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i recently updated to ICS using FTF file from expacer..used his extended kernel for root but programs cant use root permission this is nt much important to me but the problem is wifi keeps getting disconnected and reconnected even when signal is full...anyone else having same problem??
im having this problem since gingerbread
dont know about stock but on cm based roms (personally ported lewa os) wifi was fine...cant figure out what is causing the problem but it is very annoying....cant even install a file manager now because of stupid wifi error
Change a kernel...
nebojsha said:
Change a kernel...
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doesnt work..no other ics kernel booted the device.....
Try using Kamarush's lite v2 kernel, it works on stock ICS
Network Problem?
akshyat said:
i recently updated to ICS using FTF file from expacer..used his extended kernel for root but programs cant use root permission this is nt much important to me but the problem is wifi keeps getting disconnected and reconnected even when signal is full...anyone else having same problem??
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May be a network problem. Not in your phone but on your router.
I had the same problem.
Try this:
-erase your network from the phone.
-disconnect the router (or turn it completely off)
-reconnect the router
-on your phone make sure you have automatic IP search (DHCP)
-connect the phone to wi-fi whenever the router is ready
Hit Thanks if it helped
check this thread out. its worth a shot!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1445766
Alexmessy said:
Try using Kamarush's lite v2 kernel, it works on stock ICS
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that was the first one i tried...not working...phone just keeps showing black screen....nth else....
Izzy Stinson said:
check this thread out. its worth a shot!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1445766
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didn't work out
I'm using the official ICS but I'm not having any WiFi problems msa
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nah not working....same setting works for cm7.2 but for ics no luck
akshyat said:
i recently updated to ICS using FTF file from expacer..used his extended kernel for root but programs cant use root permission this is nt much important to me but the problem is wifi keeps getting disconnected and reconnected even when signal is full...anyone else having same problem??
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Yeah, I have the same problem with my XM, except that it's working perfectly (but slowly) with the stock ICS rom, but not with any modded rom. The wifi keeps reconnecting to my home network. Already tried a lots of roms and settings, but no success...
Hello all, I hope this is the right place to ask this, but I recently crossed over to Android devices from BB so I'm still trying to figure out my way around things. Today I flashed ICS Android version 4.0.3, kernel version 3.0.8-perf-i717uclc5-cl281649 and build number iml74k.144 onto my Note and the installation went fine, had no problems at all, but now I can't install apps from my web browser(Chrome) onto my Note like I could before the flash. USB debugging is on.
Is this something that I may have done wrong? Any help would be much appreciated.
droid_noob1 said:
Hello all, I hope this is the right place to ask this, but I recently crossed over to Android devices from BB so I'm still trying to figure out my way around things. Today I flashed ICS Android version 4.0.3, kernel version 3.0.8-perf-i717uclc5-cl281649 and build number iml74k.144 onto my Note and the installation went fine, had no problems at all, but now I can't install apps from my web browser(Chrome) onto my Note like I could before the flash. USB debugging is on.
Is this something that I may have done wrong? Any help would be much appreciated.
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U should back them up with titanium backup i personally would use android 4.0.4
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What rom u on?
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JB calhoun said:
What rom u on?
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To be honest, I really don't know, like I said I'm coming from BB and still trying to figure everything out. Here's the link that I downloaded the ROM from:
rootzwiki.com/topic/22134-sgh-i717uclc5-ice-cream-sandwich
If anyone has a link to a better ROM, I'm definitely open to try them out. I would just like to know how to fix the problem of not being able to install apps from the Play Store from my web browser.
You can't install apps using Chrome browser from your PC ?
Why not use the Market (play store) app that's already on your phone? You have to have a Gmail account set up on your phone to access the market.
rangercaptain said:
You can't install apps using Chrome browser from your PC ?
Why not use the Market (play store) app that's already on your phone? You have to have a Gmail account set up on your phone to access the market.
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I've been using the app that's on my phone but EVERYTHING on my phone got wiped and it's a bit easier to multi-task on a computer than it is a phone, so it's more about comfort ability at the moment, but this is just one issue arising, how many other, and potentially more serious issues are going to arise?
droid_noob1 said:
I've been using the app that's on my phone but EVERYTHING on my phone got wiped and it's a bit easier to multi-task on a computer than it is a phone, so it's more about comfort ability at the moment, but this is just one issue arising, how many other, and potentially more serious issues are going to arise?
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This is not an issue... use the play market to get your apps.. not a PC... because you obviously don't know how.... what you explained is NOT an issue, its the wrong approach. Your fist mistake was downloading a rom from root wiki.. flash my rom.. Seraphim-Mesosphere, and be happy...
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dman3285 said:
This is not an issue... use the play market to get your apps.. not a PC... because you obviously don't know how.... what you explained is NOT an issue, its the wrong approach. Your fist mistake was downloading a rom from root wiki.. flash my rom.. Seraphim-Mesosphere, and be happy...
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Do as he says you will be like a child when Christmas morning comes
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erpress ofhiciating
dman3285 said:
This is not an issue... use the play market to get your apps.. not a PC... because you obviously don't know how.... what you explained is NOT an issue, its the wrong approach. Your fist mistake was downloading a rom from root wiki.. flash my rom.. Seraphim-Mesosphere, and be happy...
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I've been using my browser to install apps on my phone since I got, it's just started having this issue since I flashed an ICS rom, so it's not that I don't know how to do it, because I do, this is an issue with the rom.
But I will take your advice instead of try to argue with you, can you link me to your rom?
droid_noob1 said:
I've been using my browser to install apps on my phone since I got, it's just started having this issue since I flashed an ICS rom, so it's not that I don't know how to do it, because I do, this is an issue with the rom.
But I will take your advice instead of try to argue with you, can you link me to your rom?
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The ROM you flashed is a very outdated leak that was known to be riddled with bugs and performance issues.
Go to the development page to check out the latest and greatest ROMS
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1496
Seraphim can also be found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1602632
Izzue said:
The ROM you flashed is a very outdated leak that was known to be riddled with bugs and performance issues.
Go to the development page to check out the latest and greatest ROMS
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1496
Seraphim can also be found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1602632
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Thank you very much.
droid_noob1 said:
I've been using my browser to install apps on my phone since I got, it's just started having this issue since I flashed an ICS rom, so it's not that I don't know how to do it, because I do, this is an issue with the rom.
But I will take your advice instead of try to argue with you, can you link me to your rom?
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Man dman is an elite developer...do like he tells u man and u will be fine u should feel lucky he even reslonded....use the play store to get ur apps...go to settings about phone to see what ur on...then if ur not rooted do that then install mesosphere remix cm9 and watch ur self fall in love with ur phone all over again
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Hello all, I hope this is the right place to ask this, but I recently crossed over to Android devices from BB so I'm still trying to figure out my way around things. Today I flashed ICS Android version 4.0.3, kernel version 3.0.8-perf-i717uclc5-cl281649 and build number iml74k.144 onto my Note and the installation went fine, had no problems at all, but now I can't install apps from my web browser(Chrome) onto my Note like I could before the flash. USB debugging is on.
Is this something that I may have done wrong? Any help would be much appreciated.
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Dl apps via browser is not the way to go ne way idk who told u that...unlike BB we have our own play store with 175,000 plus apps
Edit..,dl titanium backup and superuser first thing!!
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So I downloaded the Seraphim First Flight, but I have no idea how to flash it onto my device, I'm assuming you can't do it through Odin?
You better stop! There are so many instructions about rom flashing. Study up!
You can ruin your phone with the click of a button. You sound close to it.
It's really not that hard...
0. Download Rom of your choice to somewhere on your external SD card.
1. Use Odin to flash the latest version of i717 ClockWorkMod Recovery (aka "CWM" )
2. Boot into CWM (use 3-finger salute method to boot into recovery).
3. Clear cache/factory reset
4. Install Rom of your choice that you had saved to your external SD card.
5. Reboot and enjoy .
But yeah, if any/all of the above confuses you, then you REALLY need to spend many hours reading before you go any further.
As for roms, I recommend dman's (as already mentioned) or ICS Perfection -- both have lots of active support...
Good luck.
+1 listen to dman he is D-MAN. you cant go wrong with anything made by THE COLLECTIVE...... any Collective rom will set you straight, just read all instructables .
droid_noob1 said:
So I downloaded the Seraphim First Flight, but I have no idea how to flash it onto my device, I'm assuming you can't do it through Odin?
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Dl the one on top...mesosphere its the newest leak..
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droid_noob1 said:
Hello all, I hope this is the right place to ask this, but I recently crossed over to Android devices from BB so I'm still trying to figure out my way around things. Today I flashed ICS Android version 4.0.3, kernel version 3.0.8-perf-i717uclc5-cl281649 and build number iml74k.144 onto my Note and the installation went fine, had no problems at all, but now I can't install apps from my web browser(Chrome) onto my Note like I could before the flash. USB debugging is on.
Is this something that I may have done wrong? Any help would be much appreciated.
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Him mentioning USB debugging immediately made me think he was speaking about side loading APKs.
If you're trying to install apps downloaded from sources other than the market, for future reference, you must check the "unknown sources" box under settings>security.
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droid_noob1 said:
So I downloaded the Seraphim First Flight, but I have no idea how to flash it onto my device, I'm assuming you can't do it through Odin?
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no u flash through cwm..make sure u factory reset and wipe both caches...and sometimes u need to fix permissions
Hey again, as usual i don't post something unless i feel that something is being left out or forgotten.
Nothing big but as you may know we xperia play verison or (CDMA) users are often forgotten in rom development. That's where i come in
i feel that the cdma xperia is neglected and does not much dedicated support. One example is GB roms. If you didn't know (or it does not affect you) when trying to install a R800i ROM to a R800x phone after the bootanimation you usually get stuck on a blank or slightly gray screen (depending on the rom makers theme.) It is VERY annoying and it is IMPOSSIBLE to get past it. But i have threw together a little patch for VERIZON CDMA USERS ONLY!!! that corrects this issue. to use is very easy.
just flash this zip immediately after flashing your GB rom of choice!! and boot
NOTE:a small FC will appear, THIS IS NORMAL! And then the verizon setup will appear. done!
Also: THIS DOES NOT FIX CDMA 3G/4G SERVICE!
THE PATCH IS FIXED AND READY TO GO!!
DOWNLOAD
I'll have to try this out sometime. I just recently got MIUI installed onto my device (thanks to CosmicDan). I've always wanted to try the Gin2JellyBean ROM and the True Ancestor ROM. Thanks for this, I'll definitely try this out soon. :3
So is this a CDMA patch to allow any GSM rom to he installed then flash this patch and it will work? I spent months trying to get a working cdma patch but to no avail. Best I got was a the dialer wouldn't force close and it would attempt to make a call but would then just sit there. Ill have to try this out.
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This thread holds my interest....
Finally some good developer fought of the other people and their inability to use ROMS.....
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So is this a CDMA patch to allow any GSM rom to he installed then flash this patch and it will work? I spent months trying to get a working cdma patch but to no avail. Best I got was a the dialer wouldn't force close and it would attempt to make a call but would then just sit there. Ill have to try this out.
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No it doesn't fix cdma, I tried it with Dixperia. And it booted to show the homescreen and just sat there with "no network available." Up in the notification bar.
If this works, YOU.ARE.AWESOME!
cj360 said:
No it doesn't fix cdma, I tried it with Dixperia. And it booted to show the homescreen and just sat there with "no network available." Up in the notification bar.
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Maybe you should read the op to see what this does. Clearly you did not
cj360 said:
No it doesn't fix cdma, I tried it with Dixperia. And it booted to show the homescreen and just sat there with "no network available." Up in the notification bar.
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He made this to make GSM roms run on CDMA devices, the purpose of this patch, if I'm correct, is to help these GSM only developers develop for CDMA users, and wizard CDMA developers can take care of the signal, then make a full universal patch within the near future. That's my perspective.
I'm impressed either way!
It took this long for this to be released? Surprised no one has done this yet for locked people. Good job!
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Maybe you should read the op to see what this does. Clearly you did not
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I thought he was asking if this fixed network for cdma, which your right it doesn't. But oh well I was wrong in my post :silly:
Anyone else getting an error code when attempting to flash this? I get the "status 6"........ or am I missing something something and this is not supposed to be flashed?
No I got the same thing. I took the files from his mod and added them to the rom I tested. I think the binary in the zip is bad but I'm not sure.
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NOTE: this does not fix the network btw, this allows you to install GB roms
xdarkmario said:
NOTE: this does not fix the network btw, this allows you to install GB roms
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Are you supposed to flash this file to any GB Rom you install? As I noted above when I attempted to flash of gives me the error code Status 6.
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ozzmanj1 said:
Are you supposed to flash this file to any GB Rom you install? As I noted above when I attempted to flash of gives me the error code Status 6.
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hmm that's weird i'll take a look.
ozzmanj1 said:
Are you supposed to flash this file to any GB Rom you install? As I noted above when I attempted to flash of gives me the error code Status 6.
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ok i see what you mean. its a script error on my hand. i am fixing and reuploading now
Ok just fixed and re uploaded the zip, it works now!
Just to clarify... this DOES NOT allow me to use the phone features of a GSM rom on my CDMA device right? It just fixes the phone from freezing when flashing certain GB roms correct?
Xperia Player said:
Just to clarify... this DOES NOT allow me to use the phone features of a GSM rom on my CDMA device right? It just fixes the phone from freezing when flashing certain GB roms correct?
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yes this ONLY allows you to install any gsm rom on our cdma phones no network
Just tried to instance the system.sin for a stock SE based rom and got kobworking homescreen. Just a tip though flashing true ancestor the rom works out the door without the need to flash this patch but again nobworking phone functions and none of the aokp, ft5, cyanogenmod cdma patches work. So if you just want a working device with no phone functions then the true ancestor works out the door no need tobflash this patch.
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I've spent the weekend trying to make a safestrap rom out the newest update from T-mobile. As far as I can tell everything is working the particular steps I did were
Disabled Wi-Fi in stock ROM before flashing
I'm not sure if this does anything but someone suggested this for fixing wifi not always coming up. I'm not sure if it matters but if you don't disable WiFi in the stock slot and WiFi in the SafeStrap slot doesn't work then mention it in the comments.
Create new rom slot of at least the default size
Flash vzwupdat.zip
Flash root, whatever other mods you may want
The kernel is still the old one, I just added the wifi drivers to the original rom to try and alleviate the issues that kept people from being able to turn on WiFi. I also added the build.prop and eri.xml from the stock Verizon ROM to fix T-CDMA64 showing as the Mobile Network.
Will you update now that the OTA for Verizon has been released?
The short answer is no. The Verizon update is the same software wise as this version. The modems were updated and some of the security binaries are updated. If you use this you are essentially using the newest software you could possibly use. Trying to modify Verizon's OTA to work with safestrap is going to be counterproductive because there is so much carrier specific branding and dependencies. This does include all the same camera updates, but to alleviate some of the problems that people have with call quality I will look into a flashable radio if someone else doesn't do it 25/10/13
Mega Link
https://mega.co.nz/#!0c9WRRSB!MkyN-wah-qD-lxrNXBLSOTwwb84o9AfE7UvhOW02AUg
Drive Link
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B3Kv8-wueihjVnhWb2tQQXd2TDA/edit?usp=sharing
SuperSU by chainfire
http://download.chainfire.eu/supersu
HOW TO VIDEO!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsvUxEqNu-A&feature=youtu.be
Excellent, thanks!
What does the eri.xml file do? I'm just wondering if i need it for anything. I have a vzw dev edition and am running the T-Mobile rom. I just added the vzw build.prop and made sure to switch to the right network type lte/cmda auto(prl) every time I boot the phone. No issues so far. Is the eri.xml just for people with safestrap?
Working great. No issues so far.
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How is this different from stock? I'm about to pickup a Moto X and am excited to start modding it!
Edit: wait nevermind, I should have searched first...
Thanks so much. Can't wait until I have time to figure out how to flash this..
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jimmypop13 said:
What does the eri.xml file do? I'm just wondering if i need it for anything. I have a vzw dev edition and am running the T-Mobile rom. I just added the vzw build.prop and made sure to switch to the right network type lte/cmda auto(prl) every time I boot the phone. No issues so far. Is the eri.xml just for people with safestrap?
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On most ports from GSM to CDMA the eri is missing an entry to tell the phone "Hey, this network is called 'Verizon Wireless'." It keeps users from seeing the T-CDMA64 as their network provider. If you do flash it on your dev edition I just warn you that this was designed for being used as a SafeStrap ROM. It doesn't contain a boot.img and may not boot on the dev editions.
Does this have a wifi tether enable override so that VZW doesn't get checked?
htowngator said:
Does this have a wifi tether enable override so that VZW doesn't get checked?
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This is essentially like using an carrier-less moto x. No bloat. No subscription checks.
Awesome work man!
Only one question before I flash this gem.
Does this cause any problems with safestrap??
I only ask because I flashed the tmo ROM the other day with no issues. Had data and WiFi working great. When I rebooted to get into ss I bootlooped like a son of a beotch. Had to fxz back to stock. Saw a few other users with the same problem flashing the same tmo ROM.
Can anyone comment on this??
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doobie711 said:
This is essentially like using an carrier-less moto x. No bloat. No subscription checks.
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So basically you create a rom slot, backup to new rom slot, install your update, install su update, and boot to new slot?
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How can this be used on AT&T safestrap?
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codygs83 said:
Awesome work man!
Only one question before I flash this gem.
Does this cause any problems with safestrap??
I only ask because I flashed the tmo ROM the other day with no issues. Had data and WiFi working great. When I rebooted to get into ss I bootlooped like a son of a beotch. Had to fxz back to stock. Saw a few other users with the same problem flashing the same tmo ROM.
Can anyone comment on this??
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I've had no issues with reboots. I've turned off and on, rebooted to recovery and regular reboots and working great.
My only thing, and I'm new to SS so I know it's something I'm doing, is when I switch to stock slot and then back to where this ROM is, I've lost data on the custom slot. Like I clean flashed. Is there a way to maintain all my user data on slot 1 while switching to stock?
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Ok, I have it installed and running great so far...but as far as root, which Pwn version would I use? The Verizon one, the TMobile one, or none?
Thanks for developing for us. Stupid Verizon and their late updates!
SubliminalME said:
Ok, I have it installed and running great so far...but as far as root, which Pwn version would I use? The Verizon one, the TMobile one, or none?
Thanks for developing for us. Stupid Verizon and their late updates!
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Didn't you unlock your bootloader?
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htowngator said:
So basically you create a rom slot, backup to new rom slot, install your update, install su update, and boot to new slot?
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Backing up to a new rom slot is really just to have your stock rom on that rom slot. All that is needed is to create the rom slot and then flash this zip.
SubliminalME said:
Ok, I have it installed and running great so far...but as far as root, which Pwn version would I use? The Verizon one, the TMobile one, or none?
Thanks for developing for us. Stupid Verizon and their late updates!
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Just about to post a link for the zip that I flash in safestrap for root.
codygs83 said:
Awesome work man!
Only one question before I flash this gem.
Does this cause any problems with safestrap??
I only ask because I flashed the tmo ROM the other day with no issues. Had data and WiFi working great. When I rebooted to get into ss I bootlooped like a son of a beotch. Had to fxz back to stock. Saw a few other users with the same problem flashing the same tmo ROM.
Can anyone comment on this??
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If you have no issues then I wouldn't recommend changing a thing.
BREAK THE CRACKFLASHING HABIT, BROTHER
mj0528 said:
How can this be used on AT&T safestrap?
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Theoretically you should be able to use it the same way on AT&T but it may just cause your network to say "Verizon Wireless" in the notification shade and the quick settings tile.
Crooke356 said:
I've had no issues with reboots. I've turned off and on, rebooted to recovery and regular reboots and working great.
My only thing, and I'm new to SS so I know it's something I'm doing, is when I switch to stock slot and then back to where this ROM is, I've lost data on the custom slot. Like I clean flashed. Is there a way to maintain all my user data on slot 1 while switching to stock?
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I do not believe this should occur. I would post over on the rootzwiki forum on the SS page because it is probably an issue with SS. Certain user data is getting stored differently because of how the Moto X is set up from what I have gathered. I know Hashcode just change in the new SS where he was storing certain things so that might be part of the problem. Make sure you are on the newest SS and post what occurred over there so hashcode can look into it.
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/104161-recovery-locked-safestrap-recovery-v363-2013-10-14/
Howdy all,
When I flash the CM11 alpha ROM by santod040, it wipes all carrier info from the phone. My inc 4g is flashed to pageplus, and as far as I can tell there is no way to flash the carrier info back onto the phone without going back to the default sense ROM. I understand that the ROM I am having issues with is an alpha, but what would cause this behavior? Is it just the way the ROM installs? Is it possible wiping with CWM is causing it, as all other ROMs that I have flashed I wiped with TWRP, and none of them had this issue. Is there a way to restore carrier info only? I cannot dial ##DIAG## on CM to use CDMAWS, and as far as I can tell none of the hidden menu apps contain that specific code.
I am rooted with S-OFF, so that cannot be an issue.
I understand that I should probably just wait until it's been developed a bit more, but I liked every bit of CM11 quite a lot... except for being able to not actually use my phone as a phone XD.
Download the one from CyanogenMod. It's been good on my phone.
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tj13 said:
Download the one from CyanogenMod. It's been good on my phone.
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Ditto. Make sure you have the correct recovery.img. I couldn't complete the install using TWRP. I used the most current CWM and the CM11 M2 release.
Tried flashing the M2 build from CM using CWM 6.0.4.6 and it still wiped my MIN and phone number, etc. Looks like PRL is still there though.
EDIT: It appears to have fixed itself, although idk why or how. Reboot may have done it, and as I'd forgotten to flash gapps maybe that helped. In any case, Thank!