/data mystery - Optimus One, P500, V General

I'm on Generic ROM from LG which is 2.3.3 Gingerbread and I'm rooted.
This issue has been occurred to me previously but I would like to mention it with a fresh start.
Today the application Google Maps v6.8.1 was updated, thus I too updated my app. Now I took a backup of that app and renamed it as Maps_6.8.1.apk. I did a Clear Data on that app and uninstalled the update, then again did a Clear Data for the old app. Now from ES File Explorer, I went to /system/app and replaced the old Google Maps application with the latest update. After successfully replacing the application, I restarted my handset. After the restart, I checked that the app was successfully replaced and functional.
Now the only problem arises is that surprisingly, I still have some data worth 4MB in /data partition (NOTE: app size is 6.1MB). I can surely say this because I faced this problem earlier and did a Factory Reset which successfully gave me those occupied space. But this time, I don't want to perform a factory reset again.

van_helsing_80 said:
Now the only problem arises is that surprisingly, I still have some data worth 4MB in /data partition (NOTE: app size is 6.1MB). I can surely say this because I faced this problem earlier and did a Factory Reset which successfully gave me those occupied space. But this time, I don't want to perform a factory reset again.
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Trying to remember: isn't there a "save cache to SD" option in Map's settings? I don't have it installed on my current ROM so I can't check. This is different from the offline caching in map Labs.

fratermus said:
Trying to remember: isn't there a "save cache to SD" option in Map's settings? I don't have it installed on my current ROM so I can't check. This is different from the offline caching in map Labs.
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Maps was just an example my friend, this happens with any app I move to /system/app partition

Try clearing dalvik-cache(from recovery) but at your own expense
Once i cleared it and got bootloop,then had to factory reset from recovery

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I'm confused on System/App vs Data/App

To me, I should be able to Factory Reset my phone any time and get what was "Delivery" By Sprint/HTC/CustomROMChef
But I should be able to update (from market) any Market App.
So I see a lot of folks put a bunch of stuff normally in System/App in Data/App
So that users can uninstall it. That's fine.
But if users want it and factory reset (or clear data) it's completely gone and the only way to get it back is to flash.
If a Market App is in System/App and it be still updated from the Market.
If it can be updated from Market why can't it be uninstaled?
It seems there should be a script that runs when you clear data that repopulates Data to the same state it was delivered. But that would waste from ROM space.
What am I missing.
I hope folks follow my thinking and can straighten me out.
Thanks
Googling around I did find this one critical tidbit
Market updates with /system apps that aren't "supposed" to be in /system is a pain. The market will install an app into the /data/app directory by default, so if you have something like LauncherPro that is a non-system app by Google's definitions, but it's in your /system/app directory because it came pre-packaged with your ROM, then if you update from the market you end up with two copies of it -- a deprecated version in /system and the current version in /data.
You also lose any theming when you update from the market, but that's nothing new and iirc that's true for any themed app regardless of whether it's in /data or /system
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In the world of s-off you don't factory reset anymore you wipe and reflash.
If you factory reset any apps or data in the /data will disappear.
The system directory is typically write protected unless you can get root permissions, any updates are stored in data. Devs will typically put the updated apps in the system dir saves some space, once an update comes out the space you saved is then lost.
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Chuki82 said:
In the world of s-off you don't factory reset anymore you wipe and reflash.
If you factory reset any apps or data in the /data will disappear.
The system directory is typically write protected unless you can get root permissions, any updates are stored in data. Devs will typically put the updated apps in the system dir saves some space, once an update comes out the space you saved is then lost.
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I understand what you are saying. But I'd like the option/concept of being able to clear Data without Reflashing.
So are you saying if a Market App (e.g. Google Maps) is in System and you update it from Market, it will always put the updated version in Data and leave the System one dormant (it will never replace or remove the one in system regardless of root status)?
How does Sprints Stock ROM do it? They allow removing some bloatware and I assume if I factory Reset, nothing would be missing, even if I uninstalled it.
All I can think they do is they bury a backup of Data in the ROM that is restored on Factory Reset.
Yes on the updated apps thing. Updates are saved to data the original is left dormant in system.
The apps in the stock rom are in system, certain ones can be removed or so you think. They are more like disabled, something allows to go dormant as you called it and the only way I know to get it back is a reset.
If certain rom devs move apps to data to be actually removed and you do a reset you lose those apps. If you don't want that to happen, I suggest backing up any and all apps you want sprint, HTC, other. Then reset and restore.
I have backups of all the stock Apps I like to use and if the rom includes it, and great! If not I have a good copy on hand.
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Y factory reset when you could wipe dalvik and cache???,,, also learn how to move apps you want manually,,makes life easier for you sometimes
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ktrotter11 said:
Y factory reset when you could wipe dalvik and cache???,,, also learn how to move apps you want manually,,makes life easier for you sometimes
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Because if you having problems, due to what ever reason, clearing cache is not always the solution.

[Q] Prime froze at 98% on .15 /Check for update and clear dmclient cache grayed out

Hi:
My sister's prime froze at 98% during the .15 firmware update. She restarted and check for system updates is grayed out. She tried clearing the DMclient cache and data but those settings are grayed out as well. She did a couple of cold boots but the settings remain grayed out and she remains on .14.
I saw that alanhzl recommended using a file explorer to go into the /cache folder and delete the dlpkgfile. My sister's prime isn't rooted or unlocked. Is deleting the dlpkgfile the next best step or would you recommend other steps?
Thanks,
Tom
thenrik said:
Hi:
My sister's prime froze at 98% during the .15 firmware update. She restarted and check for system updates is grayed out. She tried clearing the DMclient cache and data but those settings are grayed out as well. She did a couple of cold boots but the settings remain grayed out and she remains on .14.
I saw that alanhzl recommended using a file explorer to go into the /cache folder and delete the dlpkgfile. My sister's prime isn't rooted or unlocked. Is deleting the dlpkgfile the next best step or would you recommend other steps?
Thanks,
Tom
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You can fix it without root by doing a factory reset. It's the only way I know of to clear that cache file other than root.
Hi:
Not what I wanted to hear but I'll start her on the backing up process before the factory reset.
Thanks,
Tom
Factory reset not as bad as it sounds
Hi:
Sooo, we used app dragon to generate an email list of installed apps, used the App Backup app to backup apps and data, 642mb, so we dropped a few to bring it down to 600mb, set a copy to be on the Microsd card. Copied down all of the screen settings and folder organizer contents and went for the factory reset. It worked like a charm and in no time my sister was on .15 and ICS 4.03.
The Market automatically downloaded 95% of the apps and the rest we selectively restored with App Backup restore. Note that when you choose the restore file it appears as if it's all or nothing but immediately lets you choose.
All in all a fairly painless process.
Tom
thenrik said:
Hi:
Sooo, we used app dragon to generate an email list of installed apps, used the App Backup app to backup apps and data, 642mb, so we dropped a few to bring it down to 600mb, set a copy to be on the Microsd card. Copied down all of the screen settings and folder organizer contents and went for the factory reset. It worked like a charm and in no time my sister was on .15 and ICS 4.03.
The Market automatically downloaded 95% of the apps and the rest we selectively restored with App Backup restore. Note that when you choose the restore file it appears as if it's all or nothing but immediately lets you choose.
All in all a fairly painless process.
Tom
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Nice work and glad it fixed it. Personally I just backup data for the few apps I care about it. Use android market to download all my paid apps, and use it as a chance to clean off crap I rarely if ever use. If I find I need it and forgot can just redownload.

Insufficient storage: google playstore error

before anyone jumps on my ass... i HAVE googled the **** out of this and spent 2 days looking for an answer. NOTHING i've found has worked.
i CANNOT install ANY updates via market. the ones i have tried, end up telling me "insufficient storage available" and then seem to disapear. facebook, maps, gmail, and a few others did this. one by one apps are leaving my phone. NO there is not a virus.
i've tried:
repairing permissions via TWRP
cleared cache/dalvik
deleted TONS of txt msgs
removed lots of apps
moved as many apps to SD as i could
deleted old nandroid backups
deleted old TIbackup backups
used leedriod to fix permissions
installed apps2sd and moved apps
im 5mins from doing a factory reset.
HELP!!!
some info:
nocturnal adrenaline r118
2.17.651.5
sense 3.0
hboot 1.4
You didn't say if you went into 'applications', manage, play store, and then cleared data. I hope you tried that and then rebooted. Same thing has happened to me and this cleared it up.
"We're coming from a pure power source."
tried that as well.
I know you may want to here this but you may need to reflash the Rom and and do a full wipe and a super wipe and wipe dalvik ceche wipe ceche and format system and the list go's on basicly wipe everything and run a super wipe tool and then flash your Rom if that doesn't work then you may want to try another Rom
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I know how you feel my girlfriend phone had the same problem
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Mine did too yesterday. Factory reset was only thing that worked.
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factory wipe work, but in my case, after some time the problem keep reappearing. i can't find a proper solution for this yet.
Try turning the autosync off on your Google accountunder settings(not playstore) then back on. If that fails try signing out if your Google account then readding it.
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Is there no progress regarding this issue?
aagame said:
Is there no progress regarding this issue?
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Try what I said. Want to know if that works
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Try clearing data on google services framework and google partner setup. Then reboot. Then add your account again and try the market.
#Root-Hack_Mod*Always\
Here's a compendium of not working solutions i've tried
repairing permissions via CWM recovery
uninstall market updates/use old market
cleared cache/dalvik
use marketfix
deleted TONS of txt msgs
removed lots of apps
use cache fixer
installed apps2sd and moved apps (ungazedata2sd,darktremor,link2sd)
find corpse app using sdmaid
Flash/reflash various ROMs
deleted old nandroid backups
deleted old TIbackup backups
uninstall/reinstall TIbackup
used Rom Manager to fix permissions
Try turning the autosync off on your Google accountunder settings(not playstore) then back on. If that fails try signing out if your Google account then readding it. (New)
Try clearing data on google services framework and google partner setup. Then reboot. Then add your account again and try the market. (New)
Here's a compendium of temporary working solutions i've tried:
unmount sdcard->install app->mount sd card only work for one download
using logcat to find specific file copy problem only work for that particular file, other download will still display this annoying error.
factory reset only helps for a while, and this annoying error came again.
Repartion/reformat sdcard also provide temporary solution, but soon the error came again.
This is soooo frustrating man!
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Here's a compendium of not working solutions i've tried
repairing permissions via CWM recovery
uninstall market updates/use old market
cleared cache/dalvik
use marketfix
deleted TONS of txt msgs
removed lots of apps
use cache fixer
installed apps2sd and moved apps (ungazedata2sd,darktremor,link2sd)
find corpse app using sdmaid
Flash/reflash various ROMs
deleted old nandroid backups
deleted old TIbackup backups
uninstall/reinstall TIbackup
used Rom Manager to fix permissions
Try turning the autosync off on your Google accountunder settings(not playstore) then back on. If that fails try signing out if your Google account then readding it. (New)
Try clearing data on google services framework and google partner setup. Then reboot. Then add your account again and try the market. (New)
Here's a compendium of temporary working solutions i've tried:
unmount sdcard->install app->mount sd card only work for one download
using logcat to find specific file copy problem only work for that particular file, other download will still display this annoying error.
factory reset only helps for a while, and this annoying error came again.
Repartion/reformat sdcard also provide temporary solution, but soon the error came again.
This is soooo frustrating man!
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Get a new SD card.
Weird how this problem is popping up up left and right.
I just had the same with CoolRom. Play Store AND apk files outsode of it could not be installed anymore.
Had to factory reset and now it works fine again. Pretty weird if you ask me...
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Both times I've had this error I used Cachemate to clear the cache, the apps then installed. Dunno why but suggests not enough RAM rather than storage.
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Get a new SD card.
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Already tried these sd cards:
2GB Class 2
Samsung 2 GB Class 4
2 different Transcend 32 GB Class 10 (New)
stuck again.
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KrewsialNL said:
Weird how this problem is popping up up left and right.
I just had the same with CoolRom. Play Store AND apk files outsode of it could not be installed anymore.
Had to factory reset and now it works fine again. Pretty weird if you ask me...
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Factory reset is a temporary solution, after some time, the bug will come again.:crying:
stevefwt said:
Both times I've had this error I used Cachemate to clear the cache, the apps then installed. Dunno why but suggests not enough RAM rather than storage.
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already tried clearing cache/dalvik, but not working 4 me.:crying:
Had the same problem with my Evo 3D. The problem is that you have to have at least 10% free internal storage in order to install anything. So move some big App to SD card to solve this.
No solutions up until now yet, but the real culprit is the cache created by google playstore in the cache partition when downloading apps.
I found a workaround to use until google sort out this bug. I backed up all of my apps, do a factory reset,and restore the app. In order to prevent google playstore to build up it's cache when downloading new apps, i use an apk leecher, transfer the apk to sdcard, and install from sdcard. Sometimes i have to use market fixer to link some installed apps to playstore. i preserved the cache for updates only.
not very pretty and i don't like this, but at least it worked.
Just verifying...You sound like you know what you are doing, but just in case...
Maybe you really are out of space... when you did apps2sd/Link2SD, did you actually partition the SD card with two partitions? Use that 32GB CL10 and make a 4gb partition (use the recovery formatter, since most align the partitions, don't use winblows/linux), then use Link2SD (my preference, since it's UI manageable, plus apps2sd didn't work for my rom anyhow) and click "Link" (not move to SD). Link moves the .apk, cache, and user data (if I recall correctly) to the "4GB" partition, but move-to-SD just moves user data to the larger USB mountable FAT partition, so this isn't going to move everything, plus it's not as flexible when mounting via USB. Good luck!
Thank you very much for reminding me. I did make 3 partitions which includes 2gb of sd-ext, 1 gb of linux swap, and the rest is fat32. on the sd-ext, i've symlinked data, cache, google play cache, system/app, and user/app partitions. there was still plenty of space left on it (more than 800mb at that time).

Gallery issue. Regardless of rom.

So, I recently flashed Omega 10, did a full wipe. Had Omega 8.1 prior. All of a sudden, Im getting "not enough space. free some up" etc. And this is after a fresh flash. So thinking it might be a bug, I wiped again, flashed 8.1 back on and behold same problem. The odd thing is, I can take photos fine, etc, boat load of storage, I just cant open gallery. Installed a 3rd party app called quickpics, that opens fine, but spams me with "cannot open database" messages.
Any idea?
Have tried just going into settings apps/all and wiping the cache for your gallery.
sounds like it may just need to be cleared out.
Yeh, in recovery when I flashed, I wiped SYSTEM, CACHE, DALVIK, BATTERY & DATA. Just finished putting the stock rom back on, and excatly the same issue.
not thorugh CWM......through settings.
you will not be wiping the cache partition of the phone you will be wiping the cache of the app.
and worse case have tried just removing the app, rebooting and placing it back.....it may fix that memory error upon reinstallation if the wipe of the Gallery Cache does not work.
I wiped cache/data of both Gallery and Media storage apps, same thing. Copied the APK for gallery, removed it with rom toolbox, and reinstalled, same thing.
currently restoring to my nandroid backup, see how we go.
Restoring nandroid did the trick.
Good deal, glad it worked out

[Q] Apps Remained after a full wipe

Something strange happened to my S3 after a simple reboot I noticed that some app have been removed so I decided to clean my phone on the way.
I made a full wipe + everything you can think of to clean, delete, format the phone but after I install the rom I can still see my apps in the application manager and I can't get rid of them even if I uninstall them through the application manager the come back after a restart.
I tried 2 different roms but it happens on both of them, both are xxDLIB .
How to fix that?
pls help me
AriHell said:
Something strange happened to my S3 after a simple reboot I noticed that some app have been removed so I decided to clean my phone on the way.
I made a full wipe + everything you can think of to clean, delete, format the phone but after I install the rom I can still see my apps in the application manager and I can't get rid of them even if I uninstall them through the application manager the come back after a restart.
I tried 2 different roms but it happens on both of them, both are xxDLIB .
How to fix that?
pls help me
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Try the SuperWipe from "Android Revolution HD" here --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1797334
Be careful, this will erase everything that is not on your external SD-card. Read the instruction first.
AriHell said:
Something strange happened to my S3 after a simple reboot I noticed that some app have been removed so I decided to clean my phone on the way.
I made a full wipe + everything you can think of to clean, delete, format the phone but after I install the rom I can still see my apps in the application manager and I can't get rid of them even if I uninstall them through the application manager the come back after a restart.
I tried 2 different roms but it happens on both of them, both are xxDLIB .
How to fix that?
pls help me
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Are the apps system apps perchance? A wipe of data WILL wipe all user installed apps, the full wipe script alluded to doesn't do anything that you can't do manually from recovery.
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So you did a full whipe but did you do also a factory reset?
AriHell said:
Something strange happened to my S3 after a simple reboot I noticed that some app have been removed so I decided to clean my phone on the way.
I made a full wipe + everything you can think of to clean, delete, format the phone but after I install the rom I can still see my apps in the application manager and I can't get rid of them even if I uninstall them through the application manager the come back after a restart.
I tried 2 different roms but it happens on both of them, both are xxDLIB .
How to fix that?
pls help me
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Sure the apps aren't part of the ROM. Depends on what the dev has cooked into it.
Sure you're doing a full wipe vs wiping caches only.
Could also be syncing to your Google account meaning when you launch play store it automatically detects your market links and reinstalls previously installed apps
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CWM Recovery mounts and storage FORMAT system cache data and preload .
That fails wipe internal sd card .
jje
explanation
I think I didn't explained my self right, these apps are "user" apps downloaded from Play store.
things I did before installing the rom:
1. factory reset from setting.
from cwm:
2. wipe data/factory reset
3. wipe cache partition
4. wipe dalvik-cache
5. wipe battery stats
5. format /cache
/system
/data
/preload
/sdcard
* also I removed the external sd.
but still I have these app "ghosts"
Then i suggest as per previous replies to the same question you are auto downloading from Google play after installing a rom .
jje
JJEgan said:
Then i suggest as per previous replies to the same question you are auto downloading from Google play after installing a rom .
jje
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I disabled wifi/data and sync when it ask for a wifi connection (at the openning screen of the new rom) so there is no way it somehow sync with play store.
you can see below what I mean by saying "ghosts"
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AriHell said:
I disabled wifi/data and sync when it ask for a wifi connection (at the openning screen of the new rom) so there is no way it somehow sync with play store.
you can see below what I mean by saying "ghosts"
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I wonder what kind of apps behaving so stubborn and weird. Mind sharing the apps name?
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Well.. I don't think it happening because of the app, any way here are some names (from the picture above)
google chrome
betterbatterystats
aide
sdtools
and many other
What rom are you using?
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I tried Omega, HyperGalaxy and WanamLite
Could possibly be a problem with your CWM installation or any dependencies such as ?busybox
Ok so I installed Samsung 4.1.1 stock rom and reinstalled CWM and afterwards install Omega rom and it worked!!!
Clean Rom Install
Many people don't exactly know what a Data Wipe / Factory reset is. NO it does not delete "all" your data on Internal SD-Card. It Deletes all you user data and settings and stuff, like it says it formats "system". For Example if you Full wipe you loose Whatsapp, but the Whatsapp folder on your internal SD-Card remains untouched, that means you can restore your Conversations with ease. This means you can cause a huge mess on your internal SD-Card over time. This is my way how to do a CLEAN install. Doing this prevents many unwanted issues like Bootloops, FC's and all those other nasty laggy ****.
1. Put new rom on EXTERNAL SD Card (if slot available)
2. Data Wipe / Factory Reset
3. Wipe Cache
4. Wipe Dalvik Cache
5. Format Internal SD card
6. Install Rom and enjoy
Keeping your personal Data on your external SD-Card is a good idea (pics, music, vids , docs ...)
[You can do this even if you don't have an ext. SD-Slot. After "cleaning" your device mount USB-Storage in CWM Recoery and you can connect to pc and pull over your rom. ]
And this is probably one of the best ways to do a clean install without aditional Scripts like superwipe or other "flashy" stuff. (DO NOT USE THOSE SCRIPTS UNLESS THEY ARE IN AN INSTALLATION GUIDE)
One addition to above format/preload as well .
jje

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