I notice the rear camera is slightly scratched and probably is effecting my image quality, not a big issue, but I'm just wondering if there's anyway to remove scratches from that piece of plastic protecting the camera.
I've searched on i9100 forum and found that the user had to replace the whole back housing or something.
Maybe glass cleaner? The cameras glass right?
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I think its plastic. Or at least it feels like plastic
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Maybe glass cleaner? The cameras glass right?
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Plastic. If it was glass, it shouldn't scratch that easy. :/
Here was the i9100 guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1409609
Tape off the glass, polishing compound on a felt dremel wheel. Go slow.. Dont melt the lens...
Not rocket science...
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^Is the lens glass or plastic.. I keep thinking it is plastic since it feels like plastic and got scratched easily.. Even the LED flash is slightly scratched.
The outer protective material is plastic. But stevenrogers is right, yet it can be overkill if you're not confident with a dremel. But its definately not glass we're talking about.
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I have a pretty scratched up back camera. Probably from sliding it around on its back too much. I noticed that it doesn't affect its camera quality though.
If you don't notice any effect in your pictures, dont try to fix it.
The scratches on the lens are a long way from the focal plane of the lens, so they might affect the contrast a little bit, but it's unlikely that you'll notice anything.
Try this experiment. Take a hair, and hold or tape it onto the phone so that it crosses the center of the camera lens. Start the camera app, and try to find the hair....
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Now having this problem myself with the scratches definitely affecting quality and having looked at the lens cover holder closely t seems it may be removable. There seems to be two clips one on each short side and one clip on the top. Is this right? Has anyone got an old back chassis they could see if they could get the cover off by releasing these clips? If it is possible then the plastic should be removable and could be replaced with a cut down screen protector.
Using a dremel and polishing compound can clear it up. Although you do have to be careful.
One thing you can do if don't have the tools or the patience is to take it to a jeweler. They can polish it out. You may have to try one or two to find someone to do it.... but there are some out there that will be glad to do it.
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Hello everyone.
I just got my SGS II today. And this is my first android phone. My previous phone was Nokia N80 (2006) . Wow! I love it!
Back to my question, I've been wondering whether the rear camera (8MP camera) protected by the Gorilla Glass?
Thanks.
ehm i dont think so, im protecting mine with sticky tape
Would have been a good idea. Would have added next to nothing to the cost of the device.
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I had an old (unused) screen protector that I cut to size to stick on. I don't have the patience to cut it to the exact so it's a hexagon. Far from ideal, but it'll do..
I'd have loved gorilla glass on the camera lens..
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I had an old (unused) screen protector that I cut to size to stick on. I don't have the patience to cut it to the exact so it's a hexagon. Far from ideal, but it'll do..
I'd have loved gorilla glass on the camera lens..
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Gorilla doesn't mean unsrcatchable.
The camera is likely to get scratches from dust, sand.
I buy some sticky smiley and stick on the back so that the glass does't meet the surface.
Now, I don't know if they did or didn't. But if they didn't: How stupid.
Particularly the AT&T model don't know about the other ones, but when the AT&T model is resting on it's back, it's got this bump down at the bottom, so that raises the bottom up, and then at the other end guess what the camera is resting on? Yes you guess right, the camera lens cover, directly, not even the slighted bit of raised edging to protect it or anything.
Poor industrial design, that's like freshman type stuff.
Why don't most phones come with a camera lens cover slider such as like this
http://blog.se-nse.net/sony-ericsson-announces-the-c901-for-emerging-markets/
so people don't have to do this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEhaVmyZaBw
If anyone has a good solution for lens protection I really appreciate it...it always gets dusty, scratched overtime etc...
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Why don't most phones come with a camera lens cover slider such as like this
http://blog.se-nse.net/sony-ericsson-announces-the-c901-for-emerging-markets/
so people don't have to do this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEhaVmyZaBw
If anyone has a good solution for lens protection I really appreciate it...it always gets dusty, scratched overtime etc...
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my nokia had it like the sonny you showed and still gets dusty. I think they should make the lens of some kind of material that doesnt get dust to stick. I remember the iphone 4 lens were uncovered and never got dusty, might just be the lens material..
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my nokia had it like the sonny you showed and still gets dusty. I think they should make the lens of some kind of material that doesnt get dust to stick. I remember the iphone 4 lens were uncovered and never got dusty, might just be the lens material..
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dust i can live with, I'll wipe it...scratches I can't!!! i might just buy a generic cheap screen cover and try to cut it out, but it'll be a hard task to do a good job!!! I'm also afraid its going to affect the picture and camera quality with a cover like that on.
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dust i can live with, I'll wipe it...scratches I can't!!! i might just buy a generic cheap screen cover and try to cut it out, but it'll be a hard task to do a good job!!! I'm also afraid its going to affect the picture and camera quality with a cover like that on.
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Get a case then i suggest. like the trident kraken one, nothing will touch your camera. the cheap screen protector isnt a bad idea either
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Get a case then i suggest. like the trident kraken one, nothing will touch your camera. the cheap screen protector isnt a bad idea either
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Ya have a case which is actually raised where the camera is so it helps protect it, but lets say you put it in you pocket with keys (I try to never do that) Now what??? the camera is still out in the open, the backplate doesn't protect it like some other phones...my old nexus ones backplate covered the camera with an extra glass, so if it got scratched you could just replace the backplate...this phone there's nothing to protect it...this is a big deal for me as I am an avid picture taker.
Here's what I do. Buy a roll of high quality 3m clear tape like for packing. Cut out just enough to fit over the camera. And I don't mean a small circle I cut to fit the shape of the silver part. Here's a hint: don't touch the sticky part youre applying with your figertips. Firmly apply and as your doing so try to stretch it a bit. For quick snaps you won't even know its there. Otherwise peel back shoot re apply.
Yeah cheesy but it works great.
I'm digging my amaze....
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Here's what I do. Buy a roll of high quality 3m clear tape like for packing. Cut out just enough to fit over the camera. And I don't mean a small circle I cut to fit the shape of the silver part. Here's a hint: don't touch the sticky part youre applying with your figertips. Firmly apply and as your doing so try to stretch it a bit. For quick snaps you won't even know its there. Otherwise peel back shoot re apply.
Yeah cheesy but it works great.
I'm digging my amaze....
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sounds like a good idea but what happens when you have to take it off (for some reason) and the glass peice goes with it xD haha. im still with the screen protector even though itd make it less quality. the Kracken case would protect it, its a tank
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sounds like a good idea but what happens when you have to take it off (for some reason) and the glass peice goes with it xD haha. im still with the screen protector even though itd make it less quality. the Kracken case would protect it, its a tank
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yet another sonyericsson phone with good camera cover
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VXPxko79aI&feature=related
...a lot sonyericsson phones come with that kind of cover, with LED flash PLUS xenon flash, learn HTC, learn. With such high quality camera's now...I would assume that xenon flash and led flash (for flashlight purposes perhaps or video recording) would be a norm. I would also assume a sliding cover would also be a norm...I mean face it our camera takes better pics than many point and shoot camera's out there, and those aall have lenses that have either covers or retract...If HTC is going to advertise this as their "phone geared toward camera" they should have included such things in my opinion, then again there's alway cost, i would probably end up being around 900 bucks unsubsidized...which if you think about it is good, if you have an amazing point and shoot camera and an amazing phone all in one..
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sounds like a good idea but what happens when you have to take it off (for some reason) and the glass peice goes with it xD haha. im still with the screen protector even though itd make it less quality. the Kracken case would protect it, its a tank
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Glass piece ? There's no glass piece on the amaze lens, its just the lens housed in an aluminum cover. And its open .
My tape idea works great, just replace a new piece when its time. Any ways its a cheap pheasable solution
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Glass piece ? There's no glass piece on the amaze lens, its just the lens housed in an aluminum cover. And its open .
My tape idea works great, just replace a new piece when its time. Any ways its a cheap pheasable solution
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its is a valid idea but I have a feeling the tape will collect dust since it will have sticky borders, and doesn't really prove scratch protection (not that durable).
something like a big generic type of boxwave screen protection would do better i would say since its not as sticky and you can cut many pieces out of it when its time to replace, if you need to replace it at all!!! I'm talking about the screen covers that dont' require water and sopa (not the ones like zagg) but ones that just go on. only concern is how it'll change the picture and video clarity!!! ahhh, i'm takling too much!!
Yeah you do have to be diligent with it, replace a lot , and somthing could poke through and scratch it. But clarity is exactly why I chose tape...now I'm talkin to much...lol
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oh, well usually HTC puts glass or something above the lense xD
Have scratched lenses been a problem? Are we creating a problem where none exists? Just asking. Are we covering the lens on the assumption that the design must lead to scratches, or cuz the design DOES lead to scratches
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Have scratched lenses been a problem? Are we creating a problem where none exists? Just asking. Are we covering the lens on the assumption that the design must lead to scratches, or cuz the design DOES lead to scratches
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yes lenses get tiny scratches over time, they are just glass. heck even gorilla glass gets scuffed up over time, here's a guy who cracked the lens COVER, but he could fix that by getting a new backplate since its this htc phone HAS a lens cover on the backplate. imagine when people start cracking the actual lens, then the camera becomes completely useless and you'll need to get a new phone
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HttusQFAp3I
up till now most phones had a glass cover on the backplate, that glass cover would get scratched up like crazy after a year of use, MY N1 had that lens cover on the backplate, I had to order a new backplate after a year so I could shoot clear pictures again...the amaze has no such glass over the actual lens... this can create big problems down the line, since its faily new people have not noticed it yet. worse yet, it can break!!!!
SOLUTION FOUND: seems like i'm not the only one who's thought of thise, the evo, sensation, amazes and rezounds cameras are all exposed.
http://www.amazon.com/Cell-Phone-Camera-Lens-Protector/dp/B004GZSXQI
I'll let you guys know how good it works.
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SOLUTION FOUND: seems like i'm not the only one who's thought of thise, the evo, sensation, amazes and rezounds cameras are all exposed.
http://www.amazon.com/Cell-Phone-Camera-Lens-Protector/dp/B004GZSXQI
I'll let you guys know how good it works.
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people said it peeled and what not.
maybe we can make a protector out of this http://www.amazon.com/Original-Genu...ce-Replacement/dp/B004W1IYOC/ref=pd_sim_cps_1 worth a try
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people said it peeled and what not.
maybe we can make a protector out of this http://www.amazon.com/Original-Genu...ce-Replacement/dp/B004W1IYOC/ref=pd_sim_cps_1 worth a try
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hmmm worth a try, I don't have all this spare money to spend on a bunch of different things though lol.
they have this too, but minimu order is 300 units, its basically the same as as a screen protector, anyone want to go in for 300 units and split it, lol.
I've noticed that my camera is already a little scratched up and I think a year down the line it may be pretty scratched, can the lens be replaced?
Don't think so. U probably need to replace the whole cam.
Anyone have any tips or suggestions on how to prevent camera lens scratch? I hate having a case on the phone, but if the phone is put on a table the lens is in contact with the surface... would a screen protector work?
I would buy any clear screen protector and make the cutout. It shouldn't mess with the clarity.
I put a clear tape over the camera when its not in use,
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I've noticed that my camera is already a little scratched up and I think a year down the line it may be pretty scratched, can the lens be replaced?
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I've replaced it before on my HTC HD2. It's not so hard, once the bevel is removed the outer glass falls right out. Got my replacement from Ebay.
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Camera protection is actually one of the main reasons I love the flip cover by Samsung. The replacement back is just a tad thicker than the stock cover around the camera lens and cause it to recess a bit protecting it from surface scratches from just being placed down.
Anyone notice the red/black camera fitting on the removable cover is just a hole, not a protective lens?
That meens dirt/sand/etc will collect/scratch direct to camera on internal board.
Anybody have (effective) ideas how to protect the cameras lens without seriously affecting photo quality?
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I assume that was thought about in design and was left out so a second lens doesn't collect dirt and finger prints to distort images. I'd bet the glass covering it is pretty tough. This phone is very well designed.
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I assume that was thought about in design and was left out so a second lens doesn't collect dirt and finger prints to distort images. I'd bet the glass covering it is pretty tough. This phone is very well designed.
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Anyone notice the red/black camera fitting on the removable cover is just a hole, not a protective lens?
That meens dirt/sand/etc will collect/scratch direct to camera on internal board.
Anybody have (effective) ideas how to protect the cameras lens without seriously affecting photo quality?
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I have a few ideas... Keep it out of dirt... Wash your clothes properly so that you don't have sand and dirt in your pockets when you put your phone in it... Get a new phone.
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I have a few ideas... Keep it out of dirt... Wash your clothes properly so that you don't have sand and dirt in your pockets when you put your phone in it... Get a new phone.
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nice response... i too am a bit concerned that LINT or DUST will collect there...hopefully you'll remember to wipe it out with a cloth or something every so often before you end up taking blurry photos because of it.
just clean it out gently once a week.
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I have a few ideas... Keep it out of dirt... Wash your clothes properly so that you don't have sand and dirt in your pockets when you put your phone in it... Get a new phone.
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Why is there always a smart ass person with smart ass remarks?
If you actually knew a thing or two about lenses, you'd know that this is actually a big deal. Just because "zomg htc did zo gud it haz 2 b da best!" doesn't mean dust particles can't get in.
Some expensive camera lenses that are in the thousands of dollars, which are also "built very good", even get dust in 'em and it creates a huge problem.
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I have a few ideas... Keep it out of dirt... Wash your clothes properly so that you don't have sand and dirt in your pockets when you put your phone in it... Get a new phone.
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lolol
arozer said:
Why is there always a smart ass person with smart ass remarks?
If you actually knew a thing or two about lenses, you'd know that this is actually a big deal. Just because "zomg htc did zo gud it haz 2 b da best!" doesn't mean dust particles can't get in.
Some expensive camera lenses that are in the thousands of dollars, which are also "built very good", even get dust in 'em and it creates a huge problem.
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Which is why when I buy my DSLR lenses and cameras, I always get the protection plan for them so I get them cleaned once a year.
It's the same thing with phones. This phone is solid. There's always gotta be these threads of nitpicking. Seriously, if it's a big deal, you'll do a few things to prevent it. Clearly, it's part of the design. Is HTC gonna collect ALL of the EVO 4G LTEs in circulation, and fix this issue? No. Is there a way to fix it? Maybe. When you figure that out, then create a thread with [FIX] in the title.
This phone has literally been in the hands of the mainstream public (outside of pre-orders) for 5 days...
A second lens would lower the picture quality in my opinion, cameras have enough lens distortion without adding a second lens to cover the first. Besides, you can easily pull of the cover and gently clean around the lens
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A second lens would lower the picture quality in my opinion, cameras have enough lens distortion without adding a second lens to cover the first. Besides, you can easily pull of the cover and gently clean around the lens
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There are generally more pieces of glass than two... More like 19 groups in some lenses.
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I consider this a feature rather than a bug. I was excited HTC finally got it right when it comes to protecting the camera. Up til now, all HTC devices had a lens "cover" that protruded from the back surface and was therefore prone to scratching and smudging. On my HTC diamond I went so far as to drill a hole in the rear cover/battery door right over the actual lens so that pics would be crisper without being shot through a smoked/shaded plastic lens "cover". It worked beautifully and is in principle, the same they have done with the Evo LTE.
I am impressed. :thumbup:
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yes im aware but when i say second lens im referring to the plain piece of glass ive seen on cheapo cameras and cellphones, they are put their to protect the lens and it usually hurts more then help
Seems like a risky trade off
I just got this phone last night. I was shocked to see that the camera element was just sitting under a hole in a piece of plastic.
I've rocked the HTC Desire for the past two years. I do like that the front-most optical element of the Evo 4G LTE camera is recessed. For setting on tables, etc, this is a great design choice.
However... a thin cover glass on the outside of the cover can easily be wiped clean. In the extreme case, that little window can theoretically be easily popped out and replaced (I did pop mine out on the Desire, but just put it back in rather than replace).
Worried about scratches? Hell, it could have been made of Gorilla Glass like the whole front of the phone!
A gaping hole is just an invitation for all kinds of crap to build up in there. Already this morning, after < 12 hrs, mine camera has a bunch of lint and other debris on it. And now it's much more difficult for servicing (wiping).
I strongly question the advisability of just wiping anything that is bonded directly to the camera component. Did anyone read that as advice from HTC? Otherwise, I would tend to think that wiping could remove anti-glare or other optical coatings.
Dust is the only thing that will really get in there and that can be cleaned off easily. Unless you carry your phone with pebbles in your pocket or lay it on a surface with protruding nails or something.
Maybe it's for physical calibration of the micro-servo motor that's attached to the lens.
So on the original Evo, people complained because when you sat the phone down, the glass was the lowest point and touched the tabletop.
Now they've fixed that, and - more complaints. Ya can't win.
I just figure that pocket lint's all I have to worry about, and I'll take the can of dust-off to it once in a while.
I greatly prefer this way to the original Evo way.
i like this feature. sure something can get in there but without anything to actually rub the sand and such onto the lense i can't see this being an issue. the way i clean it (since the back is borderline impossible to get off on my evo) i just take a compressed air can every week or so and blow it into the hole.
I was cleaning my phone (weekly cleaning routine) and I swept my camera lens with a microfiber cloth. Guess what? I scratched it! AFAIK it doesn't impact the pictures taken, but It's annoying as ****.
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I was cleaning my phone (weekly cleaning routine) and I swept my camera lens with a microfiber cloth. Guess what? I scratched it! AFAIK it doesn't impact the pictures taken, but It's annoying as ****.
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my verizon version did the same thing lol i mustve had a rough piece of dust on that cloth or something. ridiculous.
There's a thread on this.
Weird. I wipe mine off with my t-shirts all the time and and I don't have any scratches at all.
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Adn the sapphire glass?
LG G2.
also no issues here
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Have a couple micro scratches here. All chance icro what type of dust particles was there. Sapphire lens sure, non bonded ar coating on top... defeats the former purpose a bit imo...
Has every one here remembered to take off the plastic film around the camera, over the volume buttons, and the lense?
I don't have a single visable scratch on mine. It's the Verizon model, been kept in my pants pocket, and I've cleaned the lense with my shirt and still no scratches.
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Has every one here remembered to take off the plastic film around the camera, over the volume buttons, and the lense?
I don't have a single visable scratch on mine. It's the Verizon model, been kept in my pants pocket, and I've cleaned the lense with my shirt and still no scratches.
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Same here. I use my clothes and a microfiber cloth to clean mine and no scratches at all. If you have the plastic still, that will easily get scratched.
Same here verizon model always in pants it is in a tpu case but other then that never had issue yet
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I'm sorry I was widely misunderstood here. There was absolutely no issue till I intentionally wiped my camera. It's so hard to see, actually so hard that if the light isn't right, you can't see it. But when it's in the rifhr light angle, it appears as a green or violet line. It's extremely thin and it doesn't bother my OCD. And yes, the protective cover is removed. but it's annoying as duck that you mess **** up when cleaning the phone. If I was tossing it around and sitting on it, I would understand
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Thanks for the alert.
I think we should just use the same precaution as cleaning DSLR camera lens.
Make sure we dust off any dirt or foreign particle before wiping.
Any silicon particle on the surface will be abrasive, even for sapphire.