So my phone is getting really how while playing Nova 3. So hot that the CPU has to throttle (downclock in order to keep the temperature down). This also makes my game lag and when I quit the game the phone is pretty slow too till it cools down again.
Should my phone even get so hot that it has to throttle without even having it overclocked?
I have noticed that other games, like Dead Trigger which is just as advanced graphically (altough I'm aware it might have to do more with the CPU usage), don't make the phone this hot.
This behaviour was on one of the latest stock ICS roms for the S3. I´m on jelly bean now but I don´t have a feeling it has changed.
Edit: Okay guys I really appreciate all the feedback but my question is whether other people's phone get so hot too. I am not going to root or downclock anything. I just want to know if this is normal.
Power saving on? Stock kernel?
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No and yes? Don't see what is matters though.
Power saving downclocks the cpu so it should get even less hot. So that logic doesn't really make sense.
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No and yes? Don't see what is matters though.
Power saving downclocks the cpu so it should get even less hot. So that logic doesn't really make sense.
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Underclock the gpu also. Turn off power saving when playing the game, if you have it on the game is trying to run difficult process with less power which makes the phone work extra harder than it would when power saving is off.
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My phone always gets hot just above the home button in that region
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My phone always gets hot just above the home button in that region
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Mine also, and everyone else. I think that's where the processor may be. Not sure though.
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I thought it '' was the way I was holding it'' as Steve Jobs said doesn't bug me but I don't want to shorten my cpu so I put it down
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Yeah, that's where the Exynos is located.
You could try using a custom kernel (Siyah) and undervolt CPU + GPU. If your CPU is able to run stable at -50mV or even -100mV you'll significantly reduce the heat production. Mine unfortunately only stays stable at -25, otherwise I'll experience random reboots.
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Yeah, that's where the Exynos is located.
You could try using a custom kernel (Siyah) and undervolt CPU + GPU. If your CPU is able to run stable at -50mV or even -100mV you'll significantly reduce the heat production. Mine unfortunately only stays stable at -25, otherwise I'll experience random reboots.
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Yeah underclocking will help a lot. But try to reduce your gaming sessions also.
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Are you charging while playing? If you are, don't. It causes overheating. Play without the charger plugged in and charge only after you are done playing.
That is normal operations for a phone. It will get hot because circuits are being supplied with electricity.
Nova 3 working???? I m not able to continue. Getting device not supported error. You have good luck
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Nova 3 working???? I m not able to continue. Getting device not supported error. You have good luck
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you like me are probaly on jellybean? am i not right? this game works on ics only as far as i know. Along that line has anyone on jellybean got it to work?.
Back to the topic what are u playing mp? or single player? multiplayer is more cpu intensive than sp, also are you on MAX BRIGHTNESS? if so lower it you will see a difference . Flash a custom kernel and underclock the cpu/gpu .
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Underclock the gpu also. Turn off power saving when playing the game, if you have it on the game is trying to run difficult process with less power which makes the phone work extra harder than it would when power saving is off.
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I'm not rooted.. Also I don't think the gpu is even the one producing all the head as the CPU throttles.
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Are you charging while playing? If you are, don't. It causes overheating. Play without the charger plugged in and charge only after you are done playing.
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I don't play while charging, but still it gets so hot that it has to throttle.
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Yeah well ofcourse it's supposed to get hot, but what I'm asking is whether it is normal that it gets So damn hot that the CPU has to throttle.
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Yeah well ofcourse it's supposed to get hot, but what I'm asking is whether it is normal that it gets So damn hot that the CPU has to throttle.
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how long are you playing for? longest i can play for is about 20-30min before i get tired of the controls. my phone is always burning hot afterwards, but i dont really experience slow downs. im on ICS, rooted, and yes the game is paid for
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So my phone is getting really how while playing Nova 3. So hot that the CPU has to throttle (downclock in order to keep the temperature down). This also makes my game lag and when I quit the game the phone is pretty slow too till it cools down again.
Should my phone even get so hot that it has to throttle without even having it overclocked?
I have noticed that other games, like Dead Trigger which is just as advanced graphically (altough I'm aware it might have to do more with the CPU usage), don't make the phone this hot.
This behaviour was on one of the latest stock ICS roms for the S3. I´m on jelly bean now but I don´t have a feeling it has changed.
Edit: Okay guys I really appreciate all the feedback but my question is whether other people's phone get so hot too. I am not going to root or downclock anything. I just want to know if this is normal.
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Normal, if you are on stock, not overclocked, then you have nothing to worry about.
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how long are you playing for? longest i can play for is about 20-30min before i get tired of the controls. my phone is always burning hot afterwards, but i dont really experience slow downs. im on ICS, rooted, and yes the game is paid for
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Well after 10 minutes it's pretty damn hot. The framerate is ok but not nearly as good when it just booted.
Mine gets hot in nova 3 but it remains warm not hot in Shadow gun and uses very less battery...
I think thats because nova is not optimized for quad core . So it uses one core at full frequency producing heat and draining battery faster than shadow gun.
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Just recently started watching netflix a little bit, and after about 10 minutes the phone gets ridiculously hot. It got to the point where I think the phone overheated and froze.
I tried limiting the CPU to 800mhz and set it to conservative, but it is still getting very hot.
Anyone have any suggestions?
Running ICScrewed v1.5.2 (I think that's the version, whatever the latest on it).
Netflix must be running the CPU/GPU at full bore most of the time while streaming content. Unfortunately there's nothing you can do about it - it's the nature of the beast. This device tends to get really hot in extreme processing.
I'm starting to be concerned about the longevity of it. I know it's built around the 32nm mfg process so it's quite efficient but the heat is outrageous for a phone...
My phone got really hot only top left of the phone when I played blood and glory. Pretty weird. When I exit the game it cools back down like nothing ever happened. =\ I'm thinking I just got the phone at the wrong time/place.
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My phone gets really hot from some games but never Netflix, that's odd
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clor01 said:
My phone got really hot only top left of the phone when I played blood and glory. Pretty weird. When I exit the game it cools back down like nothing ever happened. =\ I'm thinking I just got the phone at the wrong time/place.
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Lol no its called welcome to the laws of physics. Electricity generates heat...
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Lol no its called welcome to the laws of physics. Electricity generates heat...
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Nothing is perfectly efficient, and a product of inefficiency is heat! The more power you use the more heat that's generated. Just like on a computer, the more CPU/GPU intensive things you do the more your computer will warm up.
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Thought maybe it was the phone itself.
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When I watch Netflix, I would say it gets a little warm - but I would certainly not call it hot.
Possibly another program(s) running in the background consuming additional resources?
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The only time Netflix has heated up my phone was when playing on my TV over a MHL adapter, while charging, and pulling the video over data. Normally when I just watch on the phone, using wifi it doesn't heat up.
But as others said, that's a lot of power, and I expected some heat. Even at that set up, it wasn't hot enough to worry me.
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Alright what governor r u guys using? I'm using smartass2 and although I het excellent batt life when screen is off, it is a bit choppy and not as smooth as I would like.and it drains fairly fast when screen is on or plating angry birds for like 5 mins. I'm looking for something that's a good balance between smoothness and most importantly battery.
any ideas?
Try intellidemand. I have had good luck with it
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Try intellidemand. I have had good luck with it
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just switched to it.... whats ur battery and screen time?
Ive been using intellidemand.. works great when I want it to work like ondemand.. but scales up slower when I need it to I.e. text, email.. but playing games and surfing web it scales up faster like on-demand..
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Ive been using intellidemand.. works great when I want it to work like ondemand.. but scales up slower when I need it to I.e. text, email.. but playing games and surfing web it scales up faster like on-demand..
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have you set any special permaiters or anything? whats ur batt stats?
I use Wheatley. I usually get about 2h 15m to 2h 30m of screen time with the stock battery. No special tweaking to the parameters or anything either, just set it and you're good to go.
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just switched to it.... whats ur battery and screen time?
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This was today with lots of texting and some youtube and ESPN.
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I usually get 15 hours or so with 1:45-2 hoes screen time at best. This is on chingys 1.2 with global firmware and radios.
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I use Wheatley. I usually get about 2h 15m to 2h 30m of screen time with the stock battery. No special tweaking to the parameters or anything either, just set it and you're good to go.
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ive used lionheart, and it drained the batter SO fast. ima give wheatly a try on monday and intidemand tomorrow. compare the 2 results i guess lol
Battery stats on intellidemand are ok.. I'm a heavy user tho I use another OEM battery and an external charger and switch out thru the day.. I get about 1.5-2.0 hrs of screen time in about a 9-12hr period depending on what I'm doing.. sometimes I'll wake up and drain it dead in an hour and a half (dl, surfing, forums, texts few calls) I'm undervolted -50mv across the board. And set at 1.56ghz on viperrez using dsbs kernel..
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Battery stats on intellidemand are ok.. I'm a heavy user tho I use another OEM battery and an external charger and switch out thru the day.. I get about 1.5-2.0 hrs of screen time in about a 9-12hr period depending on what I'm doing.. sometimes I'll wake up and drain it dead in an hour and a half (dl, surfing, forums, texts few calls) I'm undervolted -50mv across the board. And set at 1.56ghz on viperrez using dsbs kernel..
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damn.... lol ima try wheatly and see how it is.... maybe ill switch to One xxxx rom
Going to ask the noob question, how do I get more governors?
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Going to ask the noob question, how do I get more governors?
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flash a kernel that has them. DSB is the one that i know of that has a lot of them.
now what govoner takes FULL advantage of both cores and focus sololy on preformace one that i can use for hardcore gaming
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now what govoner takes FULL advantage of both cores and focus sololy on preformace one that i can use for hardcore gaming
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It's called performance...
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It's called performance...
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no. preformace hasent turned on the 2nd core for me, also since it runs at max frequency all the time, and dosent scale down, unnessarly heat and ussage from the cpu builds up and cooks it. should only be uses for benchmarking IMO
Next noobish question. It's easy to find it in AOSP, but I can't find the governors in Sense ROMs. I'm currently using ViperRez.
Smartassv2 on ziggy kernel. Went about 15+ hrs with 2+ screen on hrs OC'd @ 1.8. I also tethered ALOT during the screen off period and ran multiple benchmarks. Stock battery
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no. preformace hasent turned on the 2nd core for me, also since it runs at max frequency all the time, and dosent scale down, unnessarly heat and ussage from the cpu builds up and cooks it. should only be uses for benchmarking IMO
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If you're using DSB's kernel (I am), his latest has pegasusq governor on it. It seems to turn on the 2nd core more often. I use system tuner pro and CPU Usage Monitor. CPU usage monitor allows you to put icons on the notification bar showing CPU speed AND cpu utilization for both cores. So you can see whats going on. Also system tuner allows you to 'force' the second core on. You can do this with Ondemand with good results. IMO
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If you're using DSB's kernel (I am), his latest has pegasusq governor on it. It seems to turn on the 2nd core more often. I use system tuner pro and CPU Usage Monitor. CPU usage monitor allows you to put icons on the notification bar showing CPU speed AND cpu utilization for both cores. Also system tuner allows you to 'force' the second core on. You can do this with Ondemand with good results. IMO
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it hasent work with me.... every time i force all cores online, the 2nd one still just shuts off auto mtcicallly. i just gavce up on that, but yea im thinking pegasusq will be best shot. or interactice for both gaming.
Since the 4.1.1 update on my s3 i have been having problems with playing and just simply using my s3 while playing games it usually geta really hot at the back bottom and kinda worries me so i stop playing and kill tasks etc clear ram and eventually it helps, the thing is before the update im sure this didnt happen.
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Since the 4.1.1 update on my s3 i have been having problems with playing and just simply using my s3 while playing games it usually geta really hot at the back bottom and kinda worries me so i stop playing and kill tasks etc clear ram and eventually it helps, the thing is before the update im sure this didnt happen.
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It's normal since the glass and back are really thin (its usually at the bottom of phone), mine does the same if you use it a lot and have the screen kept on
Nothing to worry about.
I would check your battety stats though and look for something called media, this scans your media making your s3 bit hot.
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Hi i would like to share my exp. Before . After flashing jb for europe and poland my phone have unusual heat at the back.and the camera becomes fluffy.. I was worried i tot it was the jb for my s3 made in france... After i saw jb region: france ... I flash it was the right jb for my phone....
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You're right. When looking at tje screen its the bottom right in the back of the phone. I would assume it to be due to project butter amd a forced constant fps
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Now i can only feel a warm when playing games... When surfing no warm
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Hi i would like to share my exp. Before . After flashing jb for europe and poland my phone have unusual heat at the back.and the camera becomes fluffy.. I was worried i tot it was the jb for my s3 made in france... After i saw jb region: france ... I flash it was the right jb for my phone....
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That has practically nothing to do with it...
Placebo, they call it.
THANKS GUYS!! was just worried really lol
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It's the CPU that's heating up, that's near the bottom of the phone, unless the temp is in the 70s (celcius) there is nothing to worry about. The CPU will automatically throttle itself if it gets too hot (can't remember the exact value on the Exynos 4400, someone will though)
If you overclock it will heat up more, demanding activities like playing games etc will heat it up more.
If you are really concerned you can download System Tuner, then in there go to settings, and choose notification packages, then you can download the temperature package, and enable it, this will show live updates showing the temperature of the CPU in the notification bar. System Tuner can be used as root to overclock etc, but to show information like frequency and temperature it does not require root.
If. Downgraded the phone and stopped it what would be the disadvantages performance wise?
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Normal.
Just be glad it isn't an iPhone 4 or iPad 2, otherwise it would have self-combusted in your hands.
My S III gets REALLY hot when playing Asphalt 7, to the point of getting artifacts in the screen and eventually crashing the device.
I really don't care much about it. It is under warranty, so if I get any damage from that I'll harass Samsung so much they'll have to give me a new one.
When my phone was on ICS i never felt it getting warm while browsing the web, checking emails and changing system settings. Since upgraded to JB, I've noticed the phone was getting warm at the bottom (near the charging connector) 10 minutes after performing the above activities. The heat was definitely generated by the CPU, not the battery.
I used an app called Temp+CPU V2 from the Play Store to check CPU temperature. When the phone is on idle it hovers at around 25 degrees; after 10 minutes of use it goes up to around 35-38 degrees. By this point i can feel the bottom part of the phone was getting quite warm.
Can you guys test this and confirm whether your phones are behaving similar to mine?
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When my phone was on ICS i never felt it getting warm while browsing the web, checking emails and changing system settings. Since upgraded to JB, I've noticed the phone was getting warm at the bottom (near the charging connector) 10 minutes after performing the above activities. The heat was definitely generated by the CPU, not the battery.
I used an app called Temp+CPU V2 from the Play Store to check CPU temperature. When the phone is on idle it hovers at around 25 degrees; after 10 minutes of use it goes up to around 35-38 degrees. By this point i can feel the bottom part of the phone was getting quite warm.
Can you guys test this and confirm whether your phones are behaving similar to mine?
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Do you have power saving on or off?
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Do you have power saving on or off?
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I've tried both ON and OFF. Makes little difference.
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I've tried both ON and OFF. Makes little difference.
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Does for me, having it on uses less cpu making my s3 less hot but having it off can notice a big difference especially playing games and using internet.
My s3 just suffers from warmness now.
Up to you though
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I was thinking ****ing it just downgrade it in the interest of the phones safety etc lol and wait till they release an update for project butter or jb etc etc... to finally sort this dam problem it it's probably nothing big but it does cause worries I always ha've mine on power save but it stays the same heat with games etc
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You got a quadcore device in your hands. And it has no cooling whatsoever. So there's no wonder it gets hot when used. Especially playing games or similar stuff.
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first of all, sorry for my bad english. i just recently bought a samsung s3 i747, from amazon. since i have the phone, it gets really hot... even when im not using it. the normal cpu temp is 43* celcius.. and when is charging it cant be at 55 degrees... i cant returen the prhone to the seller because im in Venezuela and is a problem to send it. anyone could help me? what should i do?
when my samsung s3 gt19300 heats up, the screen is nolonger sensitive what could the problem be
I bought the game. Btw
When I play the game, my device heats up and just wondering if there is a app for showing the CPU temp. And what is the safe zone for the CPU? But I really need that app its not only mc4 but that my main question. I played for 2 hours straight, ended up with 12% battery and the phone felt very hot.
EDIT: for anyone wishing to find out their CPU temp, buy SET CPU and place the widget on your homescreen.
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These games are really GPU intensive so my bet is you slow down your gaming. I mean take breaks from time to time. App, I don't know any but you may find it and it may need root. Plus do you have a case on? If yes then it is one of the reasons why your phone is heating up so much. Can you also specify the position where the Phone feels the hottest.
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These games are really GPU intensive so my bet is you slow down your gaming. I mean take breaks from time to time. App, I don't know any but you may find it and it may need root. Plus do you have a case on? If yes then it is one of the reasons why your phone is heating up so much. Can you also specify the position where the Phone feels the hottest.
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mine heats up from bottom
Taimur Akmal said:
These games are really GPU intensive so my bet is you slow down your gaming. I mean take breaks from time to time. App, I don't know any but you may find it and it may need root. Plus do you have a case on? If yes then it is one of the reasons why your phone is heating up so much. Can you also specify the position where the Phone feels the hottest.
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my phone heats up in the bottom right. I don't use a case, i am fully rooted and have a custom rom. i don't have any way to read what temperature my phone is heating up to but at a guess, i would say around 50 C or something i don't know My old s1 actually plays the game smoother than my s3!!!! i think the heat is throttling it. i haven't overclocked my phone.
The processor is at the bottom so it will definitely heat up there.
The best thing you can do is to take a break when playing for a long time. Don't charge when playing, turn power saving off when playing (works for me).
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The processor is at the bottom so it will definitely heat up there.
The best thing you can do is to take a break when playing for a long time. Don't charge when playing, turn power saving off when playing (works for me).
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never have power saving on! and never charge my phone while playing.
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never have power saving on! and never charge my phone while playing.
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Knowing gameloft, the game is probably not optimized.
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I'm having no trouble playing MC4 for many hours.. Charging just makes a little warmer than it normally would be. Something happened one time when it went really hot, but cooling it down and reboot, and nothing happened ever since. I'm pretty sure there's a monitoring widget app on play store, but there's a menu in SetCPU that shows current battery level and temperature.
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Knowing gameloft, the game is probably not optimized.
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No sh!t, gayloft basically hate android Nova 3 has better graphics then mc4 and that runs buttery smooth and doesn't make me heat up. Gayloft are simply apple fanboys. Even though android has more downloads a hour for mc4
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I'm having no trouble playing MC4 for many hours.. Charging just makes a little warmer than it normally would be. Something happened one time when it went really hot, but cooling it down and reboot, and nothing happened ever since. I'm pretty sure there's a monitoring widget app on play store, but there's a menu in SetCPU that shows current battery level and temperature.
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Hope this shows. I used setcpu to set this. Stweaks to oc gpu up to 600mhz
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Hope this shows. I used setcpu to set this. Stweaks to oc gpu up to 600mhz
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thanks! i just got set CPU and i set them in and BAM! phone won't get hot! also the widget has cpu temp! YAY! thanks mate!
Glad everything's sorted
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Glad everything's sorted
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yep will do, just a few last things, i modified the UV a bit. My phone started to crash alot so i changed them a bit. for 3 hours of gaming my CPU went up to 50C still kinda warm but hey, it quadcore. to keep it at 30C or 24C idle you would need a water cooler. LOL
Ah yeah. My settings are a bit low.. Stable enough but hey every device is different. Rarely felt my battery warm to the extent I go oh it's hot. Good luck with mc4.
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Is it possible that force gpu rendering,in developers settings, may heat up a device faster while playing, rather than keeping it disabled?
Ok so i know that this could be posted before and i apologize for not searching but im on vacation and net speed is awful. So whenever im playing real racing 3 my phone heats up like an oven..And is it because of excessive cpu and gpu work or just that game isnt optimised enough?
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Any 3d game will heat the phone, it can damage the battery.
it because of excessive cpu and gpu work
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it because of excessive cpu and gpu work
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Ok so i know that this could be posted before and i apologize for not searching but im on vacation and net speed is awful. So whenever im playing real racing 3 my phone heats up like an oven..And is it because of excessive cpu and gpu work or just that game isnt optimised enough?
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try installing custom rom and undervolt your CPU and GPU just little bit if your phone is rooted... It might help.