Few questions before purchase. Overclocking, Beats & MHL adaptor - Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I've been going round and round in circles all weekend . Currently got an HTC ONE X which other than a few multi tasking issues is perfect. I love it, hands down best phone i've ever owned. Its going back today because I've had a fall out with ThreeUK and have canceled my contract. I now have the option of a new phone. So its ether the new SIII or the HOX. I'm currently swaying towards the SIII due to battery life and slightly more power. I have a few questiosn I hope the community can help me with?
In the future will there be any ROMs which have Beats Audio cooked in or will it clash with the SIII DAC?
Is it possible to get Tegra games working without root?
Could the HOX camera app ever be ported to SIII?
Can you place multiple apps within a folder on the home screeen?
Warrenty, the HTC warrenty is void as soon as you unlock the boot loader. Whats the story with Samsungs and warranty?
The way I look at it the SIII has more potential. Since the HOX runs so hot, OC'ing doesn't look that promising. Hows the SIII? Does it get toasty or are increased clocks possible later down the line?
Going to ahve a look at the SIII tonight after work. See how it feels in the hand and see how I get on with the screen. Clearing up the above quations will certainly aid in my decision.

I cant answer most of your questions but i had the same choice HOX or S3,i wanted the HOX since launch because i really like the sence software but changed my mind at the last minute........
to answer one of your questions,yes you can have folders but you have to create the folder rather than just dragging one tile on top of the other like you can on HTC phones ,i had a htc sensation xe before this S3
in some ways i still prefer the HTC sensation mainly due to the sence software,the beats software also sounds better via headphones than the audio on the S3 (just my opinion) music has abit more "punch" to it on the beats , if that makes sence
anyway good luck choosing im sure both phones are great

I'm hoping with ROM development there will be a nice stream lined release.
Other than the fancy clock widgets what does sense actually offer over TW? I'm finding it hard to spot in the videos other than the obvious theme changes.

mardon85 said:
In the future will there be any ROMs which have Beats Audio cooked in or will it clash with the SIII DAC?
Whats the story with Samsungs and warranty?
The way I look at it the SIII has more potential. Since the HOX runs so hot, OC'ing doesn't look that promising. Hows the SIII? Does it get toasty or are increased clocks possible later down the line?
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1 - Seems that Voodoo Sound is coming to the SGS3 - huge SQ improvement, and a million times better than Beats. I'd be surprised if any ROM chef choses Beats.
2 - In most countries warranty is voided by rooting or flashing non-stock ROMs. It's easy enough to restore a stock ROM and reset the flash counter if neceesary (via Triagle Away).
3 - I've been giving my phone a very heavy workout for almost a day now, and it has been slightly warm on a couple of occasions and no more. Very impressed.

I've had my HOX up to 52C and my Battery Information widget is saying "Over Heating" this is just from playing GTA3. Most the development on the HOX is to undervolt to get more battery not performance. I think the S3 since it uses a smaller Nm manufacturing process it may well OC better than the HOX. 5 hours screen time compared to 3.30hrs is much better IMO. Just looking at beats headphones and a 64GB SD card now. £96 for the two very tempted to click purchase and go get a white S3 at lunch.
Couple more questions:
How is the MHL working with the S3? Is it 720p output or does it do 1080p? The HOX has a small boarder when using MHL adapter and drives me mad!
I've read that 1080p on BBC iplayer is currently laggy. How is 1080p on youtube?

Appearently the s 3 supports the new mhl standard (V2.0) which is limited to 1080p60 and 8 channel audio.

If that's true the S3 seems to one up the HOX a little on most points. Waiting on the cable and wireless charging from Samsung now!
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[Q] Did I really mess up by getting an Amaze 4g?

Hello everyone, this is my first post and I'm happy to finally become a member of this community after shedding my buggy LG touchscreen phone.
I got this Amaze 4g on Monday at the T-Mobile store since they had very limited phone stock and the sales reps highly recommended it since they had dropped its price to the same as the SGS2. This is my first smartphone but I'm now disappointed to find out that the Galaxy S2 has much more dev support and is a bit better for gaming and power-using. I keep seeing youtube videos that hail the Amaze 4g as the winner in most if not all head to head reviews.
I'm now contemplating returning this for a Galaxy S2 since gaming is a big part of my spare time, but I'd have to pay a damn $50 restocking fee. Is the Galaxy S2 that much better to justify paying the $50? Am I really missing a lot?
I would love to hear more from gamers using the Amaze 4g. Most reviews of heavy games on the Market like Modern Combat 3 and Dead Space have reviews of SGS2 users, and I could find no Amaze 4g users among the reviews. I'm not really much of a picture taker, so the camera on the Amaze isn't something I would miss too much. I'm not looking to start a flame war or anything of the sort. I just want to make sure that I have a capable phone to play these games before I buy them.
They have the same processor so gaming shouldn't be too different performance wise.
The reason your seeing more reviews for the galaxy s 2 is because the gs2 is a more popular phone world wide compared to the amaze.
I work for tmobile and the most popular phone people ask for is the gs2, maybe due to proper ads by Samsung where HTC kinda stopped with advertising their flagship phones since they roll out a new one every month.
So don't worry, u got urself an amazing phone!
Sent From My HTC Amaze
howhi50 said:
They have the same processor so gaming shouldn't be too different performance wise.
The reason your seeing more reviews for the galaxy s 2 is because the gs2 is a more popular phone world wide compared to the amaze.
I work for tmobile and the most popular phone people ask for is the gs2, maybe due to proper ads by Samsung where HTC kinda stopped with advertising their flagship phones since they roll out a new one every month.
So don't worry, u got urself an amazing phone!
Sent From My HTC Amaze
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Hey.. leak out some kernels and phone info so we can grow the development...
Just stick a usb in.. copy, paste, and no one will ever know.
Just get a Galaxy S2 and feel good about it.
It's your choice not mine and if you don't feel like just get a right one for you.
You are stuck with this phone for Maximum 2 years.
Get a phone you want to use for 2 years.
I am a bit of a heavy user on my phone when it comes to games, all i use my phone for is games, facebook, text, and some other things xD haha. that said, i havent recieved my Amaze yet BUT i played Deadspace and Eternal Legacy (big game, over 1GB) on my Sensation and they ran butter smooth. now with the CPU underclocked and less RAM it would obviously not run as smooth as the Amaze.. the sgs ii will run just as smooth as the amaze in games. they have the same CPU/GPU/amount of RAM.
I'll vouch for this, I had the SGSII for a week and I hated every minute of it...the resolution is lower even though its a amoled screen, I don't think the colors are even that much better to be honest, the blacks are just darker, thats all.....I hated everything about it, the camera, how big it was, how big everything on it was...I did a direct sunlight test, and HTC IS better even though they advertise that super amoled is better, its BS. it has more dev support becauses samsung doesn't put as much restrictions on their phones as HTC does. That's the reason.
Camera is immensly better on the HTC. I absolutely hate Touchwiz, where as Sense seems much better.
Its ultimately your choice
Just to be clear when you're talking GS2 are you talking the GS2X with the Snapdragon or S2 with Samsung's more powerful Exynos processor?
Either way the Amaze has the upper hand in terms of resolution and Camera, keyboard if you're using stock Sense keyboard vs TouchWiz IMO. Game play goes to the Amaze if you're comparing Snapdragon's but if you're looking at the Exynos I'd give gaming to Sammy.
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Love my Amaze, although I don't like the feel in my hand. My hands aren't that big so the curved back makes it difficult to hold it tightly.
Actually wished it was squared off more, like the SGS2, but it's a minor issue.
Held the DROID RAZR and that thing holds very nicely, but no removable battery (and not being on T-Mobile) kills it for me.
Overall, very satisfied with my Amaze, although it took installing LauncherPro & disabling a bunch of preinstalled apps using ADB using ZergRush 1-Click Temp Root.
I love the amaze as well.
Did a lot of researching before picking one up, but so far it's been worth it (other than battery life, and possible video recording issues.). Got a nice score of 1057 on Vellamo, so I'm plenty happy about performance. In terms of hardware specs, it's pretty much one of the high end ones, with a balance of storage and features. (Unlike a couple of other options out there.)
Hasn't locked up/random reboot on me yet!
Of course, I came from the Motorola xt720 (extremely buggy at times), which was my first android device. So my experience isn't as great as some others.
Currently on stock ROM, but it's unlocked and rooted. Just waiting for a nice stable ICS build to come along!
I came from an SGS1 and I loved that phone, especially since it had so much development. To be completely honest, if WIND Mobile had the SGS2, not a single doubt in my mind that I would've gotten that handset instead of the Amaze, simply because the SGS2 is leaps and bounds ahead of the Amaze in terms of custom ROMs and whatnot.
That being said, I still love my Amaze because it is by no means a bad phone. It's just a lot newer than the SGS2 and it's a shame that HTC is making it harder for developers to get into coding for the Amaze.
I love HTC I guess you could say I'm a fanboy so take this with a grain of salt. My friend has the Samsung C(r)aptivate and my mom the Samsung Galaxy Tab (1st gen), and when ever I upgrade either one I f**k it up in some way or another, because for some reason I always have to go back to stock before I do anything but having an HTC I forget this. I don't know about the SGSII since I've never rooted/flashed one but I love my HTC Amaze it should be better than the SGSII by a bit since it is clocked faster stock, however SGSII have an accelerated internet browser so it is a bit faster in web browsing. So all in all it is looks, feel and preference. I love the heft of this phone and the way it feels in my hand, Sense is the best interface other than AOSP although it is a bit heavy, IMO TouchWiz is garbage. So they are pretty damn similar phone (unless it is the SGSII Hercules which is exactly the same). As mentioned before Samsung has better development since it is a joke to root it and have no Nand lock etc...
WikusVanDeMerwe said:
Hello everyone, this is my first post and I'm happy to finally become a member of this community after shedding my buggy LG touchscreen phone.
I got this Amaze 4g on Monday at the T-Mobile store since they had very limited phone stock and the sales reps highly recommended it since they had dropped its price to the same as the SGS2. This is my first smartphone but I'm now disappointed to find out that the Galaxy S2 has much more dev support and is a bit better for gaming and power-using. I keep seeing youtube videos that hail the Amaze 4g as the winner in most if not all head to head reviews.
I'm now contemplating returning this for a Galaxy S2 since gaming is a big part of my spare time, but I'd have to pay a damn $50 restocking fee. Is the Galaxy S2 that much better to justify paying the $50? Am I really missing a lot?
I would love to hear more from gamers using the Amaze 4g. Most reviews of heavy games on the Market like Modern Combat 3 and Dead Space have reviews of SGS2 users, and I could find no Amaze 4g users among the reviews. I'm not really much of a picture taker, so the camera on the Amaze isn't something I would miss too much. I'm not looking to start a flame war or anything of the sort. I just want to make sure that I have a capable phone to play these games before I buy them.
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My 2cents worth, the Amaze has only been out a few months, the Devs are working on it, so custom roms are slow coming out. Personally I really like the Amaze, and have never had a Sammy, so can't say on that. Finally it's all up to you and your preferences.
You my good sir did not mess up... The amaze is waaaayyyyyy better than that sgs2. First, just look at how the amaze is made compared to the same old plastic on the sgs. Second, the camera, don't even get me started, this phone has the best camera I've ever owned to be honest, I don't buy expensive cameras, infact I've only owned one camera. Third, there is more developement on sgs2 because its pretty obvious, Samsung has managed to put their galaxy line in the mainstream, popular enough to be competing head on with the iPhone. And remember that HTC doesn't release their phones the same way everytime, they change how their phones are made every few models, take a look at the sgs line and its pretty much the same. Also the amaze has a qhd screen, the sgs has has a 480p screen if I'm not mistaken, and when I look at the sgs it looks all pixaleted if you know what I mean. And finally, the dev here is still in its baby steps, its all about patience.
And as for gaming, my experience has been great, I've been playing gta3 with no fcs no lag, I've also played asphalt 6 and worked awesome.
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Plus, the Amaze is one of the few to receive the ICS update (hopefully this month). And once that drops, I believe development for the Amaze will pick up substantially.
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someone mentioned that the gs2 has lower clock speed, i think for the original one.. yes. but the tmobile hercules t989 it has the same clock speed.
anyways, there's too much exaggeration that the tmobile gs2 development is light years ahead of us. they do have a few devs, but they're not light years ahead of us. a lot of their devs are leaving, and its mostly just tweaked touchwiz, like how ours is tweaked sense. Yeah there are some asop roms, but don't think by having a gs2, you'll be flashing roms like crazy.. because you're not (yet).
I've had the amaze for 2 months before switching over to the gs2. Don't get me wrong, the amaze is a beautiful and fast phone with the better camera... much better. The only thing that bothered me is the battery life. the battery life is simply okay.. this could be fixed by running something other than sense or having a spare or two (one should be enough). but yes sense kills the battery. if it wasn't for the battery life, i would still be using the amaze.
listen to everyone else about the screen. the washed out screen isn't as bad as it sounds. you won't notice it at all when playing games. i played games on both phones. the amaze will give you more details and it will pop out more with more accurate colors. like i said on one of my breakdowns of the two phones.. if you're a gamer, you would want to go with the amaze simply because the games look better. functionality is the same for both phones. You're gonna kill your battery playing games on either so buy a spare anker and you're good to go.
As far as gaming the amaze is pretty bad as far as touch screen compared to the SGS2. i noticed this on few games that my buddy at work(who has t-mo sgs2) informed me about where multi touch gets faulty the more you play or longer you go with out rebooting you phone. This is not the case on his galaxy.
few games that come to mind are jelly defense, jet car stunts, flick golf, also on GTA3.
Well, I'm happy to hear more people have been gaming on the Amaze 4g. I've downloaded Zenonia 3 and Dead on Arrival and they make my phone's left side of the screen really hot. Yesterday whenever I would quit Zenonia 3 and go to the Task Manager, the phone would lock up and do a restart. It did this consistently 3 times! On the last time it switched off the mobile network by itself which was very frustrating.
I find the Amaze to be a bit laggy when navigating menus, especially regarding the touch-screen's feedback. I have yet to take a pictture with this greaest of cameras. Can Sesnse be removed? I just would love to know if this will get better but it is more of a gamble than anything. I hope when ICS comes out things get better. If the T-Mobile store doesn't get a SGS2 by next monday I'll have to stick with the Amaze.
Thank you all so much for the comments and advice.
I did a lot of soul searching when I was deciding on SG2 or Amaze.
What I like in the Amaze:
1) Camera buttons
2) Notification Light
3) Better form factor, SG2 feels too wide and square (personal preference)
4) Higher resolution
5) Solid/higher quality build perception
What I like from SG2 is:
1) AMOLED screen
2) Better battery life out of the box
3) Better benchmarks (bragging rights but doesn't translate into better everyday use)
4) Lighter feel
5) Better brand recognition
I initially ended up with the Amaze because they were out of SG2. I don't regret it after comparing it with two of my friends with SG2. I can still return the Amaze but I guess I'll keep it. The only thing I hate so far with the Amaze is the softkeys light bleeds onto the screen. Battery life so much better after I rooted and custom rom.
You guys shouldn't regret having the amaze, I am not happy with the sgs2. I use to have an amaze I really miss my amaze its impossible to get use to this stupid resolution. More devs don't matter when the roms aren't up to quality a lot of them haven't been updated in a long time. Juggernaut is the best so far IMO but the amaze feel is better x makes quality roms. No notification light is annoying to now I have to use bln.
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You guys shouldn't regret having the amaze, I am not happy with the sgs2. I use to have an amaze I really miss my amaze its impossible to get use to this stupid resolution. More devs don't matter when the roms aren't up to quality a lot of them haven't been updated in a long time. Juggernaut is the best so far IMO but the amaze feel is better x makes quality roms. No notification light is annoying to now I have to use bln.
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agreed with every point. the amaze community is much better imho... that explains why we're still over here lol. I would most likely be back to the amaze in a little bit.

[Q] Cons for SGS2 in face of HTC Sensation?

Hi, I have dilemma, the time has come to buy new smartphone
I know this question was considered many times but let me describe my point of view.
My adventure with smartphones started with Nokia N82 and now I have HTC Desire Z. I was really happy having Desire Z and HTC made a real impression on me. Now I am considering to buy HTC Sensation or Galaxy S2. I really liked dev support for HTC and Cyanogenmod ROM and also other ones. I didn't use stock ROM. I am reading about many positives for SGS2 like display, camera, RAM and cons like Touchwiz, display resolution.
I would prefer to choose HTC maybe beacuse I know their product, I didn't have any samsung before.
My preferences:
For me the most important is performence, customization possibilities and dev support. I don't care about outside but only what is inside. I like sometimes to grab a picture or record a movie. For sure I am using the phone for multimedia: playing, web browsing and waching films. It would be nice if some newer games could be played smoothly. And I was really impressed by HTC custom ROMs (especially CM7).
Could you give me any view for situation repsecting my preferences? I wouldn't like to miss HTC and would like to have sure I will be satisifed if choose SGS2 (it said better performance/hardware).
I hope you understand my uncertainties.
Sebalos said:
Hi, I have dilemma, the time has come to buy new smartphone
I know this question was considered many times but let me describe my point of view.
My adventure with smartphones started with Nokia N82 and now I have HTC Desire Z. I was really happy having Desire Z and HTC made a real impression on me. Now I am considering to buy HTC Sensation or Galaxy S2. I really liked dev support for HTC and Cyanogenmod ROM and also other ones. I didn't use stock ROM. I am reading about many positives for SGS2 like display, camera, RAM and cons like Touchwiz, display resolution.
I would prefer to choose HTC maybe beacuse I know their product, I didn't have any samsung before.
My preferences:
For me the most important is performence, customization possibilities and dev support. I don't care about outside but only what is inside. I like sometimes to grab a picture or record a movie. For sure I am using the phone for multimedia: playing, web browsing and waching films. It would be nice if some newer games could be played smoothly. And I was really impressed by HTC custom ROMs (especially CM7).
Could you give me any view for situation repsecting my preferences? I wouldn't like to miss HTC and would like to have sure I will be satisifed if choose SGS2 (it said better performance/hardware).
I hope you understand my uncertainties.
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I have got the SGS2 and will be going for a HTC or Nexus next time as the devs seen to have more freedom with htc and definlty Nexus. Also if rumors are true then smartphone compinies like samsung, sony e.t.c are going to be making their phones harder to root and more closed except for googles own phone range.
Thanks for your reply. Can you tell me what is your feeling and comments about SGS2? Did you have before any HTC smarthphone?
It is a powerful phone, but no more powerful than the HTC sensation XE. The s2 fells like it could break at any moment, it would be broken by now if my wife owned it. The camera is ok, their are a lot of custom roms for the galaxy s2 as it is a popular phone, although. I do like my phone, but next time try nexus. I have has a HTC desire before and they are very solid phones.
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Hmmm to be honest, both Sensation and Sensation XE have the same type of processor and also the same amount of RAM, the only difference which I have noticed in specs is clock value 1.2 MHz and 1.5 MHz but 1.2 can be overclocked to 1.5 MHz. In that case SGS2 is winning by 1GB RAM. Hmmm hard choice.
How can comment below
For SGS2 in comparision to HTC Sensation I get known:
- SGS2 salmoled display better than LCD but worse resolution
- SGS2 1 GB RAM, for HTC left 200MB RAM free on stock ROM
- SGS2 pretty nice photos, better than for HTC
- SGS2 better movie recording
- SGS2 better movies playing
- SGS2 faster GPS sattelites localization
- SGS2 10 multitouch counted, HTC only 4
- SGS2 worse built than HTC (personally prefer HTC onecast built)
- HTC "death grip" issue
- personal - no experience with samsung products
- personal - fall in love with HTC - THE MAIN REASON OF PROBLEM TO MAKE CHOICE
I've used a Sensation and quite honestly prefer the S2. Not sure what more can be done to this phone than whats out there already, runs fast, battery lasts long, has a nice camera, has a great screen. I used to have a HD2 and I loved it (And also thought nothing could beat HTC phones) theres nothing wrong with the sensation but the S2 tops so many top 10 lists and for good reason. The CM range is nice but my S2 is pretty much perfect without it so I have no strong urgency to run it
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I've used a Sensation and quite honestly prefer the S2. Not sure what more can be done to this phone than whats out there already, runs fast, battery lasts long, has a nice camera, has a great screen. I used to have a HD2 and I loved it (And also thought nothing could beat HTC phones) theres nothing wrong with the sensation but the S2 tops so many top 10 lists and for good reason. The CM range is nice but my S2 is pretty much perfect without it so I have no strong urgency to run it
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It seems you know my dilemma It is pretty convincing in case as you'r writing you also had HTC phones, I am getting more for S2
My wife has sensation.I have SGS2.
HTC wins in raw resolution, but the s2 screen is truly gorgeous. The s2 also has far better camera and is much much slicker (faster) on the ui..
the screen is the MOST used part of the phone
so choose between best colors vs best resolution
I prefer the S2. Makes all other screens seem ancient
Tomorrow I have to decide in case I am going for new phone but I've already made decision thanks to your comments, thanks. S2 won.
If you are going to go for a custom rom then you will free up most of the Ram for the HTC, as sense is the ram killer. How about going for the HTC phone and then induldge in a Samsung Galaxy Tab, or go for a the Samsung Galaxy Nexus.
The case that I am going to extend standing charge in Tmobile and they have special offer galaxy s2 or htc sensation for 0.25 E , there are some more phones but these ones are the best ones.
Was in the same dilemma. Decided on S2. Screen and better mic is why it won out. Only thing I will miss from a HTC phone is Sense. Which as above uses ram but personally I like the UI.
Sebalos said:
Tomorrow I have to decide in case I am going for new phone but I've already made decision thanks to your comments, thanks. S2 won.
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welcome in our club
If you buy S2 I suggest to use custom luncher like go luncher ex
because touchwiz is a bit too stock by means of customization.
and for sms -> handsend sms
all the other stock bits are very good, you may never bother with custom roms
(in the first months at least)
since we are XDAers not just stock phone users, how is dev support for the Sensation compared to the SGS2? I imagine its easier to develop drivers for the Sensation even though the SGS2 is more popular overall in sales figures...
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since we are XDAers not just stock phone users, how is dev support for the Sensation compared to the SGS2? I imagine its easier to develop drivers for the Sensation even though the SGS2 is more popular overall in sales figures...
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Actually I'm not stock user but as well custom Roms, now I have Desire Z and I really apreciate all devs support and it is also for me one of the key points.
That's why I'm also asking whether support for Sgs2 is as well developed as for sensation?
I think the dev support here is fine, have no idea what the sensation section is like. But as I said before, what things can't we do with our phone due to lack of dev support? Only things I can think of are source drivers for things like ICS but tbh I wouldn't buy a phone just because it can run an update possibly 2-3 weeks early. On the whole, to me anyways the SGS2 is simply the better phone overall hence why I chose it.
Good answer thanks I am already convinced about SGS2. I was going to get it today but there was no black one in the store, only white Tomorrow I will have my SGS2
htc wont be getting that much dev support since they lock bootloaders
gs2 or galaxy nexus would be the best option for you
you can check the development section
we have cm7, cm9 , miui ggbread, miui ics, B2geeko and many others project

Any reason not to get the NOTE to upgrade based on my requirements?

Hello!
So I have been waiting for the GS3 so long that I ignored the NOTE..now that I see it, I am impressed that is a beast...huge phone that fits me great because I use my phone all the time and that screensize is just perfect.
So my only concern is, the International one seems to have a lot more Development going on for it and better CPU if I am correct.
So , how is the situation with this one?
As you can see I love tweaking my phone but I think that if I am able to overclock it and get ICS , I would be happy even if its not the fastest growing dev phone around.
I mostly watch videos and play emulators on it. Mame, etc. Calling is not an issue nor is size.
It looks like ICS means not OCing?
Any comments?
I just would like to avoid getting the International one unless it is necessary.
Regards
Just curious... Which phone do you use now and do you like it?
Captivate on my sig, OCed to the max and with AOKP. But as much as it has lasted, it is time to move on.
I've had the captivate, nexus, Skyrocket and many more. BUT the Note is the best phone I've ever had. I highly recommend it to anyone. As far as modifications go, the international has more right now, but with all the leaks and Official ICS in the works, we wont be far behind them. Some pretty kick ass developers here that are waiting for ICS and some sources to run with.
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Once we get official ICS, we will see lots more dev support. This device is the best ive had. Its nothing like a big screen.
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
well the Note does do the following:
HDMI output with MHL adapter
OTG cable support for various USB devices including Keyboards and USB memory sticks
Support for 64GB micro sdxc cards.
Killer Super Amoled screen at 1280X800 (or something) ridiculously large.
Overclock-able? check!
Stylus input for drawing and accurate poking
Unparalleled internet browsing experience, short of a netbook.
GS3 advantages IMO are only
faster CPU and native ICS. For the new flagship Samsung phone, I expected better. when i say faster cpu, i mean via benchmarks. real life usage, not so noticeable. Actually i don't even know if i consider ICS an advantage. Its not like i hate Gingerbread, however some people treat it like the second coming of Christ.
overlook that and you will be overjoyed with the Note, either version.
Like home PC's, invest in screen real estate, cuz that's what you'll have to deal with more than anything.
The deal-breaker for me between the International version and AT&T version is LTE.
I don't mind it not having ICS now, since it is coming very soon, not to mention the leaks.
Just gotta say I came from an Sgs overclocked with aokp and all though i was a little sceptical about dev support at first im loving my note and glad i made the switch even with the lack of an oc kernel and aosp ive been able to tweak the phone the way i like it with no lags on ics
Edit: you will miss voodoo sound and the wolfson dac however but that'll be missed going to any new Samsung phone
I currently am trying out an ATT note and i do love it. But i still find the size a bit cumbersome and the battery life (while good) not enough for my usage. Im going to import an s3 and hope that will be my sweet spot for size & battery. I wonder if the s3 will have the black crush issue?
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Pentile suffers from black crush too?
Sent from a big ass phone
The Note and S3 are basically the same screen other than size difference. There has been no true fix for the black crush that the Note sometimes has. So I'm wondering if Samsung somehow addressed this with the S3 being a flagship device.
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I read that ICS gets rid of the banding...is that not true?

[Q] Debating whether to get a GS3

Hi there, I'm sure you get these kinds of questions all the time, but please indulge my relative newness. I tried to use the search function; however, it kept timing out before it retrieved any results. Something wrong with my internet, I am sure.
My phone network have given me a choice between some lovely phones (turns out paying bills on time gets you in their good books!) and I am tending towards the GS 3, I was wondering if any owners could tell me if I'm making the right call or a mistake.
My choices are the new Nokia Lumia WP7, HTC One X, Galaxy S 3 and the iPhone 4S.
I like the WP7 because I use the Zune software anyway (I actually use a Zune as my main mp3 player,) but that's just about the only reason. I'm not a massive Apple fan, but if it's the superior phone I would be tempted to go for it. I've been using a Desire S for a while, so am quite used to HTC (as well as liking Sense UI quite a bit, apparently that's contraversial.) The Samsung looks really nice from the reviews I've watched, but I've heard there are some build quality problems as well as Touchwiz UI (not a fan. Apparently that's contraversial too.)
Or is it worth sticking it out for HTC's next inevitable offering?
Any help would be appreciated
Go into a phone shop and ask to try each one out, prod, poke, play, stroke, drool, only you can really decide what's best for you. Don't listen to the guy in the shop, he's almost certainly going to be an Apple fanboy (aren't they always? it's bizarre!)
Lumia - low resolution screen
HOX - poor battery life, as well as a sealed in battery
iPhone 4S - tiny screen
These are just a few areas where the S3 beats all these phones, and that's without going into software. Physically the hardware of the S3 is hands-down the best overall package, screen is great (whether it's the best is debatable), great processor, great camera, great call quality, decent speaker volume. Great audio chip inside too, if you're really into your music like me.
Any minor issues the S3 does have can be fixed NOW with custom ROMs, and/or will be fixed by Samsung later with official updates. The issues mentioned for the other phones CANNOT be fixed at all.
It's really horses for courses - I know many, many people who love their iPhones, but when I show them my S3 with a live wallpaper Facebook/Twitter/weather ticker, scrolling launcher dock with all my main used apps on it, the great photos it takes and how great they look and video looks on the AMOLED screen, and how I *Swype like a boss* (phrase stolen from another XDA user), it's written all over their faces how jealous they are.
The only possible real criticism I can level at this phone is that it's very big, and the difficulty with which you have to operate it one-handed could be a show stopper for many people. Aside from that, I think it's easily the best phone on the market right now.
EDIT: Oh and if you don't like Touchwiz then you can get rid of a lot of how it looks by using a different launcher. Or go the whole way, root and flash a vanilla Android ICS ROM. I haven't looked, but I'm sure there will be a Sense ROM floating around for it soon too, if there isn't one already
EDIT 2: As for build quality problems - the only prob I've heard about was the hyperglaze coating/paint job. The first handset I received had a small imperfection in the finish and I sent it right back. The replacement is perfect.
I have heard about dodgy solder connections inside the HOX which can break if the phone is knocked hard, and disable your wifi, Apparently HTC have admitted it's an issue and resolved it now, but there's still plenty of the dodgy HOXs in stores I would imagine - bit of a gamble to buy one, you might end up having to send it back much later, and that's even if HTC don't refuse you - if it's got any exterior damage from the knock/drop then they could tell you to get stuffed, even though the solder prob inside is a known issue.
I guess it really depends on what operating system you like the best. WP7, ios and android all offer different things and it really is quite subjective so the only person that can answer that is you. Now if you choose android and are trying to decide what phone you want I'm pretty sure everybody here will suggest the SGS3. For obvious reasons..
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I also came from an HTC Desire S, just moved to the GS3.
I found some of the SenseUI a bit confusing and find the GS3 more straightforward in that respect.
The GS3 hardware is stunning, especially the GPS which is a million times better than the Desire S.
If you are used to connecting your HTC device as a USB disk drive, then you're going to miss that because the GS3 can't do it. I was dissappointed by this apparent omission at first, but after a few days I have got used to the connection method provided by Samsung and it's no big deal transferring music or videos to the device or SD card.
My GS3 apparently also synchronises contacts, calendar etc to Outlook properly using KIES, which is something that never worked properly for me with the HTC. (It annoyingly kept changing my Outlook contact name format etc)
Big thumbs-up for GS3 from me !
Thanks for your advice! It seems like a really nice device. Tachikoma_kun is right though, got to go and have a look first.
Again, thanks!
If wanna changed to new phone, might as well change network. Loving my sgs3. Highly recommended. Best phone. Period.
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You won't regret getting this phone
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better hurry before Apple gets it banned for stuff they haven't invented but got the patent for ^^
The phone is awesome, S voice sucks (waiting for JB), it's super fast and responsive and has great features. best phone imho.
Yeah crapple patent troller will ban something obvious as having a touch screen soon
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Co0n said:
better hurry before Apple gets it banned for stuff they haven't invented but got the patent for ^^
The phone is awesome, S voice sucks (waiting for JB), it's super fast and responsive and has great features. best phone imho.
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Luckily, the OP is in the UK where we don't have software patents yet. Nothing like competing via the courtroom if you can't compete in the marketplace.
I had the One X and its not a bad phone at all, but the S3 is much better:
- better battery life
- external sd card
- removable battery
- touchwizz 5 has improved a lot and seems lighter on the system than tw 4
- better cpu and gpu
- better camera
- better soundquality and volume
For me the S3 is king
Thanks for all the information again, although with regard to the sound quality: HTC keep touting that they have Beats audio on their phones. I don't know much about it (I normally keep away from things Dr Dre does) but it's supposed to be pretty good, or premium at least. Is Samsung's one really better? I listen to a lot of different kinds of music (from classical to electro to black metal) but it's normally on the heavy rock/metal side. Is Samsung's better for this?
Cheers
The whole "beats audio" thing is just an attempt at a branding gimmick. Bit like a perfume company recruiting Victoria Beckham to put her name to it.
Not sure it's even a good branding exercise. When was the last time Dr dre was relevant? Wasn't his last biggest tune "still dre" back in 1998.
Now if HTC had done a deal with David Guetta.. it might have caught the attention more of their target market.
In short beats audio is nothing to take into account .
Choose anything except Iphone
WP7? Wait for another one year.
Anyway, since you have used HTC for quite some time, why not try Samsung.
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Hey guys,
Just wanted to thank you for your advice. Settled on a Galaxy S 3 in white in the end.
Cheers

do u recommend this over hox(one x)

hi everyone,
i have an htc one x and i am considering the s3, i've got a few questions though(not hardware wise)
why should i choose the s3(software i know hardware can be slightly better than the hox)
i mean htc has the sense clock, weather, friend stream etc..... what about s3(iv never had a samsung mobile)
also audio: what type of enhancer does it have?
im willing to sell my hox to buy one!
thanks
There's a lovely flamefest discussion already going on over here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1652250
Personally, the One X was never an option for me because of the lack of a microSD card slot
TouchWiz? TouchWiz is a lot more closer to AOSP (though, saying that, it's still rather far away) than Sense. The GS3 has a weather widget (which you can see if you Google the GS3) with the time in it. I haven't noticed any friend stream stuff, but then again I haven't been looking hard.
Audio: Dunno. Just standard EQ stuff. The DAC is quite nice in the GS3 so the bass boost option is nice, and if that's your cup of tea the Siyah kernel can really bring up the bass. Also worth noting that HTC sold back (EDIT: half) their stake in Beats...
Hardware wise sgs3 is better than the x. One main factor to include in your selection selection is the fact that the Sammy is more popular within the devs so the phone will probably go to it's potential. I mainly chose it because Samsung has the upper hand when making phones in my opinion I would go as far to say that there isn't currently a better phone on the market.
Thread reported .. use the thread we already have.
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