Which one to choose? - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi everyone, I am new here. Generally, I am new to Android phones.
Shortly, I need new phone, and I've decided to buy Android based one. I have around 200 euro to spend for new mobile and I've found a brand new Motorola Defy+MB526. After a little research, it seems that this phone will suit me because of all resistance it has. Now, my real questions are:
Is 200e a lot for this phone(considering that it is a new phone, used 10days and has full package)?
Is there a possibility that Defy+ has bad Loudspeaker(I've read somewhere that there was 1 line of Defy mobile phones with bad loudspeakers, but couldn't find info was that a Defy+ or Defy, and I need to know this because if I am going to buy the phone, it is going to arrive by mail, so I have no possibility to test and try it before I pay for it)?
Is there going to be official/unofficial ICS for Defy+?
How good Defy+ is with rendering 720p videos? Recording and playing.
How good Defy+ is with 3d games?
So please, if you know any of these answers, write here, you will help me a lot
And yeah, what is the best android based phone in range of ~200euros
Thanks a lot,
~Stevan.

I'd like to ask moderators to remove this topic into Defy section please.
Sorry for me being dumb and not doing research before posting..

I think spending 200 euros on a used defy is waste of money
It won't be getting an official ics update
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should i get ace?

should i get the ace? i use to use xperia w8 but it's faulty and my dad wanted an exchange ...so is ace worth my money in terms of
-speed/power
-community
-camera
-price
or is there better alternatives ? i am thinking of xperia mini but can't decide between ace or mini please help
tohno said:
should i get the ace? i use to use xperia w8 but it's faulty and my dad wanted an exchange ...so is ace worth my money in terms of
-speed/power
-community
-camera
-price
or is there better alternatives ? i am thinking of xperia mini but can't decide between ace or mini please help
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Speed and Power: If you're gonna use it stock-like, its gonna let you down. After you at least upgrade it to Gingerbread, the phone is gonna suck. Its really good afterwards. Then it depends what custom rom or scrips you want on it to make it even better.
Community: As you can see, we're here to help. But PLEASE for the love of god, GOOGLE BEFORE MAKING THREADS. We've been having problems with new noobs posting threads on every little issue they face. But as I can see, you're not new to XDA so we'll be glad to welcome you here.
Camera: The camera is awesome. 5MP and shoots 640x480 DVD quality video.
Price: It depends where you're getting it from and who you're getting it from. But from the prices I've seen it at, I can tell you its worth the money.
Get the Ace and join us!
Not trying to sound impolite but there was a few threads just like this one, they are pretty up to date. To summarize; the answer is no. Why? Since there are better alternatives.
QNBT said:
Not trying to sound impolite but there was a few threads just like this one, they are pretty up to date. To summarize; the answer is no. Why? Since there are better alternatives.
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Well, he's asking about the Ace for a reason. Otherwise, I'd recommend him to get a Galaxy S2.
He should try Xperia Mini.. Not sure about the community support for it though
if you can wait you might can get ace plus
Well, for starters, xperia mini will get official ice cream sandwich, ace will not. For me, that alone would be the reason for not buying ace. Camera is not great on either of them, though the one on ace should be better.
I'd go for the mini, or another phone, but not ace. At least wait for the plus version, that is if you must have an ace.
whats your budget?
if its big then answer is no
I wouldn't recommend Ace.
First even though 800 MHz is enough for most applications, it's A6 processor.
Internal memory is too low. Unless you tweak your phone, you can't install much apps.
RAM is also low.
No... I'm regretting my purchase now... Look for something like HTC explorer.
tohno said:
should i get the ace? i use to use xperia w8 but it's faulty and my dad wanted an exchange ...so is ace worth my money in terms of
-speed/power
-community
-camera
-price
or is there better alternatives ? i am thinking of xperia mini but can't decide between ace or mini please help
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if u believe in above all and want mid range phone go for htc salsa because it have 800mhz+512 Mb ram and hve almost 1 day battery while regularlu use alot
wheras motrola defy also have same features and water resistable so u can make video while diving into water
both of camera quality is good
coming to galaxy ace because of its low RAM its not capable of multitasking but ya resale value is good but installing custom ROM speed is far good
it's actually a trade in for my old phone , my old w8 got spoiled alot of time in my hands..about 3 times in a month and my dad got pissed and asked for him to have a trade in ..my dad give him rm 200 while he give me a better phone ...still my budget is about RM700 pretty low ..i had a fren who have an ace but he says this phone is rubbish ..but the desgin is too darn nice its hard to pass..still i am planning to install roms on this phone if i have it ...it seems the review for tbhis phone not too good...
Its ok...The phone is outdated now though.If you have a budget,go with this one.If not,get an AcePlus or something familiar.My view,its okayish
kay..i will see
I don't recomend this phone. It never get official CyanogenMod 7,9 and official MIUI. Also it's probably never get official ICS update.
Look for something with better dovelopment background.
Get yourself a motorola defy if you like modding and all with full support...or else if you want an update of ICS officialy and hd video recording go for the Xperia Mini, all though its a ladies phone
ronhoover88 said:
Get yourself a motorola defy if you like modding and all with full support...or else if you want an update of ICS officialy and hd video recording go for the Xperia Mini, all though its a ladies phone
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Agreed..That few extra bucks is really worth it.Official MIUI and CyanogenMod support along with it being dust,water and...scratch proof?I forgot
No don't get an ace. It will be your worst nightmare since it is the worst phone with virtually no Samsung or xda developer support. And we do not want another f*** noob.
lolol okay no ace now...defy cost RM1xxx nearly...my dad wont allow it =(
sergeantgeneral said:
No don't get an ace. It will be your worst nightmare since it is the worst phone with virtually no Samsung or xda developer support. And we do not want another f*** noob.
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Sincerely... I don't think that's they way you should reply...!
EVEN YOU WERE A F*** NOOB!

We have no choice but to upgrade

majority of new android apps are not compatible to our phones now...sad to say ...we can't change that...after a year of being such an awesome phone, now it's slowly dying...we have already pushed our o1's performance to it's limit, a bunch of tweaks can never change the raw performance..I learned myself a lesson to never buy a low end phone if you're going to stick to it for more than a year because it always gets unsupported and obsolete...jelly beans and future android versions might be ported but we can never get the "playable", "enjoyable" and "Supercalifragilisticexpialidociousable"...that's the honest truth, most tweaks now are now implemented to cm7 itself, if you actually add and add more tweaks, be warned it will slow down your phone, the best thing is actually just to stick with the best kernel and stock cm7 rom that's all i can say..
you might ignore this and might not believe me but that's the whole truth, from stock to mik's cm7 to adfad666's cm7.2, i haven't receive any REAL "faster", quicker and lightning speediest rom...same old performance in games, same old performance in ui, same old performance in everything...i have to actually say that the STOCK rom WILL ALWAYS be the MOST STABLE rom you'll get...but might be a little slower because of some limitations and bloatware...
You can only push the device so far,honestly tweaks only work in small pecentages
Sent from my LG-P500 using xda premium
i was really disappointed when i was waiting for temple run game for how many months, all i got is incompatiblityness and then some loyal o1 user will say, somebody will port it don't worry!...omg people someday will actually lost trust on you cuz you ask for everything and not to do it by yourselves...and yeah you may expect instagram MIGHT be not compatible with our phones...after waiting for how many months .____. and Angry Birds Space might be the last OFFICIAL angry birds game for our phone because of degrading performance..
tbh I only love cm7 because of it's themes...
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first we get incompatibility from resolution and now from the cpu and then Android version....it's getting worst actually...and actually when i was searching for some changes on cm7.2 on github, the cm team actually threw almost ALL build.prop and init.d scripts and tweak because they don't think that it's even worth it to be tweaked..and only a waste of space..and will only just make CM7 unstable and less functional...
trettet said:
tbh I only love cm7 because of it's themes...
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first we get incompatibility from resolution and now from the cpu and then Android version....it's getting worst actually...and actually when i was searching for some changes on cm7.2 on github, the cm team actually threw almost ALL build.prop and init.d scripts and tweak because they don't think that it's even worth it to be tweaked..and only a waste of space..and will only just make CM7 unstable and less functional...
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Remember, you're using an entry level android.
Its now time to upgrade, I agree
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Don't worry, temple run will support ARMV6 officially! It's only a matter of time.
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@trettet that depends...not everyone can afford to buy a new phone.For example I think I'll stick with my o1 for another year.I am not in loved with this phone and if I had more money I would have bought an Galaxy Nexus.I like it and it offered more than I expected.Not even now,after almost one year since i've bought it I'm not bored of it.I can always find new apps,games,try new Roms,themes and all this stuff.So in conclusion...who can afford buy a high end phone,who can't .... stick with o1.
I agree that it's time to upgrade and that this is a low performance phone, but what annoys me it's that seems that you are mad about a game that not runs on this phone, I really don't understand why you kids use this phone to play hq games or say "Im a hardcore gamer on my p500" that's ridiculous, this was never a phone for games, this device is just for surfing the net or use social apps, if you wanted to play games on a device on this range of price you should buy an iPod touch 4g
Marius Cristian said:
@trettet that depends...not everyone can afford to buy a new phone.For example I think I'll stick with my o1 for another year.I am not in loved with this phone and if I had more money I would have bought an Galaxy Nexus.I like it and it offered more than I expected.Not even now,after almost one year since i've bought it I'm not bored of it.I can always find new apps,games,try new Roms,themes and all this stuff.So in conclusion...who can afford buy a high end phone,who can't .... stick with o1.
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Truly said! Not everyone can get a new, high-end phone , with latest HW upgrades!! At least due to age limitations, I.e, the high-school students like me. I always come to know everyday about a new phone, again with some new technology and much better HW!! At first look-I say "I am gonna get it !!!!!! "But unfortunately I can't do so! (Father/mother restrictions Y'know!!)
@trettet, You are right ! You can move to other phone, if you are allowed to do so by you father/mother/uncle/aunty blah blah!!
This is the right time to switch, before it gets more outdated............
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i have to actually say that the STOCK rom WILL ALWAYS be the MOST STABLE rom you'll get...
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Do you really mean it??? or just a rush of sentiments
like others said not everyone can afford a new phone. but i dont think it is smart to buy a phone now because everything you will get is a faster cpu and bigger screen. so is it worth to spend 200€ or more for that? i tryed my friends sgs2 and i was not impressed at all. it is like o1 with bigger screen. the only difference noticable was by playing games and if i want to do that i would rather buy xbox. and after all we will also get a taste of ics. i think in a year time smartphones will change drasticly and it will really pay out to buy a new one so i will stick with o1 for another year. but this is only my oppinion .
I agree with Roq, this phone was not meant to play many games...if you want a gaming phone,get an xperia x10 or any xperia phone..personally I think games are a waste of space and resources...how cool would it be to have a phone with interchangeable hardware (could you imagine swapping ram like you would with a desktop PC). ANDROID is rising, and I'm pretty sure microcomputers with android OS will soon be in everything from medical equipment to cellular devices...tweaks,just waste space...I obviously see no difference in speed or performance because at the end of the day the phone only performs as fast as the processor allows it to. I will,however say that some tweaks do increase productivity and performance but only by a small margin..all these new roms coming out are pretty much all themed roms with 50 tweaks and achep ics cm7 theme and custom frameworks and ssystemui's...makes me wish I had a good computer. I miss developing challenges and I really wish I could dive into cm9 and ics developing, I worked alot with htc sense ui for g1 but back than it was still amend scripting and amonra was the choosen choice of custom recoveries and also when you had to actually read the steps in order to gain root. There was none of this superoneclick or gingerbreak stuff..you had to know adb and terminal emulator commands
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this not just about games...it's about ALL kinds of apps: launchers, games, browsers, fun apps and etc...I can mention upto hundreds of apps that aren't compatible and NOT JUST games
logic?
i also agree with roque ...if you want to play games, go buy a PSP
if you want to install more and more apps use a PC it has more multimedia capabilities to make you happy.
optimus one already gave us enough entertainment thanks to the wonderful and intellegent devs who diligently worked for this phone , if still you're not satisfied and have no choice go buy a new one yourself, why whine? this phone is still useful for calling and texting ..
still millions of O1 users love their phone..
yeah but they are too costly, any one suggest me a android device with ics and with a low price range?
abhi29 said:
yeah but they are too costly, any one suggest me a android device with ics and with a low price range?
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what is the point to buy a low price android device that will barely be able to handle ics? jelly bean will be soon out and you will have to buy another phone in few months?
Yep.time is coming but let push the time away as far as possible.
Until requirement of android meeting to O1.we can still hope.
Also this is entry level phone as this is my first mobile its not a big deal.also what if performance not increasing but new settings are coming and look is updating.
So atleast i can stick to these phone til 2 more years :O
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Agreed with the topic starter. We need to upgrade. Even ourselves. Everything changes. We have to cope with the new ways and new things. We ca't even push ourselves to a new place with just knowing and using the old ways.
Regarding to our beloved O1. I think this is the best and the only phone that an entry android user must get. In terms of price per performance it is termed as a "good buy". The easiest and the simpliest way to learn how to tweak or customize your android. Lot of developers and participant in every aspect, ROM, kernel, apps etc etc. This phone is the "stepping stone" of modding and gaining one step ahead of normal android users. I'm really lucky i choose this phone as my first android phone. Now it's easier to adjust to another android phone. Samsung, HTC, Google etc.
Everything has to end. Nothing last forever. ( no 3310 jokes please LOL). We definitely have to adjust and leave our beloved O1. But we never must forget at what, who, when and where we learn how to become "not just your average android user".
trettet said:
majority of new android apps are not compatible to our phones now...sad to say ...we can't change that...after a year of being such an awesome phone, now it's slowly dying...we have already pushed our o1's performance to it's limit, a bunch of tweaks can never change the raw performance..I learned myself a lesson to never buy a low end phone if you're going to stick to it for more than a year because it always gets unsupported and obsolete...jelly beans and future android versions might be ported but we can never get the "playable", "enjoyable" and "Supercalifragilisticexpialidociousable"...that's the honest truth, most tweaks now are now implemented to cm7 itself, if you actually add and add more tweaks, be warned it will slow down your phone, the best thing is actually just to stick with the best kernel and stock cm7 rom that's all i can say..
you might ignore this and might not believe me but that's the whole truth, from stock to mik's cm7 to adfad666's cm7.2, i haven't receive any REAL "faster", quicker and lightning speediest rom...same old performance in games, same old performance in ui, same old performance in everything...i have to actually say that the STOCK rom WILL ALWAYS be the MOST STABLE rom you'll get...but might be a little slower because of some limitations and bloatware...
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Now u can enjoy Temple Run on our beloved O1 here it is and it is working fine i already tested it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1566766
Dnt forget to press thanks if u think it is helpful post to u
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It's all about the uses for your phone. The biggest game I play is Fruit Ninja, but mostly Mahjong. Otherwise I use this as business phone, calender, news reader. Given those uses, this phone will last me another year or more easily.
I like this phone because of its size. I don't want a big honkin phone with huge ass screen. That is what my laptop is for.
I will be sad when this sucker actually dies and I have to get a new phone. I really don't care about the latest games. I have never had a problem finding launchers and productivity apps for O1.
C'est la vie, specially with technology. Really no use crying about it. This reminds me of people complaining their netbook from 2 years ago won't play games. Yup, was never really meant to...

Alcatel OT-995 a.k.a Ultra or Sapphire HD

Just posting this if there's some custom rom development for this specific phone.
Thanks
edit: I would like to thank user aleksandar.1 for the pm.
here it goes:
aleksandar.1 said:
Hi,
djtreo, i have a request to you...
You started the thread for Alcatel 995 and the first post is yours, can u edit it and add two links to it, please?
the links are :
1. Link to all roms and stuff for the 995 http://goo.gl/SDOQR
2. Rom comparison matrix http://goo.gl/532ZP
Hope this is not to much to ask from u,
Thanks in advance,
Aleksandar
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Thanks again aleks!
Haven't come across any yet.
+1
This is really a great device. Amazing price-quality ratio. I just bought one as a second phone and I'm very happy with it.
Performance is comparable to Samsung Galaxy S+ but with a nice 4.3 screen.
And Alcatel has promised an ICS update so fingers crossed.
@ whigga: yeah, it's really a great device with such cheap price. it's a steal!
hopefully devs can look into this phone. it's something like LG Optimus X2 of some sort.
Available here now for $280
I really like the 4.3" over my 4.1" phones,
Strange they made no 850MHz 3G units for countries that have the stronger frequency like Australia, USA, Thailand, China etc... for those that dont know 850MHz can penetrate into buildings to allow better indoor reception.
Just like to bump this thread. Any update of development?
Heey guys!
I just bought this phone 2 days ago, after my Galaxy Gio died 1,5 week ago.
I'm very happy to hear there are more satisfied users of the OT-995 who want a custom rom and XDA thread
Let's hope a good developer will also get this beautifull device!
By the way: does someone know a good way to root the Alcatel OT-995?
@ markvann: that remains the question. I still got an unrooted OT-995. tried those rooting procs, nothing works atm.
djtreo said:
@ markvann: that remains the question. I still got an unrooted OT-995. tried those rooting procs, nthing works atm.
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same here still looking for a working way...
does anybody kno when te update to ics will be avaible?
really looking forward to that!
I would ask the people who bought this device if in fact ram is 512 mb ? and not like xperia neo v which is 380 mb
ps.+1 for development of this device
thank you
petalotis said:
I would ask the people who bought this device if in fact ram is 512 mb ? and not like xperia neo v which is 380 mb
ps.+1 for development of this device
thank you
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Hello Petalotis!
I just looked, and it seems there is not 512mb ram. It's exactly the same as it is with Xperia Neo V I guess, because my telephone says there's something like 370 mb ram. Normally I'm a heavy device user (except for my last one, the Galaxy Gio), but I have to say this smartphone can handle all the apps I want. I'm really happy with it, and on Quadrant Standard benchmark it even scores better than Galaxy Nexus (and on Antutu they have around the same amount of points). So I hope you don't get fooled by the 'not-so-high' amount of ram, and that you can participate in searching for OT-995 root methodes and ROMs!
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I want to buy a new Android phone and this one catch my attention, i have a ZTE Blade and want to upgrade .
The launch of this phone in my country (Portugal) will be in 7 of May with the name of "Optimus Madrid" and the price maybe would be €229,90, i was searching here if anyone begun to developing custom roms to him, will be an asset.
+1 for development of this device
also I would ask the people who bought this device if they try to connect mouse or keyboard in mini usb gate ?
already seen a guide to do this in galaxy s (in this forum). Hub must accept external power because there isnt enough power in mini usb
is it possible that this works ? can you try to connect keyboard and mouse in hub or a usb flash
i would appreciate that
thank you very much
I also have the alcatel ot-995.
I''ve tried things like superonclick and z4root.
Is there any possible way to root my phone or do I just have to wait for a new rooting way.
Hello! I just bought is phone people , has as nice price!!!
And I hope someone considering spend some time to make the root possible!!
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Just like to bump on this thread again.
To Devs: Hopefully someone out there who has the heart to develop a ROM for this nice phone would be love by all who bought this amazing price-to-performance phone.
Help
Hello ppl!
Please, some wone knows can make video calls using a 3g network wiht this device (OT 995)? In my case, i have a portuguese network (optimus)
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vladmir said:
Hello ppl!
Please, some wone knows can make video calls using a 3g network wiht this device (OT 995)? In my case, i have a portuguese network (optimus)
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This phone is perfectly capable of making 3g video calls. At least it works in Holland, where I live. Do realize that this functionality also depends on your network provider if they allow it.
whigga said:
This phone is perfectly capable of making 3g video calls. At least it works in Holland, where I live. Do realize that this functionality also depends on your network provider if they allow it.[/QUOT]
I have a plan that includes for free the video calss!!!! i tink is a bad police from the network providers!!!
I have the phone and i'm please... only cost me 179€!!! I realy hope someone find away do a root and make possible news firmwares!
the software install in the phone are quiat poor, don´t match the hardware!!!
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the software install in the phone are quiat poor, don´t match the hardware!!!
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Yeah, you're right! Software implementation is defenitely not as good as the hardware should allow it to be. Processor and ram are more than capable, but still there is lag where similar speced phones have none. Hopefully the promised ICS upgrade will fix this or otherwise hoping for some good 'ol custom rom development.
OT995 Potentials
I'm a freak of speed for low cost and the alcatel OT995 will definetly be
my next one!
Hopefully does developers see the potentials of this low budget device,
and make a masterpiece ready to challenge with high-end non-price-quality
phones!
I keep fingers crossed, once a project gets started, I buy one !

should i buy this phone ? !!

hello guys , right now i'm a htc wildfire s owner and i'm looking to replace it with a new android device ( better hardware ) and iam very confused between 2 devices the Motorola Atrix 4g and the Sony Xperia Sola but i kinda like the Atrix because of this huge forum there is alot of Roms and stuff but i wanted u Atrix owners to help me explain some points
- i read here on xda that all the new Atrix devices well not be unlocked link here sooo is that true ?
- if i bought this device i think i'll unlock it after a couple weeks and if i wanted to know what isn't exactly working in the CM9 rom cuz it's my favorite and does toggling bluetooth and wifi force restart the device ( ohhh god i sufferd this issue with my wfs ) and does the HDMI port work with ICS based roms ? !!
- is there a webtop for ics roms ?
- in worst cases is CM7 fully working ? !! ( stable ) cuz i can't imagine my self stuck with the orginal rom
that's it for now, thank u guys in advance hope to to join u soon
The Sola and Atrix are both damn good phones, The Sola looks nice, has a good(similar to i9100)chipset, better camera, better screen and the Atrix has more functionality (TegraZone, webtop, docks, 1gb ram etc)
The Atrix also has a lot more development going on at the moment, compared to the Sola and the latest CM7.2 build runs perfectly on the Atrix.
But it's up to you.
Edit( whether it is "un-lockable" depends on where you buy it from, yes the newer ones aren't, but they still have the initial batches floating around)
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The Sola and Atrix are both damn good phones, The Sola looks nice, has a good(similar to i9100)chipset, better camera, better screen and the Atrix has more functionality (TegraZone, webtop, docks, 1gb ram etc)
The Atrix also has a lot more development going on at the moment, compared to the Sola and the latest CM7.2 build runs perfectly on the Atrix.
But it's up to you.
Edit( whether it is "un-lockable" depends on where you buy it from, yes the newer ones aren't, but they still have the initial batches floating around)
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well thank's to you mate , but are u sure the sola has a better screen compared to the atrix ( the atrix has a higher ppi and res !! ) and u said it's wether unlockable or not depeinding on where i buy i don't relly get what u mean but i'll be buying it from egypt and not from a specific carrier soo it's not locked for a certain carrier and can u please provide me with any information about what's not working in the cm9 build and most important the HDMI out ....
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well thank's to you mate , but are u sure the sola has a better screen compared to the atrix ( the atrix has a higher ppi and res !! )
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Resolution of the screen is really nice but for me personally a little too high for a 4" screen.
But the main problem is the colours it produces. Blacks aren't completely black they have a slight brownish greyish look to them. The other colours in general look washed out. Doesn't bother me too much but when comparing to other phones the difference in colours is instantly noticeable.
The atrix hardware is nice. Will run anything you throw at it. We have a very nice stable cm7.2 rom
If I were you I would wait a little while longer to see if Motorola release official ICS for the atrix before buying one unless you don't mind sticking with gingerbread.
Sent from my MB860 using xda app-developers app
Atrix is a very solid phone, and I would take it over the Sola.
You have GB/CM7 for now, and CM7 is very stable. ICS coming sometime in QTR 3...
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iximedaixi said:
well thank's to you mate , but are u sure the sola has a better screen compared to the atrix ( the atrix has a higher ppi and res !! ) and u said it's wether unlockable or not depeinding on where i buy i don't relly get what u mean but i'll be buying it from egypt and not from a specific carrier soo it's not locked for a certain carrier and can u please provide me with any information about what's not working in the cm9 build and most important the HDMI out ....
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Well the screen is also smaller on the sola, and it has a full set of sub pixels as well as the bravia engine.
The Atrix has a pentile matrix, so even though there is more pixel density, the pentile matrix makes individual pixels more visible.
Well since you're buying in egypt, there probably is a chance your local store has the initial-release stock of the atrix. But there is no garuntee, I bought a second atrix (for a friend), here in New Zealand a few weeks ago and it was unlockable,
I personally haven't tried ICS or JB because im more interested in a working phone (LOL), I don't like having to toy around with things that only work half the time and/or not at all, thats why I try to stay away from the roms until they're stable.....But still, support the developers for their hard work, even if you aren't using their roms just yet (they all look promising).
there are a lot of things not working in the CM9/CM10 roms, that even the devs can't list them all, and a lot of functionality is software-based because there is no driver support for hardware until next month or so, when we get the official ICS from Moto.
The phone works great on CM7 if you're willing to buy it now.
Prefer to buy Galaxy Nexus, S2, Notes, etc... for most update ROM is already there.
if my Atirx will be broken, I Will buy another Atrix. This is one of the greates devices, fingerprint lock, webtop, and many more Especialy Tegra2 and 1GB RAM
maggedo said:
Prefer to buy Galaxy Nexus, S2, Notes, etc... for most update ROM is already there.
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okay your totally right the Galaxy nexus is a great phone but comparing the prices here where is live the atrix sells for 2000 EGP and the nexus for 3500 EGP so there is a huge difference that i can't afford right now and there is also a thing that i don't like about all the nexuses ( except the nexus one ) which is there is no SD Card ..... i can't really imagine my life without an SD Card
I'm considering the same 2 phones. Which phone did you buy, the Xperia Sola or the Atrix?
Atrix
the Atrix is still one of the best phones I have ever owned, and the accessories are great and probably much cheaper now
Like people have said before, cm7 works perfectly. But there is not gonna be any ics for this phone from motorola. The devs are working on jellybean right now. Epinter's cm10 is pretty much a daily driver with hw acceleration issues because of no drivers for kernel. Apart from that its a great rom.
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Like people have said before, cm7 works perfectly. But there is not gonna be any ics for this phone from motorola. The devs are working on jellybean right now. Epinter's cm10 is pretty much a daily driver with hw acceleration issues because of no drivers for kernel. Apart from that its a great rom.
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Problem is that there will never be any official ICS from Motorola, and unless the Olympus ICS/JB kernel port is successful, it's likely there will never be any third party HW acceleration either. And yes, there is talk of Motorola releasing the code for the unfinished ICS kernel, but talk is one thing, but I wouldn't bet the farm on seeing it happen any more than I'd bet on a dead horse winning the Kentucky Derby.
Sure the device itself isn't bad, but the only support you will get for the device is dependent on a dwindling community. Honestly, if I knew then what I know now, I wouldn't have just gotten something different, I would have ran away from the thing screaming like a little girl.

Advice request about Sony Xperia Tipo (ST21i, ST21a)

Hi all!
First of all I wish to thanks in advance for any of you who may stop by, and provide some tips, experience
regarding the next matter, advice request:
My context is that I am completely noob regarding choosing android phone.
I want to get my first one, but a low budget, and I thought about Sony Xperia Tipo, cause it uses Android ICS,
and its hardware specs are some better than comparing to others of similar budget as LG Optimus L3, Samsung Galaxy Mini
( phonearena.com/phones/compare/LG-Optimus-L3,Samsung-GALAXY-mini,Sony-Xperia-tipo/phones/6941,5147,7151 )
I already discarded going for Vodafone Smart II, cause after reading its thread in XDA (around 30 pages), despite it was posible
to be rooted at first, in 1 month the new versions have been capped by cel companies (the recovery, the fastboot etc), at least for Spain, Portugal versions, therefore the customization is getting quite impossible, or very random depending the version, the cel company, ...
I think the main problem it is that this Xperia Tipo has been released quite very recently,
and after been searching through forum about info for rooting the Xperia Tipo, I can't find any info about it :S.
So my 2 questions are:
- it is expected that Xperia Tipo will be rooted in a near future ( and therefore customizable with
ROMs ...) ?
- Taking in count any answer to this question, would you suggest to go for it,
or by other hand go for Samsung Galaxy Mini (despite it has worse HW, Android GingerBread,
BUT it has quite plenty support for rooting and flashing with custom ROMs) ?
Again thanks in advance for any advice, and excuse the long post! )
Cheers!
ive used this phone after recomending it for someone else. Its a great cheap ICS phone dont expect it to be really fast or to play excellant games but it is really good for the price under £100!!!. would i recomend it to someone else after using it YES!!!! just remember to clear the apps your not using from the RAM by pressing the Home key and holding it and swiping it to close it so it doesnt get laggy.
as for root im not a dev but im safley sure it will be rooted in the future as its got a SD card slot so its easier to install CWM recovery etc.
BUT it is new out and dont expect it to happen any time soon i have the Xperia U and thats been out ages now and i still dont have root it just takes time for the devs to get the phones and then to start work on them.
hope it helped
djpigz said:
ive used this phone after recomending it for someone else. Its a great cheap ICS phone dont expect it to be really fast or to play excellant games but it is really good for the price under £100!!!. would i recomend it to someone else after using it YES!!!! just remember to clear the apps your not using from the RAM by pressing the Home key and holding it and swiping it to close it so it doesnt get laggy.
as for root im not a dev but im safley sure it will be rooted in the future as its got a SD card slot so its easier to install CWM recovery etc.
BUT it is new out and dont expect it to happen any time soon i have the Xperia U and thats been out ages now and i still dont have root it just takes time for the devs to get the phones and then to start work on them.
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Thanks for the tip!
Being cheap phone is ok, in fact that is what I seek for, a low budget phone as a start point, looking for customization.
Well, I could get that Xperia Tipo for £48, while the Samsung Galaxy Mini would cost £32. HW (CPU, inbuilt mem, display res) difference and phone release date diff, explain the price difference, hehe.
I was tempted to get Vodafone Smart II (for £48, I think), but atfer reading this whole thread forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1722811 , I found that it is a lottery, if I could get it rooted or not :S
My main doubt is if going for Samsung Galaxy Mini cause its great support in matters of rooting and customization, or expect that Xperia Tipo will get some nice support here in XDA, in the future ...
A third choice could be LG Optimus L3 which has worse display res, same price as Xperia Tipo, and it has some support here at forum for rooting and ROMs.
Regarding your Xperia U, I think there is quite nice support in this site, forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1728 , so you mention you still having probs to root it ?
I have just returned my Tipo today due to very poor reception. If you just want a phone to make calls and send texts then it should be more than adequate but if you are going to use it for browsing or games I would find something with a stronger processor as it can be very laggy after using it a while - even in menus. However the touchscreen is responsive and the display should be OK for making calls and texting but I found it very washed out when viewing pics etc. On my particular handset I could hear electrical interference through the headphones but this could be related to my reception fault I guess. If you can I advise you try it out before making a decision - if ur in the UK o2 shops usually have all there the phones on display switched on. If music is important to you the sound quality is very budget. Also the camera has no flash or autofocus. Tbh if it wasn't for the Sony xperia branding on the front I would have though this was a cheap chinese no-name handset as Sony really have cut costs on this one.
I can't comment on the Samsung but I have read bad things about the lg. Have you considered the Motosmart from Motorola. It has a similar spec to the tipo but at least the camera has a flash and its root able (running gingerbread)
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I bought this phone a week ago. It's very nice for the price!. It isn't laggy, It has plenty of ram. Obviously it isn't so fast as would be needed for a device to play games,and doesn't have a big screen (or an hires one) if you have to surf the web a lot, but handles with no problems at all divx streaming from my pc, using mx-player. It's clearly better than vodafone smart_II and my device hasn't reception problems at all. The battery (this is a good point in my opinion) it's 1500mah just better than the usual 1200mah used in low-end devices
The camera can make decent photos but hasn't flash or aufocus at all & no front camera just like all the cheap phones.
BTW i think it's one of the best ICS devices avaiable here in Italy for about 150€.
I tried samsung galaxy mini too and this experia is a lot better in my opninion.
I have been using the mobile for more than a month... It's perfect .. Go for it... It is the best in the range... I do use it a lot and it has held up against everything... Custom ROM will be available veeeeeeeeeeeery soon... It is already rooted...
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[help] firmware flash
my boot loader is unlocked and my device is stuck at boot with single vibration .
i need to install firmware but its get aborted everytime with an error
ERROR - ERR_SEVERITY="MAJOR";ERR_CODE="0019";ERR_DYNAMIC=" SIN header verification failed";
please help

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