[Q] Differences between AmonRa and CWM? - HTC Rezound

Thread title explains it. I've only ever used CWM and I'm not familiar with AmonRa. What's different about it, and does it work more or less the same as CWM?
Thanks!
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I think its pretty much the same from my exp...i rly wish my data would stop droppin so i can reply lol
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They are pretty much the same. Amonra has a couple cool features. For example, it can root a stock rom from recovery

Didn't know about it being able to root a stock Rom. Thank you sir
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Me either lol nvr heard of it
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I didn't know either until I was looking through it. It worked great and took 5 seconds. It is in the development section of recovery under mounts and stuff

Cool. Thanks for the info.
So are Rom images formatted for one or the other, or can you use them interchangeably? I'm sure we'll end up seeing CWM soon so I'm curious.
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ClockworkMod

Just saw Koush tweeted he picked up a Rezound today. Looks like we'll be seeing an official CWM Recovery soon.
Whoohoo! http://bit.ly/xh3Ano
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Sweet, this means full use of Rom Manager hopefully?
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JC1500 said:
Sweet, this means full use of Rom Manager hopefully?
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most likely since they're usually both integrated together
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We have recovery and touch recovery now, confirmed from his Twitter
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This will be really nice, but since I obtained Root through Amon Ra, switching to CWM maybe a headache. Think I'll wait until ICS update before I change anything on my phone. Still glad to know my paid Rom Manager app will be of some use soon.
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We have recovery and touch recovery now, confirmed from his Twitter
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Hmm , just refreshed twitter and didn't see a new announcement other than the one 13 hours ago saying he picked up a rezound ?..but that sounds great if he is already done .
I am hoping this will also lead to a CM port from him
Ill keep amon ra thanks. Had the evo 4G for 6 months with amon ra. Clockwork just feels cumbersome.
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I don't see anything on his twitter, either. But, I do show Recovery and Touch Recovery options available on his website. I'm assuming this means that support is now official. =)
http://www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager
Edit: I was looking at his personal twitter and not the @clockworkmod feed. Stupid me.. I didn't notice the link in the OP. lol
cobalt8 said:
I don't see anything on his twitter, either. But, I do show Recovery and Touch Recovery options available on his website. I'm assuming this means that support is now official. =)
http://www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager
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hit twitter said that theres touch recovery and recovery in rom manager now for vigor.
It's on the market, thought I'd try it out, caused my phone to bootloop
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so whats the deal on this? it crashes everytime i decide to try it out? any plans for the future
Use amonra or twrp. They are either equal in capability or better.
con247 said:
Use amonra or twrp. They are either equal in capability or better.
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oh i already use something different, was just wondering if there were any plans for the rezound any further. thanks though con.
zounduser said:
oh i already use something different, was just wondering if there were any plans for the rezound any further. thanks though con.
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Idk what happened. We got two builds real quick that had issues. Then nothing.
I'd wait until the charging issue gets addressed, not sure if it has yet with CWM. Its always nice to have more options though.
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I use cwm touch, and found out today that yes it still has charging issues. When I used amon ra I thought I had problems with it, but looking back I don't think that was the issue.
CWM is going the way of WebOS. Yes, that makes me happy. There are far superior alternate recoveries out there. CWM has lived its life in the spotlight but the likes of TWRP and others are slamming CWM to the ground release after release, update after update. Just throwing this out there.
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ProTekk said:
CWM is going the way of WebOS. Yes, that makes me happy. There are far superior alternate recoveries out there. CWM has lived its life in the spotlight but the likes of TWRP and others are slamming CWM to the ground release after release, update after update. Just throwing this out there.
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You are totally right...didn't think I would believe that statement until I tried TWRP. Thank you con for porting that amazing recovery!
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CWM is going the way of WebOS. Yes, that makes me happy. There are far superior alternate recoveries out there. CWM has lived its life in the spotlight but the likes of TWRP and others are slamming CWM to the ground release after release, update after update. Just throwing this out there.
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hrm.
I use recovery to factory reset, wipe cache, and flash roms. I'd wager that's what 95% of people use them for. What is there left to be done in recovery development that can slam another recovery to the ground, when it does the 3 things everyone uses it for?
Aside from the dead battery charging issue in CWM, the only thing I see in Amon that's handy is rebooting back to bootloader.
I'm sure I must be missing something - something I don't need, but is apparently monumental?
bigillz said:
the only thing I see in Amon that's handy is rebooting back to bootloader
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TWRP does has an option for this as well.
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CWM Recovery discussion

I saw in NilsP's rom thread that people have been working on clockwork mod recovery to see and get it working. I read that with a file copy and an advanced setting you can get backups to work. The main problem being the infamous charging bug.
Here is what is posted in that thread.
punman said:
I wasn't aware of this but when you plug the phone in, it boots what looks like a mini-recovery kernel. I suspect something with this isn't supporting the battery charge. I am going to flash back to Amon Ra and see what the differences are.
Just select "backup to external SD card" in ROM Manager Settings. You might have to enable "advanced settings" to get the option.
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OK here is where I am as memories come back.
If you select backup to external and set progress off it does not actually turn off progress unless you copy the hideprogress file from internal to external. The bad part is the backup hangs if you don't copy the file.
When you select install ROM from SD Card it shows what is on the internal card to select not the external.
I have not tried a restore yet but I remember if you do it from RM it deletes the boot (kernel) but can't restore it due to s-on. Gonna test that in a minute.
EDIT: Backup and restore worked fine after copying the hideprogress file
EDIT: Just had to select internal from the menu when selecting install ROM from SD Card in RM
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So, ideas/thoughts?
its been workin fine as long as u dont let the battery die
just use amon ra. It is better anyway. I don't understand why everyone like CWM so much better.
yojoe600 said:
its been workin fine as long as u dont let the battery die
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Yep. I recovered my original GB after using an early CleanROM ICSE ROM. I think I used Scott's CleanFlash tool to flash back the correct kernel for GB.
All my recoveries have backed up flawlessly since, but I am currently only running stock rooted. Haven't tried recovering any ICS backups.
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con247 said:
just use amon ra. It is better anyway. I don't understand why everyone like CWM so much better.
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I came from the Dinc and that's what almost everyone used on that. So its what I know.
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Flyhalf205 said:
I came from the Dinc and that's what almost everyone used on that. So its what I know.
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They look very similar (pretty much only a color change depending on the version) and operate almost exactly the same.
con247 said:
They look very similar (pretty much only a color change depending on the version) and operate almost exactly the same.
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And since I bought ROM Manager while using my DInc I'd prefer to use CWM. It's a reasonable, personal choice and I've never let my batteries fully discharge, so never had charging issues.
And I don't avoid full discharge because I use CWM, I avoid full discharge because it's actually bad for the batteries.
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con247 said:
just use amon ra. It is better anyway. I don't understand why everyone like CWM so much better.
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ive always said amon was better than cwm.
WookieFan said:
And since I bought ROM Manager while using my DInc I'd prefer to use CWM. It's a reasonable, personal choice and I've never let my batteries fully discharge, so never had charging issues.
And I don't avoid full discharge because I use CWM, I avoid full discharge because it's actually bad for the batteries.
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As long as you are actively aware of how to prevent any issues that might arise, enjoy CWM
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I came from the Dinc and that's what almost everyone used on that. So its what I know.
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Im pretty sure this is the reason bc it was the same for me untill the rezound and now all i use it amonra
Wasn't there a touch screen recovery for us a while back too? Whatever happened to that?
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WookieFan said:
And since I bought ROM Manager while using my DInc I'd prefer to use CWM.
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I bought a Nintendo64, years ago, and now I own and use Wii. Sometimes it's just time to move on.
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trickster2369 said:
I bought a Nintendo64, years ago, and now I own and use Wii. Sometimes it's just time to move on.
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That's not to say there's anything wrong with the N64. I still love it and play it with my friends almost every weekend. I didn't intentionally make it analogous with CWM and Amon Ra or anything: since I used to use CWM on the Incredible and now I'm using Amon Ra--but I just really love N64. I'd take it over the Wii any day.
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Wasn't there a touch screen recovery for us a while back too? Whatever happened to that?
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Touch screen is still out there. I use it. I also use Rom manager to backup and restore my roms. You just got to know how to avoid errors and everything works perfect.
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I bought a Nintendo64, years ago, and now I own and use Wii. Sometimes it's just time to move on.
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LOL. Some get and some don't. It works the same as cwm just without issues. It's amazing and annoying to see people posting almost daily on charging issues yet they refuse to use amon ra because they are comfortable with cwm. I to was hesitant to use it at first but quickly felt like I was in a familiar place once installed. My Rezound has never seen cwm. I have seen the light and I am just thankful there are other options.
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LOL. Some get and some don't. It works the same as cwm just without issues. It's amazing and annoying to see people posting almost daily on charging issues yet they refuse to use amon ra because they are comfortable with cwm. I to was hesitant to use it at first but quickly felt like I was in a familiar place once installed. My Rezound has never seen cwm. I have seen the light and I am just thankful there are other options.
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I think I mentioned earlier that I had no issues charging. But I am also not saying that Amon Ra is bad. Just that I have a preference and that I know how to handle/avoid the pitfalls.
Interestingly, there were many in the DInc threads who didn't like CWM or ROM Manager, but no one there made snarky comments about personal choice... (not talking about you, snowride)
I think any CWM thread will just devolve like a Sense thread will. At least in the Rezound forums.
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snowride20 said:
LOL. Some get and some don't. It works the same as cwm just without issues. It's amazing and annoying to see people posting almost daily on charging issues yet they refuse to use amon ra because they are comfortable with cwm. I to was hesitant to use it at first but quickly felt like I was in a familiar place once installed. My Rezound has never seen cwm. I have seen the light and I am just thankful there are other options.
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I also bought CWM while on the Incredible and it did it's job nearly flawlessly. I installed it on my Rezound after rooting in Dec., had issues, flashed AmonRa, and haven't looked back. Superior, IMO. I'll keep using what works.
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graymonkey44 said:
That's not to say there's anything wrong with the N64. I still love it and play it with my friends almost every weekend. I didn't intentionally make it analogous with CWM and Amon Ra or anything: since I used to use CWM on the Incredible and now I'm using Amon Ra--but I just really love N64. I'd take it over the Wii any day.
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Would it make a difference if I had said Atari instead on N64? Or Xbox instead of Wii? The point is the same.
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Flyhalf205 said:
Touch screen is still out there. I use it. I also use Rom manager to backup and restore my roms. You just got to know how to avoid errors and everything works perfect.
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What was it called? I thought I saw a thread about it when I first got my rezound. Now I can't seem to find it. That and it isn't mentioned under the recovery choices in one of the pinned how to threads.
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What was it called? I thought I saw a thread about it when I first got my rezound. Now I can't seem to find it. That and it isn't mentioned under the recovery choices in one of the pinned how to threads.
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CWM Touch, I think. hasoon2000's tool can install it for you, or you can download it directly from the ROM Manager website, I think.
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Being A Noob Sucks!

LOL. So I just got my new Resound rooted this morning by a guy that I know and I am looking to flash my first ROM. A nandroid has already been made. Coming from a rooted DX, this HTC format is a little different. Can you guys give me some recommendations on a good, stable ROM? Many thanks!
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artisticsoul79 said:
LOL. So I just got my new Resound rooted this morning by a guy that I know and I am looking to flash my first ROM. A nandroid has already been made. Coming from a rooted DX, this HTC format is a little different. Can you guys give me some recommendations on a good, stable ROM? Many thanks!
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I was like you over a month ago. I've came from a heavily custom original Droid, to a Droid X2 to now the Rezound. The HTC method is really different, my recommendation would be to flash TwiZted SenZes. wildtang gives full instructions on what to do and they're very clear. Also his official website AndroidPassions.com features a "The Box" where you can chat live with developers and he'll help you most of the time if he's in. Please note that if you flash the new firmware to run ICS ROMs, you can't revert back to using Gingerbread ROM from what I hear. But ICS Roms are highly stable now since the last leak we had of an official Rezound leak. If you have any questions please ask...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1549507
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I was like you over a month ago. I've came from a heavily custom original Droid, to a Droid X2 to now the Rezound. The HTC method is really different, my recommendation would be to flash TwiZted SenZes. wildtang gives full instructions on what to do and they're very clear. Also his official website AndroidPassions.com features a "The Box" where you can chat live with developers and he'll help you most of the time if he's in. Please note that if you flash the new firmware to run ICS ROMs, you can't revert back to using Gingerbread ROM from what I hear. But ICS Roms are highly stable now since the last leak we had of an official Rezound leak. If you have any questions please ask...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1549507
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the ruu with the newer firmware also wipes internal so be sure to backup
use the "thanks" if I helped you at all
Wrong section, should only be posting threads here if you are a dev.
The current ICS leaks are nice, really can't recommend them until HTC fixes the kernel issues though. Of course everyone results vary.
I wouldn't flash the leaked ICS RUU either, there are work arounds for the most popular ROMs now.
Check out the list of ROMs at the top of this forum for ideas and post any questions in the Q&A section or the ROM thread if it's specific to that ROM.
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Oh ok.. My bad. I don't use thus forum a lot so I wasn't sure where to post.
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I will try to save you some headaches. Make sure you use amon ra recovery. Do not use clockworkmod as many people have issues and if you let the battery die while cwm is installed you will have to find a new way to charge that battery or buy a new one. I have been a big fan of Scott's clean roms. It is mostly stock sense just cleaned up and smooth. Some of the others are a bit more themed to that developers liking. Scott has good instructions on his website. And make sure you read then reread the original post so you understand what to do, what works, and what may not work. Scotts clean Rom 4.3 is a great place to start and included is the patch for the old firmware. Then flash some of the others to see what you prefer. I am currently running BAMF sense 4.0 and it runs great but there are still some bugs to be worked out. You will pick it up quick as long as you read instructions first. Like someone else said ask if you have problems but just in the right forum. Happy flashing!
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Oh ok.. My bad. I don't use thus forum a lot so I wasn't sure where to post.
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No problem, just giving you a heads up.
LOL i came from a rooted dx too, i used the cm7 release. I have a really useful tool to unlock your rezound, from there i would recommend a rom like cleanrom. It is really fast and stable. Enjoy!
Team Win Recovery is the recovery system that is being used. Does this mean I can go ahead and flash any rom?
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So I looked into team win recovery and I'm sure it might work but have not heard anyone using it for the rezound. I suggest using amon ra ver 3.15. It can be found in the development section. Make a backup then flash away.
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I've got Scott's Clean ICS rom installed and it's impressive! One thing I don't like is the number icon in the battery..
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artisticsoul79 said:
I've got Scott's Clean ICS rom installed and it's impressive! One thing I don't like is the number icon in the battery..
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I love having the number in the battery icon. I saves me real estate on my screen by not having to install a 3rd party widget to tell me whats left. Anyway, look through the themes and app section but this may be the only person working on what your looking for. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1551602 at the bottom of the OP you will see "To go back to the stock look for CleanROM 4.3. Flash this: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12286815/Cle...Flyhalf205.zip ". Not sure if it has the number in the icon. This is not my work all credit to flyhalf205 and who_mike_d so hit up some of their threads and give some thanks. This is only for CleanRom 4.3. If your on a different version you can find some older post if you look around.
CleanROM 4.3 has been rock solid for me, no issues at all. I didn't like the battery either so I flashed it with a battery mod found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1551303
Very happy with this combo so far.
Well now I'm having issues when I go back to recovery mode. I'm unable to select recovery, instead I am stuck with only choosing up or down volume for upgrade and then power to restart the phone... Also this rom has me set on 3G instead of 4G..
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Ok finally Unlocked mine, now what just use Nils 1-click and I'm set?
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Well now I'm having issues when I go back to recovery mode. I'm unable to select recovery, instead I am stuck with only choosing up or down volume for upgrade and then power to restart the phone... Also this rom has me set on 3G instead of 4G..
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Delete the PH98IMG.zip from your SD card. That will get you back to recovery. Or you can send the adb command when you are connected to your computer
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adb reboot recovery
That worked!! Thank you.
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awesome

Rom help

Ok I am almost at the point of trying a Rom. My questions are..
1) being htvdev unlocked ota upgraded are there roms I cannot install? If so how can I tell.
2)again with the ota restriction can I use goo manager to install or do I need to use fastboot flash boot to do it.
3)looking for advice on a good Rom to install. Not sure about going senseless not that I am against it just I realize it is more than just the pretty face. Although the only widget I use is fancy widgets do not think that requires sence but I could be wrong. I would like the rom with the best multitask capabilities. Super user of course and buttons renapped for sure. The fastest most stable Rom woukd be best.
4) I have reset google wallet so will I be safe from bricking my chip?
Thanks for any and all help
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cherylbaker said:
Ok I am almost at the point of trying a Rom. My questions are..
1) being htvdev unlocked ota upgraded are there roms I cannot install? If so how can I tell.
2)again with the ota restriction can I use goo manager to install or do I need to use fastboot flash boot to do it.
3)looking for advice on a good Rom to install. Not sure about going senseless not that I am against it just I realize it is more than just the pretty face. Although the only widget I use is fancy widgets do not think that requires sence but I could be wrong. I would like the rom with the best multitask capabilities. Super user of course and buttons renapped for sure. The fastest most stable Rom woukd be best.
4) I have reset google wallet so will I be safe from bricking my chip?
Thanks for any and all help
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I'd suggest Mean Rom its FULLY functional and yes to be sure clear wallet again before flashing.
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Can someone please help me. I am afraid of making a mistake.I want to start by just flashing a stock rooted ROM. I have downloaded 3 but not really sure what to do.. Right bore I am downloading stock rooted odes.zip.
What I think I do is take the boot.img out of it and use fastboot to flash it..
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I suggest you try venom rom 4G, and most users have been anticipating it for a long time. I download that and I would be happy guiding you trough the process, and it's easy! Try most things are automated now
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Well I have goo manager and twrp installed but they need root which I do not have. I figured I would just flash a room that had root already in it. How will I flash a ROM .. Should be the same for all.
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ok lets clarify first..u have the htcdev unlock?......
also look this over
http://forums.androidcentral.com/ht...s/192777-evo-4g-lte-1-22-651-3-root-easy.html
If you are unlocked, and have twrp, you can flash a rom with the root.
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Yip that's what I did.. Just went into twrp and told it what ROM to flash and here I Am ready to rule the world.. Having taken the ota had not been as much of a downer as everyone made it out to be.
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Did you try viper4g?
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I have boot tried anything yet. Just flashed this stick rooted ROM for NY first test to get my feet wet. I want to find one that will suit me and bit be flashing my phone every day. Plus I need to decide if I should get one that is senseless or not.. What is so special about viper?
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I'd suggest Mean Rom its FULLY functional and yes to be sure clear wallet again before flashing.
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Let's you customize it, but can be senseless if you want it to be. I look at the tread, and it's really good and easy theme support
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I looked at it and it looks crazy... Trying to download it but things are moving slowly.. Great that it has both sense and senseless
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Superwipe for Amaze 4G/ICS/4.0.3?

I can't seem to find it for the life of me and do I truly need it, sorry for this question
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Just use the wipe all partitions except sdcard option in 4EXT recovery, does the very same thing.
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Just use the wipe all partitions except sdcard option in 4EXT recovery, does the very same thing.
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Thanks bro, kinda figured that part might still be the same as when I used CWM on my Incredible S 2yrs ago also I looked at 2 different kernel posts and for ICS he says right in his post "ONLY S-OFF" phones so I keep getting confused cuz I trust u but those comments throw people off ya know?
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Thanks bro, kinda figured that part might still be the same as when I used CWM on my Incredible S 2yrs ago also I looked at 2 different kernel posts and for ICS he says right in his post "ONLY S-OFF" phones so I keep getting confused cuz I trust u but those comments throw people off ya know?
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Reason why they put that is because a bunch of noobs who don't know what the hell they're doing flash things randomly without knowing what they're dealing with, since s-off requires some researching and adb skills, they push for s-off just to get more advanced users and avoid the noobish bs complaints/issues.
Hey bro yeah if you're using cwm, switch to 4ext it's worth it, use wipe all partitions, faster, easier than Superwipe, trust me I used Superwipe every time before flashing roms
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