m not able to continue. Getting device not supported error. You have good luck
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Nova 3 working???? I m not able to continue. Getting device not supported error. You have good luck
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you like me are probaly on jellybean? am i not right? this game works on ics only as far as i know. Along that line has anyone on jellybean got it to work?.
Back to the topic what are u playing mp? or single player? multiplayer is more cpu intensive than sp, also are you on MAX BRIGHTNESS? if so lower it you will see a difference . Flash a custom kernel and underclock the cpu/gpu .
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Underclock the gpu also. Turn off power saving when playing the game, if you have it on the game is trying to run difficult process with less power which makes the phone work extra harder than it would when power saving is off.
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I'm not rooted.. Also I don't think the gpu is even the one producing all the head as the CPU throttles.
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Are you charging while playing? If you are, don't. It causes overheating. Play without the charger plugged in and charge only after you are done playing.
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I don't play while charging, but still it gets so hot that it has to throttle.
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That is normal operations for a phone. It will get hot because circuits are being supplied with electricity.
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Yeah well ofcourse it's supposed to get hot, but what I'm asking is whether it is normal that it gets So damn hot that the CPU has to throttle.
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Yeah well ofcourse it's supposed to get hot, but what I'm asking is whether it is normal that it gets So damn hot that the CPU has to throttle.
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how long are you playing for? longest i can play for is about 20-30min before i get tired of the controls. my phone is always burning hot afterwards, but i dont really experience slow downs. im on ICS, rooted, and yes the game is paid for
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So my phone is getting really how while playing Nova 3. So hot that the CPU has to throttle (downclock in order to keep the temperature down). This also makes my game lag and when I quit the game the phone is pretty slow too till it cools down again.
Should my phone even get so hot that it has to throttle without even having it overclocked?
I have noticed that other games, like Dead Trigger which is just as advanced graphically (altough I'm aware it might have to do more with the CPU usage), don't make the phone this hot.
This behaviour was on one of the latest stock ICS roms for the S3. I´m on jelly bean now but I don´t have a feeling it has changed.
Edit: Okay guys I really appreciate all the feedback but my question is whether other people's phone get so hot too. I am not going to root or downclock anything. I just want to know if this is normal.
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Normal, if you are on stock, not overclocked, then you have nothing to worry about.
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how long are you playing for? longest i can play for is about 20-30min before i get tired of the controls. my phone is always burning hot afterwards, but i dont really experience slow downs. im on ICS, rooted, and yes the game is paid for
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Well after 10 minutes it's pretty damn hot. The framerate is ok but not nearly as good when it just booted.
Mine gets hot in nova 3 but it remains warm not hot in Shadow gun and uses very less battery...
I think thats because nova is not optimized for quad core . So it uses one core at full frequency producing heat and draining battery faster than shadow gun.
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I bought the game. Btw
When I play the game, my device heats up and just wondering if there is a app for showing the CPU temp. And what is the safe zone for the CPU? But I really need that app its not only mc4 but that my main question. I played for 2 hours straight, ended up with 12% battery and the phone felt very hot.
EDIT: for anyone wishing to find out their CPU temp, buy SET CPU and place the widget on your homescreen.
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These games are really GPU intensive so my bet is you slow down your gaming. I mean take breaks from time to time. App, I don't know any but you may find it and it may need root. Plus do you have a case on? If yes then it is one of the reasons why your phone is heating up so much. Can you also specify the position where the Phone feels the hottest.
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These games are really GPU intensive so my bet is you slow down your gaming. I mean take breaks from time to time. App, I don't know any but you may find it and it may need root. Plus do you have a case on? If yes then it is one of the reasons why your phone is heating up so much. Can you also specify the position where the Phone feels the hottest.
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mine heats up from bottom
Taimur Akmal said:
These games are really GPU intensive so my bet is you slow down your gaming. I mean take breaks from time to time. App, I don't know any but you may find it and it may need root. Plus do you have a case on? If yes then it is one of the reasons why your phone is heating up so much. Can you also specify the position where the Phone feels the hottest.
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my phone heats up in the bottom right. I don't use a case, i am fully rooted and have a custom rom. i don't have any way to read what temperature my phone is heating up to but at a guess, i would say around 50 C or something i don't know My old s1 actually plays the game smoother than my s3!!!! i think the heat is throttling it. i haven't overclocked my phone.
The processor is at the bottom so it will definitely heat up there.
The best thing you can do is to take a break when playing for a long time. Don't charge when playing, turn power saving off when playing (works for me).
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The processor is at the bottom so it will definitely heat up there.
The best thing you can do is to take a break when playing for a long time. Don't charge when playing, turn power saving off when playing (works for me).
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never have power saving on! and never charge my phone while playing.
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never have power saving on! and never charge my phone while playing.
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Knowing gameloft, the game is probably not optimized.
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I'm having no trouble playing MC4 for many hours.. Charging just makes a little warmer than it normally would be. Something happened one time when it went really hot, but cooling it down and reboot, and nothing happened ever since. I'm pretty sure there's a monitoring widget app on play store, but there's a menu in SetCPU that shows current battery level and temperature.
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Knowing gameloft, the game is probably not optimized.
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No sh!t, gayloft basically hate android Nova 3 has better graphics then mc4 and that runs buttery smooth and doesn't make me heat up. Gayloft are simply apple fanboys. Even though android has more downloads a hour for mc4
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I'm having no trouble playing MC4 for many hours.. Charging just makes a little warmer than it normally would be. Something happened one time when it went really hot, but cooling it down and reboot, and nothing happened ever since. I'm pretty sure there's a monitoring widget app on play store, but there's a menu in SetCPU that shows current battery level and temperature.
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o can you please post your UV settings?
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Hope this shows. I used setcpu to set this. Stweaks to oc gpu up to 600mhz
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Hope this shows. I used setcpu to set this. Stweaks to oc gpu up to 600mhz
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thanks! i just got set CPU and i set them in and BAM! phone won't get hot! also the widget has cpu temp! YAY! thanks mate!
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Glad everything's sorted
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yep will do, just a few last things, i modified the UV a bit. My phone started to crash alot so i changed them a bit. for 3 hours of gaming my CPU went up to 50C still kinda warm but hey, it quadcore. to keep it at 30C or 24C idle you would need a water cooler. LOL
Ah yeah. My settings are a bit low.. Stable enough but hey every device is different. Rarely felt my battery warm to the extent I go oh it's hot. Good luck with mc4.
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Is it possible that force gpu rendering,in developers settings, may heat up a device faster while playing, rather than keeping it disabled?
I am a new user of HOX+ and I dont know if the temperature is normal or not. I'm using Elegancia ROM and use it only to play Candy Crush or Governor of Poker. My mobile data is rarely on and I often set the brightness level to the lowest. The battery temperature widget says it is running around 43-45 celcius degree, sometimes a little bit more. For me, that number makes the upper back part of the handset (around the camera) too hot and uncomfortable for my palm. Is the temperature normal?
What ROM do you use and how is temperature going?
Afaik its been a common problem. I run Viper XL and my battery goes up to 50C
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Afaik its been a common problem. I run Viper XL and my battery goes up to 50C
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Well it must be annoying. Ive read some articles about it and the problem comes from the characteristics of Tegra 3 overheating. I think that answer my question about it being too hot. I hope the the hardcase doesnt prevent the heat to go out
I been using for almost a year, it overheated before. In August I gave it to the services Center, when it came back. It doesn't over heat as much as it did. Max temperature so far on my phone is 50c,before 55.
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I been using for almost a year, it overheated before. In August I gave it to the services Center, when it came back. It doesn't over heat as much as it did. Max temperature so far on my phone is 50c,before 55.
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Thanks for replying
so how do you use your phone? what is your average temperature now?
Gaming, videos, music, browsing, Facebook, Instagram, HTC blink etc. Average temperature 45c.
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It's actually lower than I expected, hahaha.
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It's actually lower than I expected, hahaha.
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Dang...mine is around 45
Do you measure that temperature when you are playing games or doing whatsoever or right after you turn the device on? Any means or tool you use to preserve the battery temperature?
When i am just texting or browsing it is quite cool, But the heat goes way over the top when I then use it for games after that. I can feel the difference too much.
Is it related to the working cores or something?
I measure whenever I want to. No there's no such application to do that unless you underclock, but lose performance. Take it to the service Center, tell them to fix it, tell it overheats. Mine was first only formatted, then I lied to them about having other issues, so they send it to the company, and they replaced everything inside, when it came back, no more issues. I'm guessing an updated version of the Tegra 3 is released, which fixes overheating issues, so maybe they kept the new one in mine lol
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I measure whenever I want to. No there's no such application to do that unless you underclock, but lose performance. Take it to the service Center, tell them to fix it, tell it overheats. Mine was first only formatted, then I lied to them about having other issues, so they send it to the company, and they replaced everything inside, when it came back, no more issues. I'm guessing an updated version of the Tegra 3 is released, which fixes overheating issues, so maybe they kept the new one in mine lol
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Then i guess its better for the old hox+ to be returned to be replaced
Mine is a gift and no htc service center nearby. I think I have to accept this. Or maybe i could wait for others to post here to see if it only happens to me or not