[Q] Initial Charge - Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey guys!
I'm getting my SGS3 in 2days!
Can the people who have bought the phone please tell me for how long to put the phone through the initial charge? Is there any specific way/cycle to do it? Please let me know!
Thanks in advance!
Sorry if this has been posted before! I searched but didn't find any!

yuvas said:
Hey guys!
I'm getting my SGS3 in 2days!
Can the people who have bought the phone please tell me for how long to put the phone through the initial charge? Is there any specific way/cycle to do it? Please let me know!
Thanks in advance!
Sorry if this has been posted before! I searched but didn't find any!
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You should do a google search. Anyway, there are many different opinions out there. From what I understand, the initial charge is less important than it used to be; current batteries do not have 'memory' effects. I still fully charge batteries first, but you could start using your device immediately, that shouldn't have any impact on battery life. As long as you never fully drain your battery! It's best to start charging again around 10%. But correct me if I'm wrong

All times are with the supplied wall charger:
Charging out of the box (came 50% charged) = about 2 hours
Charging from 0 to 100% = 5.5 hours

mbroeders said:
You should do a google search. Anyway, there are many different opinions out there. From what I understand, the initial charge is less important than it used to be; current batteries do not have 'memory' effects. I still fully charge batteries first, but you could start using your device immediately, that shouldn't have any impact on battery life. As long as you never fully drain your battery! It's best to start charging again around 10%. But correct me if I'm wrong
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Whops.
I did totally wrong then.
I always waited to be with 0 battery and then I charged.
Good to know, I'll start to charge now when it's 10%. Do you turn off to charge or not really necessary?

Lennyuk said:
All times are with the supplied wall charger:
Charging out of the box (came 50% charged) = about 2 hours
Charging from 0 to 100% = 5.5 hours
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Is it true that Li-on Battery should not be allowed to drain out completely?
0 TO 100% =5.5 HOURS???!!! isn't that too long??!!

Full charge takes about 2hrs 20mins and yeah it does have about 50% charge out the box, and what I always do with new phones is switch off and charge about 4hrs and give it another full charge when it's no lower than quarter full for the first 5 charges and it's around full capacity by then.

hhoverflow said:
Whops.
I did totally wrong then.
I always waited to be with 0 battery and then I charged.
Good to know, I'll start to charge now when it's 10%. Do you turn off to charge or not really necessary?
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I don't think it matters if you turn off your phone or not, charging will just take slightly longer.

Guys please be carefull with what you post maybe do some research (not listed to anyone in particular). The Galaxy S3 uses a Lithium-ion battery. I have found a little atricle for you to read, Here is one simple quote:
Lithium-ion is a low maintenance battery, an advantage that most other chemistries cannot claim. There is no memory and no scheduled cycling is required to prolong the battery's life.
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Also you won't drain your battery till 0%(0V) because the phone will shut down and maintain a safe voltage. (Unless you keep reboot it after it has shut itself down)
0% indicator of your phone is not the actual 0V of the battery (Just to be clear)
Source: http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/is_lithium_ion_the_ideal_battery

JonasDroid said:
Guys please be carefull with what you post maybe do some research (not listed to anyone in particular). The Galaxy S3 uses a Lithium-ion battery. I have found a little atricle for you to read, Here is one simple quote:
Also you won't drain your battery till 0%(0V) because the phone will shut down and maintain a safe voltage. (Unless you keep reboot it after it has shut itself down)
0% indicator of your phone is not the actual 0V of the battery (Just to be clear)
Source: http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/is_lithium_ion_the_ideal_battery
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Thanks for the info! Really useful read!

Thanks for the info, when i collect my phone the sales person asked me to charged 8 hours before use, sigh

JonasDroid said:
Guys please be carefull with what you post maybe do some research (not listed to anyone in particular). The Galaxy S3 uses a Lithium-ion battery. I have found a little atricle for you to read, Here is one simple quote:
Also you won't drain your battery till 0%(0V) because the phone will shut down and maintain a safe voltage. (Unless you keep reboot it after it has shut itself down)
0% indicator of your phone is not the actual 0V of the battery (Just to be clear)
Source: http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/is_lithium_ion_the_ideal_battery
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I understand that Li-ion batteries don't have memory effect and don't need to be conditioned. The one question I have is about the so-called "calibration". I read somewhere that draining the battery until the phone shuts itself off and then fully charge it makes the battery measurement more accurate. Is that true or myth? Thanks!

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question about reconditioning battery

yesterday after flashing nero 5 i wanted to recondition, so while sleeping at night i charged my phone to 100, and now during the day time im trying to waste the battery, but during that i got caught up on adb and connected my charger, and left it there, now its back at 83% battery, does this mess up the reconditioning process? or do i have charge back to 100, then do it all over?
anyone? please lol
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anyone? please lol
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what you should do is drain it all the way untill you cant turn it on anymore and leave it chargin all night turned off, and when you wake up turn it on and let it charge untill its full again, then boot into recovery and wipe batt statt , and you should be good to go mine last about 20 hours after i did that
T.C.P said:
what you should do is drain it all the way untill you cant turn it on anymore and leave it chargin all night turned off, and when you wake up turn it on and let it charge untill its full again, then boot into recovery and wipe batt statt , and you should be good to go mine last about 20 hours after i did that
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I did just about the same with mine, minus the chargin all night turned off, and I am getting about 20-24 hours with mine, which is more than I need as I plug it in every night
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I did just about the same with mine, minus the chargin all night turned off, and I am getting about 20-24 hours with mine, which is more than I need as I plug it in every night
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me to im near a power source or computer all the time so
What you should do is keep letting it drain until 1% or so. I don't think you need to let it die completely. Charge to 100%. Boot into recovery and clear battery stats with the charger still plugged in. This is the important part. Then drain the battery and charge to full. Then you should be good to go.
question, after draining to about 1%, does the phone have to be off? and can i use the phone just a bit while its charging?
xriderx66 said:
question, after draining to about 1%, does the phone have to be off? and can i use the phone just a bit while its charging?
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The general consensus is that when you condition you should charge the phone while it's off. I don't know enough about battery chemistry to tell you why. Just do it to be safe
Battery "recondition", actually does not "recondition" the battery, it is a trick just to get more accuarte readings (that's the only reason you reset STATS)
The battery may not charge up to 100% and will never do, just following this procedure. It will just say it is @ 100% when you actually are @ 85 or 87, that's why the sudden "jump" you see.
Best way to try to get better readings is charging the battery till it says 100%, unplug it and plug it again a couple of times until it fully charges and follow the same procedure.
Once yo did this a few times, turn off phone, reboot in CWM (with the phone never unpluged) and clear battery stats. turn off phone and unplug,,,,
You will got at least more accurate readings
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Battery "recondition", actually does not "recondition" the battery, it is a trick just to get more accuarte readings (that's the only reason you reset STATS)
The battery may not charge up to 100% and will never do, just following this procedure. It will just say it is @ 100% when you actually are @ 85 or 87, that's why the sudden "jump" you see.
Best way to try to get better readings is charging the battery till it says 100%, unplug it and plug it again a couple of times until it fully charges and follow the same procedure.
Once yo did this a few times, turn off phone, reboot in CWM (with the phone never unpluged) and clear battery stats. turn off phone and unplug,,,,
You will got at least more accurate readings
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Android Police did a piece on plugging and unplugging your phone to get up to 100% (it's called bump charging, see below). They recommended that you NOT do it because it doesn't get you much additional juice and you wear your battery out faster. Normally I just charge my battery up to 100% (no drain), wipe the battery stats, unplug and go until it dies. I use it while it's plugged in and still get a full day easily out of my phone.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/1...bump-charging-and-inconsistent-battery-drain/
I hate to be the bearer of bad news. You can not condition a Lithium-Ion battery. All you are doing is wearing it out prematurely by deep cycling. Every time you do this you destroy your over all battery life a little.
I have posted about this here in several thread, and I am getting a little tired of having to tell people NOT to do this because they don't search for themselves. Do a search on the forums for deep cycle li-ion and see for yourself.
If you want to know the technical reasons why, Google is your friend.
so we just deal with what is perceived as faster battery depletion?
Im asking because As i have posted on another threat I am a complete freak about my battery life.
Basically yes, I have 3 batteries to go around all day, although I us the car charger, if for any reason one day I take the train to the city, I will eat up 2 and a half batteries in a day.......
I had 3 batterys for my hd2 I need to get 2 new batteries for my vibrant. I guess im just tripping because I tried and over clock kernal and it seems like its dying faster while the screen is off
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I hate to be the bearer of bad news. You can not condition a Lithium-Ion battery. All you are doing is wearing it out prematurely by deep cycling. Every time you do this you destroy your over all battery life a little.
I have posted about this here in several thread, and I am getting a little tired of having to tell people NOT to do this because they don't search for themselves. Do a search on the forums for deep cycle li-ion and see for yourself.
If you want to know the technical reasons why, Google is your friend.
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went to your link, and found this..
http://www.ehow.com/how_6803484_do-lithium-battery-cell-phone_.html
anyways, i've heard it all, and even i used to agree with people like you, and it probably DOES wear out my battery, but the first time i did it, i got 6 hours more in battery, does that mean that my batterys dying because its giving me more life?
hazard99 said:
so we just deal with what is perceived as faster battery depletion?
Im asking because As i have posted on another threat I am a complete freak about my battery life.
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Yea, just chill. It is all in your head. From ROM to ROM, usage pattern to usage pattern, and app version to app version - there are just too many variables to worry about. Just use your phone, charge it when it needs it, and relax.
Your phone's battery is going to get less life as it ages. There is nothing you can do about that. Also, it will likely only get 2-3 years before it needs replacement. If it gets less than 2 years it is because you have been "conditioning" it. which ages it prematurely and also causes how long it lasts between charges to shorten as well.
Li-ion does not have a memory, so conditioning is an inherently false concept. Recalibrating the devices ability to read the battery is a different story, but it should only be done if it really needs it (like it thinks it is at 1% when it is at 20%), and it should never be done more frequently than a minimum of 30 charge cycles or if you charge it once a day when you go to bed no more than once a month. Less frequent is better.
So sorry, you need to find something else to obsess about. Might I suggest getting Team Whiskey to make BlackFroyo the default theme, use the 5 bar signal meter, the larger numbers on the battery, and the hacked camera the used the power button to take pictures. That would save all of us some time.
xriderx66 said:
went to your link, and found this..
http://www.ehow.com/how_6803484_do-lithium-battery-cell-phone_.html
anyways, i've heard it all, and even i used to agree with people like you, and it probably DOES wear out my battery, but the first time i did it, i got 6 hours more in battery, does that mean that my batterys dying because its giving me more life?
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Nice link - try reading the stuff by the engineers that work with batteries for a living now instead. You do know eHow is just a site where any idiot that thinks they know something can post, right? Are you going to reference wikipedia next?
BTW when you recalibrated your battery and got 6 more hours, did you do anything else that might have explained it? You know like flash a new effing ROM? That might possible change a few things to do with your power usage.
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Nice link - try reading the stuff by the engineers that work with batteries for a living now instead. You do know eHow is just a site where any idiot that thinks they know something can post, right? Are you going to reference wikipedia next?
BTW when you recalibrated your battery and got 6 more hours, did you do anything else that might have explained it? You know like flash a new effing ROM? That might possible change a few things to do with your power usage.
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it was a joke
and no, i flashed Nero 4.1, and then used it for a week thinking the phone would adjust to the battery and new rom, it didn't.
then i thought i'd just take a chance and recondition my battery, it was my first time, and it worked out great.
and trust me i'm a heavy user.
roughly 300-400 texts per day.
20-40 phone calls
music about 5 hours per day
and i play soem games, but thats understandable because playing dungeon defenders uses like 30% battery per hour bcz of the high graphics and such.
a bunch of app downloading.

[Q] Charging optimus one

Hi guys i just bought optimus one yesterday and then i charged it for the first time 4 hours until battery empty. My question is how long should i charge it after i charged it for 4 hours. i am correct the sale lady said 4 hours
what should i do next to extend my battery life plss give me some tips in charging thanks
LG recommends you do a full charge / full discharge cycle when you start using the phone. So if you fully charged the battery (and I think 4 hours was enough to accomplish that) now all you have to do is wait for the battery to empty and then fully charge it again. You don't have to keep it plugged in for 4 hours if the battery charges faster. When it's full, you can unplug it.
Then, the best practice for this battery is to charge it whenever possible, even if you still have enough to go throughout the day. Keeping the battery over 30-40% at all times gives you longer battery life, but once in a month you should perform again a full discharge / full charge cycle to re-caliber the battery power meter.
Please read this for a better understanding of how Li-Ion batteries work and should be taken care of.
thanks master but last night i decided to charged it at 1% then i slept and my phone was charging for almost 6 hours. it this ok? i only do full/discharge one time?
BTW it this normal that in status it said not charging instead of discharging?
miedy12 said:
thanks master but last night i decided to charged it at 1% then i slept and my phone was charging for almost 6 hours. it this ok? i only do full/discharge one time?
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Yes, it is OK, and yes - only one time. To be sure, read the phone's manual. It says there how to proceed - please ignore the sales lady. Then you may do it only once in a while, to keep the power meter accurate.
Regarding the full charging/discharging cycle: Li-Ion batteries don't need that. There's no "memory effect" plaguing them, as was the case of NiMH or NiCd batteries who lost capacity if charged less than 100% or before complete depletion. Or, simply put: charge this battery as often as you want, for as much or as less as you want.
Furthermore: Li-Ion batteries have a limited charge/discharge cycles count. Around 500, I think. If you charge the battery more often, before dropping below 30%, the charge doesn't count as a full charge. This gives you a longer lifespan for the battery before replacing it (but not a longer time before the next charge).
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BTW it this normal that in status it said not charging instead of discharging?
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Yes, that is also normal. Mine says "Not charging" in status too.
thank you so much master it enlightened me btw can i ask you about missed message flasher? or at least do you have backlight notification for p500 that working with go sms and normal messaging
Tomatox works well
miedy12 said:
thank you so much master it enlightened me btw can i ask you about missed message flasher? or at least do you have backlight notification for p500 that working with go sms and normal messaging
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Sorry, but I do not use this feature because I don't need it. I am only sending and receiving a few SMS messages a month.
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Tomatox works well
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hey what u mean?
ok mteryx thanks a lot
First time charging
Hey,
I've just got my LG Optimus One delivered, I'm charging it and at the start I could see it was charging but after about 2 and a half hours it's been now, I can't. So do I just wait until it's fully charged and the icon will come up itself or do I press the unlock/power button to see how much it's charged or any signal it's charging?
Just asking because I don't want to turn it on when I'm not supposed to and mess the intial first time charge up.
Thanks.
is there any apps that actually drains batt then do a full charge?
I use battery doctor but sometimes it is hard to do a full charge because to do a full charge battery has to be less than 20%
but at the end of the day (before going to bed)
my battery still at 30% ...
lol nothing happens if u dnt hav full discharge. Its jst a recommendation for good battery life, jst buy a new battery if ur not satisfied with ur battery life rather than breaking ur head before putting it for charging...
charging rate
After some search I was unable to find an answer to the question:
What is the charging rate (in mAh) of LG P500 default adapter?
If I buy a replacement of original micro USB charger, what can I use?
500 mAh, 1000 mAh, some other?
Is there a difference for the battery?
Input= 0.2A
Output=0.7A
Sent from my LG-P500 using XDA

3D maintenance

I havent gotten a new phone since 09 Hero.....whats the deal with battery charging. Do I need to fully charge the phone before using it? Do you drain the battery fully before re-charging it?
what give the battery the best life possible?
Never, ever, never, ever, never, never, ever drain a lithium based battery to nothing. Very, very bad. Charge it and keep it above 50% for the firstweek.
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overclockxp said:
Never, ever, never, ever, never, never, ever drain a lithium based battery to nothing. Very, very bad. Charge it and keep it above 50% for the firstweek.
Swyped from my Atari 2600
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Thank you. That is the type of advice I need.
kinextions said:
I havent gotten a new phone since 09 Hero.....whats the deal with battery charging. Do I need to fully charge the phone before using it? Do you drain the battery fully before re-charging it?
what give the battery the best life possible?
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Even your Hero should be the same. Most modern cell phones use Lithium Ion which do not have memory effect.
There is no memory for Li-ion batteries so go ahead and just use your phone. You do not have to keep it above or below a certain charge. The phone will not allow the battery to drain to completion so you do not have to worry about that. It is very bad to let a Li-ion battery completely drain but there are fail safe measures implemented in the phone/battery to prevent that. 0% charge on your phone does not mean 0% battery, its just the mA at which your phone thinks the battery has 0% battery remaining.
I wonder if there's going to be a similar procedure to the OG EVO's plug, unplug, turn off, charge, unplug, turn on, turn off, charge method (or whatever it was) to maximize battery life.
mevensen said:
I wonder if there's going to be a similar procedure to the OG EVO's plug, unplug, turn off, charge, unplug, turn on, turn off, charge method (or whatever it was) to maximize battery life.
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Bump charging works for lots of phones to my understanding. Something about how the phone at first doesn't charge to 100% - when it gets to a certain point it just keeps it maintained at that level .
While it is true that lithium ion batteries don’t suffer from “memory” problems such as NiCad batteries they do have a lifespan. For example, the lithium battery in the laptop that I am using right now, and have used for the past year, currently has a 98% charge and is not charging. That’s much, much better than a NiCad battery would be. I can really see the NiCad issue in my rechargeable cordless tools.
But lithium batteries will eventually die. Just ask the first generation iPud owners. Their batteries were failing just after a year of ownership and Apphole wouldn’t do anything about it. They had reached the end of life of their batteries.
Lithium batteries do take a little bit to break in though. You’ll notice a slight improvement as time goes on for the next month. But I would still refrain from draining the battery too much.
Thanks for the input...I too have the hero, and was curios...
...is it Friday yet?
there was a recent article I seen from a link in the g2x forums where they go to actual experts on the lithium who designed the actual cells and ask them how is best to charge them.
the honest answer is for life being your most concern. that means for the battery to keep a consistent charge over the life of the phone without losing actual daily life on the battery,
you have to plug it in when the phone ask at about 20%. then unplug it when the phone says the battery is full. Do not leave the battery plugged in for hours over full. said something about the charge disburst weird or something
anyway it was a link in the g2x forum in general. im sure you can finds it. Ill look if you really want me to,
Lots of info on Li-ion batteries:
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries
Being that the Battery stats are stored on the /Data partition, how is this minimum threshold managed?

Extended battery Question

Guys i bought a extended battery just a quick question
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Anker-Exten...353379?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item4ab00f01a3
is it safe to charge in the phone ?
leave me your input
I always have and never had a problem. Just charge it full before using it.
Where else would you charge it?
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Where else would you charge it?
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A dock/cradle with spare battery compartment.
Charges flawlessly in my phone. It does discharge quickly at first but it lasts alot longer than the stock.
My experience mirrors sauls.
I have the double pack with the external charger but always charge in phone.
Takes about 3 full cycles to get full performance and the first 10 - 15 % seem to drain much quicker but in long run way outlast the stock battery for me.
M9x3mos said:
My experience mirrors sauls.
I have the double pack with the external charger but always charge in phone.
Takes about 3 full cycles to get full performance and the first 10 - 15 % seem to drain much quicker but in long run way outlast the stock battery for me.
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thanks guys just ordered it
lol its my first extended battery, our school locks the internet so im the one that teathers it for everone and my phone is all ways dead i need a spare
This one says 3.7v and the stock battery is 3.8v....wonder if that will cause some issues. I think ill wait till they make one with the same volts.
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This one says 3.7v and the stock battery is 3.8v....wonder if that will cause some issues. I think ill wait till they make one with the same volts.
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It doesnt cause any issue except for maybe the fact that it seems to discharge quickly initially. The anker batteries was labeled to have a limit voltage of 4.2V which it reaches when its fully charged. It's possible that a 3.8V extended battery might give a better life but the 3.7V doesn't seem to have issues and they hold their charge pretty well.

battery won't charge past 96%

Hi guys, I am at my wits end with this stupid phone, If its not one problem its another. I was convinced this phone would have amazing battery life once seeing my cousins AT&T version, I bought the UK T-mobile version and its been plagued with faults. The main fault it has developed now is that it won't charge past 96%, I have configured the battery and installed the 1% battery fix and nothing is happening also my battery has been draining quicker than usual. Sometimes I get 13hrs sometimes I get 7hrs!? Could someone give me some advise? I was thinking of ringing my insurance company for a replacement (as it is with my bank and usually they just replace the phone)
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Hi guys, I am at my wits end with this stupid phone, If its not one problem its another. I was convinced this phone would have amazing battery life once seeing my cousins AT&T version, I bought the UK T-mobile version and its been plagued with faults. The main fault it has developed now is that it won't charge past 96%, I have configured the battery and installed the 1% battery fix and nothing is happening also my battery has been draining quicker than usual. Sometimes I get 13hrs sometimes I get 7hrs!? Could someone give me some advise? I was thinking of ringing my insurance company for a replacement (as it is with my bank and usually they just replace the phone)
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You should probably research a little bit more on the forums as there is a million answers about battery life issues.
here is a guide Fix Battery Life: Ultimate guide (calibrate + post#2 -FIXES)
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You should probably research a little bit more on the forums as there is a million answers about battery life issues.
here is a guide Fix Battery Life: Ultimate guide (calibrate + post#2 -FIXES)
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thats the guide I have followed, it does not work for me
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thats the guide I have followed, it does not work for me
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Yes it does. Charge with the phone turned off and it will get to 100%.
Also, read post #2.
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Yes it does. Charge with the phone turned off and it will get to 100%.
Also, read post #2.
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I'm sorry, are you sitting in front of my phone? I have followed this correctly on another atrix and it has worked for them, I don't know why its not working on mine I have followed it through properly.
How long have you had the phone?
One thing we all have to consider is that since the dev community has had to provide "fixes" for the Battery Reading on the Atrix it might be safe to say that at some point the measurement might become too accurate. What I mean by this is, I've had my phone for almost a year now and I'm pretty convinced that the reason my battery won't charge past 97% is because of the natural degradation of the lithium battery. It is a fact that lithium batteries can lose up to 10% of its charge capacity after a year. So I've accepted the fact that my battery just might be losing capacity and the battery mods I have applied to my phone are just that much more accurate.
This reminds me of the recently released Galaxy Nexus and people complaining about the signal and Verizon responded with that the "reading" was too accurate and that they'll release a patch that will basically "lie" to the end user about the strength of their connection.
http://www.androidcentral.com/verizon-galaxy-nexus-signal-strength-its-not-us-its-you
Verizon is just basically saying "Here, let us cripple your phone for you"
amzter said:
I'm sorry, are you sitting in front of my phone? I have followed this correctly on another atrix and it has worked for them, I don't know why its not working on mine I have followed it through properly.
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I have had the phone for about 3 months now. This is why I am saying its weird. The fact that it dies so quickly is another thing I got about 7 hours of moderate use with about 1hr 45 display time with 10 mins of music and about 10 texts and a few phone calls(about 3 short 5 min ones)l
All of you are talking percent. What is the power level of the battery at max charge? Battery showing charging to 100%, or any other percent, and having full charge are not the same thing.
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amzter said:
I have had the phone for about 3 months now. This is why I am saying its weird. The fact that it dies so quickly is another thing I got about 7 hours of moderate use with about 1hr 45 display time with 10 mins of music and about 10 texts and a few phone calls(about 3 short 5 min ones)l
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Could be a faulty battery. If you've only had it 3 months I would try to get the battery replaced if it has drain issues.
CaelanT said:
All of you are talking percent. What is the power level of the battery at max charge? Battery showing charging to 100%, or any other percent, and having full charge are not the same thing.
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You make a good point, I use Battery Monitor Widget Pro and keep an eye on usage time rather than battery level.
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All of you are talking percent. What is the power level of the battery at max charge? Battery showing charging to 100%, or any other percent, and having full charge are not the same thing.
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The battery never reaches 100 on the phone it will sit there at 96% and even the battery calibration app says the battery isnt at 4200mv (which apparently it should be) its at 4190. I never charge mid way I always let the phone get to about 15% then chuck it on charge.
You make a good point, I use Battery Monitor Widget Pro and keep an eye on usage time rather than battery level.
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Well I use the internal android one but I want to know whats draining it because today nothing was running, i had everything shut down and frozen that wasn't necessary.
You might need to use a 3rd party app to find the "rogue" app/process. Other than BMW, I also use System Panel to monitor it if I notice my usage time is depleting, it works well. You have to have monitoring activated and it's only available on the paid version, but you can use the free version to manually watch your apps/processes.
amzter said:
Well I use the internal android one but I want to know whats draining it because today nothing was running, i had everything shut down and frozen that wasn't necessary.
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live4nyy said:
You might need to use a 3rd party app to find the "rogue" app/process. Other than BMW, I also use System Panel to monitor it if I notice my usage time is depleting, it works well. You have to have monitoring activated and it's only available on the paid version, but you can use the free version to manually watch your apps/processes.
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Ok so I recalibrated the battery and got rid of the 96% freeze but now the drain is quicker than ever :S
have you tried wiping battery stats as well? Also, when you recalibrate, do you go through a couple "full" charge cycles? As in, do you allow the phone to fully discharge and then completely charge it plus at least an extra hour? I know that lithium batteries do not have the "memory effect" but I think it has more to do with software rather than the battery itself.
amzter said:
Ok so I recalibrated the battery and got rid of the 96% freeze but now the drain is quicker than ever :S
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live4nyy said:
have you tried wiping battery stats as well? Also, when you recalibrate, do you go through a couple "full" charge cycles? As in, do you allow the phone to fully discharge and then completely charge it plus at least an extra hour? I know that lithium batteries do not have the "memory effect" but I think it has more to do with software rather than the battery itself.
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yeah i do wipe battery stats but the mAh is not going to 4200 its stuck at 4186 nd wont go past 98%
Something else you could try that I've read around here.
1. Charge the battery for like 4 hours until it won't charge anymore.
2. Unplug the phone from the charger, turn it off, and then pull the battery out
3. Plug the phone back into the charger (Do not put the battery back in yet)
4. Wait for the phone to show an image of a battery with a question mark in it.
5. Put the battery back in.
6. Wait for it to recognize the battery, it will probably give a very low percentage like 5% or 10%.
7. Do not turn it on yet, let it charge for another hour or so.
8. Once you return, it will still probably show a low battery reading, ignore that and boot into recovery while it's still plugged in by long-pressing the power button and when you see the green led notification light press and hold volume down
9. Wipe battery stats and then reboot.
10. Wait for it to boot and then unplug it from the charger and check the battery reading.
I really don't understand what this does but I've read it has fixed the issue for some people.
amzter said:
yeah i do wipe battery stats but the mAh is not going to 4200 its stuck at 4186 nd wont go past 98%
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