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What differences are there, if any, between the two roms BESIDES cosmetic differences? Is one faster or better on battery than the other? I've yet to root or flash a rom but I've read up on adb, sbf-flashing, and atrix pseudo-CWM and I think I can handle it. I've also searched but didn't find the information I'm looking for.
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I had this question I was told to read the features. In nt experience grey was smoother but a little slower. Ginger was faster but buggier although I did get better battery on grey. That's just my person experience
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Gingerblur had been updated more recently.
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Yeah, gingers features all seem GUI related, though both are deodexed. Guess ill have to try both but I might just try GrayBlur...
Will I lose all my data and apps when I flash? I think I do but im not sure.
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You shouldnt loose anything as they arent technically full roms just a flashable collection of themes mods and tweaks
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FluffyCow said:
What differences are there, if any, between the two roms BESIDES cosmetic differences? Is one faster or better on battery than the other? I've yet to root or flash a rom but I've read up on adb, sbf-flashing, and atrix pseudo-CWM and I think I can handle it. I've also searched but didn't find the information I'm looking for.
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LOL, what look do you like better? That's the one you pick.
My God, guys. They are just themes. No. There are no differences in speed or anything. It's one look vs the other. These "roms" are simply theme, maybe with some per installed apps.
haha speed difference on themes =D the only speed difference is are you on the latest update from Motorola
Only asked since gray listed speed hacks and improvements under features, and the feature list for ginger was much, much shorter. This is what happens when newbs ask questions
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They are themed, but please remember to acknowledge the heavy changes that were made such as deodex, removal and/or addition of key apps, tweaks to enable things like sideloading, HDMI mirroring and Webtop modifications, etc.
They aren't roms, they're what people have dubbed "pseudo-roms" - a composition of changes and tweaks akin to what a rom would provide. It's the best we can do at this point. And I'm really pleased with GreyBlur to be honest. Awesome work.
I was referring to the differences, as both deodexing and the other changes were listed for both I believe. I meant memory speed hack and such listed for grayblur.
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I can say I have tried both and my PERSONAL preference is with gingerblur. I ended up putting the ProDX red theme with 1% and circle battery mod over top of gingerblur and LOVE IT looks amazing. Speed wise i never really compared, and I do not use a laptop dock or car dock so never had to worry about the issues with those.
Everyone keeps stating the vibrant has issues with battery on gingerbread...... if this is a driver issue, can't these be borrowed from a phone with the same/similar hardware but is on gingerbread? And why doesn't Samsung at least release the nessary drivers so the phone can be supported seeing as they don't seem to be willing to put gingerbread out for it......
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This has been answered a million times dude. First we dont even have a leak or anything for the vibrant, were using the 4g's leak which is different codes, different radio's etc. Blame T-Mobile for dropping support on this phone.
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My questions haven't been answered.... why can't we get the proper drivers from other phones that use the same chips?
There are numerous other galaxy s phones..... where all the same chips (other than the radio )will be the same! GPS, CPU, graphics etc. Are the same...... so why can't these items be ripped out of other Roms to make the vibrant 2.3 roms?
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Because no other phone is using the same driver/firmware combo. The closest things we have are the captivate and i9000 which both use different radios. Same is true of the vibrant 4g.
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Because no other phone is using the same driver/firmware combo. The closest things we have are the captivate and i9000 which both use different radios. Same is true of the vibrant 4g.
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The captivate is very close to ours.. the issues ive seen with gingerbread seems to be more than the smal.hardware differences of radios and such, so if there is a more clear answer what the big problems really are, im curious.
since they just leaked the 2.3.4 for captivate I was hoping we would have a better Ginger coming.. or at least should be a good sign that ours(leaked Ginger) can't be far behind right?
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The captivate is very close to ours.. the issues ive seen with gingerbread seems to be more than the smal.hardware differences of radios and such, so if there is a more clear answer what the big problems really are, im curious.
since they just leaked the 2.3.4 for captivate I was hoping we would have a better Ginger coming.. or at least should be a good sign that ours(leaked Ginger) can't be far behind right?
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I'm not sure what exact answer you're looking for but the differences don't end at the radio.
The accelerometer on the captivate is turned 90° which would need to be fixed in the kernel.
The radio differences render the GPS useless without the same hack that we presently have.
The button layout is slightly different though an easy fix.
Using a captivate firmware is no different than using the i9000 firmware. Just because the phones look alike doesn't mean a thing. Once you start looking beyond the outer physical appearance you'll understand that the Vibrant is rather unique. Of course there are work arounds and hacks but nothing that we aren't presently doing. Without someone stepping up on a regular basis and compiling kernels that implement certain fixes or without a leak of our own nothing changes.
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I guess I meant the problems the current roms have for many people. GPS is a given, never could get it working properly, but instability and atrocious battery life would make me think we were using a ported rom from a totally different phone.
I guess the thing I'm wondering, if there's been 2 Ginger leaks for captivate, then a vibrant source must be in the works and can't be far behind right?
It is amazing that you devs have managed to overcome all of the issues that you have, something the OP really needs to realize.. most thought it unlikely or impossible that ginger would be working as well as it is..
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Does anyone know whats in the 2 Ziggy kernels? They run so nice but cant find a changelog on them anywhere.
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He doesnt release the code for his kernels. As I understand, he is military and hasnt updated his website in some time because he is deployed.
Ahh ok. Well they run so smooth. Thanks bud.
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Saw that virus sent him a 3d finally too. Going to get even better now. He's been building the kernel without a phone. Pretty dang amazing!!!
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He doesnt release the code for his kernels. As I understand, he is military and hasnt updated his website in some time because he is deployed.
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I used them for a while, but now I use bcblends kernel, I think the overall performance is a bit better with bcblends, but I also think a lot of that has to do with the init.d scripts.
Has anyone tried this? I saw it on droid-life today and wondered what everyone thought. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1908269
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I found it yesterday (or two days ago) via LifeHacker of all places and ran it on my N7 and my Rezound running Neo's cm9. It's an amazing tool and has definitely made my devices faster, at least I think it does lol Either way it's freaking awesome!
Which are we?
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I found it yesterday (or two days ago) via LifeHacker of all places and ran it on my N7 and my Rezound running Neo's cm10. It's an amazing tool and has definitely made my devices faster, at least I think it does lol Either way it's freaking awesome!
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Neo's cm10????
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Which are we?
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XHDPI
anyone know why the hell this isn't working???????
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Has anyone tried this? I saw it on droid-life today and wondered what everyone thought. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1908269
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Thanks for pointing this out!
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Neo's cm10????
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Haha you caught me! I have a N7 also so I get confused sometimes
Bah, I stay far away from these "so-called" build.prop tweaks. They do nothing but people keep thinking they work...I guess because they just see commands and numbers and think they must work. All they do is simply lag the phone in some way or another and destroy battery life. After all, placebo is popular in the android world.
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Bah, I stay far away from these "so-called" build.prop tweaks. They do nothing but people keep thinking they work...I guess because they just see commands and numbers and think they must work. All they do is simply lag the phone in some way or another and destroy battery life. After all, placebo is popular in the android world.
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Well just hold on there, I can vouche for the enhance image quality tweak.
I still have yet to verify is this actually does anything worthwhile. I just did a clean flash of Neo's AOKP 1.5 and ran quadrant a few times, then Pimped it out and then re-ran Quadrant. The score was higher.... but that was because GPU rendering apparently wasn't enabled the first time Otherwise the scores were just about the same. It sucks that there's no effective/absolute way to test these sorts of thing out.
Updated to 2.0, more options and tweaks
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I wonder if this would be good on a sense 3.6 rom. Particularly ZHP's rom.
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Bah, I stay far away from these "so-called" build.prop tweaks. They do nothing but people keep thinking they work...I guess because they just see commands and numbers and think they must work. All they do is simply lag the phone in some way or another and destroy battery life. After all, placebo is popular in the android world.
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Device: HTC Rezound - S-OFF
Firmware: 4.03.605.2
HBOOT: HBOOT 2.27 *Unlocked* *Vinylfreak89*
Radios: 2.22.10.0801r, 2.22.10.0803r
Recovery TWRP v1.0 2.3.1.1
Kernel/ROM: Kernel Rezound Cubed ICS Kernel 2.3.9/ROM ViperRez 1.0.3
Kernel/ROM: Kernel Snuzzo Funky Kernel v1.3/ROM CM9 Project Rachel v1.2
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Bah, I stay far away from these "so-called" build.prop tweaks. They do nothing but people keep thinking they work...I guess because they just see commands and numbers and think they must work. All they do is simply lag the phone in some way or another and destroy battery life. After all, placebo is popular in the android world.
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some of them work. for example I always tweak my call ring delay, and on other phones tweaked the camera with changes to image and video compression, recording frame rate, set wider wifi scan intervals, and have added custom tagging in various places within the os. I am also sure that many other working tweaks exist that I never tried.
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some of them work. for example I always tweak my call ring delay, and on other phones tweaked the camera with changes to image and video compression, recording frame rate, set wider wifi scan intervals, and have added custom tagging in various places within the os. I am also sure that many other working tweaks exist that I never tried.
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Hello. I want to flash a rom on my fathers note.
Will anyonw be kind enough to point me out to what is considered the most stable rom.
Preferable nothing over 4.2.
I flash cm10.2 and it has a weird thing where the screen fails.
I have carbon 4.4.2 on my razr hd and it works flawless. But it seems that roms on thia device arent doing so well.
If anybody ia able to help me i would apreciatte it a bunch.
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Hello. I want to flash a rom on my fathers note.
Will anyonw be kind enough to point me out to what is considered the most stable rom.
Preferable nothing over 4.2.
I flash cm10.2 and it has a weird thing where the screen fails.
I have carbon 4.4.2 on my razr hd and it works flawless. But it seems that roms on thia device arent doing so well.
If anybody ia able to help me i would apreciatte it a bunch.
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Some moderators have been shutting these kinds of threads down do to the fact that you are asking for someone to rate ones work over another, but I will chime in before that happens.
I am not going to rate one over the other though, as all phones run differently as you are finding out.
2 roms that MY phone had no problem running......Padawan and Black Jelly.
These 2 are close to stock with bloatware removed. Remember this is your dads phone. There are plenty of other roms I like, but require more maintainence. How often are you going to want to fiddle with dads phone.
Not much has been happening on these threads. You will not see many recent issues. That is how stable they are. I will recommend you read and in Padawan, I will refer you back to p. 355 to about p. 380. This was just after update and many issues were solved at that time. My phone never ran better.
If you get lag, read again, you werent paying attention.
Good luck.
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If you follow development rom threads you can answer your own question. That is what is expected of people to do rather than create threads like this. That being said I don't really know what you are hearing about 4.4.2 roms but my wife has been running a 4.4.2 rom for well over a week without any reboot. After installing uber,a screen jitter patch, and the camera patch everything seems to work fine. Granted she really doesn't use bluetooth much but when she does it seems to work and there is an echo when using speaker phone on the other end. So really only reason not to go to 4.4.2 would be the speaker phone issue which I believe is present on any rom above 4.2. There is no way I could live on 4.1 or below personally.
Anyway to answer your question read the threads in the development section of this forum and educate yourself. Maybe even go as far as to flash a few roms and try them out and decide which rom is right for you.
Battery on Kit Kat seems to have a bit of a shorter life span also.
What you were stating Butcher, may be the reasons he is asking for stable. Patch here, kernal there, 4.4 has been very stable. But he is putting it on dads phone. If I were flashing dads phone, I would want something I am not having to tweak so much, especially if dad cant tweak himself.
Would you want to change the brakes on dads car every other day. Some roms are like a medication. The phone seems to build up tolerances, then need to make an adjustment.
But yes, read.
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Battery on Kit Kat seems to have a bit of a shorter life span also.
What you were stating Butcher, may be the reasons he is asking for stable. Patch here, kernal there, 4.4 has been very stable. But he is putting it on dads phone. If I were flashing dads phone, I would want something I am not having to tweak so much, especially if dad cant tweak himself.
Would you want to change the brakes on dads car every other day. Some roms are like a medication. The phone seems to build up tolerances, then need to make an adjustment.
But yes, read.
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Yes thank you.
I would usually just flash away any rom ghat sounds promising to me. And yes i would tweak as much needed to be exactly how i wanted. From overclocking to to voltages, to removing navbar to what ever is needed.
But like you said this is for my father and i would want to have it be the most stable ao he wont have to deal with reeboots and and weird screen fails.
And i have been reading and uber has been mentioner a lot. Some say good some say its bad.
Kinda have been seeing a mixed opinion about it. Thats why i have been asking for what somebody consideres a stable rom.
Also i dont have the opportunity to mess with his phone when ever i want.
He is on gingerbread and god is that slow.
Thank you both i will see the roms that were mentioned here, and read for others.
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Yes thank you.
I would usually just flash away any rom ghat sounds promising to me. And yes i would tweak as much needed to be exactly how i wanted. From overclocking to to voltages, to removing navbar to what ever is needed.
But like you said this is for my father and i would want to have it be the most stable ao he wont have to deal with reeboots and and weird screen fails.
And i have been reading and uber has been mentioner a lot. Some say good some say its bad.
Kinda have been seeing a mixed opinion about it. Thats why i have been asking for what somebody consideres a stable rom.
Also i dont have the opportunity to mess with his phone when ever i want.
He is on gingerbread and god is that slow.
Thank you both i will see the roms that were mentioned here, and read for others.
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If you went to the Samsung website, you can get an official upgrade there or even calling the carrier and have the upgrade it. JB is the official upgrade. If something goes wrong there, then at least they are resposible if something goes wrong.
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If you want vanilla android Download 10.1.3 from get.cm. or try a stock debloated ROM in our forums.....can't go wrong either way. Jus sayi. ....oh and sssuuuuuuppppp capt ha!
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I can still get a great copy of root box 4/20 if you want..
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If you want vanilla android Download 10.1.3 from get.cm. or try a stock debloated ROM in our forums.....can't go wrong either way. Jus sayi. ....oh and sssuuuuuuppppp capt ha!
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I can still get a great copy of root box 4/20 if you want..
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SUUUUUUUUP Shayne? How was your B-day?
Got my rootbox fix. Been trying some oldy but goodies I never tried before.
Alliance
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Word...it was alright usual hangover cause friends think my liver is made of steel ha. Thanks for asking. Been flashing a lot myself ..trying latest aokp sometime today cheer!:beer:
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