I have read around but found no answer..
Some say its impossible some say its possible can some one tell me for sure if its possible and if it is how would I do it?
And in the service menu it says "Bootloader unlock allowed: No"
used the GENERIC rom 042
Bootloader unlock allowed: YES
and use omnius
Lasy said:
used the GENERIC rom 042
Bootloader unlock allowed: YES
and use omnius
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And how do i do that..
To flash other ROM, you can try WotanServer or Flashtool, last one requires correct files, WotanServer needs, that you only pick, which version of firmware you want(and free account).
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To flash other ROM, you can try WotanServer or Flashtool, last one requires correct files, WotanServer needs, that you only pick, which version of firmware you want(and free account).
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And i can do all that on stock mini?
Halv said:
And i can do all that on stock mini?
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Yes you can do it in stock with Wotan server but take into account that this process only changes the firmware version you are on for a generic one from se maybe a newer one but nothing more after this you still won't be able to flash custom kernels or roms unless you unlock your bootloader and fast boot.
You can try the unofficial way for the bootloader and it might work I cannot warranty it but it will not be that good as most of the roms need they own kernels and you will need access to fastboot mode to do that, unfortunately you need to completely unlock your phone either with omnius or setool to gain access to fastboot and this will cost you some money.
How can flashing that 042rom allow bootloader unlocking??
Just for the hell of it, i flashed my mini pro with that rom and it has not let me unlock the bootloader at all so im a little confused here
Seansmit17 said:
How can flashing that 042rom allow bootloader unlocking??
Just for the hell of it, i flashed my mini pro with that rom and it has not let me unlock the bootloader at all so im a little confused here
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Man that is why I hate when people just write for the like of it!!! @ seansmit17 this is not with you I hope you know what I mean.
If you have the message unlock bootloader allowed: no; then it means your phone is sim locked this will lock the fastboot mode too so you will not be able to flash a custom kernel unless you unlock the sim and fastboot mode (connecting the phone turned off and holding the volume up key to the computer = blue notification led with turned off screen and phone), the only means that I know off to unlock is either omnius or setool, this is for the sim and fastboot and it is not free.
For the bootloader you can use the test point method found in the development section, of course I can't guarantee it will work and of course this will NOT UNLOCK YOUR SIM OR FASTBOOT MODE BUT ONLY YOUR BOOTLOADER.
When you install a generic firm with Wotan server it is like a seus upgrade and nothing else well it will allow you to get the last upgrades when they come out due to a change in product code but that's it. The same with flashtool but without the change in product code.
Hope it helps.
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Hi there is it possible to relock the boot loader for xperia mini? I unlocked it because i tried CM7. Now I am thinking of going bag to original firmware. Any help is appreciated!
If relocating is not possible, what should one do to get as close as possible back to the original firmware, is it still possible to get official upgrades?
Best,
Thorsten
Thorstenk said:
Hi there is it possible to relock the boot loader for xperia mini? I unlocked it because i tried CM7. Now I am thinking of going bag to original firmware. Any help is appreciated!
If relocating is not possible, what should one do to get as close as possible back to the original firmware, is it still possible to get official upgrades?
Best,
Thorsten
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First, this is ray forum
Second, try here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1126358
Third, remember if you are doing it with official method, you will never able to receive FOTA or SEUS update, you can, but only by flashing from xda.
So since we did the unofficial method, After we update through SEUS the bootloader is still unlocked?
I don't know about that. Since the service info still says bootloader unlocking allowed, I think the phone thinks itself as still locked. Flashing from seus might rely more on drm instead of whether the bootloader as locked or not.
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I don't know about that. Since the service info still says bootloader unlocking allowed, I think the phone thinks itself as still locked. Flashing from seus might rely more on drm instead of whether the bootloader as locked or not.
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when service info says Bootloader unlock allowed: true, that means that it the bootloader is locked, but can be unlocked at will
as many devs say, unlocking the bootloader voids the warranty and bricks the phone when doing FOTA or SEUS
but there's a flashtool out there for us that will take care of it
yujin_11 said:
when service info says Bootloader unlock allowed: true, that means that it the bootloader is locked, but can be unlocked at will
as many devs say, unlocking the bootloader voids the warranty and bricks the phone when doing FOTA or SEUS
but there's a flashtool out there for us that will take care of it
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You do know this method right? http://androidflip.com/unlock-xperia-phones-bootloader-without-losing-drm-data-track-id-working/ When using that method, it is unlocked but the report still says 'Bootloader unlock allowed: true'. So if you use this method (as what idareyou and me were doing back then) the phone thinks that it is still 'locked', even though it's unlocked.
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You do know this method right? http://androidflip.com/unlock-xperia-phones-bootloader-without-losing-drm-data-track-id-working/ When using that method, it is unlocked but the report still says 'Bootloader unlock allowed: true'. So if you use this method (as what idareyou and me were doing back then) the phone thinks that it is still 'locked', even though it's unlocked.
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Yeah. I can confirm that my bootloader is unlocked but it still says 'Bootloader unlock allowed:Yes'
I thought at first I wasn't succesful even though it went smoothly so I tried flashing custom Kernel and it was succesful.
I want to know if in the future if SE release their ICS and we update using SEUS the unlocked bootloader remains because believe me, I don't want to go through the same process again, I got electrecuted several time because I don't have test points, just a clip and copper wire.
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Veimus from original thread confirm that seus do works and he can reflash the gingerbread from seus. Sm gt should be ok with ics, And with Sony confirms mo changes hm kernel. I think it will be Rom update only.
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Yeah. I can confirm that my bootloader is unlocked but it still says 'Bootloader unlock allowed:Yes'
I thought at first I wasn't succesful even though it went smoothly so I tried flashing custom Kernel and it was succesful.
I want to know if in the future if SE release their ICS and we update using SEUS the unlocked bootloader remains because believe me, I don't want to go through the same process again, I got electrecuted several time because I don't have test points, just a clip and copper wire.
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That's why you connect it to ground, silly! (The first two battery pins)
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You do know this method right? http://androidflip.com/unlock-xperia-phones-bootloader-without-losing-drm-data-track-id-working/ When using that method, it is unlocked but the report still says 'Bootloader unlock allowed: true'. So if you use this method (as what idareyou and me were doing back then) the phone thinks that it is still 'locked', even though it's unlocked.
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yes i do, apparently i forgot to mention your last sentence. you've just beat me to it )
To reiterate for anybody's notice:
Bootloader unlock allowed: true
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means that you can unlock the bootloader, BUT it does not say if the bootloader is locked/unlocked already
I researched about the matter, and reached some conclusions:
- I don't want to use the TEST POINTER method, I really don't care about OTA updates or Track ID app (as far as I know there are no more consequences), Shazam and Soundhound do the same
- I would like to unlock the bootloader in some manner that, if I need to relock the warranty will still be valid (same goes for root, but I guess flashing an original firmware unroots the device)
That said, found the official instructions to unlock the BL, but still have the main question: is it the procedure completely reversible? Also, is it free?
Thanks in advance. Also really appreciate if someone corrects something wrong I said.
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I researched about the matter, and reached some conclusions:
- I don't want to use the TEST POINTER method, I really don't care about OTA updates or Track ID app (as far as I know there are no more consequences), Shazam and Soundhound do the same
- I would like to unlock the bootloader in some manner that, if I need to relock the warranty will still be valid (same goes for root, but I guess flashing an original firmware unroots the device)
That said, found the official instructions to unlock the BL, but still have the main question: is it the procedure completely reversible? Also, is it free?
Thanks in advance. Also really appreciate if someone corrects something wrong I said.
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you can still relock your bootloader and receive official sony updates, but the problem is, you loose DRM(in which if sony finds out, you still lose warranty).
i found this thread and said that DRM cannot be restored :/
I don't know about non free relocking if it will be able to restore DRM though.
oh and by the way, this thread provides the easiest way to unlock and relock your bootloader for free.
goodluck and enjoy
DRM cannot be restored at all.
Install TrackID from market and it will work.
Bootloader can be relocked, doesn't matter how you unlocked.
And yes, it is free.
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Someguyfromhell said:
DRM cannot be restored at all.
Install TrackID from market and it will work.
Bootloader can be relocked, doesn't matter how you unlocked.
And yes, it is free.
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Ok, so I suppose the DRM Keys only affect the OTA updates (how should we care if we are unlocking BL for custom ROMs
So, I suppose if I have a problem on my Live (but it still turns on), I apply an OFW and then relock it, it's a matter of luck if the techical assistance is going to check if the DRM is still valid or not.
What method do you advice to unlock the BL?
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Ok, so I suppose the DRM Keys only affect the OTA updates (how should we care if we are unlocking BL for custom ROMs
So, I suppose if I have a problem on my Live (but it still turns on), I apply an OFW and then relock it, it's a matter of luck if the techical assistance is going to check if the DRM is still valid or not.
What method do you advice to unlock the BL?
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Method, pick which is better for you. I used official method, no messing with cables.
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Unlock it the way you prefer to it does not matter it will lose warranty any way it is just luck if they will check it or not at the service center. Any way it is really hard to completely brick your phone unless you don't know what you are doing. The main difference is with the test point method you are able to update using seus without problems and it looks more complicated than it really is I only used a clip
just a question about unlocking thru official method.
since you would have to get the unlock key directly from Sony.
would they be able to track your phone since you will be giving them some details like your name, IMEI, email etc. to get the unlock code?
do the service centers have access to that database?
There are no Sony Mobile Service Centers, phones need to be taken back to shop and they use service of specific mobile repair shop.
Depending on what reason you need to take it back, they might want to check it or not. No one has so far done this, so we have no information.
What is DRM and Track ID ?
I want to unlock bootloader my phone, but I am still confused, what is the risk of a official bootloader from sony ? What is DRM and Track ID ? what is its usefulness for wt19i?
sorry my english is not good
dianfajar said:
I want to unlock bootloader my phone, but I am still confused, what is the risk of a official bootloader from sony ? What is DRM and Track ID ? what is its usefulness for wt19i?
sorry my english is not good
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There is no risk either way the difference is that with the official method you will lose your drm (Digital rights management) and the official support of track id (the app from se that you use to search for the info of a song playing in the radio or the tv etc.) meanwhile using the test point method you will not lose them. If you want to install a custom rom like cm9 or miui you need to unlock your bootloader to be able to flash the custom kernels those roms need.
can you save DRM with CWM backup before unlocking bootloader?
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can you save DRM with CWM backup before unlocking bootloader?
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Nope, DRM is not saved in CWM backup.
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Thanks in advance for all helpfull answers.
I just want to understand the following. Some Live's come with "unlock bootloader allowed"="no" others ="yes". What does that means and more important: what are the implications?
I cannot understand the difference because as fair as I understand right now, all live's (branded/sim unlocked or not) are unlockable (referring to bootloader).
Maxxd01 said:
Thanks in advance for all helpfull answers.
I just want to understand the following. Some Live's come with "unlock bootloader allowed"="no" others ="yes". What does that means and more important: what are the implications?
I cannot understand the difference because as fair as I understand right now, all live's (branded/sim unlocked or not) are unlockable (referring to bootloader).
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When they come with boot loader unlock : no it is a branded sim locked phone in which case you can unlock bootloader but you will have no access to fastboot meaning you are unable to flash a custom kernel, also there will be no way you can officially unlock the bootloader so will have to use the test point method and of course you will need to pay to fully unlock your phone to be able to access fastboot and flash custom kernels.
Did I miss something??
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When they come with boot loader unlock : no it is a branded sim locked phone in which case you can unlock bootloader but you will have no access to fastboot meaning you are unable to flash a custom kernel, also there will be no way you can officially unlock the bootloader so will have to use the test point method and of course you will need to pay to fully unlock your phone to be able to access fastboot and flash custom kernels.
Did I miss something??
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So, for sim locked branded phones ("no")
- To unlock the bootloader: test point method
- Access fastboot: use (and pay) through wotan server
Am I right? I never though that was two different problems.
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So, for sim locked branded phones ("no")
- To unlock the bootloader: test point method
- Access fastboot: use (and pay) through wotan server
Am I right? I never though that was two different problems.
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I'm not really sure about Wotan server however I'm pretty sure about setool and omnius and if you are willing to pay the phone will be fully unlocked (bootloader, sim and fastboot) with one procedure using the test point method.
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When they come with boot loader unlock : no it is a branded sim locked phone in which case you can unlock bootloader but you will have no access to fastboot meaning you are unable to flash a custom kernel, also there will be no way you can officially unlock the bootloader so will have to use the test point method and of course you will need to pay to fully unlock your phone to be able to access fastboot and flash custom kernels.
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So, I'm curious, if I have branded sim lock Live ("no" bootloader) can I install an original firmware without using an official channel? Do I need fastboot access?
I'm asking because I'm almost sure that my carrier will not update the Live to 4.0, so I suppose I have to use some other tool in order to install it.
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So, I'm curious, if I have branded sim lock Live ("no" bootloader) can I install an original firmware without using an official channel? Do I need fastboot access?
I'm asking because I'm almost sure that my carrier will not update the Live to 4.0, so I suppose I have to use some other tool in order to install it.
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you can debrand (install a generic firmware) your phone using wotan server for free and as i know it will also change your product code so next time and official sony update is available your phone will get it.
thancks! its helps...
another noob question from me
can i relock BL from test point method?
n do i have to flash stock kernel before relock?
i'm using rage kernel right now.
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Sony Xperia Neo V
Stock ROM 4.0.4 (Updated 4.0.3 to 4.0.4 via OTA)
Rooted via DooMLoRD
CWM Recovery installed.
I need to find out if my Xperia Neo V have a locked or unlocked bootloader..?
I have read through different thread and have googled as well, but still was not able to get a concrete answer.
I have never unlocked it myself, not intentionally atleast.
When I check via *#*#7378423#*#*, it says 'Bootloader unlock allowed: Yes'. Some guys around XDA says if its unlocked, it will say ''Bootloader unlocked: Yes' but others say it will show the first one regardless of the lock state.
PC Companion and SUS can detect it just fine and I can repair and update my phone, which leads me to believe its locked.
But then, I can get into flash mode, use flash tool to load different ROMs and also have CWM installed - doesn't it need a unlocked bootloader?
And, if I am on a locked bootloader, what's the advantage of an unlocked one then, what am I missing?
Bootloader unlocked: Yes only means that your fastboot is unlocked,that your phone isn't SIM locked, not that your bootloader is unlocked.
Being able to enter flash mode, flash different rom's, cwm doesn't mean your BL is unlocked.
There are rom's that require custom kernel, if you wanna use those rom's you need to unlock your BL.
Advantage is anything that can be done with custom kernels, mainly overclock, undervolt, change some parameters...
Go to Neo V development section, in one sticky thread you can find s1tool. Get it and identify your phone with it.
Just a fact that you didn't unlock it tells that it's locked. All Xperia phones have locked BL's. All 2011 Xperias with sim lock, have locked fastboot, which means you need to pay to unlock it and by that you enable fastboot and unlock your BL.
Thanks buddy (button pressed). So, unlocked bootloader means warranty gone forever, right? Irreversible?
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So, unlocked bootloader means warranty gone forever, right? Irreversible?
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Well, if you use official method, even if you relock it they can see in service center, when they connect it, it will show that DRM certificate is missing. I'm not saying they will look for that, but it will be visible.
In my opinion patched bl is best option, with s1tool. Also you can relock it. As far as I know nothing will pop up on their PC.
Alright buddy, got the idea. Thanks a lot.
hi guys
im new in Sony Xperia group
i want know if my Z2 bootloader lock or unlock?
i got it from uk
Open the phone app & enter *#*#7378423#*#* the look for configuration & tap that, that should tell you if bootloader is unlockable, if it says yes then you good to go, if it says no then you out of luck I'm afraid.
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Open the phone app & enter *#*#7378423#*#* the look for configuration & tap that, that should tell you if bootloader is unlockable, if it says yes then you good to go, if it says no then you out of luck I'm afraid.
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if say Bootloader unlock allowed: yes
im lucky or not
You can use flashtool (not emma) to bootloader unlock
Flashtool.net is the place to get flashtool from, you may need drivers Fastboot Flashmode Z2 dev drivers
I think you dont need in newerversions
Im not sure
@DinarQ8 yeah mate that means you can unlock the bootloader
@Envious_Data Do you still need to get unlock key though sony's developer site to unlock with FlashTool? Also what is the best & easiest way to root the phone? I'm used to galaxy devices so sony unlock & root is new to me.
BanziBaby said:
@DinarQ8 yeah mate that means you can unlock the bootloader
@Envious_Data Do you still need to get unlock key though sony's developer site to unlock with FlashTool? Also what is the best & easiest way to root the phone? I'm used to galaxy devices so sony unlock & root is new to me.
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Yes, flashtool does the normal terminal stuff for you
You still have to get IEME and unlock code
It will give instructions
Cheers, does Flashtool also easily root it or do you need a custom kernel for root to work?
Sorry for all the questions, just want to make sure I do things right & don't end up with a sexy brick :fingers-crossed:
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Cheers, does Flashtool also easily root it or do you need a custom kernel for root to work?
Sorry for all the questions, just want to make sure I do things right & don't end up with a sexy brick :fingers-crossed:
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You can use Flashtool to root, but not via its root function. Put the phone in fastboot mode and flash Doomlord's CWM+kernel package (I installed v.02 since my phone is on firmware .55) in Flashtool (using the fastboot option that pops up when you click the lightning button). Then reboot into CWM recovery and flash SuperSU. Then reboot into the system and install busybox into /xbin. You should be good then.
So if it says bootloader unlock is not allowed does that mean there is no possible way to unlock it and root the device?
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it said the same thing on my xperia s but i still could unlock
i dont recomend trying untill you get more info
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Just got an E10a off eBay and PC Companion would only update it to 2.0.1.A.0.47. I think I need 2.1.1 and a specific baseband to flash CM, but I can't use a E10i 2.1.1 FTF or I will lose the 3G connection.
I just wanted to verify, from my reading here, that if I wanted to flash miniCM10 I should flash chavito's E10a rom with the appropriate baseband (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1294579) then unlock the bootloader and flash after that?
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Just got an E10a off eBay and PC Companion would only update it to 2.0.1.A.0.47. I think I need 2.1.1 and a specific baseband to flash CM, but I can't use a E10i 2.1.1 FTF or I will lose the 3G connection.
I just wanted to verify, from my reading here, that if I wanted to flash miniCM10 I should flash chavito's E10a rom with the appropriate baseband (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1294579) then unlock the bootloader and flash after that?
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Yes, and make sure your phone isn't locked to a provider, the bootloader unlock may disable the entire radiochip (2G/3G). You can unlock the bootloader, boot into the ROM and see if you get signal, if you don't you have to lock the bootloader again.
(If you play with flashtool, DELETE the10blrelock.ftf from the flashtool/firmware folder, it will hardbrick your phone if flashed accidentally)
Thanks for the quick reply! Carrier unlocking is the other question I have. I've tried a couple of places to get the IMEI-based unlock code, but none of them can find it. So I'm thinking of getting a USB unlock from this place:
https://www.fastgsm.com/en/sonyericsson/xperia-x10-mini-e10i/unlock-network/flashing-debrand
It says that it will carrier unlock AND unlock the bootloader as well. So I should use that unlock service after I flash chavito's ROM but before I flash miniCM10?
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Thanks for the quick reply! Carrier unlocking is the other question I have. I've tried a couple of places to get the IMEI-based unlock code, but none of them can find it. So I'm thinking of getting a USB unlock from this place:
https://www.fastgsm.com/en/sonyericsson/xperia-x10-mini-e10i/unlock-network/flashing-debrand
It says that it will carrier unlock AND unlock the bootloader as well. So I should use that unlock service after I flash chavito's ROM but before I flash miniCM10?
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I don't know if your phone is locked to a provider, or which one if it is. The site you refer to says it can only do it for a limited number of countries and providers, but it don't list which ones up front, so be careful with that. If sim-cards from different providers work on your phone, just skip that and unlock the bootloader using flashtool. But yes, you should first flash that latest firmware before you unlock the bootloader.