Hi guys, I'm really confused. I understand the differences between gsm and cdma. What I dont get is how we can have safestrap for cdma but not gsm. Surely this is the better solution for recoveries?
Am I missing something or are we (gsm owners) missing out? I really want to try some custom roms but can't help but think I'm in the poo if something goes wrong.
Any ideas?
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MarkyG82 said:
Hi guys, I'm really confused. I understand the differences between gsm and cdma. What I dont get is how we can have safestrap for cdma but not gsm. Surely this is the better solution for recoveries?
Am I missing something or are we (gsm owners) missing out? I really want to try some custom roms but can't help but think I'm in the poo if something goes wrong.
Any ideas?
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Its just a naming differ. To GSM razr CWM is called bootstrap.
Cheers
But what I have read is that safestrap and bootstrap are different setups.
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Its not just a name difference.
Safestrap works very differently than Razr Bootstrap even though both are based on Koush's CWM recovery.
Safestrap loads a "Safe" system to the /preinstall partition so that the "unsafe" stock system remains untouched by any modifications.
The reason that it is not compatible with the XT910 is because the /preinstall partition is much smaller than the XT912 and there is not room to put the safe system on it.
That explains it alot better.
So, the only option we have is bootstrap. In that case, how reliable is the boot to cwm script? I just feel a touch nervous coming from htc and samsung devices where the recovery partition was very reliable and hard to mess the phone up.
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MarkyG82 said:
That explains it alot better.
So, the only option we have is bootstrap. In that case, how reliable is the boot to cwm script? I just feel a touch nervous coming from htc and samsung devices where the recovery partition was very reliable and hard to mess the phone up.
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It's pretty decent I guess. I've had a ton of times where I've entered bootloop, and CWM on boot really helped. It only doesn't work when you do stupid stuff (like format /system ), but there's always fastbooting.
Just make sure you READ through the posts properly, and you should be fine.
Thanks. I feel alot better now.
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A safer bootstrap for GSM/CDMA is coming soon.
I'm working on it right now. I'll try to make it available as soon as ICS is official.
Thats great. Ill hold off doing anything beyond rooting then. Stock ics looks like it'll be really nice anyway. I've been teaching myself various code basics so I'm going to try cook a rom myself. Stripped down aosp of some sort.
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whirleyes said:
A safer bootstrap for GSM/CDMA is coming soon.
I'm working on it right now. I'll try to make it available as soon as ICS is official.
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I could say: "Something big is comming!"
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I could say: "Something big is comming!"
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I second that
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Thread title explains it. I've only ever used CWM and I'm not familiar with AmonRa. What's different about it, and does it work more or less the same as CWM?
Thanks!
Super
I think its pretty much the same from my exp...i rly wish my data would stop droppin so i can reply lol
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They are pretty much the same. Amonra has a couple cool features. For example, it can root a stock rom from recovery
Didn't know about it being able to root a stock Rom. Thank you sir
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Me either lol nvr heard of it
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I didn't know either until I was looking through it. It worked great and took 5 seconds. It is in the development section of recovery under mounts and stuff
Cool. Thanks for the info.
So are Rom images formatted for one or the other, or can you use them interchangeably? I'm sure we'll end up seeing CWM soon so I'm curious.
Thanks!
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Overview:
This is basically a ROM I made when I was bored.
It is based off of Pepperm1nt's [ROM][GB 2.3.4]GingerBread Phone 7 v0.4
I replaced some of the apps with MIUI apps such as
MIUI launcher
MIUI Music
MIUI Browser
I am not sure this ROM will work or flash so flash at your own risk
I am not responsible for any damage to your phone. Use at your own discretion
How to install
Must be on 2.3.4 NOT 2.3.5
Install bootstrap
Reboot into bootstrap recovery
Wipe data/cache
Flash this ROM
Link: http://www.mediafire.com/?tl6959kv4fcz438
Im sorry but ill be the first one to chime in. You're putting up a ROM you didn't test yourself?
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Well judging by how he has written the description, it should flash, if all he did was replace apks from miui to this rom. However a test would help peoples feelings lol
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This should work almost flawless. I've played with all three apps he added on Molten and they worked well. Should not be an issue. Just wondering but did you ask Pepperm1nt if it was ok to use his rom? No big deal if you did Something to play with, thanks.
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no i didnt ask pepperm1int
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This should work almost flawless. I've played with all three apps he added on Molten and they worked well. Should not be an issue. Just wondering but did you ask Pepperm1nt if it was ok to use his rom? No big deal if you did Something to play with, thanks.
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Preciate about the info
It's fine to use the base. The OP needs updated to give pix of the ROM and thanks for clarifying where the base is from. Let me know if you need anything...
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+1 on the screen shots. Has anyone tried to flash this yet? I find it strange the person that made the rom didn't flash it before posting.
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Am I the only one who was disappointed to realize that this is not an AOSP ROM?
I mean the title is misleading. I thought that this is the first fruition of 2nd init to make AOSP roms.
That's because gbp7 is not aosp based.....
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So, still no takers?
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was it just me or did it not let anyone else past the 'account' page? it wouldnt take me to my home to where i could set up my recovery so i had to sbf, so nice try OP, but i recommend you take this and base it off your own rom and get to familiar with the android system so you can take this and and make it your own
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This is only GBphone rom + the MIUI launcher look alike and locker + other look alikes.
Sounds a little weird. No pics of screenshots or even tested? Based off someone elses rom without even asking first. Althoug he did give proper credit and did not try to act like it was his own. I appreciate all development for this phone but have to admit this is a first for me to see The OP even states not sure if this will work lol. Does not give you that warm fuzzy feeling and anxious to flash something new.
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Sounds a little weird. No pics of screenshots or even tested? Based off someone elses rom without even asking first. Althoug he did give proper credit and did not try to act like it was his own. I appreciate all development for this phone but have to admit this is a first for me to see The OP even states not sure if this will work lol. Does not give you that warm fuzzy feeling and anxious to flash something new.
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Gives me the warmest feeling of being excited to be the first to flash something Although not everyone is comfortable doing an SBF.
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Gives me the warmest feeling of being excited to be the first to flash something Although not everyone is comfortable doing an SBF.
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I dont mind doing a sbf. Did plenty when I was getting to eclipse 2.02 when I had root keeper on my phone I do not mean to bash anyone it is just weird the OP says he is not sure if it will work. Also the title I thought was a little misleading thought this was a MIUI rom.
Seems odd to complain about someone cooking up a new option for a phone with so little support. Regardless of the nature of that option, or what you experienced on another phones dev thread.
Thanks Jay, though I wont be using your work its nice to see people working with the x2. And incorporating miui apps / miui lookalike apps is a neat idea for miui fans who can't flash it due to a pesky locked bootloader.
And, I know none of you fine folks intended to come off as ungrateful or complainy (its my word don't steal it ). Its easy for things to be misinterpreted, between thinking about what you want to post, posting, and someone else reading your post with none of the vocal expression you had in mind.
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I want to dual boot on my rezound. However, what Im unsure about is if it is possible to do if the two roms require different kernels. For example if I ran a Gb rom which needs a gb kernel, and then tried to dual boot with a ics rom that needs a ics kernel. Is this possible?
I too am wondering this. I was gonna make a nand of a GB Rom and one of an ICS Rom and switch between them
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I think it can be done. I am actually working on it now.
At first I was like "Uh..why would you want to do that?" but then thinking of how many times I have reinstalled BAMF (4) and tried new ROMS on top of that (4)....
That's a nice idea. I don't see it happening. But a nice idea all the same.
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At first I was like "Uh..why would you want to do that?" but then thinking of how many times I have reinstalled BAMF (4) and tried new ROMS on top of that (4)....
That's a nice idea. I don't see it happening. But a nice idea all the same.
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I am sure it can be done... Just won't be easy
Would the nand idea work since the amon recovery allows you to backup the kernel as well? Just as long as you wipe data when switching between the nands?
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The reason I wanted to do it was because I wanted to be able to toy with the sense 4 roms that are unstable, without having to wipe data install the rom then have to switch back and redo my whole setup since they aren't stable. If we had dual booting the wiping data and resetting can be avoided and I can continue to check the sense 4 roms with ease.
Look for an app named Bootmanager. It will accomplish what you seek
MyColorScreen
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ruvort said:
Look for an app named Bootmanager. It will accomplish what you seek
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Boot manager allows you to boot different profiles using the same ROM, not boot different ROMS.
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Boot manager allows you to boot different profiles using the same ROM, not boot different ROMS.
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No that's not true. It installs a completely separate rom in a partion on your sdcard and you can boot between them. Has nothing to do with profiles.
MyColorScreen
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Market link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.drx2.bootmanager
MyColorScreen
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ruvort said:
No that's not true. It installs a completely separate rom in a partion on your sdcard and you can boot between them. Has nothing to do with profiles.
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I was confusing this with something else, however... from the app page:
REQUIRES
ROOT
S-OFF
There is no S-OFF for the Rezound.
And the Rezound is not on the list of supported devices.
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I was confusing this with something else, however... from the app page:
REQUIRES
ROOT
S-OFF
There is no S-OFF for the Rezound.
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I understand. I actually know the one you were thinking of. Wasn't trying to come off rude or anything
True but I'm showing it for those that would like to try and to show that it is possible.
MyColorScreen
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Yeah it doesn't work with the Rezound (yet). But I am sure it can be done manually.
Something else to look into: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23077931
MyColorScreen
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ruvort said:
Market link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.drx2.bootmanager
MyColorScreen
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Don't you mean "play store link"?
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Bootmanager is being worked on for the Rezound so I have stopped looking into it.
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con247 said:
Bootmanager is being worked on for the Rezound so I have stopped looking into it.
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That would be awesome. I miss bootmanager.
Yes, it does allow you to boot completely different roms. I should know. Im friends with the devs
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con247 said:
I think it can be done. I am actually working on it now.
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How close are you, and what are you trying to dualboot with
IMPORTANT! I'm moving development to android-dev.us, if you want to know, read over there, HOWEVER, I will respond to anything posted over here
http://www.android-dev.us/showthrea...ion-CM7-SelfKang-Alphafied-Number-10-GB-2-3-7
Hey guys, I'm going to try to start to learn android rom development, and thought maybe porting a AOSP rom fromt the sensation would be a cool task to work with. Right now, I think the Sensation is the closest to our Amaze, but it's CM7 build is lacking. Either way, it will be a ton easier to port CM7 than CM9 for a complete noob, but that doesn't mean I don't need your help!
I like to keep an open mind and workflow on stuff (I collaborate musically like this) so anyone willing to help or learn something can hop right in and I would appreciate it!
Some links I'm using for learning / porting:
Code:
It took a while, but I finally tracked down a mirror for the latest and last build of CM7 for the sensation:
[url]http://www.mediafire.com/?tc50rn6qvobj9us[/url]
I'm going to be using this kitchen:
[url]http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=633246[/url]
Found this guid for porting a rom. It's ment to be from CM7 to AOSP from the same phone, but it's worth a shot!
[url]http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1512319[/url]
Along with some really specific files but for another phone, time to do some research :D
[url]http://androidforums.com/optimus-m-all-things-root/515246-guide-porting-lg-vortex-optimus-t-v-s-roms-m.html[/url]
EVEN MORE Porting guides with explanations for some of the files you're moving:
[url]http://androidforums.com/a70-all-things-root/444687-all-one-guide-porting-roms.html[/url]
Some build.prop info:
[url]http://www.blogtechnika.com/android-tweaking-demystified-part-i-build-prop-scripts-android-tweaking-demystified-part-i-build-prop-scripts[/url]
The latest ROM (Updated 3/19/2012) :
http://www.mediafire.com/?5128xikhv7xhdq3
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hmmmm..... does it work with your amaze, since it isn't in the supported list i was holding back on using it
I appreciate you trying... But what makes you think the Amaze and Sensation are similar? From what I've read, Devs say they are COMPLETELY different phones.
Just thought I'd give you a heads up.
Best of luck to you though... I hope you get it working!
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glacierguy said:
I appreciate you trying... But what makes you think the Amaze and Sensation are similar? From what I've read, Devs say they are COMPLETELY different phones.
Just thought I'd give you a heads up.
Best of luck to you though... I hope you get it working!
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They are very different.... thus it has been a pain in the ass to port roms to it, but since you dont have to mess with changing the screen/resolution to match it, it makes it a little easier
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I also just noticed your porting android 2.3.7..........................good luck doing that man may god be with you lol
Ok, yea, the internals are different. So far as I can tell the sensation has an S2 snapdragon and the Amaze has an S3. I don't know if I can even get this thing to boot, but I think it will be a great learning experience nevertheless!
Veras1996 said:
hmmmm..... does it work with your amaze, since it isn't in the supported list i was holding back on using it
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You mean the rom? As of now im just going to try to move some drivers, libs, and kernel around and see what happens.
I got CM9 booting by just editing the build.prop from the sensation ported a ROM think it was CM9 but touch screen and features didn't work.
Diabolic Jr. said:
I got CM9 booting by just editing the build.prop from the sensation ported a ROM think it was CM9 but touch screen and features didn't work.
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Woah! That's quite an accomplishment! You mind helping me with this port then?
And by editing the build prop, did you just pretty much copy the hardward identifiers from a stock ROM from the Amaze?
dubt17 said:
Woah! That's quite an accomplishment! You mind helping me with this port then?
And by editing the build prop, did you just pretty much copy the hardward identifiers from a stock ROM from the Amaze?
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yea, i by editing the build prop you could boot almost any rom, but you take risk of bricking your phone
Veras1996 said:
yea, i by editing the build prop you could boot almost any rom, but you take risk of bricking your phone
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Hmmmm, I'm wondering how bad this risk is? Like will editing the build prop, and keeping an existing kernel brick the phone? Because by my understanding I can ALWAYS boot into the bootloader, then recovery before it even touches the files that I'm injecting
Plus my phones S-ON, not that this means anything, because I have fastboot!
From what I've read, again, there have been 0 bricked s=on Amaze devices. There have been soft bricks, but ppl have always been able to fix in fastboot
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glacierguy said:
From what I've read, again, there have been 0 bricked s=on Amaze devices. There have been soft bricks, but ppl have always been able to fix in fastboot
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Thanks, then back to the dev'n!
I've got a virtual box with ubuntu on it right now, but its hard drive isn't expanding past 8GB like it should be, so I have to figure this out first...
Trying to copy a stock ruu rom for some porting! Just not enough space
Alright, so I used dsixda's kitchen to port over the libs and some files. I then made an attempt to get the update-script to install and it seems as if it went through. Now I'm stuck on the white htc screen. I'm uploading as we speak, if anyone can help I would be grateful!
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Alright, so I used dsixda's kitchen to port over the libs and some files. I then made an attempt to get the update-script to install and it seems as if it went through. Now I'm stuck on the white htc screen. I'm uploading as we speak, if anyone can help I would be grateful!
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There's the soft brick my friend. Try to boot into recovery and restore. If you can't get into recovery, you will have to re-install a recovery using fastboot or adb. You can find the instructions on X's site in Amaze>Development> and find a recovery... It will be labeled "hard way" but its not really hard at all. It's easier than soft bricking your phone
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And this is One of the reason the Amaze lacks development... It's a lil more difficult to dev on... Combine that with s=on and a phone only marketed in North America and you get a ghost town forum
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glacierguy said:
There's the soft brick my friend. Try to boot into recovery and restore. If you can't get into recovery, you will have to re-install a recovery using fastboot or adb. You can find the instructions on X's site in Amaze>Development> and find a recovery... It will be labeled "hard way" but its not really hard at all. It's easier than soft bricking your phone
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Thanks man! But not needed It's just installing to the system partition and one other, but both are active only after the bootloader, so I just hold down the "volume down" button while turning on, scroll to recovery and restore my backup. No trouble at all! In fact, since I'm basing this off the stock kernel, I don't think I need to install one until I can get it booting
Thanks for the help again dude, seriously, get that screen and help me with this
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And this is One of the reason the Amaze lacks development... It's a lil more difficult to dev on... Combine that with s=on and a phone only marketed in North America and you get a ghost town forum
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Really good point too hahahaha, didn't know this was a north american only phone. Dang it, means HTC will try to go through carriers for ICS... I hope they "leak" it before they send it off to T-Mob and such
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Really good point too hahahaha, didn't know this was a north american only phone. Dang it, means HTC will try to go through carriers for ICS... I hope they "leak" it before they send it off to T-Mob and such
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I'm pretty sure there is an XDA member, @Football I think his name is, that works for HTC that leaks the goodies for the devs.
We will be ok.
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So my brother got a limited edition red and black RAZR maxx so it looks like I will be here as well as the Rezound forums . I have never had a motor phone before so I might ask some questions. Any major differences from HTC phones?
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Lots of differences, most of them for the worse. Welcome to the world of locked bootloaders, regional signatures, and easy bricking.
On the plus side, that kevlar back is still pretty *****in'.
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Yes I'm not planning on going with it much simpler because it's my brothers.
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onslaught86 said:
Lots of differences, most of them for the worse. Welcome to the world of locked bootloaders, regional signatures, and easy bricking.
On the plus side, that kevlar back is still pretty *****in'.
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So in your opinion it's fairly easy to brick a RAZR? I understand if you flash cdma rom but I have not seen anyone bricking it?
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Welcome to the forums!
eyriiii said:
So in your opinion it's fairly easy to brick a RAZR? I understand if you flash cdma rom but I have not seen anyone bricking it?
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I'm guessing he means soft-bricking? It's pretty darn easy to do that though. Hard brick, not so much. I once wiped /system and accidentally turned off my phone. Still managed to restore it.
Anyway, welcome to the Razr community. Look around, get your bearings, and start flashing random stuff. My advice? Not everything can be found on xda. So try looking around in other forums and stuff.
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I'm guessing he means soft-bricking? It's pretty darn easy to do that though. Hard brick, not so much. I once wiped /system and accidentally turned off my phone. Still managed to restore it.
Anyway, welcome to the Razr community. Look around, get your bearings, and start flashing random stuff. My advice? Not everything can be found on xda. So try looking around in other forums and stuff.
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I will thanks. Are there serious problems of you end up flashing a gsm rom to a cdma phone or if you flash back will they be fixed? I also thanks everyone for the awesome welcome to the forums
Also, I think phone manufacturer's have perpusly made it hard to brick phones. I know someone one the Rezound forums tried to before we had s-off and couldn't
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I will thanks. Are there serious problems of you end up flashing a gsm rom to a cdma phone or if you flash back will they be fixed? I also thanks everyone for the awesome welcome to the forums
Also, I think phone manufacturer's have perpusly made it hard to brick phones. I know someone one the Rezound forums tried to before we had s-off and couldn't
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Dont flash a gsm rom to cdma. Chances are you could recover but it wont work so its not worth trying
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flashman2002 said:
Dont flash a gsm rom to cdma. Chances are you could recover but it wont work so its not worth trying
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I ment accidentally. Mistakes happen sometimes
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werdna87 said:
I ment accidentally. Mistakes happen sometimes
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The only way that would happen is if you dont read the rom thread. These roms are split out between cdma and gsm. I havent seen one that didnt specify which phone it was for.
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The only way that would happen is if you dont read the rom thread. These roms are split out between cdma and gsm. I havent seen one that didnt specify which phone it was for.
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I know but I have never really had to look before
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Welcome to the best battery life you have ever had. That IS the party piece of the Razr Maxx!
Touch-ee said:
Welcome to the best battery life you have ever had. That IS the party piece of the Razr Maxx!
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Sadly it s not mine It's my brothers so I can't look forward to that Haha. I do love my Rezound though but the battery life is pretty crappy
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