My AT&T Atrix is on its way to me in Canada. While I wait, just wondering if those in Canada who have it - are you equally limited on the uplink speeds? I'm following the story on Engadget etc but it's not clear if the limitation is on the handset or the AT&T switches?
Theoretically the Bell version won't have this limitation (or will it?).
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mickliq said:
My AT&T Atrix is on its way to me in Canada. While I wait, just wondering if those in Canada who have it - are you equally limited on the uplink speeds? I'm following the story on Engadget etc but it's not clear if the limitation is on the handset or the AT&T switches?
Theoretically the Bell version won't have this limitation (or will it?).
Thanks
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I'm on Rogers, typically on the UTMS band. I get anywhere from 5-7Mbps download, but definately have not seen more than 400Kbps on the uplink.
I've done some testing on the Fido (Rogers) network and am limited to about 380kbps for upload with my AT&T matrix. Using my wife's iPhone on the same network gets me about 1.5Mbps upload speeds.
Upload speeds have definitely been limited on the AT&T Matrix! It remains to be seen if that is the case with the Bell version.
I'm having trouble with my Atrix connecting to the Rogers network. I get phone calls and texts, but can't use the data network. My WiFi is also acting very sporadic.
Has anyone else had an issue like this?
Problem solved. I didn't know I had to manually enter the Rogers APN information.
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Problem solved. I didn't know I had to manually enter the Rogers APN information.
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I am having the same problem. I picked up my Atrix, Bell Version, from Wireless wave yesterday and unlocked it. Like you said I can receive phone calls and texts but can't connect to the network. Could you fill me in on what you did exactly to solve this?
I don't know the APN information you are referring to.
Never mind. I googled Rogers APN info. and found it and now I have it working.
Thanks anyway!
Can those with the Bell version comment if you get EDGE data when HSPA isn't available? I know the Telus Desire had EDGE blocked (because Bell/Telus network doesn't support EDGE data) but I don't want to be limited to EDGE on Rogers and when on other International networks. I'm assuming it's NOT blocked because it looks like it has the same firmware (more or less) as the AT&T version which would have to support EDGE.
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Hi, Just purchased the hd2 T Mobile from USA. Which carriers can I use in Canada to activate this Phone? Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.
any of them(well, except any cdma only ones) but you will need an unlock code from online or from t mobile, and you won't get 3g
Thanks for the help samsamuel. I took it to one carrier and they told me it wouldn't work. The phone is unlocked.Why wouldn't I get the 3G.I want the plan that gives me internet mobile browsing. PS it was fido I took it to.
because fido uses 1900 for 3g, from what i've read, and the tmous uses 1700/2100 for 3g., and i think rogers uses 850/1900 and maybe 1900/2100 (just skimming google for this infofact is, though, that without the 1700 aws band,, no high speed data.
you will be able to get gprs and edge for browsing, but no 3g/hsdpa.
as to them saying it won't work, they're probably either making it up or meaning 3g
most canadian users fork out the extra for the telstra model if they want 3g.
Thanks. I guess this phone is useless to me, as I wanted to be able to access the internet without using the wifi.
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as I wanted to be able to access the internet
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you can, but only with gprs / edge speeds.
I had been considering buying an HD2 and trying to unlock it for use with an AT&T sim card for my current account. I knew that their networks were compatible, but I didn't realize that hsdpa was on different frequencies. I googled around a bit and it looks like AT&T uses 1900 mhz and Tmo uses 1700/2100. I can't verify if this info is correct ,but this could sure put a dent in my plans. Does anyone know for sure if an HD2 can be used on AT&T's 3g network?
there are several threads about how you can't. go read in the tmous specific section. plenty of confirmation that it doesn't.
3G Frequencies
Hi there!
I was wondering if there is a way to change those settings?? I have a T-Mo HD2, and maybe there is a way to make the phone work with the 3G technology in other frequencies besides the 1700 and 2100 MHz (I live in latin america, so it would have to use the 850Mhz frequency) Anyone please help me with this issue.
As one who unlocked a TMoUS HD2 to AT&T I can assure you that you will not get 3G anywhere in the US or Canada that I can find. On a bright note, it's a phone... With everyone else using 3G networks I find the Edge network to be utterly "unclogged" and find the speeds to be just fine for everything including streaming video.
PS: The phone was free but without a SIM card and I was an AT&T user - not to mention T-Mobile's network leaves a lot to be desired..
There is 3g service in Canada if you happen to be in an area where Wind Mobile is available. search Wind mobile coverage area.
We (family)have several cell phones I use the HD 2 on Edge and it doesn't bother me that its a little slower, actually when I did a quick check with my daughter on her 3g I hardly could tell the difference. I' m sure some will point out where I'm wrong. But I'm satisfied with edge because I enjoy the HD2.
Wind Mobile uses 1700/2100.
I'm thinking about picking one up for review. I'm on T-Mobile and I know the phones come unlocked, but I want to be sure there aren't any hidden surprises or anything like that. If I put in a T-Mobile USA sim card, am I guaranteed to get Edge signal?
Where did you find out that this phone will come unlocked on T-Mobile?
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Where did you find out that this phone will come unlocked on T-Mobile?
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He never said that.
He asked if the unlocked i9100 will at least get edge on tmobile network.
good question..wonder if anybody will get it
I think most of the world uses the same frequencies for UMTS EDGE, so yes... an international Galaxy S II should work on T-mobile with EDGE, though you will have to program all of the tower/apn data into the phone manually to get everything to work
Probably not worth extra cost and effort to get a phone which will always be slow due to frequency mis-match.
It would only work on 2g for T-mobile USA.
I'll enjoy the G2X for now and then switch to the SGS2 when it get's to T-Mobile.
http://www.tmonews.com/2011/04/t-mobile-to-carry-samsung-galaxy-s-2/
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I'll enjoy the G2X for now and then switch to the SGS2 when it get's to T-Mobile.
http://www.tmonews.com/2011/04/t-mobile-to-carry-samsung-galaxy-s-2/
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You made my day. Thank you so much.
joackie27 said:
I'll enjoy the G2X for now and then switch to the SGS2 when it get's to T-Mobile.
http://www.tmonews.com/2011/04/t-mobile-to-carry-samsung-galaxy-s-2/
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I tried, and failed. Stupid battery.
I'm trying the Sensation or SGS2 first, whichever one reaches them first.
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I tried, and failed. Stupid battery.
I'm trying the Sensation or SGS2 first, whichever one reaches them first.
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I also tried and failed. Stupid screen. Waiting for sgs2 now. The tilt zoom and etc look awesome.
Bump, still wondering if ant T-Mobile users got the phone yet.
I've placed an order with Handtec, but thanks to a long back-and-forth security process I have to wait for next weeks batch of devices (ugh).
I'm assuming 2g will work fine - I can't think of any reason why it wouldn't. I've bought international phones for use on T-mo back in the pre-3g days, which in a way I'm still stuck in. Rural Iowa is not exactly blanketed in 3g...
Off-topic.
http://www.bgr.com/2011/05/05/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-passes-fcc-with-att-3g-bands/
GT-I9020T (Nexus S) - T-Mobile
GT-I9020A (Nexus S) - ATT
If you are to follow the naming convention above, then this new phone that passed the FCC should be for T-Mobile.
GT-I9100T (GS2) - T-Mobile
it will work on 2g but nothing else until the version that supports tmobiles AWS 3g/4g bands os released. im thinking about pulling the trigger anyways
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I'm thinking about picking one up for review. I'm on T-Mobile and I know the phones come unlocked, but I want to be sure there aren't any hidden surprises or anything like that. If I put in a T-Mobile USA sim card, am I guaranteed to get Edge signal?
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3G/4G will not work as they use 1700/2100 instead of 850/1900
you'll only get EDGE/2G
Hi I have a SGS2 on tmobile USA. Here are the issues. I phone is ASIA version rooted.
Tried a few mods didnt like it much.
Big issue is the phone defaults to GSM (2g) and the only other option on the phone is WCDMA. On tmobile it doesnt show edge or HSPA so I can connect for faster speeds.
I went to the tmob store the guy said the firmware needs to be updated but samsung doesnt have anything new.
I am hoping to download stock mod from say europe or canada that enables 4G to see if itll work on tmob. I called tmob they said they cant help as they dont support the phone! i asked for the bands that tmob uses 3G/4G on ( they refused to give it to me)
Tmob came in late in the game for 3g/4g so im not sure if they are on some diff bands that the phone cant catch. although i have not tried inserting an Att sim in it to see if it will get 4g speeds.
if anyone knows of any other options please let me know at this point im paying for 4G speeds on tmob but getting 2G.
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Hi I have a SGS2 on tmobile USA. Here are the issues. I phone is ASIA version rooted.
Tried a few mods didnt like it much.
Big issue is the phone defaults to GSM (2g) and the only other option on the phone is WCDMA. On tmobile it doesnt show edge or HSPA so I can connect for faster speeds.
I went to the tmob store the guy said the firmware needs to be updated but samsung doesnt have anything new.
I am hoping to download stock mod from say europe or canada that enables 4G to see if itll work on tmob. I called tmob they said they cant help as they dont support the phone! i asked for the bands that tmob uses 3G/4G on ( they refused to give it to me)
Tmob came in late in the game for 3g/4g so im not sure if they are on some diff bands that the phone cant catch. although i have not tried inserting an Att sim in it to see if it will get 4g speeds.
if anyone knows of any other options please let me know at this point im paying for 4G speeds on tmob but getting 2G.
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Dude, the GS2 doesn't support T-mobile bands. Therefore you'll only get EDGE speed on that phone until you get their Variant or switch to AT&T.
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Hi I have a SGS2 on tmobile USA. Here are the issues. I phone is ASIA version rooted.
Tried a few mods didnt like it much.
Big issue is the phone defaults to GSM (2g) and the only other option on the phone is WCDMA. On tmobile it doesnt show edge or HSPA so I can connect for faster speeds.
I went to the tmob store the guy said the firmware needs to be updated but samsung doesnt have anything new.
I am hoping to download stock mod from say europe or canada that enables 4G to see if itll work on tmob. I called tmob they said they cant help as they dont support the phone! i asked for the bands that tmob uses 3G/4G on ( they refused to give it to me)
Tmob came in late in the game for 3g/4g so im not sure if they are on some diff bands that the phone cant catch. although i have not tried inserting an Att sim in it to see if it will get 4g speeds.
if anyone knows of any other options please let me know at this point im paying for 4G speeds on tmob but getting 2G.
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You can never get past 2g on T-Mobile, ever. It's a hardware issue not software, you are stuck with EDGE speeds unless you switch to AT&T.
Thanks... I guess ill be selling this phone if I have to remain on Tmob.. or get me an atnt account! tmob has the least expensive plans .
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Thanks... I guess ill be selling this phone if I have to remain on Tmob.. or get me an atnt account! tmob has the least expensive plans .
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You can get a cheap medianet plan and get 3g since AT&T will not recognize this as a smartphone, the plan is unlimited too
So At&t Finally got Ballsy and changed my unlimited data plan on my Atrix 4g. needless to say it breached my contract and i got out of there.. Now, here is my dillemma. I have everything working, Phone Data SMS. but im stuck on edge , i know its because of the missing 1700mhz band, but seeing how its a standard radio and a world phone, there has got to be a way to modify the frequencies it scans right? o ya im on the tmo network, which is the only gsm provider which is close enough to be able to use the atrix fully, any help guys would be greatly appreciated , and i have NO problem donating to anyone who might be able to solve this,
Thanx Again in Advance
Fate
It's a hardware thing. In the U.S., the only frequencies the Atrix can use for 3G/HSPA+ is 850/1900. Whereas T-mobile uses 1700/2100.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...nt-4g-hspa-phone-will-not-be-covered-by-both/
Now, don't take my word for it but I believe the 2100 UMTS band (which is essentially the HSPA band) is for using as a "World Phone", meaning it can access 3G bands abroad but not here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands
Also, the 2100 band that T-mo uses is an AWS band which AT&T cannot use at all. I just wanted to point out that there are some underlying technologies that probably cannot be altered by software.
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So At&t Finally got Ballsy and changed my unlimited data plan on my Atrix 4g. needless to say it breached my contract and i got out of there.. Now, here is my dillemma. I have everything working, Phone Data SMS. but im stuck on edge , i know its because of the missing 1700mhz band, but seeing how its a standard radio and a world phone, there has got to be a way to modify the frequencies it scans right? o ya im on the tmo network, which is the only gsm provider which is close enough to be able to use the atrix fully, any help guys would be greatly appreciated , and i have NO problem donating to anyone who might be able to solve this,
Thanx Again in Advance
Fate
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Not to get off topic but why did they change your unlimited plan?
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Not to get off topic but why did they change your unlimited plan?
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Because of "tethering" , which is described in many ways all except which are correct and "high data usage"
Hello all!!
I have a new Titan II and have unlocked it from AT&T. So now I use it on T-Mobile.
Here is my issue-I can not send or recieve picture messages.
I also want to get 4G more permanent.
If anyone can help, I'd appreciate it.
Thanks in advance to all.
I have found one other issue.
I can not tether/internet share the Titan II.
So, so far we have a total of 3 problems/issues.
1) Not able to send or receive picture messages.
2) Not able to 4G regularly.
3) Not able to tether/internet share.
So I am sure that someone here knows what to do or how to help me.
I really would appreciate it.
Thanks in advance for the help people.
I'd be happy to DONATE to someone if they help with the issues I am having.
Ok your at&t branded Titan 2 is meant to support frequencies : UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+ tri-band (2100/1900/850 MHz) and quad band GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850/900/1800/1900 MHz) and LTE BC4/BC17,
Now I don't know which Freq T-Mobile use in USA but you probably wont be able to use all its features (LTE + 3G) seeing as it's not meant to be used for T-mobile etc, As for Tethering I can only assume if it's not available then it would be down to at&t firmware and you may need to flash a stock ROM to enable everything, If you were to use an at&t sim then all would work including LTE, All in all it's alot of messing about and unfortunately Operators branding limitations do not help.
run HTC Connection Setup to fix MMS and data.
4G is determined by radio frequencies. AT&T 4G is incompatible with T-Mobile 4G; same with 3G.
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run HTC Connection Setup to fix MMS and data.
4G is determined by radio frequencies. AT&T 4G is incompatible with T-Mobile 4G; same with 3G.
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I'm trying to use a Titan 2 on Tmobile too. MMS doesnt work. with that app, HTC connection setup I get an error message that carrier doesn't exist in database.
Even changed apn to - epc.tmobile.com. still nothing
any help would be appreciated.
I have managed to get 3G working in UK on at&t branded unlocked Titan2 by manually changing APN but cannot send or receive picture messages, 3G works fine, Connection set-up doesn't have the carrier in database, Don't think there is a way round it until it becomes possible to flash a stock Titan2 ROM if one actually exists?
Andy
Thanks alot for the help or at least the insight.
I have updated the APN but still no change.
Not giving up tho. I am sure someone will fugure this out sooner or later.
Tried donating to you...but you have no donate button with in you profile.
If you send me a pm with your info I can get you something for your effort.
Same issue here. Except mines unlocked on Telus. No MMS, group text and of course tethering. HTC Connection also fails on mine.
Funny enough on my Titan 1 all of these work flawlessly on the same sim card and carrier.
I've contacted HTC directly to report the issue about a month or so ago and they claim to be unaware of it. They couldn't provide me a solution so I just said I'd hope that HTC would day fix the HTC Connection app to be supported properly on the Titan 2.
@R1ryda14. Thanks for offer of donation, No need, Just hope I helped.
I gave up and sold my Titan 2, HTC could not help and the conclusion I came to was because it was at&t branded there was no way to manually input the MMS settings seeing as the Connection set-up database only had settings for at&t, I did manage to get 3G working by manual input of APN, The only way to get around this issue was to install a stock ROM, Unfortunately stock ROMs for the Titan 2 do not exist, A real shame as it is a lovely handset and the camera is superb, I hope you do manage to find a solution or that a Stock ROM does eventually materialise
3G/4G on T-Mobile will only work in areas that use the 1900MHz PCS band. T-Mobile uses its 1700MHz AWS band for its 3G/4G services nationwide. They have begun refarming some old 2G spectrum in the 1900MHz PCS band for use on their 3G/4G network recently. The PCS band is the same one that AT&T uses and has included in the Titan II. This is why coverage would be sparse or non-existent on T-Mobile 3G/4G. It all depends on the area you live since their PCS network is only recently being refitted beginning this summer.
I got a Titan 2 too and using it with Vivo here in Brazil. No 4G since we don't have LTE yet, but I got my Internet Sharing working after a hard-reset (don't know why).
Could not set MMS too. HTC Connection also tells me that it does not recognize my Carrier.
My 1st device was a HD7, and I already owned a HTC Ultimate (the HTC Titan here) and in both devices the HTC Connection worked. I dunno why it will not work on Titan 2.
Hi, everybody. Things happens so I left my US phone in Warsaw's taxi being there for Euro-2012 and bought Galaxy S2 I9100 from Orange. Came back to US and was trying to configure internet connection and had no luck getting 4G speeds. So far on the phone it just showing EDGE and low speeds. Is there any way to fix that issue? Was trying to search for this on the forums and Google, just found a couple of ideas that it doesn't work with 4G for some reason.
Any help would be appreciated!
Not sure if polish sgs2 have 4g (Lte) at all. If you want 3g you need to change APN settings for your providers default. You will find it in web.
Other possibility - you have no coverage of network .
Sent from my Sgs2 via Xda Premium. Helped? Click thanks button!
If you're on T-mobile USA, you'll never get better than Edge speeds on their network with an i9100. The phone doesn't have the requisite antenna hardware to receive 1700 mhz for UMTS, which us one of the two required frequencies of the AWS band. (the other being 2100 mhz)
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Not sure if polish sgs2 have 4g (Lte) at all. If you want 3g you need to change APN settings for your providers default. You will find it in web.
Other possibility - you have no coverage of network .
Sent from my Sgs2 via Xda Premium. Helped? Click thanks button!
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You're right, the i9100 does NOT have LTE. He's trying to get what passes for 4G (HSPA+) on one of our US carriers. I'm trying to determine if it's T-mobile USA or AT&T.
I totally missed the carrier name right in the thread title. Simple Mobile operates on the T-mobile USA network. So, I'm sorry to inform you, but you bought a phone that will never get 4G on your network. Sorry.
What about 3G? Or because of the antenna frequency difference not even that?
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What about 3G? Or because of the antenna frequency difference not even that?
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Same bands. So same problem.