I just purchased an AT&T branded Titan for use on T Mobile here in the USA. I didn't do my research properly and I just assumed I would get at least 3G. It seems not. However all is not lost if I can just unlock it and use it on my trips back to Scotland.
If I unlock the AT&T Titan will I have any issues just popping a UK SIM in there? Does it run better on some providers?
Thanks
edderspcs said:
I just purchased an AT&T branded Titan for use on T Mobile here in the USA. I didn't do my research properly and I just assumed I would get at least 3G. It seems not. However all is not lost if I can just unlock it and use it on my trips back to Scotland.
If I unlock the AT&T Titan will I have any issues just popping a UK SIM in there? Does it run better on some providers?
Thanks
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You will need to check with the Carrier that you are going to use the Titan over there... and see which bands of HSDPA that they support. The UK Version of Titan seem to be supported 850/900/1900/2100 , but i don't think the AT&T version support 900 band tho. You will have to recheck.
Good Luck.
And yes, you need to get the SIM-Unlock code based on the IMEI of the phone and then you can insert any sim in and the phone will use it just fine as long as the carrier able to provide network for it.
Looks like you will only be able to use it on GPRS
UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+ tri-band (2100/1900/850 MHz) and quad band GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850/900/1800/1900 MHz) and LTE BC4/BC17
Thanks for the replies. It makes no difference to me what network I use .
I'm having a hard time understanding the differences.
If I look at this page it lists what my phone supports..
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_titan-4027.php
Looking at this it seems my specs match up with most major UK providers
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mobile_network_operators_of_Europe#United_Kingdom
Therefore shouldn't it work?
If it is limited to GPRS what are the limitations?
Thanks
Yep in theory it should, Just double checked and I posted specs for Titan2 oops
At&t Titan ie: Frequencies HSPA+/WCDMA 850/1900/2100 MHz and Quad-band GSM/GPRS/Edge 850/900/1900 MHz, Its missing 1800mhz for UK which basically means you cannot use T-mobile or Orange, But Vodafone or O2 or anything running 900mhz should be fine.
The 2G band list says "quad-band" but then only lists 3 bands. I'll bet that's a typo and that all 4 bands are supported.
I've used my unlocked AT&T Titan with local SIMs in numerous countries on 2100MHz 3G... works great.
I have at&t Titan from US in London with O2. Sometimes it woks fine on 3G sometimes doesn't work at all. I forced it to use only 2G and then it works fine.To force the phone Enter code ##3282# Then go to the Three blue dots on the right corner go to settings and in network type choose 2G or 3G depending on what you want.
Received my Titan 2 today from Across the pond, It's at&t branded but unlocked, It is working fine and shows 4G lol, I know it is just a 3G connection but no problems using it on O2, Had to manually input APN settings in cellular and that was it
Well that smile didn't last long, Can't send pic messages, Any ideas?
Hi AndyFZ1S have you tried the connection setup application from htc? Thats what i usedwhen i moved here and it worked fine. Still my 3g connection is poor or inexistant is most areas, i believe at&t phones are missing one band.
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^@andres22, Thanks & yes have tried connection set-up but it says the carrier is not in the database etc, 3G works fine I just cannot send or receive picture messages, There is no option to manually put in the settings either so am kind of stuck really,
Uhmmm funny that my setup apolication has O2 settings and yours not. Sorry man. I cant think of anything else.
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No problem, It may well be you have a different database on your at&t Titan compared to the at&t Titan2, Never mind, Hopefully there will be a way to sort it.
I'm having similar issue with Titan 2 using on T-Mobile US. MMS is the only issue. T-Mobile does carry Nokia 710 and HTC Radar. I wonder if there is a way to get settings from those phones.
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The only way I can think of doing it is by flashing either a Stock Titan2 ROM (if it exists) or a custom one, That way Connection set-up would have most of the carriers in its database and not just at&t, But that won't be possible without HSPL or any ROMs, Maybe HTC could do something their end to update connection set-up etc?
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Hi, Just purchased the hd2 T Mobile from USA. Which carriers can I use in Canada to activate this Phone? Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.
any of them(well, except any cdma only ones) but you will need an unlock code from online or from t mobile, and you won't get 3g
Thanks for the help samsamuel. I took it to one carrier and they told me it wouldn't work. The phone is unlocked.Why wouldn't I get the 3G.I want the plan that gives me internet mobile browsing. PS it was fido I took it to.
because fido uses 1900 for 3g, from what i've read, and the tmous uses 1700/2100 for 3g., and i think rogers uses 850/1900 and maybe 1900/2100 (just skimming google for this infofact is, though, that without the 1700 aws band,, no high speed data.
you will be able to get gprs and edge for browsing, but no 3g/hsdpa.
as to them saying it won't work, they're probably either making it up or meaning 3g
most canadian users fork out the extra for the telstra model if they want 3g.
Thanks. I guess this phone is useless to me, as I wanted to be able to access the internet without using the wifi.
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as I wanted to be able to access the internet
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you can, but only with gprs / edge speeds.
I had been considering buying an HD2 and trying to unlock it for use with an AT&T sim card for my current account. I knew that their networks were compatible, but I didn't realize that hsdpa was on different frequencies. I googled around a bit and it looks like AT&T uses 1900 mhz and Tmo uses 1700/2100. I can't verify if this info is correct ,but this could sure put a dent in my plans. Does anyone know for sure if an HD2 can be used on AT&T's 3g network?
there are several threads about how you can't. go read in the tmous specific section. plenty of confirmation that it doesn't.
3G Frequencies
Hi there!
I was wondering if there is a way to change those settings?? I have a T-Mo HD2, and maybe there is a way to make the phone work with the 3G technology in other frequencies besides the 1700 and 2100 MHz (I live in latin america, so it would have to use the 850Mhz frequency) Anyone please help me with this issue.
As one who unlocked a TMoUS HD2 to AT&T I can assure you that you will not get 3G anywhere in the US or Canada that I can find. On a bright note, it's a phone... With everyone else using 3G networks I find the Edge network to be utterly "unclogged" and find the speeds to be just fine for everything including streaming video.
PS: The phone was free but without a SIM card and I was an AT&T user - not to mention T-Mobile's network leaves a lot to be desired..
There is 3g service in Canada if you happen to be in an area where Wind Mobile is available. search Wind mobile coverage area.
We (family)have several cell phones I use the HD 2 on Edge and it doesn't bother me that its a little slower, actually when I did a quick check with my daughter on her 3g I hardly could tell the difference. I' m sure some will point out where I'm wrong. But I'm satisfied with edge because I enjoy the HD2.
Wind Mobile uses 1700/2100.
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I confirmed that the TMOUS Radar *is* capable of 3G on AT&T.
I unlocked it this morning and put in a prepaid AT&T SIM (GoPhone). HTC Connection Setup ran and a few minutes later I was on AT&T with 3G support. The phone recognizes the HSPA+ signal and lights up the indicators with the '4G' label.
The phone's box says it supports UMTS 1900 -- this fact is not listed in any other spec I've seen on-line for the device. That band is only one of the 2 AT&T use for UMTS, so if you are unlucky and have only 850 then 3G/4G probably won't work. Guess AT&T uses 1900 where I am.
Do you know of any way to tell which band at&t uses in various areas?
Sorry, I don't know of any way to know that. I am not an AT&T expert -- knowing whether the phone could be used w/ AT&T 3G was an academic exercise for me just to satisfy curiosity.
What did you use for unlock?
Wonder if it'll work, roaming on AT&T 3G, with a T-Mo US prepaid SIM...
- Sent from my HTC Radar 4G using the OMG XDA WTF WP7 BBQ App. =D
I got the unlock codes from T-Mobile.
[UPDATE 1]
Please regard 3G+ as H. I apologise for the stuff up.
The first option "Other than 3G/3G+" should also include H and that is basically G or E that I'm after there.
I am very aware that the Lumias should be at least 3G (unless your stuck with a bad carrier).
The purpose for this thread is to identify whether a particular ROM or the phone Model (ie. RM-801, RM-819)
make a difference regarding the network speed.
I am also identifying whether there is a difference between an RM-801 sold in Australia, Taiwan and HK as
I have purchased my handsets overseas.
Please supply the model (ie. RM-801, RM-819) as well as your ROM Region if known when posting.
I am asking because I've been trying to work out the difference in the Models.
My personal Experience:
Purchased 3 Nokia 800s
2 from HK and 1 from TW
None connect to 3G+/H (EVER) My Omnia 7 does.
What I've attempted so far:
Phone 1: Running Optus specific ROM for RM-801
Result: No 3G+/H
Phone 2: Running Australian ROM (not branded to carrier) for RM-819 I think.
Result: No 3G+/H
Phone 3: Unmodified.
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I have a H showing on Phone 2 using a RM-819 ROM. Since I'm not 100% sure what exact ROM I have used, i will investigate this "fix" using the third Nokia. Basically for some reason after using the Nokia Network Connection app, flicking from Optus to Virgin Mobile, restarting phone and flicking back to optus finally gave me the H symbol and verified the speed via ozspeedtest.com and mobilespeedtest.com.
I have attempted the same process on Phone 1 with RM-801 ROM and it actually caused the opposite! I shouldn't have touched it as connected via 3G but gave me awesome speeds (2.2Mbps). After performing the Nokia Network connection process as described above, it definitely slowed everything down! Down to 90kbps!
Lumia handsets do not show a 3G+. They will show a H when you are using HSDPA. Do your handsets only ever show 3G and never a H? You need to make sure the handsets you have support the 900 band to work with Optus in Australia. There is a bug where Telstra handsets do not show a H right now but dispite that they are using Telstra's NextG network still but all Optus handsets in Australia should show a H without any issues.
Here in Germany my unbranded device gets 3G as well as H.
G, 3G and H in Spain.
Thats what I said.... but there is no 3G+ simbol.
Thanks guys.
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Lumia handsets do not show a 3G+. They will show a H when you are using HSDPA. Do your handsets only ever show 3G and never a H? You need to make sure the handsets you have support the 900 band to work with Optus in Australia. There is a bug where Telstra handsets do not show a H right now but dispite that they are using Telstra's NextG network still but all Optus handsets in Australia should show a H without any issues.
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Yes, my handsets only ever show 3G, never the H. I have seen E but that is when connection is just poor. My Omnia 7 shows 3G+ and the Lumias never do.
These three phones were overseas models RM-801 (which is the same model that Optus supplies here) I have restored them to the OPTUS ROM using NaviFirm+ and Nokia Suite but still receive no H.
I get only E or H, no 3G symbol. Did you try restoring them to a rom made for a different region?
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Thats strange, I have a Telstra handset and while it only shows 3G I still get NextG coverage (easy to tell when I can still make calls from my work office but no one else on Optus or Voda can) and my work friend has an Optus one and it switches between 3G and H. I checked it again today when doing nothing it showed a 3G and when I went to a speed test app it went to H when downloading. Did you cut your own microsim from a standard SIM? have you tried a friends SIM card to see what happens?
believe it or not, I too experienced the same issue with a cyan lumia 800 unlocked from the UK, where even when I was downloading things, it would not change from 3G!!
I'm using it in sydney, australia on the TPG network, and while i was on 11451 firmware - not only would it not show an update to 12070 via zune, it would never show me H.
I took it to nokia care in parramatta to try and get it updated - see my last post here http://discussions.europe.nokia.com...800-1600-2487-8107-12070/td-p/1341093/page/15 (username cdayo - message 298 on page 15) - to get the full story on what happened there.
But basically after they flashed an unknown rom onto it (i'm assuming some aussie telco's one but it is fully unbranded so i'm not sure), it is now showing H!!!! Additionally, the carrier label used to say YES OPTUS, but after they flashed it to 12070 it now says TPG. Everything is working nicely.
P.S. you might want to change the poll to include a H option lol - if its possible
I've got an unbranded Cyan 800 from the UK and am using it with AT&T in Seattle. Depending on where I am, I've seen G, E, 3G, and H.
G and 3G appear when 2G and 3G signals are too weak. E and H appear when they're stronger.
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Thats strange, I have a Telstra handset and while it only shows 3G I still get NextG coverage (easy to tell when I can still make calls from my work office but no one else on Optus or Voda can) and my work friend has an Optus one and it switches between 3G and H. I checked it again today when doing nothing it showed a 3G and when I went to a speed test app it went to H when downloading. Did you cut your own microsim from a standard SIM? have you tried a friends SIM card to see what happens?
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The SIM is definitely from optus, no dodgy cutting
Regarding your comment on you getting perfect reception on Telstra v your friend's Optus, not surprised at all on that one OPTUS sucks for reception and I can't wait for the contracts to expire. But my optus rant aside, I am aware that H (or 3G+) should only show when you download, same happens on my Omnia 7 but the nokias don't show either even when I compare side by side.
I've never seen an H, just 3G and E. I just thought that the Lumia worked that way.
Telstra Branded Lumia 800 (RM-819)
Hi all
New to the WP7 scene! Love the look and feel of WP7.
I'm aware of the Telstra issues with it not showing H but only 3g but i'm having issues with the reception. I was using a HTC Sensation and was getting pretty much full reception but in the Lumia with Telstra's blue tick i'm only getting 3 or 4 bars. I also have a Motorola Defy which is also Telstra blue tick and it is always full reception.
Anyone know of a good speed test for network on WP7?
Cheers
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...Anyone know of a good speed test for network on WP7?
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Hi,
I use:
http://www.ozspeedtest.com/legacy-bandwidth-test/optus-speed-test/1/2
I'm disappointed. I have a RM-819. I have been all around town and I get 3G. Slow 3G, like iPhone 3G, always under 1 mbps. If I put my SIM in an unlocked HTC Radar (yes, a T-Mobile phone), it registers 4G and I get 5-7 mbps. My Lumia 900 gets solid LTE, but that's neither here nor there.
My question is, why can't the Lumia 800, supposedly designed for AT&T for the US market, keep up with the Radar? They support the same bands (T-Mobile doesn't tell you about the 850 support, but HTC documents confirm that it's there.) They have the same cpu/gpu/radio controller.
It sounds like other are getting faux-G speeds on their Lumia - are there specific APN settings that have to go in?
I was sitting here minding my own business when i switched on my lumia and i got the "H" connection on my RM-819. So i thought cool there has been an update for it so i rebooted to see if it was a permanent fix but unfortunately it reverted back to 3g after the reboot...
about 2 hours later i was playing on it again and it again popped up the "H" so this time i watched it and it lasted about 30 seconds and dropped back to 3g... and stayed that way since...
on telstra in Australia... weird...
update ....................
ok so today i got the "H" again and its staying on... wonder if telstra is getting ready for the tango update hope so!
I'm looking at buying a Nokia Lumia 800 from the UK locked on the O2 network.
I live in Perth, Australia.
I figure I can get it unlocked pretty easily. Will the UK version of the 800 work fine in Australia..? Any issues?
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I'm looking at buying a Nokia Lumia 800 from the UK locked on the O2 network.
I live in Perth, Australia.
I figure I can get it unlocked pretty easily. Will the UK version of the 800 work fine in Australia..? Any issues?
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Vodafone Australia uses the RM-819 model (850mhz). The UK model is RM-801 which uses the 900mhz band. The UK model would probably work, but not nearly as well as the RM-819.
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Vodafone Australia uses the RM-819 model (850mhz). The UK model is RM-801 which uses the 900mhz band. The UK model would probably work, but not nearly as well as the RM-819.
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Thanks for the info.
Is there an 'international' version of the 800, or just the RM-819 & RM-801?
Also, are there different version of the Lumia 900? I've read the U.S. version is configured for a faster data connection.
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Thanks for the info.
Is there an 'international' version of the 800, or just the RM-819 & RM-801?
Also, are there different version of the Lumia 900? I've read the U.S. version is configured for a faster data connection.
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There are only the RM-801/819 variants of the Lumia 800. No "international" version to speak of.
The US Lumia 900 is configured for LTE. The international version is configured for HSPA/HSPA+.
Hello all!!
I have a new Titan II and have unlocked it from AT&T. So now I use it on T-Mobile.
Here is my issue-I can not send or recieve picture messages.
I also want to get 4G more permanent.
If anyone can help, I'd appreciate it.
Thanks in advance to all.
I have found one other issue.
I can not tether/internet share the Titan II.
So, so far we have a total of 3 problems/issues.
1) Not able to send or receive picture messages.
2) Not able to 4G regularly.
3) Not able to tether/internet share.
So I am sure that someone here knows what to do or how to help me.
I really would appreciate it.
Thanks in advance for the help people.
I'd be happy to DONATE to someone if they help with the issues I am having.
Ok your at&t branded Titan 2 is meant to support frequencies : UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+ tri-band (2100/1900/850 MHz) and quad band GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850/900/1800/1900 MHz) and LTE BC4/BC17,
Now I don't know which Freq T-Mobile use in USA but you probably wont be able to use all its features (LTE + 3G) seeing as it's not meant to be used for T-mobile etc, As for Tethering I can only assume if it's not available then it would be down to at&t firmware and you may need to flash a stock ROM to enable everything, If you were to use an at&t sim then all would work including LTE, All in all it's alot of messing about and unfortunately Operators branding limitations do not help.
run HTC Connection Setup to fix MMS and data.
4G is determined by radio frequencies. AT&T 4G is incompatible with T-Mobile 4G; same with 3G.
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run HTC Connection Setup to fix MMS and data.
4G is determined by radio frequencies. AT&T 4G is incompatible with T-Mobile 4G; same with 3G.
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I'm trying to use a Titan 2 on Tmobile too. MMS doesnt work. with that app, HTC connection setup I get an error message that carrier doesn't exist in database.
Even changed apn to - epc.tmobile.com. still nothing
any help would be appreciated.
I have managed to get 3G working in UK on at&t branded unlocked Titan2 by manually changing APN but cannot send or receive picture messages, 3G works fine, Connection set-up doesn't have the carrier in database, Don't think there is a way round it until it becomes possible to flash a stock Titan2 ROM if one actually exists?
Andy
Thanks alot for the help or at least the insight.
I have updated the APN but still no change.
Not giving up tho. I am sure someone will fugure this out sooner or later.
Tried donating to you...but you have no donate button with in you profile.
If you send me a pm with your info I can get you something for your effort.
Same issue here. Except mines unlocked on Telus. No MMS, group text and of course tethering. HTC Connection also fails on mine.
Funny enough on my Titan 1 all of these work flawlessly on the same sim card and carrier.
I've contacted HTC directly to report the issue about a month or so ago and they claim to be unaware of it. They couldn't provide me a solution so I just said I'd hope that HTC would day fix the HTC Connection app to be supported properly on the Titan 2.
@R1ryda14. Thanks for offer of donation, No need, Just hope I helped.
I gave up and sold my Titan 2, HTC could not help and the conclusion I came to was because it was at&t branded there was no way to manually input the MMS settings seeing as the Connection set-up database only had settings for at&t, I did manage to get 3G working by manual input of APN, The only way to get around this issue was to install a stock ROM, Unfortunately stock ROMs for the Titan 2 do not exist, A real shame as it is a lovely handset and the camera is superb, I hope you do manage to find a solution or that a Stock ROM does eventually materialise
3G/4G on T-Mobile will only work in areas that use the 1900MHz PCS band. T-Mobile uses its 1700MHz AWS band for its 3G/4G services nationwide. They have begun refarming some old 2G spectrum in the 1900MHz PCS band for use on their 3G/4G network recently. The PCS band is the same one that AT&T uses and has included in the Titan II. This is why coverage would be sparse or non-existent on T-Mobile 3G/4G. It all depends on the area you live since their PCS network is only recently being refitted beginning this summer.
I got a Titan 2 too and using it with Vivo here in Brazil. No 4G since we don't have LTE yet, but I got my Internet Sharing working after a hard-reset (don't know why).
Could not set MMS too. HTC Connection also tells me that it does not recognize my Carrier.
My 1st device was a HD7, and I already owned a HTC Ultimate (the HTC Titan here) and in both devices the HTC Connection worked. I dunno why it will not work on Titan 2.
Evening all,
Just a bit of advice, I'm looking to upgrade from my g8x to the v60. As the european/international version is virtually impossible to find, I'm looking at the unlocked USA variants of this phone. Does anyone have this model in the UK and can confirm that it works on 3g/4g OK? I've found different sources stating that some of the bands aren't present in the USA variants - not bothered about 5g, just as long as I can get 3 and 4g on o2 it's fine. Also tried frequency checker but it doesn't seem to list the v60 on there for some reason...
OK so I've just come across the website Kimovil, this seems to be more helpful - looks like the only one that is going to be any use is the Canadian variant of the phone, the USA versions from t mobile/at+t have most of the bands missing for use in the UK. Explains why they go for far less online!
Interesting have you got a link to that site or have a link of where to buy one that will be good for UK
Also looking to buy a v60 to use on the UK
Kimovil.com
Not really found anything other than links for the USA versions of the phone, they don't seem to have the correct bands for most of the UK networks. I'm just watching eBay and seeing what comes up...
I bought an ATT model, unlocked from Ebay. I live in The Netherlands and my provider, Simyo, uses the KPN network with 800mhz (band 20) and 1800mhz (band 3) for 4G/LTE. After inserting my sim everything worked right away. Calls, data, no problems at all. My provider does not support 5G yet
Edit: be aware that you will not receive updates like android 11 (if on 10) or security updates on the V600AM.
I bought the V600AM, I'm in the UK and I can confirm that it works with O2. The only issue is that phone will switch to 2G when making voice calls,soon after hang up it will switch back to 4G LTE.
poemadevil said:
I bought an ATT model, unlocked from Ebay. I live in The Netherlands and my provider, Simyo, uses the KPN network with 800mhz (band 20) and 1800mhz (band 3) for 4G/LTE. After inserting my sim everything worked right away. Calls, data, no problems at all. My provider does not support 5G yet
Edit: be aware that you will not receive updates like android 11 (if on 10) or security updates on the V600AM.
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OK that's useful to know, I'm still not sure about 3g support as where I live in the depths of rural Cornwall we seem to struggle a bit with 4g - it's OK when I'm outside but indoors tends to drop back to 3g, I can use wifi at least. Thanks for the info though
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I bought the V600AM, I'm in the UK and I can confirm that it works with O2. The only issue is that phone will switch to 2G when making voice calls,soon after hang up it will switch back to 4G LTE.
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Yeah, the 3g coverage is a thing for me as I tend to only get 4g when outside, it reverts to 3g indoors and I think that may be an issue for me with this phone as it needs to be a daily driver - as far as I can see the USA variants don't support the right bands for UK use....
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Yeah, the 3g coverage is a thing for me as I tend to only get 4g when outside, it reverts to 3g indoors and I think that may be an issue for me with this phone as it needs to be a daily driver - as far as I can see the USA variants don't support the right bands for UK use....
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You could force the phone to be on "LTE Only" with an app from Gstore,but then you won't be able to receive and make voice calls. Not ideal, but considering this phone is from a US network,it will never be 100% compatible with UK Networks. If only someone would find a solution to root it!!!
Which bands use for UK?
Calls will be via 3g if your region coverage that bands.
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Which bands use for UK?
Calls will be via 3g if your region coverage that bands.
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Yes its supported, before buying ask seller to upgrade to android 11.