Hello all!!
I have a new Titan II and have unlocked it from AT&T. So now I use it on T-Mobile.
Here is my issue-I can not send or recieve picture messages.
I also want to get 4G more permanent.
If anyone can help, I'd appreciate it.
Thanks in advance to all.
I have found one other issue.
I can not tether/internet share the Titan II.
So, so far we have a total of 3 problems/issues.
1) Not able to send or receive picture messages.
2) Not able to 4G regularly.
3) Not able to tether/internet share.
So I am sure that someone here knows what to do or how to help me.
I really would appreciate it.
Thanks in advance for the help people.
I'd be happy to DONATE to someone if they help with the issues I am having.
Ok your at&t branded Titan 2 is meant to support frequencies : UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+ tri-band (2100/1900/850 MHz) and quad band GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850/900/1800/1900 MHz) and LTE BC4/BC17,
Now I don't know which Freq T-Mobile use in USA but you probably wont be able to use all its features (LTE + 3G) seeing as it's not meant to be used for T-mobile etc, As for Tethering I can only assume if it's not available then it would be down to at&t firmware and you may need to flash a stock ROM to enable everything, If you were to use an at&t sim then all would work including LTE, All in all it's alot of messing about and unfortunately Operators branding limitations do not help.
run HTC Connection Setup to fix MMS and data.
4G is determined by radio frequencies. AT&T 4G is incompatible with T-Mobile 4G; same with 3G.
sh4d0w86 said:
run HTC Connection Setup to fix MMS and data.
4G is determined by radio frequencies. AT&T 4G is incompatible with T-Mobile 4G; same with 3G.
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I'm trying to use a Titan 2 on Tmobile too. MMS doesnt work. with that app, HTC connection setup I get an error message that carrier doesn't exist in database.
Even changed apn to - epc.tmobile.com. still nothing
any help would be appreciated.
I have managed to get 3G working in UK on at&t branded unlocked Titan2 by manually changing APN but cannot send or receive picture messages, 3G works fine, Connection set-up doesn't have the carrier in database, Don't think there is a way round it until it becomes possible to flash a stock Titan2 ROM if one actually exists?
Andy
Thanks alot for the help or at least the insight.
I have updated the APN but still no change.
Not giving up tho. I am sure someone will fugure this out sooner or later.
Tried donating to you...but you have no donate button with in you profile.
If you send me a pm with your info I can get you something for your effort.
Same issue here. Except mines unlocked on Telus. No MMS, group text and of course tethering. HTC Connection also fails on mine.
Funny enough on my Titan 1 all of these work flawlessly on the same sim card and carrier.
I've contacted HTC directly to report the issue about a month or so ago and they claim to be unaware of it. They couldn't provide me a solution so I just said I'd hope that HTC would day fix the HTC Connection app to be supported properly on the Titan 2.
@R1ryda14. Thanks for offer of donation, No need, Just hope I helped.
I gave up and sold my Titan 2, HTC could not help and the conclusion I came to was because it was at&t branded there was no way to manually input the MMS settings seeing as the Connection set-up database only had settings for at&t, I did manage to get 3G working by manual input of APN, The only way to get around this issue was to install a stock ROM, Unfortunately stock ROMs for the Titan 2 do not exist, A real shame as it is a lovely handset and the camera is superb, I hope you do manage to find a solution or that a Stock ROM does eventually materialise
3G/4G on T-Mobile will only work in areas that use the 1900MHz PCS band. T-Mobile uses its 1700MHz AWS band for its 3G/4G services nationwide. They have begun refarming some old 2G spectrum in the 1900MHz PCS band for use on their 3G/4G network recently. The PCS band is the same one that AT&T uses and has included in the Titan II. This is why coverage would be sparse or non-existent on T-Mobile 3G/4G. It all depends on the area you live since their PCS network is only recently being refitted beginning this summer.
I got a Titan 2 too and using it with Vivo here in Brazil. No 4G since we don't have LTE yet, but I got my Internet Sharing working after a hard-reset (don't know why).
Could not set MMS too. HTC Connection also tells me that it does not recognize my Carrier.
My 1st device was a HD7, and I already owned a HTC Ultimate (the HTC Titan here) and in both devices the HTC Connection worked. I dunno why it will not work on Titan 2.
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So I purchased a UK unlocked Touch Pro and had it shipped to the US. While I hope there will be an ATT radio rom flash in the future, I have a quick question for the veterans out there:
On the Touch Pro, under the Phone Band settings, you can select "GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)"
When I do this all I receive is Edge on ATT, but aren't the UMTS bands correct already for ATT under this setting?
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So I purchased a UK unlocked Touch Pro and had it shipped to the US. While I hope there will be an ATT radio rom flash in the future, I have a quick question for the veterans out there:
On the Touch Pro, under the Phone Band settings, you can select "GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)"
When I do this all I receive is Edge on ATT, but aren't the UMTS bands correct already for ATT under this setting?
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There are several threads on this topic already...Here's one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410945
Thanks, I appreciate the reply, but I had read through that thread. I understand that the device is likely in need of a reprogrammed ROM to activate the hardware because at the end of the day it is not working. My question is specifically if the phone setting is allowing me to select the two ATT UMTS bands already why wouldn't I get 3G speed?
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Thanks, I appreciate the reply, but I had read through that thread. I understand that the device is likely in need of a reprogrammed ROM to activate the hardware because at the end of the day it is not working. My question is specifically if the phone setting is allowing me to select the two ATT UMTS bands already why wouldn't I get 3G speed?
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I have the UK version of the phone as well and I have the same issue. I have selected the right bands for both UMTS and GSM but all I get is EDGE. The reason for this is either a hardware limitation (no radio antenna to support 850/1900 UMTS bands (let's hope not) or the factory installed radio firmware does not include those bands or all those da#@ iPhone 3G users are hogging all the UMTS bandwidth . Hopefully all we need is to flash a new radio or ROM to unlock these bands. Just because you can select this band in phone settings does not mean the radio or hardware support it.
I guess I am crossing my fingers along with you . Thanks!
See my thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=418000
Even though this is for T-Mobile im sure if tmo gets unlocked att will to. Watch that and post there if someone cracks it they will post on that thread.
I have a question for the guys only getting EDGE when they have the correct bands set.......do you have a 3G enabled SIM card? (aka a USIM, some networks require you use one for the 3G to be utilised correctly).
Hi, in answer to your question, yes I have a 3G compatible SIM. I literally plucked it out of my TyTN 2/ TILT and put it in to the Touch Pro. The Touch Pro automatically found the ATT network, and when I went in to check bands I realized that there was an option for the US UMTS bands. I am guessing that others have been right when they have stated that just because there is a menu option it doesn't mean the radios are properly enabled.
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Hi, in answer to your question, yes I have a 3G compatible SIM. I literally plucked it out of my TyTN 2/ TILT and put it in to the Touch Pro. The Touch Pro automatically found the ATT network, and when I went in to check bands I realized that there was an option for the US UMTS bands. I am guessing that others have been right when they have stated that just because there is a menu option it doesn't mean the radios are properly enabled.
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So currently you are using a HTC branded Raphael? Could you post your ROM/Radio details? (device info in settings/system) Also your ROM build (settings/system->about)?
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So currently you are using a HTC branded Raphael? Could you post your ROM/Radio details? (device info in settings/system) Also your ROM build (settings/system->about)?
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I have a 3G enabled SIM, been using it with the Kaiser for the past year with good 3G reception. I now have the HTC branded Raph (UK version) with no 3G reception, only EDGE. Here's the info on my ROM/Radio:
ROM: 1.90.405.1 WWE (8/1/08)
Build: 19965.1.2.3
Radio: 1.02.25.19
OK so it seems the only radios actually in these Raphaels at the moment are all 1.02.25.19, once we have a decent way to flash a different radio stack to it we can see if it makes any difference both in the bands available and some of the reception issues we are seeing so far.
I'm not an expert in this area at all, far from it, but but was reading Black's post about his AT&T model and he has 1.01.25.16. Is this what you're going to flash it to once the HardSPL is completed given that you know his radio supports AT&T 3G?
I'm trying to keep up...
Has anybody heard an ETA for Hardspl? I know they where testing it. But any rumors on a timeframe?
My new UK Touch Pro (radio ver 1.02.25.19) is exhibiting this same behavior on AT&T... I have tried all combinations of those dropdowns under phone options without any luck. It does seem very strange that HTC put the US 3G bands in the band dropdown, but included radio software that doesn't support it...
... Why would HTC bother removing hardware supported bands in the software?
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My new UK Touch Pro (radio ver 1.02.25.19) is exhibiting this same behavior on AT&T... I have tried all combinations of those dropdowns under phone options without any luck. It does seem very strange that HTC put the US 3G bands in the band dropdown, but included radio software that doesn't support it...
... Why would HTC bother removing hardware supported bands in the software?
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Because they couldn't get it working well enough in time for the release date, I guess. Similar to what appears to have been the case with the Diamond. The US isn't their main concern at the moment, so delaying a US-compatible version for now in or der to get it to the rest of the world on time.
Either that or it's deliberate act to slow down the grey imports until they do a proper US release in hand with the local carriers.
If AT&T doesn't want to subsidize the Pro/Diamond, HTC doesn't really have to worry about putting in 1900 support. And honestly, AT&T is too busy with the iPhone 3G to care about HTC.
On the other hand, I'm sure HTC is very interested in getting in on T-mo 3G (1700/2100). By downplaying 1900 (which is being eaten up by the iPhone, anyway), HTC can gear up for the fresh 1700/2100 band. Paired with Android, HTC could potentially gain a big chunk of US 3G networks.
I'm a touch pro user in Canada on the Rogers network. I too hope that HTC releases a radio that allows 3g network access. I don't think its a hardware limitation because it wouldn't really make sense to make two versions of the same phone just to disable parts of the radio.
I disagree with the statement that AT&T is too busy with the iPhone 3G to care about the Touch Pro. The fact is that the target audience for the two phones are entirely different and that a considerable amount of AT&T corporate customers still require their employees to use PPC based phones (even if the iPhone 3G supports email push).
Corporate standards don't usually move as quickly as they should, so of course AT&T is interested in extracting more money from customers that purchased a Tilt over the past 8 months and want to upgrade, but are not allowed to use an iPhone.
If HTC removed support because they were unable to get the software functioning properly, I can live with that. EDGE for a few months while HTC readies a new radio software package is fine... EDGE while HTC readies new hardware is not.
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If AT&T doesn't want to subsidize the Pro/Diamond, HTC doesn't really have to worry about putting in 1900 support. And honestly, AT&T is too busy with the iPhone 3G to care about HTC.
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If AT&T weren't interesting in pushing the Touch Pro, HTC wouldn't have went to the trouble and expense of making a specific hardware revision (PTT button) for them. That's not something HTC are gonna do just for the hell of it on a quiet Sunday afternoon.
Maybe I didn't read the thread well enough but did you try and flash the AT&T ROM that was posted? Maybe that might work!
Hi I am looking into getting a Hero. I was wondering what version of the Hero would work with the US 3G network on TMobile or AT&T. I have both services but would prefer to use this on TMobile. And how hard is it to get the phone working on the US carriers?
No 3G on both networks; EDGE only. Take a SIM, put it into the phone, voila.
Edit: I apologize for my bluntness. It's just this question has been asked ten thousand times too many :[
Not quite correct!
The Telus Hero (available in Canada) uses the correct bands for AT&T. You are still SOL on T-Mobile US though!
Regards,
Dave
Hi, Just purchased the hd2 T Mobile from USA. Which carriers can I use in Canada to activate this Phone? Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.
any of them(well, except any cdma only ones) but you will need an unlock code from online or from t mobile, and you won't get 3g
Thanks for the help samsamuel. I took it to one carrier and they told me it wouldn't work. The phone is unlocked.Why wouldn't I get the 3G.I want the plan that gives me internet mobile browsing. PS it was fido I took it to.
because fido uses 1900 for 3g, from what i've read, and the tmous uses 1700/2100 for 3g., and i think rogers uses 850/1900 and maybe 1900/2100 (just skimming google for this infofact is, though, that without the 1700 aws band,, no high speed data.
you will be able to get gprs and edge for browsing, but no 3g/hsdpa.
as to them saying it won't work, they're probably either making it up or meaning 3g
most canadian users fork out the extra for the telstra model if they want 3g.
Thanks. I guess this phone is useless to me, as I wanted to be able to access the internet without using the wifi.
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as I wanted to be able to access the internet
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you can, but only with gprs / edge speeds.
I had been considering buying an HD2 and trying to unlock it for use with an AT&T sim card for my current account. I knew that their networks were compatible, but I didn't realize that hsdpa was on different frequencies. I googled around a bit and it looks like AT&T uses 1900 mhz and Tmo uses 1700/2100. I can't verify if this info is correct ,but this could sure put a dent in my plans. Does anyone know for sure if an HD2 can be used on AT&T's 3g network?
there are several threads about how you can't. go read in the tmous specific section. plenty of confirmation that it doesn't.
3G Frequencies
Hi there!
I was wondering if there is a way to change those settings?? I have a T-Mo HD2, and maybe there is a way to make the phone work with the 3G technology in other frequencies besides the 1700 and 2100 MHz (I live in latin america, so it would have to use the 850Mhz frequency) Anyone please help me with this issue.
As one who unlocked a TMoUS HD2 to AT&T I can assure you that you will not get 3G anywhere in the US or Canada that I can find. On a bright note, it's a phone... With everyone else using 3G networks I find the Edge network to be utterly "unclogged" and find the speeds to be just fine for everything including streaming video.
PS: The phone was free but without a SIM card and I was an AT&T user - not to mention T-Mobile's network leaves a lot to be desired..
There is 3g service in Canada if you happen to be in an area where Wind Mobile is available. search Wind mobile coverage area.
We (family)have several cell phones I use the HD 2 on Edge and it doesn't bother me that its a little slower, actually when I did a quick check with my daughter on her 3g I hardly could tell the difference. I' m sure some will point out where I'm wrong. But I'm satisfied with edge because I enjoy the HD2.
Wind Mobile uses 1700/2100.
My AT&T Atrix is on its way to me in Canada. While I wait, just wondering if those in Canada who have it - are you equally limited on the uplink speeds? I'm following the story on Engadget etc but it's not clear if the limitation is on the handset or the AT&T switches?
Theoretically the Bell version won't have this limitation (or will it?).
Thanks
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mickliq said:
My AT&T Atrix is on its way to me in Canada. While I wait, just wondering if those in Canada who have it - are you equally limited on the uplink speeds? I'm following the story on Engadget etc but it's not clear if the limitation is on the handset or the AT&T switches?
Theoretically the Bell version won't have this limitation (or will it?).
Thanks
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I'm on Rogers, typically on the UTMS band. I get anywhere from 5-7Mbps download, but definately have not seen more than 400Kbps on the uplink.
I've done some testing on the Fido (Rogers) network and am limited to about 380kbps for upload with my AT&T matrix. Using my wife's iPhone on the same network gets me about 1.5Mbps upload speeds.
Upload speeds have definitely been limited on the AT&T Matrix! It remains to be seen if that is the case with the Bell version.
I'm having trouble with my Atrix connecting to the Rogers network. I get phone calls and texts, but can't use the data network. My WiFi is also acting very sporadic.
Has anyone else had an issue like this?
Problem solved. I didn't know I had to manually enter the Rogers APN information.
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Problem solved. I didn't know I had to manually enter the Rogers APN information.
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I am having the same problem. I picked up my Atrix, Bell Version, from Wireless wave yesterday and unlocked it. Like you said I can receive phone calls and texts but can't connect to the network. Could you fill me in on what you did exactly to solve this?
I don't know the APN information you are referring to.
Never mind. I googled Rogers APN info. and found it and now I have it working.
Thanks anyway!
Can those with the Bell version comment if you get EDGE data when HSPA isn't available? I know the Telus Desire had EDGE blocked (because Bell/Telus network doesn't support EDGE data) but I don't want to be limited to EDGE on Rogers and when on other International networks. I'm assuming it's NOT blocked because it looks like it has the same firmware (more or less) as the AT&T version which would have to support EDGE.
I just purchased an AT&T branded Titan for use on T Mobile here in the USA. I didn't do my research properly and I just assumed I would get at least 3G. It seems not. However all is not lost if I can just unlock it and use it on my trips back to Scotland.
If I unlock the AT&T Titan will I have any issues just popping a UK SIM in there? Does it run better on some providers?
Thanks
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I just purchased an AT&T branded Titan for use on T Mobile here in the USA. I didn't do my research properly and I just assumed I would get at least 3G. It seems not. However all is not lost if I can just unlock it and use it on my trips back to Scotland.
If I unlock the AT&T Titan will I have any issues just popping a UK SIM in there? Does it run better on some providers?
Thanks
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You will need to check with the Carrier that you are going to use the Titan over there... and see which bands of HSDPA that they support. The UK Version of Titan seem to be supported 850/900/1900/2100 , but i don't think the AT&T version support 900 band tho. You will have to recheck.
Good Luck.
And yes, you need to get the SIM-Unlock code based on the IMEI of the phone and then you can insert any sim in and the phone will use it just fine as long as the carrier able to provide network for it.
Looks like you will only be able to use it on GPRS
UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+ tri-band (2100/1900/850 MHz) and quad band GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850/900/1800/1900 MHz) and LTE BC4/BC17
Thanks for the replies. It makes no difference to me what network I use .
I'm having a hard time understanding the differences.
If I look at this page it lists what my phone supports..
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_titan-4027.php
Looking at this it seems my specs match up with most major UK providers
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mobile_network_operators_of_Europe#United_Kingdom
Therefore shouldn't it work?
If it is limited to GPRS what are the limitations?
Thanks
Yep in theory it should, Just double checked and I posted specs for Titan2 oops
At&t Titan ie: Frequencies HSPA+/WCDMA 850/1900/2100 MHz and Quad-band GSM/GPRS/Edge 850/900/1900 MHz, Its missing 1800mhz for UK which basically means you cannot use T-mobile or Orange, But Vodafone or O2 or anything running 900mhz should be fine.
The 2G band list says "quad-band" but then only lists 3 bands. I'll bet that's a typo and that all 4 bands are supported.
I've used my unlocked AT&T Titan with local SIMs in numerous countries on 2100MHz 3G... works great.
I have at&t Titan from US in London with O2. Sometimes it woks fine on 3G sometimes doesn't work at all. I forced it to use only 2G and then it works fine.To force the phone Enter code ##3282# Then go to the Three blue dots on the right corner go to settings and in network type choose 2G or 3G depending on what you want.
Received my Titan 2 today from Across the pond, It's at&t branded but unlocked, It is working fine and shows 4G lol, I know it is just a 3G connection but no problems using it on O2, Had to manually input APN settings in cellular and that was it
Well that smile didn't last long, Can't send pic messages, Any ideas?
Hi AndyFZ1S have you tried the connection setup application from htc? Thats what i usedwhen i moved here and it worked fine. Still my 3g connection is poor or inexistant is most areas, i believe at&t phones are missing one band.
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^@andres22, Thanks & yes have tried connection set-up but it says the carrier is not in the database etc, 3G works fine I just cannot send or receive picture messages, There is no option to manually put in the settings either so am kind of stuck really,
Uhmmm funny that my setup apolication has O2 settings and yours not. Sorry man. I cant think of anything else.
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No problem, It may well be you have a different database on your at&t Titan compared to the at&t Titan2, Never mind, Hopefully there will be a way to sort it.
I'm having similar issue with Titan 2 using on T-Mobile US. MMS is the only issue. T-Mobile does carry Nokia 710 and HTC Radar. I wonder if there is a way to get settings from those phones.
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The only way I can think of doing it is by flashing either a Stock Titan2 ROM (if it exists) or a custom one, That way Connection set-up would have most of the carriers in its database and not just at&t, But that won't be possible without HSPL or any ROMs, Maybe HTC could do something their end to update connection set-up etc?