Sony Xperia Neo V
Stock ROM 4.0.4 (Updated 4.0.3 to 4.0.4 via OTA)
Rooted via DooMLoRD
CWM Recovery installed.
I need to find out if my Xperia Neo V have a locked or unlocked bootloader..?
I have read through different thread and have googled as well, but still was not able to get a concrete answer.
I have never unlocked it myself, not intentionally atleast.
When I check via *#*#7378423#*#*, it says 'Bootloader unlock allowed: Yes'. Some guys around XDA says if its unlocked, it will say ''Bootloader unlocked: Yes' but others say it will show the first one regardless of the lock state.
PC Companion and SUS can detect it just fine and I can repair and update my phone, which leads me to believe its locked.
But then, I can get into flash mode, use flash tool to load different ROMs and also have CWM installed - doesn't it need a unlocked bootloader?
And, if I am on a locked bootloader, what's the advantage of an unlocked one then, what am I missing?
Bootloader unlocked: Yes only means that your fastboot is unlocked,that your phone isn't SIM locked, not that your bootloader is unlocked.
Being able to enter flash mode, flash different rom's, cwm doesn't mean your BL is unlocked.
There are rom's that require custom kernel, if you wanna use those rom's you need to unlock your BL.
Advantage is anything that can be done with custom kernels, mainly overclock, undervolt, change some parameters...
Go to Neo V development section, in one sticky thread you can find s1tool. Get it and identify your phone with it.
Just a fact that you didn't unlock it tells that it's locked. All Xperia phones have locked BL's. All 2011 Xperias with sim lock, have locked fastboot, which means you need to pay to unlock it and by that you enable fastboot and unlock your BL.
Thanks buddy (button pressed). So, unlocked bootloader means warranty gone forever, right? Irreversible?
ramandhingra said:
So, unlocked bootloader means warranty gone forever, right? Irreversible?
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Well, if you use official method, even if you relock it they can see in service center, when they connect it, it will show that DRM certificate is missing. I'm not saying they will look for that, but it will be visible.
In my opinion patched bl is best option, with s1tool. Also you can relock it. As far as I know nothing will pop up on their PC.
Alright buddy, got the idea. Thanks a lot.
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Guys after working hundreds of hour , i have posted a guide to unlock boot loaders of xperia ray without losing DRM data.
it is 100% tested and working fine , i also tried cyanogenmod , MIUI and all working well
you can follow this guide :-
unlock boot loaders of xperia ray without losing drm data
This method is also applicable for other xperia devices , if you are using other xperia phone then find your phone's test point here :
Test Points for Xperia Devices – Xperia Arc / Active / Mini / Mini Pro / Neo / Play / Pro / Ray
if you like my work then hit thanks , i also appeal developers to post more info about it , as i am n00b
Yeah if you want to 100% void your warranty then do this. If you mess with the TA then you WILL void your warranty. Ok I did it with my ray ages ago and just did it with my play but SE have now made trackID that needed DRM keys to work now not need them. Head over to the play themes and apps section and it's there.
Regards
Blackwatch
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Too much complicate with these cables, etc. I used for this only one paper clip. Connection was between testpoint and metal casing sim slots! So simple
And i was unlocking branded Ray with NO access to fastboot Now i have unlocked bootloader, fastboot and simfree, track-id still works olny for 15 GBP http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1304417 i got also full backup of my bootloader.
If you have access to fastboot mode (blue LED) it will by free for you http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1285285
veimus said:
Too much complicate with these cables, etc. I used for this only one paper clip. Connection was between testpoint and metal casing sim slots! So simple
And i was unlocking branded Ray with NO access to fastboot Now i have unlocked bootloader, fastboot and simfree, track-id still works olny for 15 GBP http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1304417 i got also full backup of my bootloader.
If you have access to fastboot mode (blue LED) it will by free for you http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1285285
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You had to pay for it? . See I like the idea and if you know you won't break or brick the device then do it. But if you do hard flashing and drop your phone a lot then don't do it as it does void your warranty this way. Where we modify the TA area it is against the warranty and voids it. This is why I don't advise doing it if you are likely to need the warranty. But I will say now. If anyone has the play and wants to try this then it is actually quite tricky as it is underneath the battery and the battery need to be inserted. Also when removing the test point you can't remove the battery so..... Just pick the device up and hold the back button when removing the test point wire.
Regards
Blackwatch
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Blackwatch89 said:
You had to pay for it?
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to unlock bootloader you need fastboot - in branded/locked phone fastboot needs to be enabled via PAID hardware/software.
using this method, i was aware of the void the warranty
during the whole process i did not pulled out the battery
It's still unclear for me why people want to unlock their bootloader?? Rooting can be done via the exploit so..
for custom kernel /overclocking / CM7 / MIUI etc
Bazonga said:
It's still unclear for me why people want to unlock their bootloader?? Rooting can be done via the exploit so..
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for installing custom roms like - cyanogenmod and MIUI
and for installing custom kernels
O allrightt I thought that was also possible with locked bootloaders
Noob question here... Is it possible to just unlock the bootloader the usual way, like I did on my Xperia Play or does it have to be done the way in OP?
[vertigo] said:
Noob question here... Is it possible to just unlock the bootloader the usual way, like I did on my Xperia Play or does it have to be done the way in OP?
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yes you can unlock it usual way , infact peoples are using normal way to unlock bootloaders of Xperia phones
but if you don't want to lose track id like apps then use above posted method
I've unlocked my bootloader using the testpoint method which allowed me to install the 2.3.4 ROM on my branded Orange Ray when it first came out.
Just used DoomLord's tool to root. Really easy.
I think the only thing I'm missing is FastBoot, but I'm not sure there's a compelling need for that at the moment, to me at least?!
richratt said:
I've unlocked my bootloader using the testpoint method which allowed me to install the 2.3.4 ROM on my branded Orange Ray when it first came out.
Just used DoomLord's tool to root. Really easy.
I think the only thing I'm missing is FastBoot, but I'm not sure there's a compelling need for that at the moment, to me at least?!
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is not possible to unlock the bootloader without working fastboot mode
@veimus
he unlocked bootloaders with this method
http://androidflip.com/unlock-xperia-phones-bootloader-without-losing-drm-data-track-id-working/
xperia ray said:
@veimus
he unlocked bootloaders with this method
http://androidflip.com/unlock-xperia-phones-bootloader-without-losing-drm-data-track-id-working/
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but You can not unlock the bootloader without running fastboot mode in s1tool!
BL unlocked in program "s1tool" = he must have working fastboot mode so why he wrote: "I think the only thing I'm missing is FastBoot" ??
r33p said:
For all :
Hold volume up. Connect usb. Blue light? If yes bt unlock possible with s1tool.
If no you need to go here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1304417
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And we have 2 programs in testpoint metod:
s1tool - free for unlock BL with working fastboot (Bootloader Unlock Allowed: Yes/ blue LED)
SETool2 - paid for locked phone for full unlock fastboot/bootloader/sim-lock!
richratt said:
I've unlocked my bootloader using the testpoint method which allowed me to install the 2.3.4 ROM on my branded Orange Ray when it first came out.
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i think its bull**** because "FlashTool" does the same thing (flash orginal 2.3.4 ROM) without unlocking the bootloader goodbye warranty
Just one noob question.
If I unlock the bootloader with testpoint methode and flash a custom kernel, did I also lose DRM data?
Or can I then flash a stock kernel and nothing wouldn't seen that I ever flash a custom kernel. Also Track ID and so one will work fine?
blue4you said:
Just one noob question.
If I unlock the bootloader with testpoint methode and flash a custom kernel, did I also lose DRM data?
Or can I then flash a stock kernel and nothing wouldn't seen that I ever flash a custom kernel. Also Track ID and so one will work fine?
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If you unlock the bootloader with testpoint methode it will not cause loss DRM flashing software, kernels, etc. also will not lose of DRM data
DRM we lose when we unlock bootloader by official method (SE webpage and unlock key from that page)
Track-id and SEUS update work fine for my Ray unlocked by testpoint (paid method for branded phone)
veimus said:
If you unlock the bootloader with testpoint methode it will not cause loss DRM flashing software, kernels, etc. also will not lose of DRM data
DRM we lose when we unlock bootloader by official method (SE webpage and unlock key from that page)
Track-id and SEUS update work fine for my Ray unlocked by testpoint (paid method for branded phone)
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veimus bro , is SEUS working fine for you ?
Actually i haven't tested it yet , But theoretically it should work
yes it works
followed the instructions and everyting works just fine. Thanks a lot.
Hi there is it possible to relock the boot loader for xperia mini? I unlocked it because i tried CM7. Now I am thinking of going bag to original firmware. Any help is appreciated!
If relocating is not possible, what should one do to get as close as possible back to the original firmware, is it still possible to get official upgrades?
Best,
Thorsten
Thorstenk said:
Hi there is it possible to relock the boot loader for xperia mini? I unlocked it because i tried CM7. Now I am thinking of going bag to original firmware. Any help is appreciated!
If relocating is not possible, what should one do to get as close as possible back to the original firmware, is it still possible to get official upgrades?
Best,
Thorsten
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First, this is ray forum
Second, try here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1126358
Third, remember if you are doing it with official method, you will never able to receive FOTA or SEUS update, you can, but only by flashing from xda.
So since we did the unofficial method, After we update through SEUS the bootloader is still unlocked?
I don't know about that. Since the service info still says bootloader unlocking allowed, I think the phone thinks itself as still locked. Flashing from seus might rely more on drm instead of whether the bootloader as locked or not.
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I don't know about that. Since the service info still says bootloader unlocking allowed, I think the phone thinks itself as still locked. Flashing from seus might rely more on drm instead of whether the bootloader as locked or not.
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when service info says Bootloader unlock allowed: true, that means that it the bootloader is locked, but can be unlocked at will
as many devs say, unlocking the bootloader voids the warranty and bricks the phone when doing FOTA or SEUS
but there's a flashtool out there for us that will take care of it
yujin_11 said:
when service info says Bootloader unlock allowed: true, that means that it the bootloader is locked, but can be unlocked at will
as many devs say, unlocking the bootloader voids the warranty and bricks the phone when doing FOTA or SEUS
but there's a flashtool out there for us that will take care of it
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You do know this method right? http://androidflip.com/unlock-xperia-phones-bootloader-without-losing-drm-data-track-id-working/ When using that method, it is unlocked but the report still says 'Bootloader unlock allowed: true'. So if you use this method (as what idareyou and me were doing back then) the phone thinks that it is still 'locked', even though it's unlocked.
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You do know this method right? http://androidflip.com/unlock-xperia-phones-bootloader-without-losing-drm-data-track-id-working/ When using that method, it is unlocked but the report still says 'Bootloader unlock allowed: true'. So if you use this method (as what idareyou and me were doing back then) the phone thinks that it is still 'locked', even though it's unlocked.
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Yeah. I can confirm that my bootloader is unlocked but it still says 'Bootloader unlock allowed:Yes'
I thought at first I wasn't succesful even though it went smoothly so I tried flashing custom Kernel and it was succesful.
I want to know if in the future if SE release their ICS and we update using SEUS the unlocked bootloader remains because believe me, I don't want to go through the same process again, I got electrecuted several time because I don't have test points, just a clip and copper wire.
Sent from my Xperia Ray using xda premium
Veimus from original thread confirm that seus do works and he can reflash the gingerbread from seus. Sm gt should be ok with ics, And with Sony confirms mo changes hm kernel. I think it will be Rom update only.
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idareyoutoclickthis said:
Yeah. I can confirm that my bootloader is unlocked but it still says 'Bootloader unlock allowed:Yes'
I thought at first I wasn't succesful even though it went smoothly so I tried flashing custom Kernel and it was succesful.
I want to know if in the future if SE release their ICS and we update using SEUS the unlocked bootloader remains because believe me, I don't want to go through the same process again, I got electrecuted several time because I don't have test points, just a clip and copper wire.
Sent from my Xperia Ray using xda premium
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That's why you connect it to ground, silly! (The first two battery pins)
hansip87 said:
You do know this method right? http://androidflip.com/unlock-xperia-phones-bootloader-without-losing-drm-data-track-id-working/ When using that method, it is unlocked but the report still says 'Bootloader unlock allowed: true'. So if you use this method (as what idareyou and me were doing back then) the phone thinks that it is still 'locked', even though it's unlocked.
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yes i do, apparently i forgot to mention your last sentence. you've just beat me to it )
To reiterate for anybody's notice:
Bootloader unlock allowed: true
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means that you can unlock the bootloader, BUT it does not say if the bootloader is locked/unlocked already
I have read around but found no answer..
Some say its impossible some say its possible can some one tell me for sure if its possible and if it is how would I do it?
And in the service menu it says "Bootloader unlock allowed: No"
used the GENERIC rom 042
Bootloader unlock allowed: YES
and use omnius
Lasy said:
used the GENERIC rom 042
Bootloader unlock allowed: YES
and use omnius
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And how do i do that..
To flash other ROM, you can try WotanServer or Flashtool, last one requires correct files, WotanServer needs, that you only pick, which version of firmware you want(and free account).
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To flash other ROM, you can try WotanServer or Flashtool, last one requires correct files, WotanServer needs, that you only pick, which version of firmware you want(and free account).
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And i can do all that on stock mini?
Halv said:
And i can do all that on stock mini?
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Yes you can do it in stock with Wotan server but take into account that this process only changes the firmware version you are on for a generic one from se maybe a newer one but nothing more after this you still won't be able to flash custom kernels or roms unless you unlock your bootloader and fast boot.
You can try the unofficial way for the bootloader and it might work I cannot warranty it but it will not be that good as most of the roms need they own kernels and you will need access to fastboot mode to do that, unfortunately you need to completely unlock your phone either with omnius or setool to gain access to fastboot and this will cost you some money.
How can flashing that 042rom allow bootloader unlocking??
Just for the hell of it, i flashed my mini pro with that rom and it has not let me unlock the bootloader at all so im a little confused here
Seansmit17 said:
How can flashing that 042rom allow bootloader unlocking??
Just for the hell of it, i flashed my mini pro with that rom and it has not let me unlock the bootloader at all so im a little confused here
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Man that is why I hate when people just write for the like of it!!! @ seansmit17 this is not with you I hope you know what I mean.
If you have the message unlock bootloader allowed: no; then it means your phone is sim locked this will lock the fastboot mode too so you will not be able to flash a custom kernel unless you unlock the sim and fastboot mode (connecting the phone turned off and holding the volume up key to the computer = blue notification led with turned off screen and phone), the only means that I know off to unlock is either omnius or setool, this is for the sim and fastboot and it is not free.
For the bootloader you can use the test point method found in the development section, of course I can't guarantee it will work and of course this will NOT UNLOCK YOUR SIM OR FASTBOOT MODE BUT ONLY YOUR BOOTLOADER.
When you install a generic firm with Wotan server it is like a seus upgrade and nothing else well it will allow you to get the last upgrades when they come out due to a change in product code but that's it. The same with flashtool but without the change in product code.
Hope it helps.
I recently simunlocked my SK17a using Omnius so I went ahead to unlock the bootloader on my phone via the Sony Ericsson Official way and it ended up telling me that it's already unlocked, however, s1tool still gives me a capital R for the loader string and my phone still says "Bootloader Unlock Allowed: yes". I don't know weather to believe Android SDK or s1tool.
Try flashing a custom kernel in fastboot to test... if it works then you have successfully unlocked bootloader and kept DRM...
melander said:
Try flashing a custom kernel in fastboot to test... if it works then you have successfully unlocked bootloader and kept DRM...
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Is there a risk of bricking it?
raginruski said:
Is there a risk of bricking it?
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if you do it properly then there is no chance of bricking it.
flashing a kernel would not work if the bootloader is not unlocked...
I seem to not be able to find a .58 kernel.
Here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1398910 try this one it should work with stock rom.
I risked it by flashing CM7. My bootloader is unlocked!
well done!! you can be at ease anyways as there's almost no way you could brick your phone. anyway we are still here if you need any more help!!
Couple of things you might need to know
I've searched EVERYWHERE and not found an answer
Phone IS ROOTED
Phone is: Xperia RAY
its GSM Locked
Bootloader Unlock Allowed: NO
Now thats cleared my problem
I've searched loads of places (including here) to find a way to unlock my bootloader, the official method does not work (the one through Sony's website) as my phones bootloader is not allowed to be unlocked
So the obvious question is, how do i unlock the bootloader?
There are many threads about that. You can try the paid method via "wotan server", but nobody can promise it will work
Try Setool. I haven't used it but some people say it can unlock bootloaders. http://files.setool.net/support/SETool2/
gaza1994 said:
Couple of things you might need to know
I've searched EVERYWHERE and not found an answer
Phone IS ROOTED
Phone is: Xperia RAY
its GSM Locked
Bootloader Unlock Allowed: NO
Now thats cleared my problem
I've searched loads of places (including here) to find a way to unlock my bootloader, the official method does not work (the one through Sony's website) as my phones bootloader is not allowed to be unlocked
So the obvious question is, how do i unlock the bootloader?
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you can try testpoint method
you can unlock via setool, testpoint method, but if your phone says: Bootloader Unlock Allowed: NO then the fastboot mode is disabled, so you can not flash custom kernels even you unlocked it
the only way is a paid method like wotanserver, which i used a year ago and i recommend it