My TouchWiz keeps having to redraw itself after exiting from big apps, such as Browser and Facebook. Also, I find that the browser have to reload opened tabs very frequently; sometimes just existing the browser momentarily to reply a facebook message leads to a tab refresh.
Are these signs of insufficient ram or are these problems software related? Any experts care to shed some light on this issue?
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My TouchWiz keeps having to redraw itself after exiting from big apps, such as Browser and Facebook. Also, I find that the browser have to reload opened tabs very frequently; sometimes just existing the browser momentarily to reply a facebook message leads to a tab refresh.
Are these signs of insufficient ram or are these problems software related? Any experts care to shed some light on this issue?
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Mate same here. I have also lock ups with some apps like messaging and browser as well. Tsk!
bam88 said:
My TouchWiz keeps having to redraw itself after exiting from big apps, such as Browser and Facebook. Also, I find that the browser have to reload opened tabs very frequently; sometimes just existing the browser momentarily to reply a facebook message leads to a tab refresh.
Are these signs of insufficient ram or are these problems software related? Any experts care to shed some light on this issue?
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Go into settings, accessibility and use the process manager. Use it and see if you still have the problem. Chances are that it maybe ram or software.
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One x had that problem too, it has been fixed with latest ota update. Maybe samsung has this problem too
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More than enough for GB not nearly enough for ICS. 2GB will be just right for an ICS phone with a custom skin. 1GB for the OS itself 512mb for TW and all the background services/ cached apps and 512mb for the user to run his desired apps.
There is a simple rule in computing - more memory (more resources of any kind) never hurt. Yes, people can quote all the articles they want about mobile OS's not needing that much ram, but -
- Android is not nearly as optimized as WP7/iOS
- Android likes to keep more apps open, it was designed to multitask
- over the next 2 years, memory demands will increase. Every version of Android uses more ram
Trust me, you won't see any high end Android phones with less than 1.5GB ram very soon.
I even think Samsung will release 2 Gb ram version of international GS3 in the next six months. They should have done it at the first place and that would have made the phone more future proof.
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More than enough for GB not nearly enough for ICS. 2GB will be just right for an ICS phone with a custom skin. 1GB for the OS itself 512mb for TW and all the background services/ cached apps and 512mb for the user to run his desired apps.
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You speak the truth.
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rakeshchn said:
I even think Samsung will release 2 Gb ram version of international GS3 in the next six months. They should have done it at the first place and that would have made the phone more future proof.
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I think they like selling more phones more regularly
rakeshchn said:
I even think Samsung will release 2 Gb ram version of international GS3 in the next six months. They should have done it at the first place and that would have made the phone more future proof.
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How would they make money from mobile sales if you didn't "need" to buy their new phone in 6 months?
EVERY phone company would be thinking about their next model months before the latest phone has even hit the shelves.
They give you what you need not what you will need
They should develop 'virtual memory' like in windows and make use of the 16gb,
tadas_max said:
One x had that problem too, it has been fixed with latest ota update. Maybe samsung has this problem too
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I saw that on my friend One x... I couldnt beleive my eyes .. Top model device redraws launcher when exiting browser... Same problems like on old Desire...
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rakeshchn said:
I even think Samsung will release 2 Gb ram version of international GS3 in the next six months. They should have done it at the first place and that would have made the phone more future proof.
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I'm calling it now. Samsung will release the Galaxy S3D(eluxe) with 64GB of storage and 2GB of RAM.
Gusta_HR said:
I saw that on my friend One x... I couldnt beleive my eyes .. Top model device redraws launcher when exiting browser... Same problems like on old Desire...
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Same thing is happening to Galaxy S III as well! Not a dealbreaker, but still bothers me a bit. The thing is, I don't remember this happening to my Galaxy S II.
To all of you, open build.prop with a root explorer and change
Code:
dalvik.vm.heapsize=256m
to
Code:
dalvik.vm.heapsize=128m
and all should be good.
Don't forget to reboot afterwards, otherwise the setting won't be applied.
my S2 hang when open game that use feint.. i think i doesn't support so many app to be open frequently.. or maybe i used gb4.03 and used so many flash app
Guys I'm facing the same problem. When I received my new phone, it was working beautifully. During the next 2-3 days, I tired using all the features and apps like drop box, ChatOn, S Voice, Voice cmds and all other frills. Then I downloaded few apps like Ultra Keyboard, SwiftKeyboard Trial, Ex Dialer, Dolphin Browser HD. Done some heavy surfing, downloaded mails and stuff like that and my phone started to lag heavily. TouchWiz started to redraw every time. Then I had a look at the available RAM. First of all it was only 780 out of 1GB and then free was only 23 MB. Then I looked into the list of cached processes and it was a long list. I restarted my phone, disabled most of the apps, downloaded Apex launcher, set the debugging option to limit background processes to 4 and my RAM is normally around 150-200 MB free. But I can see that it is depleting. Also on the Apex launcher, it happened that while returning from my G Talk, then screen went black for almost 5-7 seconds as if the phone froze. But it came out. I re-checked the memory and it was around 158MB. So I don't know why this happened but it is frustrating to have a top notch device and this kind of experience. Any suggestions?
Hotobu said:
I'm calling it now. Samsung will release the Galaxy S3D(eluxe) with 64GB of storage and 2GB of RAM.
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i dont think so... if it does then the phone will reach the price of 3k
Tectas said:
To all of you, open build.prop with a root explorer and change
Code:
dalvik.vm.heapsize=256m
to
Code:
dalvik.vm.heapsize=128m
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I was just about to type the exact same thing. I'm in the process of trying it out, seems to be working.
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i dont think so... if it does then the phone will reach the price of 3k
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That makes no ****ing sense.
(I only "thanked" you by accident. If I could unthank you twice and leave you at -1 I would)
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I'm on the HOX now and I'm really disappointed by it's multitasking.
I cannot toggle between my GPS mapping software and the camera without the mapping app to restart.
So is the S3 any better?
Thx
i had the same problem in gnote as well. when navigation is enabled and when u switch between apps, it restarts. quite normal i guess.
nearlygod said:
I'm on the HOX now and I'm really disappointed by it's multitasking.
I cannot toggle between my GPS mapping software and the camera without the mapping app to restart.
So is the S3 any better?
Thx
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HOX I couldn't open up more than 4 apps. With the sgs3 I can open 6 to 8 before they freeze as in they will refresh on opening.
The American ones should be able to open 8 to 12 because the adreno takes up quite a bit but it has 2 gb of ram. Unless if the cpu can handle so many open progresses.
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Hello,
I had the Note and the multitasking was great same is the gs3.
If you use gmaps when you want to switch apps press long the home button and select from last used apps and when you will renter maps it will continue and not reload
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nearlygod said:
I'm on the HOX now and I'm really disappointed by it's multitasking.
I cannot toggle between my GPS mapping software and the camera without the mapping app to restart.
So is the S3 any better?
Thx
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Multitasking is pretty good on the gs3. I can have 5 or 6 apps open and switch between them without reloads. But it depends on the ram usage of each app. But right now for example I can switch between camera, navigation, evernote and tapatalk without any reloading.
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thank you guys,
has anybody tried to switch between something like oruxmaps or Mytrails and the camera.
allow yourself a minute or two with the camera. Does the map app still run?
thx, nearly
I had the Evo LTE and I couldn't handle the multitasking too many resets. Hopefully which I'm sure the Sammy will multitask like the Nexus.
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nearlygod said:
I'm on the HOX now and I'm really disappointed by it's multitasking.
I cannot toggle between my GPS mapping software and the camera without the mapping app to restart.
So is the S3 any better?
Thx
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I had HOX and multitasking sucked on that. It's amazing on gs3!
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I have the EVO LTE and multi tasking sucks on this. Its just a loaner til the gs3 is in stock.
SlimJ87D said:
HOX I couldn't open up more than 4 apps. With the sgs3 I can open 6 to 8 before they freeze as in they will refresh on opening.
The American ones should be able to open 8 to 12 because the adreno takes up quite a bit but it has 2 gb of ram. Unless if the cpu can handle so many open progresses.
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With 2gb the American version can only open 2-4 apps more than than the 1gb version? Please watch some videos of the optimus LTE 2 in action. It had the same S4 chip and theres over 1.2gb free ram when in use compared to 100-200mbps on the sgs3 1gb.
I don't have baller phones like you guys to compare to since I came from the nexus s. But the multitasking on this phone is phenomenal. can someone correct me if i'm wrong but I thought it was an ics problem. When upgrading to ics on my nexus s, Google maps restarted all the time. It was really annoying because i'd be driving and if I turned off the screen to save batteries and turned it back on to check the distance, it would have to relocate my position and then on the gps again. Maybe there's a setting to turn out off? I haven't tried with my s3 yet.
btw, for multitasking, I skype my gf, play scramble, surf the web, take pictures, and send and chat on whatsapp all at the same time no problem. We skype for a long time so sometimes there's a lot of apps running at the same time.
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I don't have baller phones like you guys to compare to since I came from the nexus s. But the multitasking on this phone is phenomenal. can someone correct me if i'm wrong but I thought it was an ics problem. When upgrading to ics on my nexus s, Google maps restarted all the time. It was really annoying because i'd be driving and if I turned off the screen to save batteries and turned it back on to check the distance, it would have to relocate my position and then on the gps again. Maybe there's a setting to turn out off? I haven't tried with my s3 yet.
btw, for multitasking, I skype my gf, play scramble, surf the web, take pictures, and send and chat on whatsapp all at the same time no problem. We skype for a long time so sometimes there's a lot of apps running at the same time.
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Yup a bunch of other phones on ics also have this multitask problem including the HTC one x, HTC sensation, galaxy note. They are fine before on GB. But I get flamed for saying it had to do with ICS or phones have insufficient memory for it.
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With 2gb the American version can only open 2-4 apps more than than the 1gb version? Please watch some videos of the optimus LTE 2 in action. It had the same S4 chip and theres over 1.2gb free ram when in use compared to 100-200mbps on the sgs3 1gb.
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Why would you only be able to just have 2-4 more app's? A lot of the first gb of Ram has the samsung OS running in it, so it takes up a lot of room. But us US versions have a whole other gb of Ram to play with. So we should be able to have a lot of open apps before stuff starts closing on us.
Most OS's (android and touchwiz) take up a lot of Ram, and leave you with no so much Ram left for app's if you have 1gb. So the multitasking aspect is going to be not so great.That's why I feel that the 2gb of ram will alleviate a lot of the android OS issues.
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Why would you only be able to just have 2-4 more app's? A lot of the first gb of Ram has the samsung OS running in it, so it takes up a lot of room. But us US versions have a whole other gb of Ram to play with. So we should be able to have a lot of open apps before stuff starts closing on us.
Most OS's (android and touchwiz) take up a lot of Ram, and leave you with no so much Ram left for app's if you have 1gb. So the multitasking aspect is going to be not so great.That's why I feel that the 2gb of ram will alleviate a lot of the android OS issues.
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Agreed. I was responding to his ridiculous assumption.
I just tried this: I opened the camera app and my GPS software (Navigon Europe)
It worked fine to switch between the two, there was no reloading. I also had 13 other apps backgrounded at the time of testing.
I'm running HyperGalaxy ROM v.0.2
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Those 13 apps were probably not all in memory. If you'd tried switching to a few of them you'd have experienced a reload. If they were all active then kudos to Samsung.
Confirmed. No multitasking issue on SGS3
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HTC one X "multitasking issue" is intended, HTC did memory management like that, that said you can fix it yourself with a script and it will work just great like that: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeOZtvlK08c
I'm using GNote with AKOP, I can switch between gmap and camera without reset. I can test my colleague 's stock gnote ics tmr.
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I just opened maps, camera, browser and xda. Switched between all 4 with no reloads. Multi tasking sorted for one x on latest update.
Just switched all tasks again and all in memory.
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I am wondering if any roms are currently able to correct Sense Multitasking where all apps have to reload. Even Sense UI itself will reload at times. Is this an issue that can ever be fixed? Do we have to wait for HTC to release the source code for these issues to be addressed? Thanks for the info
use v6 supercharger then you can set whatever memory values you want..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16635544#post16635544
no rom has fixed it yet, and those instructions are hard as hell to follow..
I know its been said but my Palm Pre from 3 years ago with 256mb of ram could keep and run a dozen apps at once. On my Evo 4g LTE if I'm playing Angry Birds, get an e-mail and go back its reloads like it was never up in the first place.
HTC needs to find a better way to utilize this 1gb of ram...I miss my WebOS.
Try ram manager in the playstore by juwe11,same idea as v6 just in app form. Theres a free one also just less options. I've been using it forever, it definitely works.
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sbjohnny said:
I know its been said but my Palm Pre from 3 years ago with 256mb of ram could keep and run a dozen apps at once. On my Evo 4g LTE if I'm playing Angry Birds, get an e-mail and go back its reloads like it was never up in the first place.
HTC needs to find a better way to utilize this 1gb of ram...I miss my WebOS.
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Ahhh...WebOS....I still pull out my Palm Pre from time to time and play with it. Nothing has even come close to the smoothness & efficiency at multitasking the way WebOS did it. I love Android but WebOS is still my favorite mobile OS. Shame it never caught on.
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I agree, I had hope that or would make it big. I hope the open source version is released soon
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On Purpose?
I read an article that actually said that HTC did this on purpose with the one line of phones.
Ok. I am a s3 user for last month. But disappointed on s3 multitasking capabilities. Seriously If u r playing a basic game like angry birds and if u got a call in middle after finishing call the game reload s itself. Wtf. My old lg optimus net with 512mb ram and arv6 800 mhz pro works good at these things. I was able to use uc browser, equilizer app, songs playing in background and also whats app same time on lg op net. But on s3 having quad 1gb ram it sucks. Some times it reloads equilizer app also that hardly takes 2 or 4 mb
I guess because sammy has loaded so much bloatware that leads to 650 or 700 mb ram always in use. What is the use of these specs then????? :banghead:
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Yeah, it isn't. They've really messed it up.
There's nothing that we can do about stock, though. Just move on or go for a custom ROM/kernel.
rohan_avni said:
Ok. I am a s3 user for last month. But disappointed on s3 multitasking capabilities. Seriously If u r playing a basic game like angry birds and if u got a call in middle after finishing call the game reload s itself. Wtf. My old lg optimus net with 512mb ram and arv6 800 mhz pro works good at these things. I was able to use uc browser, equilizer app, songs playing in background and also whats app same time on lg op net. But on s3 having quad 1gb ram it sucks. Some times it reloads equilizer app also that hardly takes 2 or 4 mb
I guess because sammy has loaded so much bloatware that leads to 650 or 700 mb ram always in use. What is the use of these specs then????? :banghead:
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It's not due to the bloatware. It's actually a problem with ICS and jellybean. They just use more ram than the older versions of android. For example, my old galaxy s could multitask amazingly well on froyo 2.2.1 but not as well on gingerbread and worse on cm10. Similarly, your lg optimus was probably on froyo of gingerbread, which inherently use less ram. Even if you disabled all the s3's bloatware, you'd only get a minor increase in multitasking capabilities. In order to multitask well on ICS or jb, you'd need 2gb of ram. Hopefully, android 5.0 will optimise ram usage and make multitasking better on 1gb ram phones.
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Yeah, it isn't. They've really messed it up.
There's nothing that we can do about stock, though. Just move on or go for a custom ROM/kernel.
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Hmmm thank u for not bashing me. I thought I might have hurt the ego of sammys fans. But really unrooted and on stock it really suck. No use of quad core and gig of ram. Any other solution than rooting???
Yup my op net is on gingerbread 2.3.4 hope that 5.0 will resolve this issue. How u ppl managing this?? Even while using xda app I just pressed home button to check new sms and in background sonsgs also playing. After replying to sms I tap on xda app and guess what it reloads. I have to find whole way to this thread.
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Hmmm thank u for not bashing me. I thought I might have hurt the ego of sammys fans. But really unrooted and on stock it really suck. No use of quad core and gig of ram. Any other solution than rooting???
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Uhh!!
No. Nobody would bash you for this post.
Unless you spam the forum.
I was almost bashed for that yesterday..
LOL
i think some people said MB1 - MB2 Roms has a bit better ram management maybe u can try
and the weird thing my 2 years old GS2 multitask 1000% times better than GS3 ( both on 4.1.2 ) samsung need to fix this **** for their flagship :silly::silly:
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i think some people said MB1 - MB2 Roms has a bit better ram management maybe u can try
and the weird thing my 2 years old GS2 multitask 1000% times better than GS3 ( both on 4.1.2 ) samsung need to fix this **** for their flagship :silly::silly:
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I tried 4.2 leak and Samsung improved memory management on it but that leak has it's own share of bugs and I'm back on 4.1 better to wait for new leak or final product.
rohan_avni said:
Hmmm thank u for not bashing me. I thought I might have hurt the ego of sammys fans. But really unrooted and on stock it really suck. No use of quad core and gig of ram. Any other solution than rooting???
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No, no; I wouldn't bash you for this. The multitasking issue is a big thing and has been present for a long time. For example, look at my review post and look at the list of negatives: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=37700176&postcount=9061
Multitasking really, really sucks on the S3! Samsung have done an awful job.
I really hope Google can fix two major things on the next iteration of Android's OS;
1) Better RAM management (which would improve multitasking and load)
2) Giving us cloud storage for game data (it would be a huge help for those people who wipe or switch ROMs)
Hmmm really hoping that sammy will fix this annoying issue asap. I dnt want to root and install custome rom just nw. I can experiment with these things on my old lg. Its on jb cm 10 already but camera not working. But my s3 is new so will use it stock. Also afraid of sds.
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Nice review mate. :thumbup:
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Well no doubt multitasking sucks on s3. I guess it's not due to jelly bean. My friend's s2 works great on jelly bean and multitasking is great on it. I guess the problem is on software side of s3. 1gb ram its more than enough for handling phones like s3.
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This has been discussed plenty and you're right, it's one of the s3's biggest flaws. The only obvious solution is the only one you can't really do - add ram. That or, you know, hope samsung takes his head out of his ass and actually fixes this since it's rather shameful, but I won't be holding my breath.
But there are workarounds, even if not perfect:
- you can use a custom aosp based rom. There're plenty to chose from. Although i haven't tried how their memory management is better than stock's many people report it is. And they usually use much less ram too and that also helps. The bad side is, since samsung didn't really deliever on the sources they promissed, any aosp rom for the s3 isn't as optimized as it could be. This translates in worse battery life, somewhat more lag than expected, aparently worse camera (from what i heard) that stock stuff... Some people don't even notice other can't live with that - up to you.
- use swap. by installing a swap-enabled kernel you're able to multitask more. This isn't the same as adding ram although it's probably as close as it gets functionality wise. What you're doing is creating a file on either the internal or the external sd that will help with your poor ram managing.
You can get more info here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paging if you're ineterested how stuff works. There's also plenty of info on such kernels on the "original development" thread.
There are prices to be paid though, internal and external sd's are never as fast as ram, so you'll probably feel your phone slower overall, even more if you use the external sd which is known to be even slower than the internal sd (card class is a huge factor here since it determines how fast your card is at reading and writing).
Also, since your phone will be constantly writting/reading from sd you're also reducing it's life span. If your internal sd breaks down, you'll need a new phone since the internal sd can't be replaced. If it's the external sd you can just buy another one cheap.
I did try this with an 8Gb class 6 card and a 512Mb swap. Sure it multitasked like a boss but phone was much slower all around. There are reports from people saying they don't notice any slow downs with a class 10 card though. They're rather cheap so i'll give it a try one day.
- sell it and buy the 9305 with 2Gb of ram. Or wait for the new S4. Or, if you're tired of getting shafted by samsung, go for any other brand. To be honest that xperia Z is looking mighty fine lately...
Super nice info friend. Will try other kernel but not nw. Will wait and watch what sammy is gonna do to fix these in next updates??
So many issues wid this flagship droid. Sudden death, exynos abuse, heating issues........
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Well, it sucks how the phone just kills, stops or breaks whatever you leave running either in background or when the screen turns off. And it's plainly annoying to see almost every app getting reopened after a while even if nothing significant happened. Since there's no working multitask I'd rather have what apple does for "multitasking". At least apps are reopened where they were left.
But I'm keeping it for a bit more. I guess I could sell it and get the 9305 for little more money but I'm waiting to see whatever new comes out. If nothing pleases me I can always get the 05 at any point later, probably cheaper too. There's a 4.2 rom from Samsung to the s3 just around the corner, and I'm aware this is wishful thinking but who knows...
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Well, it sucks how the phone just kills, stops or breaks whatever you leave running either in background or when the screen turns off. And it's plainly annoying to see almost every app getting reopened after a while even if nothing significant happened. Since there's no working multitask I'd rather have what apple does for "multitasking". At least apps are reopened where they were left.
But I'm keeping it for a bit more. I guess I could sell it and get the 9305 for little more money but I'm waiting to see whatever new comes out. If nothing pleases me I can always get the 05 at any point later, probably cheaper too. There's a 4.2 rom from Samsung to the s3 just around the corner, and I'm aware this is wishful thinking but who knows...
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Have you checked what the multitasking is like in aosp roms?
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2 pages and all of the mockery and nonsense flying all over the wall... You guys should sell your phone really, you lose couple hundreds dollar more and buy HTC or sth....save the b*tching
Solution: swap, lower the low Memory Killer value (original value is too high to keep app initial load faster, apps like system tuner or minfree manager will help), lock app logic (so that app doesn't get kill almost immediately when you use another app in between of a big app.
Reason why the galaxy s3 is so bad at multitasking is that to ensure users of less lags, less forgotten apps running in the background hogging the ram. Unfortunately android doesn't have a "pause in between" feature, but you chose it so find the d*mn mod and stop whining. I use AOSP and don't even say I defend samsung.... I just hate the nonsense...
Edit: Btw, titanium backup is only 6$ or so, buy it and freeze the crapwares if you don't use. Freeze, not uninstall so the next time you update your custom rom it won't reappear.
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Actually, I believe Samsung is working on a resolution.
I was trying out the 4.2.1 stock leaked ROM, and to my surprise found that zRam was enabled (thanks to Yank, check out the discussion over on the "bestmultitaskingfix" thread).
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Not sure what is wrong with your phones
Alright, I have read a lot of threads about this issue, but it always amazes me. I am not sure what is up with your phones. I just did a quick test. I opened messaging to a certain message, opened dropbox to my camera uploads, opened xda to this thread, and opened two games (subway surf and hill climb racing). I am able to switch between them with no reloading, fairly quick goes right back to where I was. Checking my ram I am still at 706MB/832MB. After closing it all down I am at 466MB/832MB.
Not sure what I am doing differently. I am running wanamlite v5.5. I have not done anything else special.
I suggest looking a little closer at your phone. What have you done to it and what is taking your memory. Surely there is something(s) you don't really need sucking up your memory.
I know many people report this issue, but I think everyone has a different situation. I don't see how I have no issue and others do, must be some change on the users part that causes/prevents this problem.
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Alright, I have read a lot of threads about this issue, but it always amazes me. I am not sure what is up with your phones. I just did a quick test. I opened messaging to a certain message, opened dropbox to my camera uploads, opened xda to this thread, and opened two games (subway surf and hill climb racing). I am able to switch between them with no reloading, fairly quick goes right back to where I was. Checking my ram I am still at 706MB/832MB. After closing it all down I am at 466MB/832MB.
Not sure what I am doing differently. I am running wanamlite v5.5. I have not done anything else special.
I suggest looking a little closer at your phone. What have you done to it and what is taking your memory. Surely there is something(s) you don't really need sucking up your memory.
I know many people report this issue, but I think everyone has a different situation. I don't see how I have no issue and others do, must be some change on the users part that causes/prevents this problem.
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Hii. well try this run angry birds & subway surf same time plus songs in background & any messenger like nimbuzz then switch between apps & revert here please. also a live wallpaper. :angel:
I am just mentioning basic games. i tried running gta vc & nfs mw but both reloads after first switch.
Hey everyone, I've encountered a little nuisance with my HTC One.
Under Storage the phone claims around 7GB is in use under "Other". However, when I plug the device into my computer via USB, I can't find any directories that are taking up this amount of space using Windows Explorer or Android Commander, which lets me down into the root of the filesystem.
FYI, I have Nova Launcher active as my primary UI, so I'm not even using Sense 5 at the moment. I know that 7GB can't just be Sense 5 + Built-in apps.
Anyone else seeing this and know what it is?
It actually probably is just Sense 5 and the AT&T bloat apps. Apparently Android along with the manufacturer's skins are pretty large now. Then add AT&T's useless apps that literally no one uses and you have 7gbs of storage being consumed. This is one of the reasons I'm going with the 64gb.
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its the system partition and you cant do anything about it. mine is 16 GB.
cachookaman said:
its the system partition and you cant do anything about it. mine is 16 GB.
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Wow, that's crap. What exactly is that being used for? There's no way 16gbs of space is reasonable at all.
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That's asinine that it reserves that much storage... Completely inexcusable when you factor in the lack of an SD card. Epic fail.
I think HTC realized that since they are releasing the Chinese version WITH microSD support... >_<
At least they aren't pulling the crap they used to - like with the Inspire - saying it had 4GB of storage but then formatting it for speed, dropping it to 2GB and leaving 1.3GB or so to the end user...
Still what the hell would they reserve a quarter of the storage for?!
im guessing the extra 9 GB that are part of my "other" are the SD card data for some of the apps i have installed. but it still seems excessive.
Ugh, now we're seeing the ugly side of the HTC One. I don't think I'm going to keep mine now. I can't justify 7GB of my 32GB taken up by the system when I don't even use Sense 5 or any of the AT&T apps. Especially since I can't add more space to the phone, it's just not a good deal for me.
It's a shame too, it's a sexy device.
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Ugh, now we're seeing the ugly side of the HTC One. I don't think I'm going to keep mine now. I can't justify 7GB of my 32GB taken up by the system when I don't even use Sense 5 or any of the AT&T apps. Especially since I can't add more space to the phone, it's just not a good deal for me.
It's a shame too, it's a sexy device.
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It's pretty common, honestly. The S4 also has around 7gbs of storage used.
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jtc276 said:
It's pretty common, honestly. The S4 also has around 7gbs of storage used.
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Yeah, but at least you can add an SD card to the phone to get some of that back.
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Yeah, but at least you can add an SD card to the phone to get some of that back.
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Yeah but have fun finding one that isn't a 16gb version. I played with both phones today. The HTC One is superior in almost every area. I wouldn't really consider the S4.
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jtc276 said:
Yeah but have fun finding one that isn't a 16gb version. I played with both phones today. The HTC One is superior in almost every area. I wouldn't really consider the S4.
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Agreed :good:
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Yeah but have fun finding one that isn't a 16gb version. I played with both phones today. The HTC One is superior in almost every area. I wouldn't really consider the S4.
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I'm curious, how is the HTC One superior?
spectrumfox said:
I'm curious, how is the HTC One superior?
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Camera, screen, speakers, CPU......
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spectrumfox said:
I'm curious, how is the HTC One superior?
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Ok. Take in mind that this is from someone who was dead set on getting the S4 only a week ago. I also want to add that my non-tech-savvy iPhone-using mother was with me at the AT&T store while I was comparing phones and also agreed that the One is better.
1. The screen is smaller on the One but it has better color reproduction and, when playing the trailer for 'Star Trek Into Darkness' on both devices, produced clearer results.
2. The One's software is much more optimized and runs smoother than that on the S4. In my half an hour of constant use with both devices, the One maybe had three instances of minor lag while the S4 produced lag (sometimes major lag) every few seconds. The S4's lag was most prominent when multitasking, hitting the back button, or going home. Switching between home screens produced some stuttering but was not terrible.
3. Speaking of software, the "features" on the S4 aren't that great. Probably the most difficult thing about using the S4 was trying out the Smart features. Many of them were pretty useless such as scrolling through web pages with hand gestures. However, it did actually work and work pretty well. I also really liked having the ability to answer the phone by waving in front of the phone and seeing some general information displayed on the phone after waving my hand in front of it while it was sleeping. But that's about as useful as it gets. I could never get Eye Tracking to work. Some kid beside me finally did after nearly a minute and a half of working with it which completely defeats the purpose of using it in the first place. None of the other features really worked well either making me wonder why Samsung decided to add them to the device and bog it down in the first place.
4. Build materials are pretty bland on the S4. I'm not going to criticize them for using plastic because plastic is durable enough, but I am going to criticize them for not really differentiating the phone from the S3 in terms of look. I was, however, impressed with how they implemented the 5" screen into such a compact and usable package, but that's about it. The S4 is no looker. My mom was also not a fan of the design, thinking at first that the hyper glazed finish was some sort of case and not the actual design.
5. Sound quality through the headphones was good on both devices but better on the One due to its added amplifier. The S4 had definitely improved over the S3 and maintained a pretty loud volume. The One was slightly louder and produced more dynamic results with great highs and lows. The average person would be happy with the sound quality from either, though.
6. The general Android apps such as Texting and Email are hardly changed on the S4. For some users, this will be fine. But, personally, I hate the stock Android Messaging app. I have a Nexus 4 and have used GoSMS since the day I purchased it. I don't understand why anyone would want to view a multiple picture MMS like a slideshow instead of each photo separately. Thankfully, the One does exactly that and has a rather perfect Messaging app. Of course, you can always download GoSMS or Handcent or something from the Play store, but the fact that this won't be necessary on the One is nice.
7. This is picky, but I really liked the One's keyboard. Like, a lot. I've been a stock Android keyboard user since ICS and I didn't think that choice would change with the purchase of any new phone. But the keyboard on the One is nice. Really nice. I almost never made mistakes on the keyboard when using it. On the S4, I couldn't stop making mistakes. If you're just going to use SwiftKey or the stock Android keyboard, this probably isn't a huge deal to you. But I found it shocking that I loved the One's keyboard.
So, yeah. This is a huge post but those are my honest opinions. I was as subjective as I possibly could be and my honest opinion is that the One is the better phone.
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The storage space being reflected in Other is from App Data.
HTC's storage doesn't give the user a run-down of the apps that are classified as Other when you select Other.
If I go to Storage on my Galaxy Note 10.1, and push Other (on the Galaxy Note 10.1, it is classified as Miscellaneous Files), I am given a run-down of the all of the app data that is classified as Other/Miscellaneous.
The Galaxy S3 (which I switched from to get The One) has it's storage implemented in the same way on the stock ROM.
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The storage space being reflected in Other is from App Data.
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Exactly, specifically the /data/data folder.
Whoever said it's the system partition is incorrect.
BTW, when you buy a 32GB device, that means 32GB total NAND storage. On the One it's broken down like this:
/system 1GB
/cache 629MB
/data and /sdcard (share the same partition) 22GB, or 54GB on a 64GB model.
The rest goes to modems (/firmware/mdm and /firmware/q6), secure (/data/secure/data and /mnt/asec), and miscellaneous other partitions (logs, etc.)
Every device on the market is this way, the total NAND space is divided up between a variety of things and the usable /data and /sdcard space is generally 80 to 85% of the total.
It's not supposed to be like that. I've had that issue a few times on my 32gb M7. Copied my files to PC. Formatted my SD card. Copied files back. Reclaimed about 14gb each time as far as I can remember. Then after a few weeks, the issue comes back out of nowhere.
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It's not supposed to be like that. I've had that issue a few times on my 32gb M7. Copied my files to PC. Formatted my SD card. Copied files back. Reclaimed about 14gb each time as far as I can remember. Then after a few weeks, the issue comes back out of nowhere.
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Yeah, I'm the same only 7gb though. Using TWRP I make a backup on my usb-otg. Wiped everything internal and restored from usb. Worked once or twice, didn't work today though. Probably is just system files.
Has anybody else experienced or is experiencing rather poor ram management on their S6e?
I'm finding app refreshes really quite abundant. Yes they refresh quickly in most cases but they are refreshes nether the less.
Worst are apps that dump you out of what you are doing like Tapatalk.
System manager tells me I gave 400mb free and yet app refreshes are a common occurrence.
My nexus 6 rarely has to auto refresh - indeed conversely I can open Tapatalk on that and have to manually refresh to get content. But at least I never get dumped out of a thread and taken back to menu.
The Galaxy S5 was poor enough with memory management, I hoped the 3gb in the S6e would put an end to forced reloads & refreshes but nope.
I have a sim free factory unlocked model, no carrier bloat and have factory restored and still same issue persists.
Its as if Touchwiz despite certain improvements is as memory hungry and uncouth as it ever was.
I know how you feel. RAM is always almost full even if there are no apps running. I can multitask without refreshes if I go to an app for a few seconds. But if I spend like even just a minute then I get a refresh. Even with just one tab on Google Chrome, I get a refresh immediately by just using Facebook for a while. I mean wtf?
I believe it's due to the memory leak on 5.0.1 wait till we get 5.1 to see if they fix this issue
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I believe it's due to the memory leak on 5.0.1 wait till we get 5.1 to see if they fix this issue
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No memory leak is only on nexus devices and related to its particular bootloader - something Samsung device doesn't have. It won't improve if it's not good now.
Graffiti Exploit said:
I know how you feel. RAM is always almost full even if there are no apps running. I can multitask without refreshes if I go to an app for a few seconds. But if I spend like even just a minute then I get a refresh. Even with just one tab on Google Chrome, I get a refresh immediately by just using Facebook for a while. I mean wtf?
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Yep exactly as you describe and it's really quite annoying. Feels like the phone is being gimped by its OS Skin. We shouldn't be having this issue on a 2015 3gb top of range device.
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No memory leak is only on nexus devices and related to its particular bootloader - something Samsung device doesn't have. It won't improve if it's not good now.
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Ah I didn't know that. Thanks for correcting me. I also have this issue as well and hoping this issue is fixed soon from Samsung.
I have this issue too.. Anoys the heck out of me;.. I can pause pandora, and then open another app, and pandora lost its place!
happens a lot more then it should.
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I have this issue too.. Anoys the heck out of me;.. I can pause pandora, and then open another app, and pandora lost its place!
happens a lot more then it should.
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Yep. How come all the so called in depth reviews never mentioned this issue. To me aggressive memory killing and excessive ram usage is far more detrimental to user experience than the odd bit of lag, yet the only thing we kept getting told is how lag free this device would be and how super fast the ram is.... And yet it can barely keep 4 apps in memory for 5 minutes. Its really frustrating.
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Yep. How come all the so called in depth reviews never mentioned this issue. To me aggressive memory killing and excessive ram usage is far more detrimental to user experience than the odd bit of lag, yet the only thing we kept getting told is how lag free this device would be and how super fast the ram is.... And yet it can barely keep 4 apps in memory for 5 minutes. Its really frustrating.
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ikr.. they didnt mention this ram thing at all. are they even used this phone at all to post those reviews?!? I was using an iPhone 6 Plus before, and I never had this issue at all. I hope they can fix this as soon as possible.
I don't think the reviers use it really all that much. I don't think they load a lot of apps like most us users.. Idk it is sad. I also think Pandora for example is weird. Once you hit pause the icon disappears on top. So it's free to get killed. When songza for example, just pauses and keeps an icon on top. I'll almost chalk that up to bad programming. But fb, chrome and whatever, yea.. Sucky
It's really irritating. My 6 plus with 1gb of ram is better than this. What I don't get is you can have 400mb plus of ram available and stuff starts closing. Makes no sense.
I had this issue with my nexus too, and my s5 with lollypop.. I wonder if there is a settinf
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It's really irritating. My 6 plus with 1gb of ram is better than this. What I don't get is you can have 400mb plus of ram available and stuff starts closing. Makes no sense.
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Yep... I have less refreshes with my 6+ too.
The 400mb free ram available thing irks me too - if it's free why isn't it being used ? And what the heck is using up the 2.4gb before it ? Even when I tell it to close all my apps the most I have free is around 700mb which soon drops back to the 400-480mb mark. It's crazy how memory hungry and inefficient it's being.
holy crap! finally!
I've been searching for a thread like this for a week. Just got my phone a few days ago and man the ram management is piss poor. My HTC M7 doesn't have this issue. And yes I've wondered why no review site has mentioned this at all. I mostly noticed it on Chrome.. or even the stock browser. But yes it does this auto refresh crap on other apps as well. I don't know about you guys but I have the AT&The variant non edge and I have 5.0.2.
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I've been searching for a thread like this for a week. Just got my phone a few days ago and man the ram management is piss poor. My HTC M7 doesn't have this issue. And yes I've wondered why no review site has mentioned this at all. I mostly noticed it on Chrome.. or even the stock browser. But yes it does this auto refresh crap on other apps as well. I don't know about you guys but I have the AT&The variant non edge and I have 5.0.2.
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Yeah I have a stock UK/Ireland factory unbranded handset, so its not carrier app fault either unfortunately.
The M7 & M8 are both excellent indeed - with near stock android levels of memory management, which only goes to prove an android skin doesn't have to suck the life out of a device, which is exactly what Touchwiz feels like its doing.
The S5 wasn't great memory management wise, the Note 4 was good but no where near as good as the Note 3 memory wise and sadly the S6e seems very poor especially when you consider it has 3gb. So it seems to me since the Note 3 Samsung's flagships have been getting worse ram management wise rather than better.
I have a €950 flagship phone which handles memory about as good as a Moto G with 1gb.
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Yeah I have a stock UK/Ireland factory unbranded handset, so its not carrier app fault either unfortunately.
The M7 & M8 are both excellent indeed - with near stock android levels of memory management, which only goes to prove an android skin doesn't have to suck the life out of a device, which is exactly what Touchwiz feels like its doing.
The S5 wasn't great memory management wise, the Note 4 was good but no where near as good as the Note 3 memory wise and sadly the S6e seems very poor especially when you consider it has 3gb. So it seems to me since the Note 3 Samsung's flagships have been getting worse ram management wise rather than better.
I have a €950 flagship phone which handles memory about as good as a Moto G with 1gb.
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so you're telling me that the S5 for a year now still has crappy ram management??? that's just crazy and boggles my mind. i seriously don't want to keep this phone for 2 years of this nonsense (i get a new phone every 2 years). if that's the case i might just return this phone. as good as it is, that's almost a deal breaker to me. i always multitask switching from web page to messenger, to camera, sports apps etc.. etc.. then back to web page just to see it auto refresh every time! if i'm just bouncing back and forth between a couple apps within a min or so it doesn't seem to do this but after about 5 mins.. it never fails.. auto refresh is a certain. so sad. i don't want to go back to apple, but right now, i might have to return this phone and wait for iPhone 6S.
what also baffles me is that i don't seem to see much people talking about this issue considering this is a flagship phone and millions have already been sold worldwide.
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so you're telling me that the S5 for a year now still has crappy ram management??? that's just crazy and boggles my mind. i seriously don't want to keep this phone for 2 years of this nonsense (i get a new phone every 2 years). if that's the case i might just return this phone. as good as it is, that's almost a deal breaker to me. i always multitask switching from web page to messenger, to camera, sports apps etc.. etc.. then back to web page just to see it auto refresh every time! if i'm just bouncing back and forth between a couple apps within a min or so it doesn't seem to do this but after about 5 mins.. it never fails.. auto refresh is a certain. so sad. i don't want to go back to apple, but right now, i might have to return this phone and wait for iPhone 6S.
what also baffles me is that i don't seem to see much people talking about this issue considering this is a flagship phone and millions have already been sold worldwide.
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I think because the phone is otherwise very very fast some folks may not be noticing the refreshes. Its certainly more noticeable on apps that drop you out of what you were doing back to a previous menu screen like Tapatalk.
I think people genuinely want to believe the
Hype that the S6 & S6e are the nirvana of android...
I must admit I too am shocked folks aren't complaining more or are giving the device an easy pass on this issue, but for me its a total PITA.
I will keep the S6e until the next update and hope that has some memory tweaks, but if it doesn't I'll consider just selling it on.
I tiped phonearena about this issu and they announced it today so maybe this will open some eyes in Samsung dep.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Galaxy-S6-exhibiting-overzealous-RAM-management-report-users_id68745
now also up on Sammobile
http://www.sammobile.com/2015/04/28/poor-ram-management-affecting-the-galaxy-s6-and-s6-edge/
So far, ive had issues of battery drain with bundled apps such as the AMAZON app store, as most of us here are already aware. I wonder if this ram issue has to do with the same preloaded apps causing issues? What about people who rooted and reinstalled all Play-Store-Reinstallable apps, through the Play store, has that cleared this issue? Maybe the misbehaving apps are taking their system-level privilege a little too far?
Glad some review sites are taking an eye on this. It's actually really annoying. Even my music app constantly shuts off and I have to force it to cause a wake lock for it not to shut off (poweramp has this option)
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