I9100 (Orange) on Simple Mobile network? - Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi, everybody. Things happens so I left my US phone in Warsaw's taxi being there for Euro-2012 and bought Galaxy S2 I9100 from Orange. Came back to US and was trying to configure internet connection and had no luck getting 4G speeds. So far on the phone it just showing EDGE and low speeds. Is there any way to fix that issue? Was trying to search for this on the forums and Google, just found a couple of ideas that it doesn't work with 4G for some reason.
Any help would be appreciated!

Not sure if polish sgs2 have 4g (Lte) at all. If you want 3g you need to change APN settings for your providers default. You will find it in web.
Other possibility - you have no coverage of network .
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If you're on T-mobile USA, you'll never get better than Edge speeds on their network with an i9100. The phone doesn't have the requisite antenna hardware to receive 1700 mhz for UMTS, which us one of the two required frequencies of the AWS band. (the other being 2100 mhz)

socah said:
Not sure if polish sgs2 have 4g (Lte) at all. If you want 3g you need to change APN settings for your providers default. You will find it in web.
Other possibility - you have no coverage of network .
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You're right, the i9100 does NOT have LTE. He's trying to get what passes for 4G (HSPA+) on one of our US carriers. I'm trying to determine if it's T-mobile USA or AT&T.

I totally missed the carrier name right in the thread title. Simple Mobile operates on the T-mobile USA network. So, I'm sorry to inform you, but you bought a phone that will never get 4G on your network. Sorry.

What about 3G? Or because of the antenna frequency difference not even that?

korenpenza said:
What about 3G? Or because of the antenna frequency difference not even that?
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Same bands. So same problem.

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[Q] Vibrant 3g

Ok so i bought the vibrant, unlocked it, and inserted my att 3g sim. the issue is im only getting edge speed when my phone is 3g capable. any ideas to correct that? Like creating an apn of some sort?
Thanx!
im about 50 percent sure that at&t and t-mob use different frequencys or something for their 3g signals so they are not compatable, same thing happend with the nexus one and its 3g on at&t if my memory is correct
bweed83 said:
im about 50 percent sure that at&t and t-mob use different frequencys or something for their 3g signals so they are not compatable, same thing happend with the nexus one and its 3g on at&t if my memory is correct
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I second this.
Agree. U need to swap it for samsung captiva. The att galaxy s.
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my only working theory is that the 1900mhz freq isnt as widespread as the 850mhz freq, as the vibrant uses 1900. (i think). so that may be it. but i ask only because some commenter on a diff forum mentioned the need to create a 3g apn.
ps. the captivate is too boxy for me. idk why att changed it
Those are at&&&-t frequencys tmob is 1700 and 2100 I think so if our antenna only picks up those iy wont ever work on at-t's network
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muncher879 said:
my only working theory is that the 1900mhz freq isnt as widespread as the 850mhz freq, as the vibrant uses 1900. (i think). so that may be it. but i ask only because some commenter on a diff forum mentioned the need to create a 3g apn.
ps. the captivate is too boxy for me. idk why att changed it
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It's not how widespread it is. They use different frequencies so your phone won't pick up the ATT 3G signals at all. Edge is 2G.
But I've seen one person on the forum claim that he did it. You can pm him/her on how to do it.
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The Vibrant is capable of AT&T's 3G over the 1900mhz spectrum... if you live in a area where AT&T is only using the 850mhz spec... you will not get 3G.
muncher879 said:
Ok so i bought the vibrant, unlocked it, and inserted my att 3g sim. the issue is im only getting edge speed when my phone is 3g capable. any ideas to correct that? Like creating an apn of some sort?
Thanx!
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HEY, don't listen to these guys. You can get both wcdma 1900 and wcdma 850 on the vibrant, don't worry, you will be able to get at&t 3G on your phone!
I'll show you how when I have time, maybe this weekend.
eortizr said:
The Vibrant is capable of AT&T's 3G over the 1900mhz spectrum... if you live in a area where AT&T is only using the 850mhz spec... you will not get 3G.
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you gave the poor guy wrong information, the vibrant is capable of at&t 3g over 1900 AND 850
Having the same issue
I also am only getting Edge signal on my unlocked vibrant. When I run a 1MB speed test at mobilespeedtest.com it says I am downloading at 2581 kbps which, according to their chart, is a little more than the average 4g speed. Very weird. I also can't download any apps but I am searching for a thread on that.
bmwdoc2002 said:
I also am only getting Edge signal on my unlocked vibrant. When I run a 1MB speed test at mobilespeedtest.com it says I am downloading at 2581 kbps which, according to their chart, is a little more than the average 4g speed. Very weird. I also can't download any apps but I am searching for a thread on that.
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i'm confused, you said you are getting edge signal, but your speed test shows 2.581mbps? thats 3g speeds.
by the way, you can make the vibrant pick up both att 1900 and 850 signals.
you own a bmw and you are a doctor?
SamsungVibrant said:
i'm confused, you said you are getting edge signal, but your speed test shows 2.581mbps? thats 3g speeds.
by the way, you can make the vibrant pick up both att 1900 and 850 signals.
you own a bmw and you are a doctor?
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I am on an unlocked Vibrant right now. I live in the baltimore area and I am getting full 3g on a friends borrowed att sim. I get faster speeds on his att than I get on my own tmobile.
When I unlocked my phone, I used the wife's SIM card on my Vibrant and was able to get 3G as well. It registered without any issues.
New york city is also all 1900mhz. I am chugging along at a healthy 4300kbps according to mobilespeedtest. I think that is faster than the 3g spec allows so I am starting to doubt that website a bit.
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New york city is also all 1900mhz. I am chugging along at a healthy 4300kbps according to mobilespeedtest. I think that is faster than the 3g spec allows so I am starting to doubt that website a bit.
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what website? you can also set the vibrant to pick up at&t's wcdma 850mhz
SamsungVibrant said:
HEY, don't listen to these guys. You can get both wcdma 1900 and wcdma 850 on the vibrant, don't worry, you will be able to get at&t 3G on your phone!
I'll show you how when I have time, maybe this weekend.
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HI,
Can you explain how you get UTMS / HSDPA 850 on the Vinrant? According to the specs at xda
It doesnt officially support that, but over at howard forums (sorry cant post lins as a new user):
1666323-USING-SAMSUNG-T-MOBILE-VIBRANT-T959-on-WIND-MOBILE.....IN-CANADA
it seems it is an option in the service menu. Have you tried UTMS850 (as opposed to GSM850) and can confirm it works. Its relevant in Australia as the best coverage NextG network (Telstra) operates on UTMS850
Cheers Chris.
Derp.....
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i'm not getting 3g either,
is there a link to a map to see if i have 1900 in my area?
what apn setting should be used, im pretty shocked that it did the edge APN settings on its own
Try dialing
*#2263#
choose option [4]Combi Bands
Choose option [8] WCDMA 850 bla bla
Choose Add WCDMA 850 bla bla
If the chip is capable to work in that frequency it will work. There are mixed reports but it is the way to fix it

[Q] UK SGSII in the US?

Heya!
I'm a little confused as to what Frequencies for 3G the SGSII will support - are the data sheets true and it actually is ready for 3G Quadband? So I'd be able to use the phone I buy over here in the UK on the AT&T Network and I'd still be able to use the 3G connectivity?
Thanks for the clarification!
Meister_Li said:
Heya!
I'm a little confused as to what Frequencies for 3G the SGSII will support - are the data sheets true and it actually is ready for 3G Quadband? So I'd be able to use the phone I buy over here in the UK on the AT&T Network and I'd still be able to use the 3G connectivity?
Thanks for the clarification!
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Yes, you can use with ATT in the US. Galaxy S2 has 850/1900 3G bands which is what ATT uses.
agree, I am on AT&T, using it. the phone software is not yet perfected in terms of 3g/4g, but that effects all users around the world.
Awesome, thanks for the clarification!

[Q] 3g/4g on t-mobile US

I recently purchased an unlock galaxy s2 i9100. It is supposed to be GSM unlock with HSPA+ 21Mbps/HSUPA 5.76Mbps, EDGE/GPRS Class 12, Quad band GSM 850/900/1800/1900, Quad band UMTS 850/900/1900/2100 hardware capabilities. since I have gotten the phone i have not been able to connect to anything but edge. Tmobile assured me i had the correct APN setting. I would like to know if anyone know what I could to to enable the HSPA+ T mobile US uses UMTS 2100 to connect. I rooted and flashed the lite'ning rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1095274
I am a bit of a newby and would appreciate any advice.
Nope you won't get hspa speeds on Tmobile with the current international version. You have to wait for the Tmobile variant. International version gets
3g speeds only on att.
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Kantankerousmind said:
T mobile US uses UMTS 2100 to connect.
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This is correct. However, it's only used for one way traffic (either uploading or downloading, i'm not sure which). UMTS 1700 is used for the other direction of traffic on T-Mobile. This means no 3G/4G without both frequencies.
Your 2 options:
1. Get a T-Mobile phone.
2. Switch to AT&T.
Electroz said:
This is correct. However, it's only used for one way traffic (either uploading or downloading, i'm not sure which). UMTS 1700 is used for the other direction of traffic on T-Mobile. This means no 3G/4G without both frequencies.
Your 2 options:
1. Get a T-Mobile phone.
2. Switch to AT&T.
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kirdroid said:
Nope you won't get hspa speeds on Tmobile with the current international version. You have to wait for the Tmobile variant. International version gets
3g speeds only on att.
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thanks for the quick and concise responses. I have a clarification: does this mean that I when Tmobile comes out with the variant my phone will be able to upgrade to Hspa via a rom or radio update or that if i want to keep this model i will have to wait to swap it out for the tmobile version
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thanks for the quick and concise responses. I have a clarification: does this mean that I when Tmobile comes out with the variant my phone will be able to upgrade to Hspa via a rom or radio update or that if i want to keep this model i will have to wait to swap it out for the tmobile version
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The I9100 will NEVER work on T-Mobile. The SGS2 that they are releasing has different HARDWARE. There will never be a way to make the phone you have now work on T-Mobile 3G.
As others have said you'll need a different phone in order to get it to work on T-Mobile USA's 3G/4G frequencies.
You'd need a penta-band phone in order for it to work on all of them. I think Intel is curently working on that or already did but that's all there is. You'd need both 1700/2100mhz in order to use it with 3G.
I don't get how people don't research before they buy!!
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Cannot run 4g. please help

Hi, I have the white s2 i9100unlock version and when I put in my
Tmobile Sim card it says that I am running on E network instead of 4g. Is there anything I can do to change this? I contact Tmobile and they say it's the phone not their line. Please help me out because running on the E network is very slow
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The international i9100 does not support 4G. Only option would be to get a 4G enabled one.
its because the international galaxy s2 doesn't have the same 3g bands as T-Mobile (assuming you are T-Mobile USA). They run off of 1700/2100 while the phone itself supports 850/900/1900/2100. While only the 2100 band matches, if you don't get 2100 coverage in your area, you will default to 2g.
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Tkdinh101 said:
Hi, I have the white s2 i9100unlock version and when I put in my
Tmobile Sim card it says that I am running on E network instead of 4g. Is there anything I can do to change this? I contact Tmobile and they say it's the phone not their line. Please help me out because running on the E network is very slow
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So you started another thread on this, where I also answered your question. This phone will never get HSPA+ speeds on T-Mobile USA - or what they call "4G". It lacks one of the necessary frequencies for it. It will only get Edge speeds. From what I remember on how T-Mobile USA's network functions, 3G and "4G" need both 1700 and 2100 mhz to function, as it uses one frequency for download and the other for upload.
EDIT: Here's the wikipedia article on AWS, which is the band T-Mobile uses for 3G/4G. In brief, AWS uses 1700 Mhz for uplink, and 2100 Mhz for downlink. So since it only gets half of the band, it won't do "4G".
akusokuzan said:
its because the international galaxy s2 doesn't have the same 3g bands as T-Mobile (assuming you are T-Mobile USA). They run off of 1700/2100 while the phone itself supports 850/900/1900/2100. While only the 2100 band matches, if you don't get 2100 coverage in your area, you will default to 2g.
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Unfortunately, the bolded/underlined part is simply not true. T-Mobile USA needs your phone to be able to get both 1700 mhz and 2100 mhz UMTS frequencies to do 3G/4G. If your phone doesn't have one of the frequencies, it won't do 3G/4G at all, and fall to Edge (2.5G).
What if I overall another ROM? Will it help?
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Tkdinh101 said:
What if I overall another ROM? Will it help?
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No. The phone simply doesn't have the hardware to receive the frequency. Nothing you can do to fix this.
akusokuzan said:
its because the international galaxy s2 doesn't have the same 3g bands as T-Mobile (assuming you are T-Mobile USA). They run off of 1700/2100 while the phone itself supports 850/900/1900/2100. While only the 2100 band matches, if you don't get 2100 coverage in your area, you will default to 2g.
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Wow that's weird, here in aus you only need to match one freq to get 3g. Do you know what t-mobile has done to require two bands to match? (its just my curiosity asking)
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Tkdinh101 said:
Hi, I have the white s2 i9100unlock version and when I put in my
Tmobile Sim card it says that I am running on E network instead of 4g. Is there anything I can do to change this? I contact Tmobile and they say it's the phone not their line. Please help me out because running on the E network is very slow
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You need Galaxy2 HD LTE to access 4G. That particular model is not available outside Korea at the moment. If you want 4G, try Samsung Galaxy Note or LG Optimus LTE - also known as Nitro HD, or HTC phones.
Visentinel said:
Wow that's weird, here in aus you only need to match one freq to get 3g. Do you know what t-mobile has done to require two bands to match? (its just my curiosity asking)
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That indeed is weird and inconvenient, but I guess telco's can setup their system however they like... It may have lot to do with number of people using mobile services. In OZ we have 22 million potential mobile users using 4 major telco companies, whereas in USA, they would get most of OZ population just in New York city, let alone rest of the country.
Ah systemcrasher I think they might be load balancing the hspa+ mimo across the two freqs. Telstra nextg doesn't need to coz there's allot less people here.
If that's the case still should be allowed to fall back to a non mimo mode.
Let this be a lesson to the OP, always research all carrier pre requisites before buying, also consider other carriers encased you'd like to stay open to other options.
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Visentinel said:
Wow that's weird, here in aus you only need to match one freq to get 3g. Do you know what t-mobile has done to require two bands to match? (its just my curiosity asking)
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Visentinel said:
Ah systemcrasher I think they might be load balancing the hspa+ mimo across the two freqs. Telstra nextg doesn't need to coz there's allot less people here.
If that's the case still should be allowed to fall back to a non mimo mode.
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systemcrasher said:
That indeed is weird and inconvenient, but I guess telco's can setup their system however they like... It may have lot to do with number of people using mobile services. In OZ we have 22 million potential mobile users using 4 major telco companies, whereas in USA, they would get most of OZ population just in New York city, let alone rest of the country.
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ctomgee said:
EDIT: Here's the wikipedia article on AWS, which is the band T-Mobile uses for 3G/4G. In brief, AWS uses 1700 Mhz for uplink, and 2100 Mhz for downlink. So since it only gets half of the band, it won't do "4G".
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So the answer is the link to the wikipedia article in my quote above. It's not T-Mobile USA's doing per se - they just purchased the AWS-1 (also known as UMTS band IV) band of the spectrum. That's just the way this band is set up. Wind and Rogers in Canada also use this band.

Galaxy s2 i9100 not running on 4g.

Hi, I have a white galaxy s2 i9100, but for some reason, when I put in my Tmobile sim card, it only runs on E network and not 4g. I contact Tmobile and they said there's nothing they can do about it since it's not a Tmobile phone. is there anything I can do to make my phone run on 4g? E network is very slow.
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The I9100 version don't support 4G
But it says on the website that it does
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Im looking at the specification and i don't see any 4G.
I order mine on newegg.com before I purchase it I checked the specifics and it said 4g.
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Tkdinh101 said:
Hi, I have a white galaxy s2 i9100, but for some reason, when I put in my Tmobile sim card, it only runs on E network and not 4g. I contact Tmobile and they said there's nothing they can do about it since it's not a Tmobile phone. is there anything I can do to make my phone run on 4g? E network is very slow.
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You're on T-Mobile? In the US? Then what you're seeing is normal. The GT-I9100 doesn't support one of the frequencies necessary for 4G on T-Mobile USA's network. (1700/2100) It will ONLY ever get Edge speeds.
It DOES support 4G (well, HSPA+, anyways) on AT&T's network, which runs on 850/1900.
See here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875176292. Once you get to this page, click on the Details tab. Notice where it says "3G". (I know - 3G; but it uses the same frequencies for HSPA+) It says "AT&T 3G Only".
Sorry bud.
Tkdinh101 said:
Hi, I have a white galaxy s2 i9100, but for some reason, when I put in my Tmobile sim card, it only runs on E network and not 4g. I contact Tmobile and they said there's nothing they can do about it since it's not a Tmobile phone. is there anything I can do to make my phone run on 4g? E network is very slow.
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A lot of carriers wrongly named their network 4G for advertising reasons when it is in fact still only 3G.
The reason why it might be on EDGE is because it probably has a much stronger signal than 3G does so it will default to it. You can set the phone to use 3G only by going to settings -> wireless & networks -> mobile networks and then set network mode to WCDMA only.
Take note of the signal strength in settings -> about phone -> status.
gyco said:
A lot of carriers wrongly named their network 4G for advertising reasons when it is in fact still only 3G.
The reason why it might be on EDGE is because it probably has a much stronger signal than 3G does so it will default to it. You can set the phone to use 3G only by going to settings -> wireless & networks -> mobile networks and then set network mode to WCDMA only.
Take note of the signal strength in settings -> about phone -> status.
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No. This will NEVER work. Trust me. the I9100 does not and will not EVER receive one of the frequencies necessary for T-Mobile USA's HSPA+ (what they market as 4G) network. You will ALWAYS only be able to get Edge on T-Mobile when using this phone.
ctomgee said:
No. This will NEVER work. Trust me. the I9100 does not and will not EVER receive one of the frequencies necessary for T-Mobile USA's HSPA+ (what they market as 4G) network. You will ALWAYS only be able to get Edge on T-Mobile when using this phone.
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Sorry, I'm use to the 850/900/2100mhz 3G frequencies we use here, all of which this phone covers so there's never a problem using any network... Except Vodafone, they suck on all frequencies

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