Camera 'hole' - Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE

Anyone notice the red/black camera fitting on the removable cover is just a hole, not a protective lens?
That meens dirt/sand/etc will collect/scratch direct to camera on internal board.
Anybody have (effective) ideas how to protect the cameras lens without seriously affecting photo quality?
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I assume that was thought about in design and was left out so a second lens doesn't collect dirt and finger prints to distort images. I'd bet the glass covering it is pretty tough. This phone is very well designed.
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Kcarpenter said:
I assume that was thought about in design and was left out so a second lens doesn't collect dirt and finger prints to distort images. I'd bet the glass covering it is pretty tough. This phone is very well designed.
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KaptainRandom said:
Anyone notice the red/black camera fitting on the removable cover is just a hole, not a protective lens?
That meens dirt/sand/etc will collect/scratch direct to camera on internal board.
Anybody have (effective) ideas how to protect the cameras lens without seriously affecting photo quality?
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I have a few ideas... Keep it out of dirt... Wash your clothes properly so that you don't have sand and dirt in your pockets when you put your phone in it... Get a new phone.

eXplicit815 said:
I have a few ideas... Keep it out of dirt... Wash your clothes properly so that you don't have sand and dirt in your pockets when you put your phone in it... Get a new phone.
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nice response... i too am a bit concerned that LINT or DUST will collect there...hopefully you'll remember to wipe it out with a cloth or something every so often before you end up taking blurry photos because of it.

just clean it out gently once a week.

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I have a few ideas... Keep it out of dirt... Wash your clothes properly so that you don't have sand and dirt in your pockets when you put your phone in it... Get a new phone.
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Why is there always a smart ass person with smart ass remarks?
If you actually knew a thing or two about lenses, you'd know that this is actually a big deal. Just because "zomg htc did zo gud it haz 2 b da best!" doesn't mean dust particles can't get in.
Some expensive camera lenses that are in the thousands of dollars, which are also "built very good", even get dust in 'em and it creates a huge problem.

eXplicit815 said:
I have a few ideas... Keep it out of dirt... Wash your clothes properly so that you don't have sand and dirt in your pockets when you put your phone in it... Get a new phone.
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lolol

arozer said:
Why is there always a smart ass person with smart ass remarks?
If you actually knew a thing or two about lenses, you'd know that this is actually a big deal. Just because "zomg htc did zo gud it haz 2 b da best!" doesn't mean dust particles can't get in.
Some expensive camera lenses that are in the thousands of dollars, which are also "built very good", even get dust in 'em and it creates a huge problem.
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Which is why when I buy my DSLR lenses and cameras, I always get the protection plan for them so I get them cleaned once a year.
It's the same thing with phones. This phone is solid. There's always gotta be these threads of nitpicking. Seriously, if it's a big deal, you'll do a few things to prevent it. Clearly, it's part of the design. Is HTC gonna collect ALL of the EVO 4G LTEs in circulation, and fix this issue? No. Is there a way to fix it? Maybe. When you figure that out, then create a thread with [FIX] in the title.
This phone has literally been in the hands of the mainstream public (outside of pre-orders) for 5 days...

A second lens would lower the picture quality in my opinion, cameras have enough lens distortion without adding a second lens to cover the first. Besides, you can easily pull of the cover and gently clean around the lens

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A second lens would lower the picture quality in my opinion, cameras have enough lens distortion without adding a second lens to cover the first. Besides, you can easily pull of the cover and gently clean around the lens
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There are generally more pieces of glass than two... More like 19 groups in some lenses.
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I consider this a feature rather than a bug. I was excited HTC finally got it right when it comes to protecting the camera. Up til now, all HTC devices had a lens "cover" that protruded from the back surface and was therefore prone to scratching and smudging. On my HTC diamond I went so far as to drill a hole in the rear cover/battery door right over the actual lens so that pics would be crisper without being shot through a smoked/shaded plastic lens "cover". It worked beautifully and is in principle, the same they have done with the Evo LTE.
I am impressed. :thumbup:
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yes im aware but when i say second lens im referring to the plain piece of glass ive seen on cheapo cameras and cellphones, they are put their to protect the lens and it usually hurts more then help

Seems like a risky trade off
I just got this phone last night. I was shocked to see that the camera element was just sitting under a hole in a piece of plastic.
I've rocked the HTC Desire for the past two years. I do like that the front-most optical element of the Evo 4G LTE camera is recessed. For setting on tables, etc, this is a great design choice.
However... a thin cover glass on the outside of the cover can easily be wiped clean. In the extreme case, that little window can theoretically be easily popped out and replaced (I did pop mine out on the Desire, but just put it back in rather than replace).
Worried about scratches? Hell, it could have been made of Gorilla Glass like the whole front of the phone!
A gaping hole is just an invitation for all kinds of crap to build up in there. Already this morning, after < 12 hrs, mine camera has a bunch of lint and other debris on it. And now it's much more difficult for servicing (wiping).
I strongly question the advisability of just wiping anything that is bonded directly to the camera component. Did anyone read that as advice from HTC? Otherwise, I would tend to think that wiping could remove anti-glare or other optical coatings.

Dust is the only thing that will really get in there and that can be cleaned off easily. Unless you carry your phone with pebbles in your pocket or lay it on a surface with protruding nails or something.

Maybe it's for physical calibration of the micro-servo motor that's attached to the lens.

So on the original Evo, people complained because when you sat the phone down, the glass was the lowest point and touched the tabletop.
Now they've fixed that, and - more complaints. Ya can't win.
I just figure that pocket lint's all I have to worry about, and I'll take the can of dust-off to it once in a while.
I greatly prefer this way to the original Evo way.

i like this feature. sure something can get in there but without anything to actually rub the sand and such onto the lense i can't see this being an issue. the way i clean it (since the back is borderline impossible to get off on my evo) i just take a compressed air can every week or so and blow it into the hole.

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camera lens cover

Why don't most phones come with a camera lens cover slider such as like this
http://blog.se-nse.net/sony-ericsson-announces-the-c901-for-emerging-markets/
so people don't have to do this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEhaVmyZaBw
If anyone has a good solution for lens protection I really appreciate it...it always gets dusty, scratched overtime etc...
seansk said:
Why don't most phones come with a camera lens cover slider such as like this
http://blog.se-nse.net/sony-ericsson-announces-the-c901-for-emerging-markets/
so people don't have to do this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEhaVmyZaBw
If anyone has a good solution for lens protection I really appreciate it...it always gets dusty, scratched overtime etc...
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my nokia had it like the sonny you showed and still gets dusty. I think they should make the lens of some kind of material that doesnt get dust to stick. I remember the iphone 4 lens were uncovered and never got dusty, might just be the lens material..
Felinos11 said:
my nokia had it like the sonny you showed and still gets dusty. I think they should make the lens of some kind of material that doesnt get dust to stick. I remember the iphone 4 lens were uncovered and never got dusty, might just be the lens material..
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dust i can live with, I'll wipe it...scratches I can't!!! i might just buy a generic cheap screen cover and try to cut it out, but it'll be a hard task to do a good job!!! I'm also afraid its going to affect the picture and camera quality with a cover like that on.
seansk said:
dust i can live with, I'll wipe it...scratches I can't!!! i might just buy a generic cheap screen cover and try to cut it out, but it'll be a hard task to do a good job!!! I'm also afraid its going to affect the picture and camera quality with a cover like that on.
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Get a case then i suggest. like the trident kraken one, nothing will touch your camera. the cheap screen protector isnt a bad idea either
stratax said:
Get a case then i suggest. like the trident kraken one, nothing will touch your camera. the cheap screen protector isnt a bad idea either
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Ya have a case which is actually raised where the camera is so it helps protect it, but lets say you put it in you pocket with keys (I try to never do that) Now what??? the camera is still out in the open, the backplate doesn't protect it like some other phones...my old nexus ones backplate covered the camera with an extra glass, so if it got scratched you could just replace the backplate...this phone there's nothing to protect it...this is a big deal for me as I am an avid picture taker.
Here's what I do. Buy a roll of high quality 3m clear tape like for packing. Cut out just enough to fit over the camera. And I don't mean a small circle I cut to fit the shape of the silver part. Here's a hint: don't touch the sticky part youre applying with your figertips. Firmly apply and as your doing so try to stretch it a bit. For quick snaps you won't even know its there. Otherwise peel back shoot re apply.
Yeah cheesy but it works great.
I'm digging my amaze....
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freakboy13 said:
Here's what I do. Buy a roll of high quality 3m clear tape like for packing. Cut out just enough to fit over the camera. And I don't mean a small circle I cut to fit the shape of the silver part. Here's a hint: don't touch the sticky part youre applying with your figertips. Firmly apply and as your doing so try to stretch it a bit. For quick snaps you won't even know its there. Otherwise peel back shoot re apply.
Yeah cheesy but it works great.
I'm digging my amaze....
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sounds like a good idea but what happens when you have to take it off (for some reason) and the glass peice goes with it xD haha. im still with the screen protector even though itd make it less quality. the Kracken case would protect it, its a tank
stratax said:
sounds like a good idea but what happens when you have to take it off (for some reason) and the glass peice goes with it xD haha. im still with the screen protector even though itd make it less quality. the Kracken case would protect it, its a tank
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yet another sonyericsson phone with good camera cover
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VXPxko79aI&feature=related
...a lot sonyericsson phones come with that kind of cover, with LED flash PLUS xenon flash, learn HTC, learn. With such high quality camera's now...I would assume that xenon flash and led flash (for flashlight purposes perhaps or video recording) would be a norm. I would also assume a sliding cover would also be a norm...I mean face it our camera takes better pics than many point and shoot camera's out there, and those aall have lenses that have either covers or retract...If HTC is going to advertise this as their "phone geared toward camera" they should have included such things in my opinion, then again there's alway cost, i would probably end up being around 900 bucks unsubsidized...which if you think about it is good, if you have an amazing point and shoot camera and an amazing phone all in one..
stratax said:
sounds like a good idea but what happens when you have to take it off (for some reason) and the glass peice goes with it xD haha. im still with the screen protector even though itd make it less quality. the Kracken case would protect it, its a tank
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Glass piece ? There's no glass piece on the amaze lens, its just the lens housed in an aluminum cover. And its open .
My tape idea works great, just replace a new piece when its time. Any ways its a cheap pheasable solution
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Glass piece ? There's no glass piece on the amaze lens, its just the lens housed in an aluminum cover. And its open .
My tape idea works great, just replace a new piece when its time. Any ways its a cheap pheasable solution
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its is a valid idea but I have a feeling the tape will collect dust since it will have sticky borders, and doesn't really prove scratch protection (not that durable).
something like a big generic type of boxwave screen protection would do better i would say since its not as sticky and you can cut many pieces out of it when its time to replace, if you need to replace it at all!!! I'm talking about the screen covers that dont' require water and sopa (not the ones like zagg) but ones that just go on. only concern is how it'll change the picture and video clarity!!! ahhh, i'm takling too much!!
Yeah you do have to be diligent with it, replace a lot , and somthing could poke through and scratch it. But clarity is exactly why I chose tape...now I'm talkin to much...lol
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oh, well usually HTC puts glass or something above the lense xD
Have scratched lenses been a problem? Are we creating a problem where none exists? Just asking. Are we covering the lens on the assumption that the design must lead to scratches, or cuz the design DOES lead to scratches
marleyfan61 said:
Have scratched lenses been a problem? Are we creating a problem where none exists? Just asking. Are we covering the lens on the assumption that the design must lead to scratches, or cuz the design DOES lead to scratches
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yes lenses get tiny scratches over time, they are just glass. heck even gorilla glass gets scuffed up over time, here's a guy who cracked the lens COVER, but he could fix that by getting a new backplate since its this htc phone HAS a lens cover on the backplate. imagine when people start cracking the actual lens, then the camera becomes completely useless and you'll need to get a new phone
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HttusQFAp3I
up till now most phones had a glass cover on the backplate, that glass cover would get scratched up like crazy after a year of use, MY N1 had that lens cover on the backplate, I had to order a new backplate after a year so I could shoot clear pictures again...the amaze has no such glass over the actual lens... this can create big problems down the line, since its faily new people have not noticed it yet. worse yet, it can break!!!!
SOLUTION FOUND: seems like i'm not the only one who's thought of thise, the evo, sensation, amazes and rezounds cameras are all exposed.
http://www.amazon.com/Cell-Phone-Camera-Lens-Protector/dp/B004GZSXQI
I'll let you guys know how good it works.
seansk said:
SOLUTION FOUND: seems like i'm not the only one who's thought of thise, the evo, sensation, amazes and rezounds cameras are all exposed.
http://www.amazon.com/Cell-Phone-Camera-Lens-Protector/dp/B004GZSXQI
I'll let you guys know how good it works.
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people said it peeled and what not.
maybe we can make a protector out of this http://www.amazon.com/Original-Genu...ce-Replacement/dp/B004W1IYOC/ref=pd_sim_cps_1 worth a try
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people said it peeled and what not.
maybe we can make a protector out of this http://www.amazon.com/Original-Genu...ce-Replacement/dp/B004W1IYOC/ref=pd_sim_cps_1 worth a try
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hmmm worth a try, I don't have all this spare money to spend on a bunch of different things though lol.
they have this too, but minimu order is 300 units, its basically the same as as a screen protector, anyone want to go in for 300 units and split it, lol.

Scratched camera... Any fix?

I notice the rear camera is slightly scratched and probably is effecting my image quality, not a big issue, but I'm just wondering if there's anyway to remove scratches from that piece of plastic protecting the camera.
I've searched on i9100 forum and found that the user had to replace the whole back housing or something.
Maybe glass cleaner? The cameras glass right?
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I think its plastic. Or at least it feels like plastic
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Smacdallas said:
Maybe glass cleaner? The cameras glass right?
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Plastic. If it was glass, it shouldn't scratch that easy. :/
Here was the i9100 guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1409609
Tape off the glass, polishing compound on a felt dremel wheel. Go slow.. Dont melt the lens...
Not rocket science...
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^Is the lens glass or plastic.. I keep thinking it is plastic since it feels like plastic and got scratched easily.. Even the LED flash is slightly scratched.
The outer protective material is plastic. But stevenrogers is right, yet it can be overkill if you're not confident with a dremel. But its definately not glass we're talking about.
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I have a pretty scratched up back camera. Probably from sliding it around on its back too much. I noticed that it doesn't affect its camera quality though.
If you don't notice any effect in your pictures, dont try to fix it.
The scratches on the lens are a long way from the focal plane of the lens, so they might affect the contrast a little bit, but it's unlikely that you'll notice anything.
Try this experiment. Take a hair, and hold or tape it onto the phone so that it crosses the center of the camera lens. Start the camera app, and try to find the hair....
AoN
Now having this problem myself with the scratches definitely affecting quality and having looked at the lens cover holder closely t seems it may be removable. There seems to be two clips one on each short side and one clip on the top. Is this right? Has anyone got an old back chassis they could see if they could get the cover off by releasing these clips? If it is possible then the plastic should be removable and could be replaced with a cut down screen protector.
Using a dremel and polishing compound can clear it up. Although you do have to be careful.
One thing you can do if don't have the tools or the patience is to take it to a jeweler. They can polish it out. You may have to try one or two to find someone to do it.... but there are some out there that will be glad to do it.
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Anyone notice a scratched camera lens?

I only had my HTC One a few days when I noticed 2 small scratches on the camera lens. I had a TPU case on it but the HTC One camera lens is pretty much flush with the back. So the case did not provide much protection to the lens when I placed the phone front side up. Kind of disappointed to discover the scratches. For such a premium phone I would expect HTC to use a glass lens or something. Now I'm forced to use an Otterbox case to provide better protection and/or remember to place the phone face down everytime on my desk.
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I only had my HTC One a few days when I noticed 2 small scratches on the camera lens. I had a TPU case on it but the HTC One camera lens is pretty much flush with the back. So the case did not provide much protection to the lens when I placed the phone front side up. Kind of disappointed to discover the scratches. For such a premium phone I would expect HTC to use a glass lens or something. Now I'm forced to use an Otterbox case to provide better protection and/or remember to place the phone face down everytime on my desk.
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it could be alot worse. many of us are having our camera lenses crack on us outta nowhere without physical damage. id rather have the scratches personally cuz htc refuses to help..
Usually when buying s new phone the first things I do is lapping s screen protector and, if possibe cut a protective piece for the camera
I was gonna topic such a question about camera lenses before u asked this.
It's very easy to nik scratch the glass lens.
I havent figured a way yet ....but the cutting a circle from a screen protector and leaving the eye open is a good idea.
INFACT....the s4 comes with one over the lens only the eye is exposed.
Best scenario for now is to be careful and use micro fiber to clean it off every now and again.
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unixman2000 said:
I only had my HTC One a few days when I noticed 2 small scratches on the camera lens. I had a TPU case on it but the HTC One camera lens is pretty much flush with the back. So the case did not provide much protection to the lens when I placed the phone front side up. Kind of disappointed to discover the scratches. For such a premium phone I would expect HTC to use a glass lens or something. Now I'm forced to use an Otterbox case to provide better protection and/or remember to place the phone face down everytime on my desk.
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You're not alone here man.. I mean I had my phone for a month using an incipio dual pro (which is really good and really protective) and my camera lens is COMPLETELY scratched. And I clean it every week so to avoid it scratching. But everyday I notice one more scratch. I sent an email to htc to see what they say but man, it's freaking annoying.. We bought a premium smartphone with cheap Chinese lenses.. Don't understand what they did.. My S3 was treated way more badly and it's in perfect conditions.
Mine has a lot of scratches. Luckly they are not in the middle lens area.
I have this smudge on my camera lens. So when I take pictures, if I turn my phone just the right way, there's this glare on the camera. This smudge won't come off, either. I don't know what to do. It doesn't bother all too much, but if the right amount of light and particular angles can make it a nuisance.
I've uploaded pictures to show you all how it looks. One image you can clearly see the smudge. On another it looks like nothing is there. Then I tried to take one where it's slightly there. I think it's the middle one. LoL!!

Accessories Camera Protector

Anyone use these? I bought it and am giving it a try. It was real easy to apply.
Spigen Camera Protector
Word, refraction.
No need for this. The outside lens are the built in lense guards!* By adding an additional layer of glass (a optical element) you introduce a potential litany of optical issues that to a greater or lesser degree will certainly degrade the image and potentially the AF performance. Samsung went to a lot of trouble to reduce lense flaring too, don't undo that!
A good case with raised cam guards is far superior protection.
*these are relatively cheap and easy to replace. They are glass and wouldn't scratch unless you rub the grit into them. Simply dry wipe with a microfiber cloth to clean.
Sir_Eagle said:
Anyone use these? I bought it and am giving it a try. It was real easy to apply.
Spigen Camera Protector
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I use something similar on 22+ and 22ultra and I think pictures and videos are just fine.
butchieboy said:
I use something similar on 22+ and 22ultra and I think pictures and videos are just fine.
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No anti-reflective coatings. Tempered glass isn't known for its flatness.
It's like putting a $16 UV filter on a Heliopan UV filter, pointless.
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The protector cost about the same as the factory lense protector.
Well ok , but again pics and videos look fine enough for me. I'm not comparing whatever it is your pointing out..lol I'm just sharing my thoughts with what I have
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Well ok , but again pics and videos look fine enough for me. I'm not comparing whatever it is your pointing out..lol I'm just sharing my thoughts with what I have
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Fair enough.
Because it's not back coated with an anti-reflective coating(s) the first most obvious problem could back reflections from the sensor or other optical elements causing ghosting. The factory protector and lens elements do have this.
If not perfectly flat it introduces distortion to the images. Some light is also lost due to refraction by the untreated glass as well just by adding another optical element.
Well it's only been one day and haven't taken many pics but so far I'm happy with it. The main reason I wanted it is the fact that the camera lenses are always exposed and when the phone is in and out of pockets, slid around on tables, always getting touched,if it does get scratched it's easy to change and inexpensive. All the arguments against a protector are just like a UV filter on DSLR lenses. And that's still not a closed case with a definative answer.
Sir_Eagle said:
Well it's only been one day and haven't taken many pics but so far I'm happy with it. The main reason I wanted it is the fact that the camera lenses are always exposed and when the phone is in and out of pockets, slid around on tables, always getting touched,if it does get scratched it's easy to change and inexpensive. All the arguments against a protector are just like a UV filter on DSLR lenses. And that's still not a closed case with a definative answer.
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My Note 10+ is 2.5 yo and used in a dusty environment plus I live in the desert. It's in a Bolt case and it's factory protector is actually polycarbonate I think. I try not to grab it there when in my pocket as it makes a convenient gripping point and only use a clean dry microfiber cloth to clean it*. No scratches, it's holding up well.
With DSLR's there is no protective element on most lens to begin with, there are a few exceptions**. The front element is somewhat protected by the hood and most even on L glass aren't terribly expensive.
A good filter like the brass ring Heliopan UV filter: -Makes cleaning easing
-With front vented lens it's the final dust seal and helps reduce the amount of dust the lense sucks up... which is important.
-It will sacrifice itself and help absorb impact G's when $hit goes south.
The biggest hassle with the factory phone lens protector is replacing it. The rear cover likely must be removed. That's probably a none issue as it will need a battery in a year or two if heavily used and it can easily be replaced at that time if needed.
*avoid touching any optic elements with fingers, this will scratch them eventually as fingers easily pickup fine grit.
Do Not use anything other than a thick clean microfiber cloth to clean. Dry is ok, but shake it out first, wet if needed... use your best judgment.
Wash the microfiber clothes with ammonia water, and use RO water to rinse.
**in some extremely high dollar Canon telephoto lens the front element is a protective flat lense. The lense behind it costs hundreds of dollars to replace, it's not a $70 lense! A good Heliopan UV filter is actually about the same cost as the front element it's protecting in most applications
That said Heliopan's were always on the end of my cams.
Sir_Eagle said:
Anyone use these? I bought it and am giving it a try. It was real easy to apply.
Spigen Camera Protector
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It is too much price for camera protection! I applied a phone cover on my S22+ which also covers the camera and gives good protection.

Question Dust gathering quite quickly over 3x lens, especially when using cases which completely surround it

Has anyone else also noticed dust gathering relatively rapidly over the 3x lens especially when using cases which completely surround it? A lot of cases have this style now, presumably because it helps with lens protection - I'd rather it actually have more opening with the Flash LED and Laser AF though, so that dust can more spontaneously distribute away and not accumulate over the 3x lens. The other larger lenses don't seem to have this issue, presumably because there's a larger surface area for the dust to distribute and spontaneously move away.
What's interesting though is that despite the 3x lens looking quite dusty in appearance, it doesn't appear to affect photo/video quality, which is somewhat counter-intuitive - how bad does it need to get before it affects this? Perhaps smudges are more of an issue than dust particles over a lens?
Finally, I'd be interested in simple suggestions to clean the dust off the lens in this particular scenario, without removing the case - it's actually quite hard to do this over the 3x lens, as the access to it is quite limited due to being a relatively small hole, and the dust tends to be quite stubborn!
I haven't had this phone for very long but I haven't noticed this issue so far. I have two cases, one is a spigen liquid air which has a single long vertical pill cutout around the 3x and autofocus lens modules and another one is a no name case with individual holes for each lens (sorta like the one you described). No dust accumulation around the 3X lens in either of them.
Is it possible your particular case material holds more static electricity and attracts dust particles? I'm just thinking out loud here, no particular evidence.
I would post photos but I'm traveling and don't have another phone to take pics with
enigmaamit said:
I haven't had this phone for very long but I haven't noticed this issue so far. I have two cases, one is a spigen liquid air which has a single long vertical pill cutout around the 3x and autofocus lens modules and another one is a no name case with individual holes for each lens (sorta like the one you described). No dust accumulation around the 3X lens in either of them.
Is it possible your particular case material holds more static electricity and attracts dust particles? I'm just thinking out loud here, no particular evidence.
I would post photos but I'm traveling and don't have another phone to take pics with
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I think the "single long vertical pill cutout" will accumulate less dust - intuitively, that's simply the "laws of physics"! That is, a larger cutout will tend to accumulate less dust due to my explanation in the first post.
Regarding static electricity, I don't think so for my case, since it's leather. Do you carry your phone in your pocket often? I find that's the main way the dust accumulates for me.
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I think the "single long vertical pill cutout" will accumulate less dust - intuitively, that's simply the "laws of physics"! That is, a larger cutout will tend to accumulate less dust due to my explanation in the first post.
Regarding static electricity, I don't think so for my case, since it's leather. Do you carry your phone in your pocket often? I find that's the main way the dust accumulates for me.
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Yes, pant pockets for most of the day unless i'm drviving, in which case it's on the dashboard mount. For the last few days its been in the individual punch-hole type case but i still don't see any dust around the 3x camera.
I managed to get a pic for you. Not sure if it helps
enigmaamit said:
Yes, pant pockets for most of the day unless i'm drviving, in which case it's on the dashboard mount. For the last few days its been in the individual punch-hole type case but i still don't see any dust around the 3x camera.
I managed to get a pic for you. Not sure if it helps
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Yes I think it depends on what pockets. Some of mine don't collect dust as quickly, but I have certain shorts which seem to spray dust at the lens!
ssj100 said:
Yes I think it depends on what pockets. Some of mine don't collect dust as quickly, but I have certain shorts which seem to spray dust at the lens!
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Lol... made me laugh. What first world problems we've discovered
now we have to look for shorts and pants with "Made for Samsung" certification
enigmaamit said:
Yes, pant pockets for most of the day unless i'm drviving, in which case it's on the dashboard mount. For the last few days its been in the individual punch-hole type case but i still don't see any dust around the 3x camera.
I managed to get a pic for you. Not sure if it helps
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You can actually see some dust quite clearly even on that photo I think, including a quite large "S-shaped" particle over the 3x lens. It also appears there are tiny white specks over and around the lens too, and if I remember correctly, you only had the phone for a few days at the time of the photo. I'd like to see a follow up picture now (assuming you haven't done any cleaning at all over the 3x lens).
ssj100 said:
You can actually see some dust quite clearly even on that photo I think, including a quite large "S-shaped" particle over the 3x lens. It also appears there are tiny white specks over and around the lens too, and if I remember correctly, you only had the phone for a few days at the time of the photo. I'd like to see a follow up picture now (assuming you haven't done any cleaning at all over the 3x lens).
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That S shaped thing is a strand of lint from my pocket, and its "on" the lens, not around it. I've found this common with all phones I've owned, especially when using cotton/linen trousers. There isn't much dust collected around the lenses to my naked eyes (with zooming in on a well focussed, hi-res pic, some particles may be visible i guess)
Since then I've bought myself a bunch of cases to play around with. The recent ones have individual camera cutouts with no space for dust to collect - so I don't think they will be very helpful. But I'll post an image anyway. The pics attached are with the official Samsung Clear Case. Has been on the phone since the 19th of this Month.
I have UAG Plyo case and carry usually in jeans pocket. Now I can confirm too that 3x lens is magnet for dust, more than other lenses with autofocus circle too.
In next days I try samsung leather cover with flat sheet and observe maybe difference in this case.
You know you can literally just WASH the phone! It's water resistant. I do it all the time to keep dust off!
No doubt best under a Samsung faucet...
Don't put it in a pocket!
Pockets are for change and pocket knives! ;-)
Get this instead!
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(Or any belt clip/pouch)
cpufrost said:
Don't put it in a pocket!
Pockets are for change and pocket knives! ;-)
Get this instead!
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(Or any belt clip/pouch)
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With size (big like you know) S23U sitting with this holster hooked to belt is very uncomfortable and risk broke phone.
Maybe with standard S23 but not with S23U in my opinion.
I tested leather holster for belt with my old Note 9 few years ago and used him maybe only several times.
Next of course only for me but walk on the street with similar big holester is strange ( magnet looking other people).
But it's idea for solve problem from topic.
_GRIZZLY_ said:
With size (big like you know) S23U sitting with this holster hooked to belt is very uncomfortable and risk broke phone.
Maybe with standard S23 but not with S23U in my opinion.
I tested leather holster for belt with my old Note 9 few years ago and used him maybe only several times.
Next of course only for me but walk on the street with similar big holester is strange ( magnet looking other people).
But it's idea for solve problem from topic.
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Yes it is uncomfortable at times particularly getting in and out of a service truck!
But I've never broken a phone or even come close to having damage and I've had all the "big boys" including folds on my hip doing various things including climbing radio towers! The thought of having it in a pocket in such places is like fingernails dragging across a chalkboard, not to mention pulling out the phone when needed. It just glides in and out easy. If I ever wanted to go naked that's the way I'd go.
If carrying vertically and your shirt is pulled over some may think you're packing and that could be good or bad depending on the situation. :-|
Different strokes for different folks of course!
enigmaamit said:
That S shaped thing is a strand of lint from my pocket, and its "on" the lens, not around it. I've found this common with all phones I've owned, especially when using cotton/linen trousers. There isn't much dust collected around the lenses to my naked eyes (with zooming in on a well focussed, hi-res pic, some particles may be visible i guess)
Since then I've bought myself a bunch of cases to play around with. The recent ones have individual camera cutouts with no space for dust to collect - so I don't think they will be very helpful. But I'll post an image anyway. The pics attached are with the official Samsung Clear Case. Has been on the phone since the 19th of this Month.
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Any lint/dust gathering is part of my point though. To clarify, it's inevitable that dust will eventually gather around/over the lenses - it's not a matter of "if" (something that you seem to be implying at least), but of "when".
In general, I've noticed that the dust gathering really only starts becoming more noticeable after 5-7 days. After 11-14 days, it becomes quite significant to the point that one wonders how it's not affecting camera footage (but it doesn't appear to do so somehow). I think definitely specific shorts/trousers material will contribute more dust than others, so it's hard to compare my use to eg. yours specifically. However, my ultimate point was that the dust tends to gather at a faster rate over the 3x lens due to what I've already explained, and that cleaning it is quite a hassle with the cases which completely surround it - from my experience, essentially to clean it properly/well, you need to completely remove the case, which is a bit disappointing relatively speaking.
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it's not a matter of "if" (something that you seem to be implying at least), but of "when".
it's hard to compare my use to eg. yours specifically.
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I'm sorry I wasn't able to help.
There were no implications in my posts, just my own observations, which seem to be different from yours - like you said: hard to compare.
It's okay to have a difference of opinion.
I will bow out of this discussion now as it doesn't seem to be heading anywhere constructive, and getting a little personal.
enigmaamit said:
I'm sorry I wasn't able to help.
There were no implications in my posts, just my own observations, which seem to be different from yours - like you said: hard to compare.
It's okay to have a difference of opinion.
I will bow out of this discussion now as it doesn't seem to be heading anywhere constructive, and getting a little personal.
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That's fair enough, although surprised you feel that way. There is no difference in opinion that I can see - we both agree that lint/dust gathers on/around the lens (you even showed it in many of your photos). Inevitably, this lint/dust will get worse and worse with time if you never clean it. We also both agreed (I think) that different material shorts/trousers and/or environmental conditions can contribute to rate of dust gathering.
These are all obvious things though, much like how everyone would concede that they get fingerprint marks/smudges on the front of their screen which "needs" a purposeful clean/wipe every now and then.
Ultimately I was actually hoping someone could comment on this query in my original post:
"...simple suggestions to clean the dust off the lens in this particular scenario, without removing the case"
_GRIZZLY_ said:
I have UAG Plyo case and carry usually in jeans pocket. Now I can confirm too that 3x lens is magnet for dust, more than other lenses with autofocus circle too.
In next days I try samsung leather cover with flat sheet and observe maybe difference in this case.
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What do you mean by "with flat sheet"?
ssj100 said:
What do you mean by "with flat sheet"?
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Case without higher places/circles around camera lenses which can more move dust in pocket
I had a Spigen Rugged Armour and a Ringke Onyx, both of which have the precise cutouts, and both of which resulted in dust collecting. I really liked both of these cases, but have now settled on a Spigen Optik Armor for just this reason - the sliding door keeps the lenses absolutely pristine with no dust, fingerprints, or risk of scratching. The door might be an inconvenience for some, but personally I only use the cameras infrequently so it's no problem - https://www.spigen.com/products/galaxy-s23-ultra-case-optik-armor
EDIT: Twinned it with one of these for easy access: https://www.encased.com/shop/belt-clip-holster-for-spigen-optik-armor-samsung-galaxy-s23-ultra/
Kinsman-UK said:
I had a Spigen Rugged Armour and a Ringke Onyx, both of which have the precise cutouts, and both of which resulted in dust collecting. I really liked both of these cases, but have now settled on a Spigen Optik Armor for just this reason - the sliding door keeps the lenses absolutely pristine with no dust, fingerprints, or risk of scratching. The door might be an inconvenience for some, but personally I only use the cameras infrequently so it's no problem - https://www.spigen.com/products/galaxy-s23-ultra-case-optik-armor
EDIT: Twinned it with one of these for easy access: https://www.encased.com/shop/belt-clip-holster-for-spigen-optik-armor-samsung-galaxy-s23-ultra/
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I am wondering buy Spigen Optic Armor for good protect but not too bulky like my UAG Plyo so I looking to slimmer case.
Camel leather cover which gift for buy phone look very nice, good in touch but I am affraid about will do micro scratch after time on the lenses from carry in pocket.
Can you tell me about your impressions this armor optik?
Especially about mechanism covered lenses

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