So after a couple of months of research, i decided to go ahead and spend $500 for a new Transformer Prime, thinking it was the coolest and fastest tablet out there. The fact that it runs android and that i can root it and load custom roms on it was just an added bonus. I've had an E4GT for about six months now, so im very familiar with the android community.
However, after about a week with this tablet, im very disappointed. wifi, to be quite honest, sucks, the stock browser locks up for no reason all the time, the whole pad gets really hot when i simply watch a movie on netflix with the brightness turned all the way down. Multi-tasking is terrible, switching from facebook to USA Today to twitter is completely laggy. i bought this tablet as something to use instead of lugging my laptop all around the house with me, but to be honest, id rather sit on my laptop if it meant i didnt have to wait 30 seconds to a minute just for the XDA site to load. for this tablet being a quad core, it runs slower than my dual core phone. battery life also, has seemed to be an issue. one movie on netflix over a very stable wifi with brightness turned all the way down will run out my whole battery. also ive tried a few games, since its advertised as a tegra 3 gaming tablet, and games such as GTA and NOVA arent even very good, frame rate is slow and laggy.
Another thing that i was disappointed with were the number of roms/kernels/tweaks i could do to the machine. now im not trying to discredit the devs, i know they do a TON of work on the roms and such that are out there, so dont flame me, however ive found that even most of the custom roms for our TFP dont really come with alot of custom options, unless you go with CM9 or AOKP.
my mom just bought a new ipad, and i know i know its apple they such blahh blahh and yes, the lack of customizability would absolutely drive me insane, but the browser is wicked fast, the battery life is incredible, and switching between apps is completely seamless. everything youd expect from a $500 tablet
now right now i am running the latest version of AOKP, and the above is all of the things that i keep running into. however, i have run multiple stock and custom roms, and they all seemed to give me the same problems. if the problems im running into are rom based, then please by all means point me in the right direction. i certainly do not know everything about android.
sorry this post is long, but i dont know what im going to do, i definitely not happy with my prime, but when it comes down to the specs, its the best tablet on the market. i guess if in a week or two im still not happy with it ill return it, but if theres anything any of you know that will spark a new love for my prime, id greatly appreciate it.
Ctanferno22 said:
So after a couple of months of research, i decided to go ahead and spend $500 for a new Transformer Prime, thinking it was the coolest and fastest tablet out there. The fact that it runs android and that i can root it and load custom roms on it was just an added bonus. I've had an E4GT for about six months now, so im very familiar with the android community.
However, after about a week with this tablet, im very disappointed. wifi, to be quite honest, sucks, the stock browser locks up for no reason all the time, the whole pad gets really hot when i simply watch a movie on netflix with the brightness turned all the way down. Multi-tasking is terrible, switching from facebook to USA Today to twitter is completely laggy. i bought this tablet as something to use instead of lugging my laptop all around the house with me, but to be honest, id rather sit on my laptop if it meant i didnt have to wait 30 seconds to a minute just for the XDA site to load. for this tablet being a quad core, it runs slower than my dual core phone. battery life also, has seemed to be an issue. one movie on netflix over a very stable wifi with brightness turned all the way down will run out my whole battery. also ive tried a few games, since its advertised as a tegra 3 gaming tablet, and games such as GTA and NOVA arent even very good, frame rate is slow and laggy.
Another thing that i was disappointed with were the number of roms/kernels/tweaks i could do to the machine. now im not trying to discredit the devs, i know they do a TON of work on the roms and such that are out there, so dont flame me, however ive found that even most of the custom roms for our TFP dont really come with alot of custom options, unless you go with CM9 or AOKP.
my mom just bought a new ipad, and i know i know its apple they such blahh blahh and yes, the lack of customizability would absolutely drive me insane, but the browser is wicked fast, the battery life is incredible, and switching between apps is completely seamless. everything youd expect from a $500 tablet
now right now i am running the latest version of AOKP, and the above is all of the things that i keep running into. however, i have run multiple stock and custom roms, and they all seemed to give me the same problems. if the problems im running into are rom based, then please by all means point me in the right direction. i certainly do not know everything about android.
sorry this post is long, but i dont know what im going to do, i definitely not happy with my prime, but when it comes down to the specs, its the best tablet on the market. i guess if in a week or two im still not happy with it ill return it, but if theres anything any of you know that will spark a new love for my prime, id greatly appreciate it.
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Can I just roll out this tired old phrase before someone else does...cool story bro...yawn
I think 95% of people on this forum are tired of these threads appearing. Why didn't you post your comments in a thread like this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1444084
I presume your intent was to start a flame war. Enjoy it while it lasts. I hope the mods put this thread out of its misery ASAP
What people should do instead of posting this kind of thing here is send Asus an email.
I'm not saying the email wouldn't just vanish into the ether, but complaining to other users isn't going to accomplish anything.
If you're unhappy, email Asus and let them know.
paddycr said:
Can I just roll out this tired old phrase before someone else does...cool story bro...yawn
I think 95% of people on this forum are tired of these threads appearing. Why didn't you post your comments in a thread like this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1444084
I presume your intent was to start a flame war. Enjoy it while it lasts. I hope the mods put this thread out of its misery ASAP
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GET OUT! NOBODY HAS COME UP WITH THIS YET! ALL HANDS ON DECK! GET THIS GUY AN AWARD FOR ALERTING THE XDA COMMUNITY!
you are a noob. Nobody like to be a noob, but you are one anyway. and the first rule of noob-age is to search and read. Second rule of noob-age is that after you search and find a thread that is similar to your problem, post it there. There are so many complaint threads, we've had the mods closing them left and right. Thank you for creating another one and proving that people don't search or read, they just spew onto xda. We appreciate your well thought out, yet redundant post that has already been extremely well documented issues in other threads.
/flame
And we are 2...****ing tablet. I hate asus
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paddycr said:
Can I just roll out this tired old phrase before someone else does...cool story bro...yawn
I think 95% of people on this forum are tired of these threads appearing. Why didn't you post your comments in a thread like this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1444084
I presume your intent was to start a flame war. Enjoy it while it lasts. I hope the mods put this thread out of its misery ASAP
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The problem with the first post of that thread is there's nothing about the lag/browser/io.
You should of RMA it before you unlocked for WIFI.
I have 2 primes, Unlocked and running AKOP
I must say i disagree with everything you say. My tablet is FIRE
Speed is nuts.
Now all we need is a win8 port =)
What kind of customization are you looking for exactly? I do most of mine through widgets, apps, launchers, and live wallpapers, which are mostly rom independent (except the cornerstone roms, which can't use live wallpapers)
And the kernel you use can also affect your wifi experiences.
Try installing Ad Free, it will make your browsing experience much smoother
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bigtincan.android.adfree
David522d said:
You should of RMA it before you unlocked for WIFI.
I have 2 primes, Unlocked and running AKOP
I must say i disagree with everything you say. My tablet is FIRE
Speed is nuts.
Now all we need is a win8 port =)
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i agree for one part: aopk is realy snappy. but stock based (androwook) owns it by far in terms of stability and battery life.
we need best of 2 worlds.
in both cases extremely bad IO write speed which causes slowdowns and queueing. this is realy a bugger, hope its fixable.
I realize all some of the things I mentioned have been talked about before, the reason I posted was to see if there was something out there that I was missing that would improve my experience. All you trolls do is look for people to flame. If you really want to contribute to the community how about you help someone out that just spent $500 on a tablet that doesn't deliver what it said it would. So thanks trolls for encouraging me to return this tablet even more. Great community, real helpful. At least the people in the E4GT threads try to do something about the problems they find with their device, instead of just flaming people
jrkart99 said:
GET OUT! NOBODY HAS COME UP WITH THIS YET! ALL HANDS ON DECK! GET THIS GUY AN AWARD FOR ALERTING THE XDA COMMUNITY!
you are a noob. Nobody like to be a noob, but you are one anyway. and the first rule of noob-age is to search and read. Second rule of noob-age is that after you search and find a thread that is similar to your problem, post it there. There are so many complaint threads, we've had the mods closing them left and right. Thank you for creating another one and proving that people don't search or read, they just spew onto xda. We appreciate your well thought out, yet redundant post that has already been extremely well documented issues in other threads.
/flame
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Ya, a noob that claims to have done months of research on the Prime before deciding to buy one. If you did all that research wouldn't you have known about the problems some have experienced? What we have here is an iFan troll IMHO. See how the topic eventually got to mentioning the iPad.
If I was still in the return window , this is just me my honest opinion is just return it and wait on something better , plenty of options coming up. I don't have the browser or lag problems some people have but the wifi/BT problem absolutely ticks me off, GPS was dead on mine out the box and Asus screwed up its initial dongle shipments I had to have 75 other people post in a thread before getting any response from people at corporate about it to have them send me another one. Its a great looking tablet but QC on these things is just terrible and my opinion the company isnt much better (shame on Google for going with Asus for the Nexus tablet that really irks me too), TF201 will be last Asus product I buy, you either get one thats great or one with some issue
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I realize all some of the things I mentioned have been talked about before, the reason I posted was to see if there was something out there that I was missing that would improve my experience. All you trolls do is look for people to flame. If you really want to contribute to the community how about you help someone out that just spent $500 on a tablet that doesn't deliver what it said it would. So thanks trolls for encouraging me to return this tablet even more. Great community, real helpful. At least the people in the E4GT threads try to do something about the problems they find with their device, instead of just flaming people
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See my post previous post about improving your web browsing experience.
We probably have different expectations, because I'm running a stock based rom as my daily driver and honestly I'm overall very happy with the experience. I don't use the stock web browser, so maybe that may be the difference, or not.
I also don't seem to notice much lag from switching between apps... then again I'm also not watching lag like a hawk either, so if it does exist, it's not enough for me to take notice.
Lastly, if you put yourself out there then just be ready for the flames to come out. It's probably true that this forum seems to have a higher ratio of trolls though... I guess some people really take this stuff too seriously. But if you let their comments get to you then they have won...
Ctanferno22 said:
I realize all some of the things I mentioned have been talked about before, the reason I posted was to see if there was something out there that I was missing that would improve my experience. All you trolls do is look for people to flame. If you really want to contribute to the community how about you help someone out that just spent $500 on a tablet that doesn't deliver what it said it would. So thanks trolls for encouraging me to return this tablet even more. Great community, real helpful. At least the people in the E4GT threads try to do something about the problems they find with their device, instead of just flaming people
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Im new to Tabs but been runnin all kinds of Custom Roms GB and ICS on my 4G Sprint Touch here @ XDA...Mines overclocked at 1.6 and Smokes...I found out the best way to improve it was to read a lotta threads and get different ideas on what to run...
Just like here Ive read a lot of threads ran about 5 different roms with overclocked kernels up to 1.8...My Prime also smokes...from videos to music... movies... you name it...don't notice any lag...Im runnin Wookies Prime 1.0 ...quadrants of 5200-5900 @ performance...Gummys is Super Fast as well...but to me Wooks is more stable...Im more than satisfied the way I set mine up...So just read a bit on here ...set it up the right way and Im sure you'll luv it....
And I think a lotta members on here are more than willing to help...Of course Im unlocked and rooted...Bricked it the first day...But with the help from here...got back up and runnin in about an hour... haven't had a problem since...
Ctanferno22 said:
I realize all some of the things I mentioned have been talked about before, the reason I posted was to see if there was something out there that I was missing that would improve my experience. All you trolls do is look for people to flame. If you really want to contribute to the community how about you help someone out that just spent $500 on a tablet that doesn't deliver what it said it would. So thanks trolls for encouraging me to return this tablet even more. Great community, real helpful. At least the people in the E4GT threads try to do something about the problems they find with their device, instead of just flaming people
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I am sorry that the Prime isn't all you were expecting it to be. I am glad you did months of research before posting here, however had you done so you would have noticed three things for sure:
Many people have the same issues as you, and there are threads already addressing the specific issues you mention.
We just had a major ****-storm on this forum over the massive number of duplicate posts talking about the same issues and problems.
Starting threads that are duplicates of topics that already exist on the forum is a "no-no" according to XDA forum rules.
Again I am sorry that the Prime doesn't meet your needs, and I am very sorry for some of the replies you have gotten in this thread. All I can say is people are a little more sensitive to duplicate posts, especially ones that complain without offering any possible solutions to the problems that are the source of the complaint.
If your Prime didn't met your needs you should have returned it to the store before voiding your warranty trying to fix the problem. You still might want to give this a try, or try exchanging it for another Prime and tell them that WiFi isn't working properly as it is an issue most retailers know about. Most retail locations won't check a device to see if its bootloader has been unlocked.
Also if your problem is specifically with Wifi performance, or at least, you phrase it that way to Asus, there is a good chance they will still allow you to RMA the Prime as they have done so for several other people on the forum.
Is not your xda here....
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Ctanferno22 said:
So after a couple of months of research, i decided to go ahead and spend $500 for a new Transformer Prime, thinking it was the coolest and fastest tablet out there. The fact that it runs android and that i can root it and load custom roms on it was just an added bonus. I've had an E4GT for about six months now, so im very familiar with the android community.
However, after about a week with this tablet, im very disappointed. wifi, to be quite honest, sucks, the stock browser locks up for no reason all the time, the whole pad gets really hot when i simply watch a movie on netflix with the brightness turned all the way down. Multi-tasking is terrible, switching from facebook to USA Today to twitter is completely laggy. i bought this tablet as something to use instead of lugging my laptop all around the house with me, but to be honest, id rather sit on my laptop if it meant i didnt have to wait 30 seconds to a minute just for the XDA site to load. for this tablet being a quad core, it runs slower than my dual core phone. battery life also, has seemed to be an issue. one movie on netflix over a very stable wifi with brightness turned all the way down will run out my whole battery. also ive tried a few games, since its advertised as a tegra 3 gaming tablet, and games such as GTA and NOVA arent even very good, frame rate is slow and laggy.
Another thing that i was disappointed with were the number of roms/kernels/tweaks i could do to the machine. now im not trying to discredit the devs, i know they do a TON of work on the roms and such that are out there, so dont flame me, however ive found that even most of the custom roms for our TFP dont really come with alot of custom options, unless you go with CM9 or AOKP.
my mom just bought a new ipad, and i know i know its apple they such blahh blahh and yes, the lack of customizability would absolutely drive me insane, but the browser is wicked fast, the battery life is incredible, and switching between apps is completely seamless. everything youd expect from a $500 tablet
now right now i am running the latest version of AOKP, and the above is all of the things that i keep running into. however, i have run multiple stock and custom roms, and they all seemed to give me the same problems. if the problems im running into are rom based, then please by all means point me in the right direction. i certainly do not know everything about android.
sorry this post is long, but i dont know what im going to do, i definitely not happy with my prime, but when it comes down to the specs, its the best tablet on the market. i guess if in a week or two im still not happy with it ill return it, but if theres anything any of you know that will spark a new love for my prime, id greatly appreciate it.
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I have flashed every ROM that exists for the Prime, and all have their own minor issues.
For my Prime, I have to say the new Androwook Prime custom ROM is the best there is.
If you haven't tried it yet, do it... you have nothing to lose but a few minutes of your time.
Just go read the (95% positive) feedback and you'll want to try it.... it's got freakin Sony Bravia engine in it man It is the fastest ROM I've ever run, super stable, no browser lag or not responding messages, and the WiFi is great. I do like AOKP and Gummy but WiFi sucks on my Prime with those ROMS.
Give it a shot man... come back tonight and let me know how it worked out for ya.
Oh, BTW... after installing Androwook, I got an app called GMD GestureControl... wow it's amazing. Ceck into that too... in love with my Prime even more than ever.
almightywhacko said:
I am sorry that the Prime isn't all you were expecting it to be. I am glad you did months of research before posting here, however had you done so you would have noticed three things for sure:
Many people have the same issues as you, and there are threads already addressing the specific issues you mention.
We just had a major ****-storm on this forum over the massive number of duplicate posts talking about the same issues and problems.
Starting threads that are duplicates of topics that already exist on the forum is a "no-no" according to XDA forum rules
Again I am sorry that the Prime doesn't meet your needs, and I am very sorry for some of the replies you have gotten in this thread. All I can say is people are a little more sensitive to duplicate posts, especially ones that complain without offering any possible solutions to the problems that are the source of the complaint.
If your Prime didn't met your needs you should have returned it to the store before voiding your warranty trying to fix the problem. You still might want to give this a try, or try exchanging it for another Prime and tell them that WiFi isn't working properly as it is an issue most retailers know about. Most retail locations won't check a device to see if its bootloader has been unlocked.
Also if your problem is specifically with Wifi performance, or at least, you phrase it that way to Asus, there is a good chance they will still allow you to RMA the Prime as they have done so for several other people on the forum.
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I agree with this 100%
@OP don't take none of the remarks personal. I feel your gripes. Its just that EVERYONE is really frustrated. Especially on duplicate complaint threads. the reason for that is because most are posted just complaining without trying to find a solution or answer to the problem. I know it wasn't this in your case, but just saying in general. People in the Prime forum are actually very helpful and like the other forum you described. Everyone is on edge with this device. We have primes that work great and people satisfied with them & then we have people with primes that have issues and are unhappy. So don't take the flaming remarks to heart.
Try that rom like jaycustom said, since you are unlocked. if your main gripe is wifi, just call Asus and see what they can do. you never know, they might just go on and fix your device although its unlocked. people have had success with that route.
good luck on finding a solution and don't be discouraged.
thank you hairdewx and jaycustom for actually responding with something useful. the reason i posted was to learn. learn more about the device i have and how to set it up the right way to get the results i want. i like the androwook custom rom, but i really like the toggles of AOKP, i use them ALOT. i will try your suggestions and see what i can find out. i tried to use the custom build prop in the development section, but everytime i do it and follow the directions it wont boot past the asus screen. maybe im doing it wrong and i will try it again. thanks again to those of you that actually made an effort to try and help me. my post was not to *****, but yet make the best with what i had.
Love my Prime. Running Virtuous Rom and it is seemless. I have the latest build (serial # starting with C4) so I dont know if they have fixed up the wifi/GPS issues in this build but it is great.
I too am noob and did a fair bit of searching before I purchased (2 weeks ago). I was aware of the GPS/Wifi issues but had read that the new dongle fixed that but hadn't read much about lag or any other problems. All the reviews I read were extremely glowing of the tablet and most ranked their #1. Anyway I suppose I was lucky to get one that works perfectly.
Does anyone know if C4 build has all issues ironed out now? it would be great if it does but Asus should replace tab for those that are extremely unhappy.
Once again, Love my Prime!!!!!
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ok downloaded bos 4.1 and thought it would be a good change for the ole g tab.....wrong!! now i have no camera it wont play vids so i assume my flash 10.3 wont realy install , i cant go into recovery and now none of my root tools work. i just dont get it. could some one pls help me?
jackbreezeusa said:
ok downloaded bos 4.1 and thought it would be a good change for the ole g tab.....wrong!! now i have no camera it wont play vids so i assume my flash 10.3 wont realy install , i cant go into recovery and now none of my root tools work. i just dont get it. could some one pls help me?
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I don't get it. It is spelled out very clearly that BoS does not have camera yet and there have been some glitches. It's an ALPHA version, which mean it is only recommended for people who want to do some testing and hacking. It is NOT for mainstream usage or for people who like to whine.
My suggestion is for you to nvflash and then sell your device. Then go out and buy an ipad. I'm sure apple's got a department to deal with whiners like yourself.
Lol at someone with the screen name 'good intentions' talking that much smack; but he's right, the issues the op complained about are spelled out in the release post.
(1) The road to hell is paved with good intentions. Didn't they teach you that in grade school?
(2) Look at my other posts. If the questions are genuine, then I am more than happy to spell out the solutions. For example, take a look at this thread.
(3) The OP might as well complain about the lack of 4g or 5g or 6g or that the gtab can't sing and dance on its own.
This is exactly the reason why I recommend the ipad to most people.
Goodintentions has it right here.
I'm not sure what else I can do besides spell it out in my posts on SLD and TR. Smoke signals?
Btw, alpha 5 tonight. Still an alpha, btw!
roebeet said:
I'm not sure what else I can do besides spell it out in my posts on SLD and TR. Smoke signals?
Btw, alpha 5 tonight. Still an alpha, btw!
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Thanks for the "smoke signal".
The fact that the OP began a post here on XDA about BOS shows that he did VERY little research before trying it out.
and paople can say what they will about goodintention's posts, but he's probably THE MOST honest person on this forum...
There are a few different types of G-Tablet users:
There's me, the people that wish they could afford an iPad or other more expensive stable, supported tablet. They found the G-Tab, thought it was affordable, bought it, flashed a stable rom and are happy where they are, even if it is still a Froyo rom.
There's the people that can't resist messing around with technology. These people would even take a toaster apart to see if they could get "MORE POWER" out of it. They are familiar with Linux, or even any generic programming, and they have fun experimenting with the G-Tablet. These people can throw it against a wall, burn it in a bon fire, and still figure out a way to recover from the soft brick that it caused.
Then there are people like the OP. They find this cheap tablet, read all the reviews, negative and positive. See that there is potential if they flash a custom rom. They read up on the basics, then blame the rom developers when something breaks or doesn't meet their expectations. As Goodintentions explained, these are the people that should have saved up for an iPad. it does everything they want it to do, without any user customization whatsoever. They want an iPad more than anything, but think that they can somehow force their G-Tablet to become one...
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I'm not sure what else I can do besides spell it out in my posts on SLD and TR. Smoke signals?
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Nah, smoke signals is so old fashion. Morse code is more up-to-date.
@ TJEvans: Just like the OP should be able to read a release post before installing a rom, you should be able to read my 'lol' and chill; I thought it was funny, thus the laughter. If you read anything other than laughter into 'lol' that's your baggage, not mine. No need to over-defend Good like he's your *****.
Wow, people in this forum are cranky; I can see why some people leave and get info from other places instead.
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Look at my other posts.
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I don't think I'll bother, but thanks for the suggestion. I also recommend the iPad for 'certain' comsumers. It's good that we see eye to eye on so many things.
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@ TJEvans: Just like the OP should be able to read a release post before installing a rom, you should be able to read my 'lol' and chill; I thought it was funny, thus the laughter. If you read anything other than laughter into 'lol' that's your baggage, not mine. No need to over-defend Good like he's your *****.
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Mike, wasn't directing my post to you specifically. In General, when GI makes honest posts, people jump all over his stuff about it. You didn't, I just wanted to make sure that the OP knew that GI was actually being honest and true, an iPad is certainly the right device for somebody that's going to tear apart an alpha build of a custom rom becuase their "awesome 1.3 megapixel camera isn't working."
I mean, come on, is the camera on these things even worth using? All you can do is take crappy pictures of yourself.
Good news, OP, as a direct result from your OP, I have created a website called viewsonic gtab for dummies.
http://viewsonic-gtablet-for-dummies.webs.com/
TJEvans said:
The fact that the OP began a post here on XDA about BOS shows that he did VERY little research before trying it out.
and paople can say what they will about goodintention's posts, but he's probably THE MOST honest person on this forum...
There are a few different types of G-Tablet users:
There's me, the people that wish they could afford an iPad or other more expensive stable, supported tablet. They found the G-Tab, thought it was affordable, bought it, flashed a stable rom and are happy where they are, even if it is still a Froyo rom.
There's the people that can't resist messing around with technology. These people would even take a toaster apart to see if they could get "MORE POWER" out of it. They are familiar with Linux, or even any generic programming, and they have fun experimenting with the G-Tablet. These people can throw it against a wall, burn it in a bon fire, and still figure out a way to recover from the soft brick that it caused.
Then there are people like the OP. They find this cheap tablet, read all the reviews, negative and positive. See that there is potential if they flash a custom rom. They read up on the basics, then blame the rom developers when something breaks or doesn't meet their expectations. As Goodintentions explained, these are the people that should have saved up for an iPad. it does everything they want it to do, without any user customization whatsoever. They want an iPad more than anything, but think that they can somehow force their G-Tablet to become one...
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Apple makes great MP3 devices - the rest is just not to my liking. So there's some that just don't care for Apple ;-)
Hey Good Intentions, checked out your site-very nice! As an android/g-tab newbie everything you need to know is there. Essentially a hand holding guide for the average or below average user. Although you come across someone gruff at times at least you back it up with valuable advice with your site. I wish there was a better way you could get the word out to more people, it would probably save them from themselves very often.
Finally got my prime after so much stress and work. Was so EXICTED.
First off the bat, I noticed it was kinda sluggish. Maybe I expected too much oh of it but when switching to portrait mode from landscape, it could take up to 3 seconds and shudder (unlike my iPad 2).
The browser was SO slow oh my god. Went side by side with my iPad 2 and the iPad 2 destroyed the prime. Often times the prime would just give up half way through loading the page and I had to click refresh.
What's up with the keyboard? I've been typing on tablets for so long and am really fast. Often times when I typed something, the prime didn't recognize me clicking space and words were mashed together. Almost never have had this problem before and it was common on the prime.
The native books app is TERRIBLE. I had this 500 page PDF I wanted to read and got it on my prime. The books app would freeze up and take up to 10 seconds sometimes to load the next page! Thankfully I went to the android market and found a third party one.
Overall, even with ICS, it doesn't feel as snappy or responsisive as iOS (and trust me, I HATE giving apple credit). I can't see myself actually achieving a task on this, like typing something up or looking up something with the slow browser. It didn't have smooth enough transitions and I hated to see it shudder.
So yes I am SO upset. I don't even want to recap the trouble and time input to finally getting one of these. Either you suck Asus, my unit is messed up(doubtful), or I have been spoiled with iOS and android is second rate. Thank you
Ok, I'll bite:
Finally got my prime after so much stress and work. Was so EXICTED.
First off the bat, I noticed it was kinda sluggish. Maybe I expected too much oh of it but when switching to portrait mode from landscape, it could take up to 3 seconds and shudder (unlike my iPad 2).
that is odd - are you using a live wallpaper? if so that can happen sometimes. Also can you tell if its happening with specific apps or the entire tablet? that happens to me every time I use the Best Buy app and a few others - its the apps fault. But it could be your tablet. There is also a setting to look for that you can tell the tablet to auto detect orientation or to force ti one way ot the other - double check what that is set at
The browser was SO slow oh my god. Went side by side with my iPad 2 and the iPad 2 destroyed the prime. Often times the prime would just give up half way through loading the page and I had to click refresh.
The stock browser sucks. get Opera Mobile. It is free. The stock browser is better with ICS now. I ditched the stock browser after 2 days and this is my 4th android device in less than 4 years and I've never switched browsers until now. This appears to be common but easily reolved by using another browser (no different than using Chrome in stead of IE on your PC for example
What's up with the keyboard? I've been typing on tablets for so long and am really fast. Often times when I typed something, the prime didn't recognize me clicking space and words were mashed together. Almost never have had this problem before and it was common on the prime.
The default keyboard is Swype I believe. Check out it's swype feature, it's pretty cool. You trace works instead poke out letters. LOTS of keyboards to choose from. I recommend SwiftKey x for Tablets
The native books app is TERRIBLE. I had this 500 page PDF I wanted to read and got it on my prime. The books app would freeze up and take up to 10 seconds sometimes to load the next page! Thankfully I went to the android market and found a third party one.
I kinda like the default reader, but I have a nook so I have a library there and therefore prefer to use that app. This tablet also come preloaded with the Kindle app. All of those eReader apps are free. and they all work slightly different. Find one you like and then stick with that one. Check out free book samples while you are testing them.
- also have you rebooted after you installed ICS? I mean a nice long and slow shut down, walk away, come back later, turn it on, walk away, don't touch it, and then let it load back up....no touching for 15 minutes? t=That s no science but just a recommendation from past experience flashing roms and OSs etc.
Overall, even with ICS, it doesn't feel as snappy or responsisive as iOS (and trust me, I HATE giving apple credit). I can't see myself actually achieving a task on this, like typing something up or looking up something with the slow browser. It didn't have smooth enough transitions and I hated to see it shudder.
something is not right for it to be THAT bad. I wouldn't expect a brand new, less than one month old release of a new tablet and only one day into a brand new OS to prefer anywhere close to iOS. Ever. If Apple is due credit where they are due - for $800+ someone can walk away with a beautiful tablet that is nearly flawless It sounds like something is slowing your way down, really bogging it. Have you tried killing the tasks (there is a widget fot that now, and rebooting? You could try that before you do the longer walk away reboot. You could also get OS Monitor and see what is hoggin on your CPU.
So yes I am SO upset. I don't even want to recap the trouble and time input to finally getting one of these. Either you suck Asus, my unit is messed up(doubtful), or I have been spoiled with iOS and android is second rate. Thank you
Noting you mentioned is related to hardware so it is not Asus. If you've never used Android then you probably =bly aren't familiar with the variety of settings you can change and ways you can tweak things to help youself trouble shoot some of these problems. I hear you there buddy about the PIa of getting one of these to begin with!! took me over 3 hours on the phone just to get my ordered changed even though I had an email with exact instructions on how to do it. Apparently they didn't tell the CSRs how to do it.Did you get yours from Best Buy? If so, yo are probably still within your 30 days return period. You could return out and wait for a new arrival exchange unit to come in.
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Personally it ALL sounds HW related to me...
OP....If the tablet was up to the task you would be getting better performance.
Yes, there seems to be some happy people out there but as it's been PROVEN that there are MAJOR problems with the TFP.. I'd be more than likely to say it's because these people have a high threshold for putting up with garbage, rather than them experiencing less problems than everyone else.
If you dislike spending good money afte bad on HW that [email protected] WORK PROPERLY then yeah.. go ahead, buy it.. but if you like value for money.. kick it to the kerb.
I have read up on this constantly for the past 2 months... TBH, this tablet is a piece of ****.
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Personally it ALL sounds HW related to me...
OP....If the tablet was up to the task you would be getting better performance.
Yes, there seems to be some happy people out there but as it's been PROVEN that there are MAJOR problems with the TFP.. I'd be more than likely to say it's because these people have a high threshold for putting up with garbage, rather than them experiencing less problems than everyone else.
If you dislike spending good money afte bad on HW that [email protected] WORK PROPERLY then yeah.. go ahead, buy it.. but if you like value for money.. kick it to the kerb.
I have read up on this constantly for the past 2 months... TBH, this tablet is a piece of ****.
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Do you have one? No? Then you should probably stfu...lol. It is a great tablet and has really good hardware. The only known HW issue that I am aware of is GPS. The Prime is a great piece of technology and I am no fanboy. It has issues but nothing like what you mention or what the OP mentions, IMO. If the OP is having that type of trouble they describe then I recommend returning it because that is not the experience i have had at all.
The stock browser, btw, is better than Opera Mobile on ICS. It was crap on HC though.
android sucks lesson learned
I thought your OP seemed a little trollish. Now we know you are a big A fanboy that came to enlighten the Android faithful about the second coming of Jobs. Thanks. We weren't aware that Android was completely inferior to iOS. Now that we know I am sure we will all sell our devices and get in line at the closest Apple store.
Really though for what it's worth, I think Apple is great for a lot of people. I would recommend it to my wife now that Sprint has the iPhone even. It will probably be her next phone. She will probably have an iPad at some point even. So, I'm not sure why there has to be such a divide.
That said, I really can't imagine what would possess someone to create an account on XDA and pretend that their Prime is worse than their iPad 2 just to put out the idea that Android is ass. BTW, most of us have so much experience with this OS that even if it was complete ass we would be so used to the smell that it wouldn't bother us to be all nose deep up in it. Luckily that isn't the case. I know you want it to be. You really wish it was. But..
Android is a great platform with a ton of great developers. Now that Jobs is dead, Apple is likely destined to go back to where it was just before he rejoined their ranks. It's going to take a lot longer now because of all of the iOS worship though.
Anyway, I hope you find a buyer for your Prime if you ever had one. Thanks for letting us know that all of this Android development and enthusiasm is for not. I can't believe I wasted this much time on it...whew. Thanks again. You are awesome. You look really cool with those white headphones too. Sick. I love it. Later el f*cko.
I crack a little smile every time I read such glorious, intelligent, well thought-out posts!
I would say return it for sure. No reason to stick with it and be disappointed.
Have people lost their ability to criticize products without sounding like they just came out of the womb (not talking to you OP, but some of the other thread commentators in this thread)?
Unfortunately I've had the exact same experience as the OP with the Prime I bought to replace my Ipad2. I'm severely disappointed in the performance, especially the stock browser. I know people say to download a browser from the market, but do they really expect all customers to do that? That is their solution?
tbns said:
I crack a little smile every time I read such glorious, intelligent, well thought-out posts!
I would say return it for sure. No reason to stick with it and be disappointed.
Have people lost their ability to criticize products without sounding like they just came out of the womb (not talking to you OP, but some of the other thread commentators in this thread)?
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Looks like there are apple fanboys in our forum again desperate to find something to gloat about. they are like hawks and troll this forum to tarnish this product as much as possible. They are scared that Apple may finally lose its marketshare now that there are MUCH better options. Don't be fooled by them!:
I find it sad that anyone that questions this tablet is immediately branded an apple fanboy.
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I find it sad that anyone that questions this tablet is immediately branded an apple fanboy.
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I'm not on the apple fanboy-branding bandwagon either; I've used iPads, iPhones, and own an iMac. My better half has an iPhone, and it just plain works - period. The iPhone just works, while I sit around tinkering with aftermarket android apps, changing themes, flashing ROMs which might or might not work. So you won't see me criticizing love for Apple. It's fair to compare the two. But there's a mature and constructive way to criticize.
The second response to this post had the phrase "TBH, this tablet is a piece of ****." Wow, what a revelation! Could we scrape the bottom of the barrel anymore when it comes to intelligent observations about the tablet? The OP says it's possible his unit is messed up, but he says 'doubtful'. The title of his thread includes "or does this tablet suck." We are on a TFP forum. Come on. My tablet runs well. I have extensive experience with iPads and other tablets. The TFP runs beautifully for me; and now with ICS, the stock browser is fine. So YES, your tablet is probably messed up in some way or another. Or I just got some lucky batch that performs above and beyond yours.
I understand that others are not having the same experience and are frustrated, but I would take advantage of their retailers return policy and return/replace the tablet. I've already had to replace mine. I'm debating seriously about returning it in order to get one of the newly announced CES tablets. But you won't see me typing half-assed, dumbed-down posts that are clearly written to stir up the pot.
My personal experience
I've had my Tranformer Prime maybe close to 8 months.
Now it's running JB 4.1.1 Stock ROM which was updated OTA.
I do find this tablet rather sluggish. Switching from one app to another takes a few seconds.
Moving from one page to another when viewing PDF files is a chore! I do personally feel it's hardware issues. Not so sure whether it'll be solved by rooting and changing ROMS but I do find myself using my Note2 more often than my tablet just because the latter is super fast!
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I've had my Tranformer Prime maybe close to 8 months.
Now it's running JB 4.1.1 Stock ROM which was updated OTA.
I do find this tablet rather sluggish. Switching from one app to another takes a few seconds.
Moving from one page to another when viewing PDF files is a chore! I do personally feel it's hardware issues. Not so sure whether it'll be solved by rooting and changing ROMS but I do find myself using my Note2 more often than my tablet just because the latter is super fast!
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I was also having problems with mine after the ota and called customer support to find out about doing a factory reset, whereupon they said they were aware of problems and that it needed to be returned and flashed by them. It was picked up on Monday and is in repair now.
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I was also having problems with mine after the ota and called customer support to find out about doing a factory reset, whereupon they said they were aware of problems and that it needed to be returned and flashed by them. It was picked up on Monday and is in repair now.
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Thanks for the reply.
I'm confused. So there IS a problem with the OTA update to JB? Why send it back? Can they ie ASUS do something about it?
Can't you do the factory reset yourself?
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Thanks for the reply.
I'm confused. So there IS a problem with the OTA update to JB? Why send it back? Can they ie ASUS do something about it?
Can't you do the factory reset yourself?
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They said some people are having a problem and that me doing a factory reset would not sort it but they could, hence them asking me to return it for them to reset. If you explain that your problems have occurred since the ota I would hope that they would recall it and at the very least test it after their service.
I hope this helps, I will post again after I receive it back, which hopefully will be a couple of days after easter.
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They said some people are having a problem and that me doing a factory reset would not sort it but they could, hence them asking me to return it for them to reset. If you explain that your problems have occurred since the ota I would hope that they would recall it and at the very least test it after their service.
I hope this helps, I will post again after I receive it back, which hopefully will be a couple of days after easter.
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Thanks alot. Please keep me posted. Maybe I should try hard reset it.. see how that helps.
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Thanks alot. Please keep me posted. Maybe I should try hard reset it.. see how that helps.
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I hard reset mine several times and for me it didn't make a difference but no harm in trying.
Back using my HP TouchPad which is smooth but much heavier and without the same aspect ratio for video or HDMI out and of course the advantages of the dock. So I am looking forward to getting it back.
Hello everyone I just bought this tavlet abd I'm loving it. are there any toots kernels roms or anything and comment on what you like the best about this amazing tablet!
Press thx if I helped!
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The Bootloader unlock tool isnt released just yet. Asus announced it will come in february so it should be here soon. But until then there are no custom roms, but there are some kernel mods in the dev section that enable Overclock. Also check out the keyboard mod from diamondback.
What you should also know, atm this forum is full of people that are not happy with the prime and complain alot. Even though polls and numbers from ASUS show that over 80-90% are very happy customers those other 10-20% cry really loud, especially on this forum
So dont take it too seriously and enjoy your prime.
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The Bootloader unlock tool isnt released just yet. Asus announced it will come in february so it should be here soon. But until then there are no custom roms, but there are some kernel mods in the dev section that enable Overclock. Also check out the keyboard mod from diamondback.
What you should also know, atm this forum is full of people that are not happy with the prime and complain alot. Even though polls and numbers from ASUS show that over 80-90% are very happy customers those other 10-20% cry really loud, especially on this forum
So dont take it too seriously and enjoy your prime.
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Ty I am enjoying it alot at the moment... not to many apps but still amazing best tablet evr
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Wow, if there is anything you should know it's that you should've read about it before buying and probably posted this kind of inquery in a forum that's got less of a D.B. population...just saying.
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Wow, if there is anything you should know it's that you should've read about it before buying and probably posted this kind of inquery in a forum that's got less of a D.B. population...just saying.
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What do you mean by this?
What you should know about the tablet is it is great. The best tablet on the marker right now IMO. One thing is there are seemingly high amounts of issues but there is really no hard, reliable data on how many they effect. Sure there are numbers thrown around here and there but take them all with a grain of salt. That said it would be prudent for you to test out and use all the features you plan on using during ownership and ensure it does everything you expected. If not either look for a way to make it do what you need or take care of it how you see fit. Keeping it knowing that it doesn't do what you need and later crying about it helps noone.
I love mine and use it everyday for a plethora of things. It has exceeded my expectations of it and does more than I ever expected to do with it. It has totally replaced the need for me to carry around a full featured laptop and the battery life on it makes it superior to one for my use.
I answered your question then was silenced (post removed). Which proves my previous point.
I highly doubt anyone replacing a "full featured" laptop with a prime. Sure you can, but that would imply you didn't use the laptop to its full potential and prolly spent way more than you ever needed to on the laptop = overkill, prime = sensible. If you can justify $500 or $600 w/o the dock to begin w.
BTW, at least I didn't flame the op w "you need to learn how to read! there's a search button for a reason, blah blah blah"
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I answered your question then was silenced (post removed). Which proves my previous point.
I highly doubt anyone replacing a "full featured" laptop with a prime. Sure you can, but that would imply you didn't use the laptop to its full potential and prolly spent way more than you ever needed to on the laptop = overkill, prime = sensible. If you can justify $500 or $600 w/o the dock to begin w.
BTW, at least I didn't flame the op w "you need to learn how to read! there's a search button for a reason, blah blah blah"
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I don't need the services of a fully featured laptop on the go. Reading comprehension much? I happen to be a software developer so have plenty of computers and computing power at many of my destinations and when truly on the go can get to them anywhere I have wifi. For my usage, yes it does fully replace it. You don't walk in others shoes so know absolutely nothing about their usage scenarios leaving you absolutely clueless about any judgment you make upon them.
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The Bootloader unlock tool isnt released just yet. Asus announced it will come in february so it should be here soon. But until then there are no custom roms, but there are some kernel mods in the dev section that enable Overclock. Also check out the keyboard mod from diamondback.
What you should also know, atm this forum is full of people that are not happy with the prime and complain alot. Even though polls and numbers from ASUS show that over 80-90% are very happy customers those other 10-20% cry really loud, especially on this forum
So dont take it too seriously and enjoy your prime.
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Agree. Plus bootloader unlock tool was released today. plus Cm9 already working on prime. kernels, roms, etc.. Are all coming in the next few days or so.
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What do you mean by this?
What you should know about the tablet is it is great. The best tablet on the marker right now IMO. One thing is there are seemingly high amounts of issues but there is really no hard, reliable data on how many they effect. Sure there are numbers thrown around here and there but take them all with a grain of salt. That said it would be prudent for you to test out and use all the features you plan on using during ownership and ensure it does everything you expected. If not either look for a way to make it do what you need or take care of it how you see fit. Keeping it knowing that it doesn't do what you need and later crying about it helps noone.
I love mine and use it everyday for a plethora of things. It has exceeded my expectations of it and does more than I ever expected to do with it. It has totally replaced the need for me to carry around a full featured laptop and the battery life on it makes it superior to one for my use.
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Agree. I use Prime for everything. ease of use, best in market power, and battery life makes Prime a winner.
The search button is your friend.
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Agree. Plus bootloader unlock tool was released today. plus Cm9 already working on prime. kernels, roms, etc.. Are all coming in the next few days or so.
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I'm in the same position as the OP . (Just got mine yesterday). Played with Windows smartphones, but this is my first Android machine and tablet. I have a number of questions:
1)What's the difference between the unlock tool and "rooting"? I thought they were the same thing.
2) Ad-hoc network on the Prime - Reading thru posts, it seems Android doesn't recognize Ad-hoc networks. Others have made "mods" for Froyo, and others say it didn't work on Gingerbread, so I'm assuming I'd have difficulty with ICS. Does anyone have a suggestion on where to look for a workable solution for the Prime + ICS?
Ad-hoc networking (thru my Verizon TouchPro 2/Win6.5+SSK ROM) smartphone is going to be my access to the internet when away from home.
I know I can search, but since Prime is so new, most posts refer to other devices, I'm hoping someone can save me days of searching.
Thanks in advance.
This forum seems to be running down in terms of activity and the direction and tone of the threads. "I exchanged/ Best Buy exchanged my Prime for an Infinity"; "Ready to switch to N7?"; on the beta test thread..."I'm interested in Win8 tablets..."; 2 weeks since the last word from Gary.
I'm feeling despondent about my purchase. I wanted it to be so good and coming on here has slowly corroded my positivity. Dump upon dump upon dump of dissatisfaction with the product. Moan upon moan upon moan about Asus. Trouble is I don't know anymore if I have wasted my money and been taken for a ride by an unscrupulous organization or users with technical expertise are too demanding and miffed because their expectations have not been met.
I thought the Prime was going to be the ultimate when I bought it. Now, it was just a dream.
Being popular and functional has been removed from the marketing materials. It should not be expected functionality of the TF201 any more.
Well i feel the same about the forum, but, what is there to post about atm?
The prime was and is a very nice tablet but others have come out in the meantime that are just as good or even better in some aspects. So i think people that always need the latest and greatest have moved on.
I think the recent issues are known (I/O, gaming crash&hangs, rnd reboots) and dont need to be further discussed. So i guess people are just waiting for the next update to come in which will hopefully fix one of the remaining issues. And i think the majority of XDA prime users have already unlocked anyway and installed a custom rom so they are probably discussing/talking in the dev section in the custom rom threads.
I'm one of those that havent unlocked yet because i'm really happy with my prime EXCEPT for the gaming lock ups. So i said to myself i'll wait for another update or probably until JellyBean hits (which should be in the next month i think). If things wont be fixed by then i'll unlock and install a custom rom.
I think you have summed it up nicely. I will eventually unlock and install a custom Rom. I just wish I didn't have to rely on the passion of enthusiasts to get what I thought I paid for.
These forums have a tendency to go through cycles, the only ones that stay consistently busy are the nexus forums
update is likely to be worth waiting for. give it another week or 2 at most. if nothing by then unlock. androwookie 2.1 is a great rom and is paired with the hard hitting motley kernel.
Unlock, install custom ROMs now, thank me later.
The reason I say this is it actually makes the tablet behave the way it was supposed to. The difference in the ICS ROMs is huge and the JB ROMs are so buttery smooth and fast... not quite there yet feature wise but only a matter of time
The reason why I have not unlocked the PRIME because of green camera. I may send to RMA soon but there is another tangle that the Prime may not be unlocked after RMA. So It is hard for me to make decision right now. Still waiting for little later to see what is going on.
Forum is not the device
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This forum seems to be running down in terms of activity and the direction and tone of the threads. "I exchanged/ Best Buy exchanged my Prime for an Infinity"; "Ready to switch to N7?"; on the beta test thread..."I'm interested in Win8 tablets..."; 2 weeks since the last word from Gary.
I'm feeling despondent about my purchase. I wanted it to be so good and coming on here has slowly corroded my positivity. Dump upon dump upon dump of dissatisfaction with the product. Moan upon moan upon moan about Asus. Trouble is I don't know anymore if I have wasted my money and been taken for a ride by an unscrupulous organization or users with technical expertise are too demanding and miffed because their expectations have not been met.
I thought the Prime was going to be the ultimate when I bought it. Now, it was just a dream.
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Don't let the negativity on the forum make you "despondant". Base your opinions on your own experience and weather or not it is meeting your needs. I've yet to have a device of any brand, model, or OS where the associated forum did not end up devolving into a complaint/rant area. This is particularly true when you are between major updates because there is nothing big new to talk about so only the people who have problems and/or are dissatisfied spend a lot of time posting.
This is normal/typical.
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This forum seems to be running down in terms of activity and the direction and tone of the threads. "I exchanged/ Best Buy exchanged my Prime for an Infinity"; "Ready to switch to N7?"; on the beta test thread..."I'm interested in Win8 tablets..."; 2 weeks since the last word from Gary.
I'm feeling despondent about my purchase. I wanted it to be so good and coming on here has slowly corroded my positivity. Dump upon dump upon dump of dissatisfaction with the product. Moan upon moan upon moan about Asus. Trouble is I don't know anymore if I have wasted my money and been taken for a ride by an unscrupulous organization or users with technical expertise are too demanding and miffed because their expectations have not been met.
I thought the Prime was going to be the ultimate when I bought it. Now, it was just a dream.
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Just remember that only guys with problems populate these forums, which is not wrong. Just note that not everybody has problems. I have a prime and I have not had any problems till date. Just see if you are satisfied with the purchase. Currently my prime is good and the only worry I have is what the JB will bring to me. Hopefully it does not screw up my prime
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Check out the HD2 forums... that phone is just insane lol.
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Check out the HD2 forums... that phone is just insane lol.
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That phone is just insane :laugh:
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Don't let the negativity on the forum make you "despondant". Base your opinions on your own experience and weather or not it is meeting your needs. I've yet to have a device of any brand, model, or OS where the associated forum did not end up devolving into a complaint/rant area. This is particularly true when you are between major updates because there is nothing big new to talk about so only the people who have problems and/or are dissatisfied spend a lot of time posting.
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Not quite true...
Sure, there will always be complaints and/or issues. But most of the time not as massive as with the prime and not without reason. There simply ARE quite a number of issues with the prime and it does not quite deliver up to the hype. At least, not for a lot of people.
I'm usually lurking, but thought I'd share my two cents on this topic. I, unlike a lot of people here, have had hardly any issues. My prime doesn't flicker, my games don't crash, no light bleed, and my wifi works fine. The only issue I had was with the GPS not being accurate, but to me it's a non-issue since I don't use my tablet for navigation (that's what I use the Galaxy S2 for if I need it!). Also in case anyone is wondering I'm not rooted. So honestly for me the Prime is everything I thought it would be plus some. I use it everyday for reading news, books, watch some episodes of my favorite tv shows during lunch at work, or do some digital sketching, etc. It's an excellent tool for media, learning and productivity.
I think that most prime owners who aren't having any issues aren't posting in these forums. I see tons of negativity about the Prime everyday I come to the forums. I never post anything because I don't have any of those issues. It sucks that a lot of prime owners here have so many issues because it really is a great product. I'm willing to bet some of the people posting about the issues are the cause of their own problem and some of the problems are directly related Asus.
I wouldn't write off the prime or Asus to be honest, but that's my opinion. I've had very little issue with them. I also own the OG Transformer and again...none of the issues others were having except the lag. I hope Asus works out the kinks with the hardware and software related issues everyone seems to be having. Again....just my two cents.
The current wave of trade ups for the Infinity could accelerate the Prime's fate into a collector's tablet. As the total number of owned units out there decrease, so will the need to support it and I wouldn't be surprised if Asus is trying to bury both the 201 and 300 into oblivion in order to focus on the 700 and beyond.
I agree
I have had my Prime since day one Dec 23rd never had any issues with it. Yes GPS sucks but I don't use it for that. Everything runs fine on it and again based on the roms we are running. I was rooted and unlocked after a few weeks. But I understand the frustration about development. There are only a few real roms out there and are very close to stock, no real themes or tweaking, seems these are only updated when Asus releases a major update. I used to own a Samsung Captivate and would flash it ever day with different roms with tweaks up grade different flavors from the devs. but for a device as strong as the Prime was/is and for it now being out 9 months you would think there would be more working with it and more development than it really has. I thank the devs who are working on things for our Prime and I appreciate the work they put into making it better.
Completely true
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Not quite true...
Sure, there will always be complaints and/or issues. But most of the time not as massive as with the prime and not without reason. There simply ARE quite a number of issues with the prime and it does not quite deliver up to the hype. At least, not for a lot of people.
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Though there is one "Positive" I love my Prime sort of thread out there, it is almost universally true that on all XDA (and other forums) nearly 100% of the discussions come down to one of three things:
1. "I'm having problems...."
2. "When are we going to get our next update..." and complaining about why it takes so long.
3. Developers/tweaking/custom ROM discussions. This one is often at least indirectly related to 1 and 2.
This is the nature of the beast with forums. Pick out pretty much any device you want and its all the same. People for whom everything is working they way they want it to don't bother starting a thread. What are they going to say? "Gee, just starting a thread to say all is well!" It just doesn't work that way.
I stick by my original statement that said "Don't let the negativity on the forum make you "despondant". Base your opinions on your own experience and weather or not it is meeting your needs. "
I already sent the letter to ASUS support. I hope to hear something back.
Dear Asus,
I have owned many consumer electronic devices and I must say, the TF201 is hands down the WORST piece of gadget I have ever owned. Nothing about it works and the worst part is, you are reluctant to help us to make it work.
For 10 months, we, the users, have been beta testing the TF201 so that you can develop better, improved products like the 700. We paid over 500 dollars to test products for you and receive no support. We have been through numerous ANR on simple tasks such as web browsing or playing a 2D game. Seriously? Is this what we paid 500 dollars for? Not only that, every subsequent firmware update did nothing to improve the product. Yet asus hasn't done much to help the situation. You provide the users with a half baked bootloader unlock tool that doesn't work for 50% of the users (check XDA). When asked to fix the bootloader unlock tool, ASUS says they dont support unlocking the device and can't do anything about it. Asus requested users to RMA their device to fix the bootloaded issue yet when the users get it back, there had been no change. No issues were addressed. Now we are stuck with a garbage firmware from ASUS that can’t even do the simplest things right and users can't even put a custom ROM to help make our experience better.
Two days ago, you released an OTA for jellybean which failed to update for about half the existing owners. Now when we check for the update, the tablet can't find it anymore and we are stuck with the same crappy 4.0.3 firmware. The devs are going above and beyond to modify the update file so it can work for everyone (check XDA) since asus is too lazy to upload the firmware on their support/download page. I got a question for you ASUS, can you do ANYTHING right? How much do you have to suck to screw up an OTA? I have used many android products from many vendors and NONE of them had nearly as many issues as the TF201. In the dev community it is called the bastard child. Many owners simply sold it at a loss or were successful at trading it at bestbuy for something else since Asus would not support them. You have the courage to charge customer $500+ for such a garbage device yet you provide this level of support? I understand problems happen and users are willing to cope with issues. But the least you could do is support your product by providing us with a functioning bootloader unlocker so the users that are having problems with the garbage firmware can at least use a custom firmware to make it useable again. We paid for this device and we expect some level of functionality such as browsing the web for the money we paid. At the very least, you can upload the new firmware on the support page so users who are having issues downloading the firmware (because some engineers can’t even make a functioning OTA) can at least manually upgrade to 4.1.
Overall, I must say, this tablet has done nothing more than frustrating me. Every time I go to use it, something goes wrong. I hope someone reads this email and feels guilty for charging upwards of $500 to deliver such subpar device to its consumers. At the very least, check out the XDA forum for TF201 and see how much time is being spent by users to simply get a straightforward OTA. Finally, if asus can’t deliver remotely what they promised, they should leave the tablet game for companies that know how to build a decent firmware or OTA.
Sincerely,
A disappointed customer
Given their track record, they will probably ignore it. I dont expect to hear anything back.
I have the same feelings as you, but post this on their facebook page or something if you want it to make some kind of impact. Here on XDA there are what, like 2 Asus marketing employees who occasionally come by?
Your opinion
I respect your right to have an opinion. I actually only come to this developers website to read productive opinions. Your opinion has no purpose here other than to fan the flames of your ire. It's useless for productive people and the moderators should delete your thread.
Yuhfhrh said:
I have the same feelings as you, but post this on their facebook page or something if you want it to make some kind of impact. Here on XDA there are what, like 2 Asus marketing employees who occasionally come by?
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I already posted on their FB page. But they deleted it. So I emailed them directly. I am looking for Jony shi's email address so I can email him personally. I am pretty sure he has no clue how bad the team F'ed it up
I thought most people who had issues with the OTA had rooted their tablet and messed with it somehow. To me it seems like asus has made sure the update works for everyone who hasn't done anything to their prime and that it doesn't brick anyones tablet, and it seems many people are able to get their tablet back into a state such that they can install the update. I really don't think we could expect them to do much more.
Also I don't get why the download problems where so terrible, it's still only been two days since the first release and I think most people are able to get the update pretty quickly now.
And also note that not only did they get us jellybean quicker than most other devices, but they also fixed one of the biggest issues with the prime (ANR). The only thing I really am disappointed over is the lack of status updates leading up to the release.
whycali said:
I respect your right to have an opinion. I actually only come to this developers website to read productive opinions. Your opinion has no purpose here other than to fan the flames of your ire. It's useless for productive people and the moderators should delete your thread.
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This kind of attitude of being quiet and trying to figure things out by ourselves is why ASUS can get away with it. No one brings it up. TF201 is probably the worst tablet out their for android in its price range and it has been 10 months and there have been no improvements. I am not whining, I am just stating something that is unfair. No matter how much the devs try, they can't unlock the prime unless ASUS does something. And most of us dont have hours to fiddle with something like OTA that should just work. So we SHOULD bring up the issue. I think more people should contact ASUS directly until something is done because clearly we can't solve the problem.
We deserve something better than a paperweight for $500.
eiriklf said:
I thought most people who had issues with the OTA had rooted their tablet and messed with it somehow. To me it seems like asus has made sure the update works for everyone who hasn't done anything to their prime and that it doesn't brick anyones tablet, and it seems many people are able to get their tablet back into a state such that they can install the update. I really don't think we could expect them to do much more.
Also I don't get why the download problems where so terrible, it's still only been two days since the first release and I think most people are able to get the update pretty quickly now.
And also note that not only did they get us jellybean quicker than most other devices, but they also fixed one of the biggest issues with the prime (ANR). The only thing I really am disappointed over is the lack of status updates leading up to the release.
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I am stock unrooted. My download failed and my tablet can't find it anymore. And ASSUS is too busy watching porn and dont have the time to upload the firmware to their website.
applesuckz said:
This kind of attitude of being quiet and trying to figure things out by ourselves is why ASUS can get away with it. No one brings it up. TF201 is probably the worst tablet out their for android in its price range and it has been 10 months and there have been no improvements. I am not whining, I am just stating something that is unfair. No matter how much the devs try, they can't unlock the prime unless ASUS does something. And most of us dont have hours to fiddle with something like OTA that should just work. So we SHOULD bring up the issue. I think more people should contact ASUS directly until something is done because clearly we can't solve the problem.
We deserve something better than a paperweight for $500.
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Although I agree with the sentiment (I too have a prime) i'm seriously fed up of coming on this forum and seeing people complain.
there are enough complaint threads already.
I am fortunate enough to have been able to unlock my device, but that in itself contains massive risks (I almost bricked mine a couple of weeks ago)
when trying to look for a solution to my partial brick, all I could find were complaint threads. even semi useful threads were full of complaints. this made the task very frustrating.
By all means complain to Asus... but PLEASE enough with these threads and all of the thread jacking that is going on.. I want rid of my prime not because of performance, but because I can't read any thread in any section of the Prime forum without having to hear the same people complaining again and again.
I'm sorry if this seems confrontational, but I have seriously had enough of it!!
P.S. OP, please change the subject of this post to something more relevant like "My complaint letter to Asus ( Yet another complaint thread)"
applesuckz said:
This kind of attitude of being quiet and trying to figure things out by ourselves is why ASUS can get away with it. No one brings it up. TF201 is probably the worst tablet out their for android in its price range and it has been 10 months and there have been no improvements. I am not whining, I am just stating something that is unfair. No matter how much the devs try, they can't unlock the prime unless ASUS does something. And most of us dont have hours to fiddle with something like OTA that should just work. So we SHOULD bring up the issue. I think more people should contact ASUS directly until something is done because clearly we can't solve the problem.
We deserve something better than a paperweight for $500.
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My point is that this post here is not that thing you claim to want. Nobody here works for asus and nobody here is looking for the opinion of the unhappy user. Its been done to death and is not an original thought.
People dont come to this site (or shouldnt) hoping the manufacturer is here to fix the problems they have.
I honestly don't know what you're trying to achieve here. First of all, this is what, the 14th thousand complaint thread OF THE DAY? We get it, you hate your device. Now be a big boy and sell the damn thing if you're so fed up with it. Second of all, if you want Asus to take your letter seriously, or read it without groaning like I did, don't use phrases like "how much do you have to suck" or "crappy, garbage firmware". If you expect Asus to respond professionally, I'd start by not sounding like a 12 year old boy that had his toy broken.
Jellybean's been out 2 days. TWO WHOPPING DAYS. If you can't access the update now I'd suggest you wait a week or two, because evidently you're not the only Prime user in the world. There are plenty of people who are also attempting to update their device, and mind I point out that many have gotten the new firmware and are quite happy with the result. There's no need to throw a fit simply because you weren't among the firsts in line.
Finally, don't complain about not being able to put custom ROMs on your device. That's not Asus' problem. We all know that unlocking the bootloader and flashing custom ROMs void the warranty. No one forced you to do it, and if you did it and borked your device, Asus has no obligation to fix it for you. I fully understand the risks of tampering with the firmware, and if tomorrow I flashed something new and bricked my Prime, I wouldn't go running to Asus and demand an answer.
I have my fair share of problems with the Prime, trust me. But this forum has brought whining to a whole new level.
sorry fellas i have to agree with op. and im not hatin on asus. i have a nexus seven and two high end asus laptops (though the keyboards are absolute ****) which i love. the prime is the biggest piece of **** ever sold to the american public. i mean really? you bottleneck the device by having horribly slow storage? and a device that is only wifi with **** wifi?
i took mine back to best buy today and recieved a 538 dollar credit. so it was made right by best buy. praise baby jesus that POS is gone and i didnt take a loss.
I wish i could get my money back for this POS from gamestop or asus. I shouldnt have to sell it for a loss because of asuses broken promises and lack of competence.
whycali said:
My point is that this post here is not that thing you claim to want. Nobody here works for asus and nobody here is looking for the opinion of the unhappy user. Its been done to death and is not an original thought.
People dont come to this site (or shouldnt) hoping the manufacturer is here to fix the problems they have.
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I don't get it. While I do understand that Prime XDA forum is nothing but complaints (I wonder why...), you also have an option to not read any of them. But you continue to reply to majority of them... mock the individual... and say "blah blah blah"... just as useless as many other complaint threads as you put it.
And really?? Gary Key doesn't work for Asus? Asus_Tien doesn't work for Asus??
Same for my.deleate mesage and user....
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I actually do agree with whycali... we have too many thread complaining about the device... what is the point? does the number of threads make a difference to Asus?... if you have problems with the device, that's really bad luck, but use an existing thread instead of creating a new one... I rarely read these thread of complaints, but it's becoming really hard to find useful threads...
craigacgomez said:
I actually do agree with whycali... we have too many thread complaining about the device... what is the point? does the number of threads make a difference to Asus?... if you have problems with the device, that's really bad luck, but use an existing thread instead of creating a new one... I rarely read these thread of complaints, but it's becoming really hard to find useful threads...
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I agree... I almost didn't buy my prime because of all the negative things that have been said here. Thankfully I decided to make up my own mind and im glad i did. Best thing i have bought myself in awhile.
Thankfully im reporting non of the issue's that everyone else has been. maybe im Lucky or people are just blowing things out of proportion. Ive been using ASUS products for years and Ive never had problems with any of their products.... can't believe that their build quality has went down that much since the last computer i built which is still running fine today.
TANIS8585 said:
I agree... I almost didn't buy my prime because of all the negative things that have been said here. Thankfully I decided to make up my own mind and im glad i did. Best thing i have bought myself in awhile.
Thankfully im reporting non of the issue's that everyone else has been. maybe im Lucky or people are just blowing things out of proportion. Ive been using ASUS products for years and Ive never had problems with any of their products.... can't believe that their build quality has went down that much since the last computer i built which is still running fine today.
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Yes, I love this device... I've had no problems with anything so far... and it's the best device I've purchased...
I don't think their build quality has really gone down... cuz like you I've been using Asus products for a while...maybe it's just one of those devices.... something that every company faces...
craigacgomez said:
Yes, I love this device... I've had no problems with anything so far... and it's the best device I've purchased...
I don't think their build quality has really gone down... cuz like you I've been using Asus products for a while...maybe it's just one of those devices.... something that every company faces...
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Well as long as mine works perfectly it doesn't matter what anybody says.... just sad that i come on here to discuss what people are doing with their tabs and what cool things are being done and all i see is negativity.
out of every forum here on xda ive looked at this one for the prime seems to be the worst.
I get that the prime is not perfect and has its flaws, but what i really don't get is why people are upset about OTA problem^^
OTA's are supposed to work for stock devices, if you do stuff like rooting and modding you should be aware that OTAs might not work anymore. Yes even rooting and installing busybox will modify your system and may cause OTA problems.
I personally have no problems with my prime. Happy user since last January. And now it has jellay bean! <3 loving it so far
rosebud said:
Although I agree with the sentiment (I too have a prime) i'm seriously fed up of coming on this forum and seeing people complain.
there are enough complaint threads already.
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I'm personally fed up with people being fed up at seeing so many complaint threads. Be mad at Asus for selling us a crappy product and not supporting it. This product deserves to have an XDA thread chock full of complaint threads to remind people who see them what a garbage company Asus is.