Will be possible in the future to change it? also right now is divided by system/apps/data, would be possible to change it to system/data and use the same partion for apps and data?.
The system partion is now about 2gb isn`t too much for ICS how much can weight a normal system?
Not really, it's hardcoded in the bootloader. 2GB will be enough for any android version. AOSP ICS is about 200mb, Sony's version is about 400.
Well 2GB is too much, we don`t have SD card slot on Xperia U so is not like we can waste memory, such a shame that we cannot change the partions, thx for the reply.
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Hello anybody who can help me and other people understanding what we see in applications which show memory info.
I want to understand why "meminfo" shows total RAM 335Mb and Internal phone storage: 420Mb (it is on my phone).
Official info from http://developer.sonyericsson.com/wportal/devworld/phones/phone-overview/xperia-mini-pro?cc=gb&lc=en says it should be the next:
- Internal phone storage: up to 320 MB
- RAM: 512MB !!!
One of my thoughts is that the part of memory is used by video-card
Please explain me why it happens
Some is dedicated to the graphic and some more is reserved from the system. The total is 512, don't worry.
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Think of the Android Operating System as a Virtual Machine on your phone. It needs some RAM in order to work.
dumraden said:
Think of the Android Operating System as a Virtual Machine on your phone. It needs some RAM in order to work.
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Can you modify the values besides a VM usage ram ?
No. What you need in order to have more "system memory" which actually is part of the RAM itself is swap. Swap creates a partition on your sd card which then is used by the system to store temporary data. The thing is that its a double edged knife. NAND is 100 times faster than your typical SD card, so loading apps and/or part of the system on your swap partition might end up in a slower overall phone. But we wont have such a problem with our devices, because the system itself doesnt take all that much storage itself.
The only device so far that i know, which had a problem with storage was the Desire Z i own, when you wanted to flash a custom sense 3.0 rom. Then it needed different partitioning in order for the Sense 3.0 to fit into the device.(the device isnt a sense 3.0 device by default).
If you have many apps that you cant seem to fit in the 320mb of free memory, i recommend you install an app2sd application.
I want to create a second partition on my Xperia S in order to use Link2sd. Most of the help I can find are about using Minitool partition wizard. But Minitool does not work for me for some unknown reason. It just can not find the Xperia S.
Has anybody experience about that? Could you please tell how you did? I have rooted my phone but the bootloader is still locked.
i think we dont need to use the link2sd cause we have already a big size of storage. link2sd is useful when u have a external sdcard and your phone internal memory is @ small size, like my coby tablet it was only 8G then i bought a 16G external sdcard then i used link2sd. .
mharckk said:
i think we dont need to use the link2sd cause we have already a big size of storage. link2sd is useful when u have a external sdcard and your phone internal memory is @ small size, like my coby tablet it was only 8G then i bought a 16G external sdcard then i used link2sd. .
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Thanks for your reply.
My thought was to increase the amount of free RAM which is often very limited on Xperia S although the internal memory is enough (we don't even have the option to install en external SD). I think that Link2sd could reduce the occupied volume in RAM, but I could also have misunderstand it.
Best regards
HasseY said:
Thanks for your reply.
My thought was to increase the amount of free RAM which is often very limited on Xperia S although the internal memory is enough (we don't even have the option to install en external SD). I think that Link2sd could reduce the occupied volume in RAM, but I could also have misunderstand it.
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Link2sd will not help. Empty RAM is wasted RAM.
K900 said:
Link2sd will not help. Empty RAM is wasted RAM.
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I am new on this, it is very possible that I got it all wrong.
As what I understand, the Xperia S has a limited volume of the internal memory reserved for installation of apps although the total volume of the flash memory in the phone is much larger. In that case it sould be a great help if there is a way to move more effectively away the apps/programs from the reserved volume to the flash memory. I suppose that is what the Link2sd should do.
Talking about the wasted RAM, I guess there is space for discussions here. As I said above, I am new in this area and it is best that I don't say too much stupid staff. But I have never heard people say that the money which are not used are wasted money.
Regards
HasseY said:
I am new on this, it is very possible that I got it all wrong.
As what I understand, the Xperia S has a limited volume of the internal memory reserved for installation of apps although the total volume of the flash memory in the phone is much larger. In that case it sould be a great help if there is a way to move more effectively away the apps/programs from the reserved volume to the flash memory. I suppose that is what the Link2sd should do.
Talking about the wasted RAM, I guess there is space for discussions here. As I said above, I am new in this area and it is best that I don't say too much stupid staff. But I have never heard people say that the money which are not used are wasted money.
Regards
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You have 2GB for apps, and all game data is still stored on the virtual sdcard. I can run about 200 apps with no issues. About RAM: you shouldn't bother about free RAM, all RAM is used for your apps and it'll be freed in under .5 seconds when it's needed.
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XPERIA P
HasseY said:
I want to create a second partition on my Xperia S in order to use Link2sd. Most of the help I can find are about using Minitool partition wizard. But Minitool does not work for me for some unknown reason. It just can not find the Xperia S.
Has anybody experience about that? Could you please tell how you did? I have rooted my phone but the bootloader is still locked.
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I want to create a second partition on my Xperia P in order to use Link2sd. Most of the help I can find are about using Minitool partition wizard. But Minitool does not work for me for some unknown reason. It just can not find the Xperia P.
Has anybody experience about that? Could you please tell how you did? I have rooted my phone but the bootloader is Unlocked.
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By using an application that use the mass storage mode I can see the partition in Minitool.
Is there any risk to brick the phone if change the partition size of the emulated sd card ?
zuifon said:
By using an application that use the mass storage mode I can see the partition in Minitool.
Is there any risk to brick the phone if change the partition size of the emulated sd card ?
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I want to know if it is possible to divide without brick. Some applications use the spacer of a large internal memory.
I have an Xperia P but it only comes with 2GB of space to install apps and games
link2sd doesn't work here because this phone lack of MicroSd
I have seen that for xperia s/t made a mod that makes a larger partition for apps
and I really wish to know how to have more space for installing apps on this Xperia P (Locked Bootloader)
I've tried Minitool Partition but only corrupts the memory (link2sd doesn't recognize 2nd partition) and ask for a format on the phone, also with CWM partition option
anybody can help me with this ?
Hey there everyone,
I've got a question that im impatient to know if its possible or not :
The Xperia U has a total of 6GB for personal use. 2GB for apps and 4GB for Data.
Can we trade between those 2 sections ? What i mean is :
Can i configure the phone (somehow) to have 1GB for apps and 5GB for Data ?
For me,2GB for apps is excessive and 4GB for Data is a bit low so tradeing 1GB between them would make it perfectly balanced.
Anyone know if its possible ?o.o
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xtrmshadow said:
Hey there everyone,
I've got a question that im impatient to know if its possible or not :
The Xperia U has a total of 6GB for personal use. 2GB for apps and 4GB for Data.
Can we trade between those 2 sections ? What i mean is :
Can i configure the phone (somehow) to have 1GB for apps and 5GB for Data ?
For me,2GB for apps is excessive and 4GB for Data is a bit low so tradeing 1GB between them would make it perfectly balanced.
Anyone know if its possible ?o.o
Respect
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should be possible if the partition can be edited...have been digging on the same doubt for quite a while now....i think it can be done.
Rom manager app has an option for partitioning sd card but never used it
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Thanks for making this question.
It would be really cool if someone helps out on this.
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I tried a few apps like Rom Manager ,andromizer and more but nope,its not gonna work.
I've been reading around tho that people who needed to enlarge the App internal memory ,could do it by repartitioning the Data partition and use a few scripts.
Also there is another solution which is copy the files to /system/app and "Directory Link" them to a false one on the SD card,but thats a pain.
Problem is none of those seem to work ,i tried linking directories but nope wont work. Also repartitioning the Data Partition means formatting the current ROM which i cant really do as i need my phone intact with all the info/apps/config that it has atm,not to mention we dont even know if that would work because all of those reparitioning use SDCard's and its ment to EXPAND/Enlarge the App Internal Memory...not reduce it (which is what we want).
*confused*
Somebody please throw light in here!
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Please Help! regarding this
You need a kernel with a partition editor in the ramdisk (the Ace 2 CM10.2 has parted, I'd prefer (also) having gdisk as it isn't limited to creating partitions in order -- that's sufficient on the Samsung, can't say if it could work on the Sony without seeing a partitions dump first), a ROM in zip format (if you want to resize /system too), a computer with ADB and a calculator
xtrmshadow said:
Hey there everyone,
I've got a question that im impatient to know if its possible or not :
The Xperia U has a total of 6GB for personal use. 2GB for apps and 4GB for Data.
Can we trade between those 2 sections ? What i mean is :
Can i configure the phone (somehow) to have 1GB for apps and 5GB for Data ?
For me,2GB for apps is excessive and 4GB for Data is a bit low so tradeing 1GB between them would make it perfectly balanced.
Anyone know if its possible ?o.o
Respect
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You can using partition resizer program posted by munjeni somewhere in forum just note do not touch 1-9 partition just mmcblk0p10 (this one is system,then goes data,cache etc) and after you find what you need,delete them and make new ones.
Not problem really.
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Hi all,
I've just received my HTC desire x, checking the specs there is written
that the internal memory should be 4GB, but I have just 1GB.
the total space shows 1.09 GB (screenshot attached)
on the HTC website there's written
Total storage: 4 GB, available capacity varies*
and then *Available storage is less due to phone software.
Is it possible that the OS takes 3GB? Seems a bit too much for me...
Any idea?
Thanks all in advance
crazypixel said:
Hi all,
I've just received my HTC desire x, checking the specs there is written
that the internal memory should be 4GB, but I have just 1GB.
the total space shows 1.09 GB (screenshot attached)
on the HTC website there's written
Total storage: 4 GB, available capacity varies*
and then *Available storage is less due to phone software.
Is it possible that the OS takes 3GB? Seems a bit too much for me...
Any idea?
Thanks all in advance
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This is correct man. There is no issue or problem. The system takes ~3gb. Cos imagine when you are factory resetting your phone. The original OS file (called ROM) will reside in that memory with a whole lot of other backup stuff which you cant access.
This is why ppl use CUSTOM ROMS, cos we remove bloatware and other things.
What you see in that screenshot is same as mine and as other. Just buy an external card and it will rock
and please go to about > software update > PRESS CHECK NOW even though "Scheduled Check" is ticked cos there are updates and possibly u have one waiting also.
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This is correct man. There is no issue or problem. The system takes ~3gb. Cos imagine when you are factory resetting your phone. The original OS file (called ROM) will reside in that memory with a whole lot of other backup stuff which you cant access.
This is why ppl use CUSTOM ROMS, cos we remove bloatware and other things.
What you see in that screenshot is same as mine and as other. Just buy an external card and it will rock
and please go to about > software update > PRESS CHECK NOW even though "Scheduled Check" is ticked cos there are updates and possibly u have one waiting also.
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^ +1.
anyway i cant see why 1gb isnt enough for apps and games. if you have a sd card, it will be more than enough because of the ability to move apps to sd.
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ayyu3m said:
This is correct man. There is no issue or problem. The system takes ~3gb. Cos imagine when you are factory resetting your phone. The original OS file (called ROM) will reside in that memory with a whole lot of other backup stuff which you cant access.
This is why ppl use CUSTOM ROMS, cos we remove bloatware and other things.
What you see in that screenshot is same as mine and as other. Just buy an external card and it will rock
and please go to about > software update > PRESS CHECK NOW even though "Scheduled Check" is ticked cos there are updates and possibly u have one waiting also.
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Thanks man all doubts vanished now,
does it mean that once rooted (I haven't seen any good rom around yet, please advise if you know any)
I can partition the internal memory? Or it's better not to partition anything for a smoother and faster phone?
Thanks again
Yes 4GB in these mount points:
dev - 303MB
cache - 251MB
data 1,1GB
internal memory (emmc) - 1,1GB
system/942MB
Plus a few more like radio boot and / mount point. It's up around 4GB.
i think you want this? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.buak.Link2SD
with that app. you will no longer have to worry about low internal storage again. i use that all the time on my previous phone who has low internal memory (400mb below). but with des x i dont need it. 1gb internal memory are a lot!
nlooooo said:
Yes 4GB in these mount points:
dev - 303MB
cache - 251MB
data 1,1GB
internal memory (emmc) - 1,1GB
system/942MB
Plus a few more like radio boot and / mount point. It's up around 4GB.
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Is it possible to reformat partitions? Why not to have internal memory (emmc) - 1,1GB and system/942MB merged? I'm not using emmc, cuz I have SDCard for all my stuff, so 1,1 Gb are empty, but I have insufficient space on system.
Hi there,
I'm sticking with the oos rom...works ok no issues and no big needs for ultra customization.
but.
16Gb are not nough and since I dont' want to sacrifice apps, I'm looking for the rom that need less space on the internal memory...to free some space once installed...
are all the rom made equal?
Tnx guys!
pakgio said:
Hi there,
I'm sticking with the oos rom...works ok no issues and no big needs for ultra customization.
but.
16Gb are not nough and since I dont' want to sacrifice apps, I'm looking for the rom that need less space on the internal memory...to free some space once installed...
are all the rom made equal?
Tnx guys!
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It doesn't really make a difference. Get a micro SD card and use it to expand your storage.
I know I can use an SD and I do use an SD but actually on the internal memory there are 7gb of apps 3,26gb of other and less than 1gb of images, video audio and cache data.
the apps installed are not apps that I can move on the sd.
pakgio said:
I know I can use an SD and I do use an SD but actually on the internal memory there are 7gb of apps 3,26gb of other and less than 1gb of images, video audio and cache data.
the apps installed are not apps that I can move on the sd.
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Well, what you bought is what you got.
Opx has only 16Gb int. memory which only left available less than 12Gb.
Doesn't matter if you flash N custom ROMs, it only has slightly different size (without inbuilt Gapps package). If you're so curious then go for stock AOSP/Pure Nexus ROMs which only has stock/less features.
Weird to me, what kind of apps/games installed on yours so your lack of memory? (seemed so).
I've 70 apps installed with only 1 game, and i still have plenty of memory left.
*If you're on rooted device then just delete any unwanted system apps/services using ES file explorer or kinda. Although that only free small amount of sizes in system memory.
So the trick is: Do not install way too many apps/games that eats memory a lot.
pakgio said:
I know I can use an SD and I do use an SD but actually on the internal memory there are 7gb of apps 3,26gb of other and less than 1gb of images, video audio and cache data.
the apps installed are not apps that I can move on the sd.
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Get one of the nougat ROMs(I highly recommend Paranoid Android), format your SD card as internal storage and you won't have to worry about filling your internal storage up.
aryan.arora180 said:
Get one of the nougat ROMs(I highly recommend Paranoid Android), format your SD card as internal storage and you won't have to worry about filling your internal storage up.
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Hi Pune, did you try this approach? have you hever noticed any problem( slow down glitch anything) using apps from sd?
I'm really happy with my onyx, the only downside is the free memory....
pakgio said:
I know I can use an SD and I do use an SD but actually on the internal memory there are 7gb of apps 3,26gb of other and less than 1gb of images, video audio and cache data.
the apps installed are not apps that I can move on the sd.
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You can root your OOS > remove all the bloat ( saves approx. 400MB) unroot ( if your not into having your device rooted) and perhaps move those image/video files to exSD.
Flashing a custom rom will probably save you 500 MB including gapps.
The smallest ROM right now would be AOSP-CAF
If you ask smallest rom in size it would be Slimrom, but it doesn't matter, since rom along with all system apps installed on system partition, system partition taking space from internal storage, IINM onyx has fixed 2 gb system partition built in...
Your only option is root your device, bought a micro sdcard and use apps called app2sd, link2sd or foldermount or some apps similar like that.
pakgio said:
Hi Pune, did you try this approach? have you hever noticed any problem( slow down glitch anything) using apps from sd?
I'm really happy with my onyx, the only downside is the free memory....
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No I've not had any noticeable performance slow downs when using the SD card. However, do find a reliable ROM that does not have bugs when doing so. For that I'd recommend PureNexus despite the fact that it hasn't been updated for a while. It has been the stablest ROM I've seen so far with Onyx.
The size of the ROM doesn't matter. The device has a separate partition for it anyway. You could have a 600mb ROM and it would be no more intrusive than a ROM that's 300mb.
Another thing, using a ROM with more features does not mean you will suffer from a performance deficit. Enabling some of these features could however have an impact on battery life.
If the features themselves do have a performance impact then I think the ROM team needs to question why they implemented it in the first place.
At the end of the day, they all use the same partition so there's no use in worrying about it
pakgio said:
Hi there,
I'm sticking with the oos rom...works ok no issues and no big needs for ultra customization.
but.
16Gb are not nough and since I dont' want to sacrifice apps, I'm looking for the rom that need less space on the internal memory...to free some space once installed...
are all the rom made equal?
Tnx guys!
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Use Modded OOS, in that way you have both the original OOS with all the extra things removed by default and you would've 6-7 GB free space available on your internal memory. I am also using it. Give it a try
you should move to a custom ROM. They are very good and will save you many GBs of storage and RAM