[Q] xperia s and ram : 1go or 697mo - Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go

hello,
i'm a new user of xperia s and i'm curious
And i would like to knows why there is only 697mo of ram available and no more ? (1go normally, and for example the galaxy s2 has 830mo available)
thanks for yours answers

The rest is allocated by the system.

some said it's for the gpu (as adreno 220 dont have dedicated ram), some said it's for the android os itself.
dunno for sure. but looking around i found:
sgs3: around 700 mB available ram
hox: around 900 mB available ram, but the free ram is about the same with sgs3 (or even less, bcause of sense ui)
so i think it's just the manufacturer interpretation for the used ram and free ram.

ok thanks a lot for quickly answers

Is there anyway to increase the ram availability like around 700-750Mb

anadarco7 said:
Is there anyway to increase the ram availability like around 700-750Mb
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No.

ram manager could increase the free available ram ? doesn't it ?
I don't know this app but i have read it...

tofclaire said:
ram manager could increase the free available ram ? doesn't it ?
I don't know this app but i have read it...
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Hardly.
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i just realized i got less ram in antutu
well thanks for explanation.

only CM9 can improve amount of ram for user (i had that with girl htc wildifre with CM7)..
but not quitly sure if that is the same with SXS

electrash said:
only CM9 can improve amount of ram for user (i had that with girl htc wildifre with CM7)..
but not quitly sure if that is the same with SXS
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Yes, AOSP should use a bit less RAM. Sony's skin is nicely optimized though.

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[Q] How much RAM do we really have?

Hi guys.
I read on the SE Xperia neo specs it comes with 512 MB RAM. However, my AnTuTu benchmark tools reads ~333MB. On ES Task Manager, including both used and unused RAM memory sums up to ~300.
I read somewhere this is because some of the RAM memory is the Adreno 205 GPU memory only.
Can anyone tell for sure?
evilRafael said:
Hi guys.
I read on the SE Xperia neo specs it comes with 512 MB RAM. However, my AnTuTu benchmark tools reads ~333MB. On ES Task Manager, including both used and unused RAM memory sums up to ~300.
I read somewhere this is because some of the RAM memory is the Adreno 205 GPU memory only.
Can anyone tell for sure?
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And thats it is!
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No, Android take a part for himself, almost 128MB
taaviu said:
And thats it is!
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I don't think this makes sense, anyone else know about this?
Dark-DJ said:
No, Android take a part for himself, almost 128MB
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~320MB (from my readings)
+
~128MB (for Android)
=
~450MB
That doesn't make 512MB...
My phone got about 40MB free ram under normal......
What's wrong with it ...
Too many widgets and other random stuff running in the background.
evilRafael said:
I don't think this makes sense, anyone else know about this?
~320MB (from my readings)
+
~128MB (for Android)
=
~450MB
That doesn't make 512MB...
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I noticed the same thing...
One part is taken by the GPU, another by Android itself.
william91 said:
My phone got about 40MB free ram under normal......
What's wrong with it ...
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What? Only 40 MB? In my old Xperia X8 i have got 60 MB i think your phone have got some problem =) in my neo there is normally 130-200 MB free.
150mb。。。。。
100mb+ here most of the time
100-150 mb.
2/3 of our ram is eaten up by the system which sux !!
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[Q] where did the missing Ram go?

The specs says that this phone has 1gb of ram. Why do I only see only about 600mb in total ( used +free) in Settings/application?
Do search the forums before you post. Your question has already been asked and answered:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1548397
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1558561
Apologies for that and thanks for the links. I wonder how my Galaxy S with 512mb ram with ics rom ported from Nexus S can run so smoothly. Does android allocate memory depending how much maximum ram is available?
GT35pro said:
Apologies for that and thanks for the links. I wonder how my Galaxy S with 512mb ram with ics rom ported from Nexus S can run so smoothly. Does android allocate memory depending how much maximum ram is available?
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512MB ram is a decent amount, and the Xperia S runs smoothly. I think you should be asking in the Nexus S forum section.
The Nexus S is almost identical hardware to the Galaxy S in terms of soc / ram etc. The reason why the galaxy s is not getting ics is because the addition of touchwhiz on top of ics is to much for it to cope and samsung are not going to release a vanilla rom.

Ram details show 700 around

Hi, I bought XS quiet some 20 days back and out of curiosity I installed phone tester to check. The results showed was only 700 mb for ram, whereas as per the spec it need to be 1gb. can someone help out on this...
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hello,
you can see here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1697957
Son experia S ram capacity
Hi, thanks for response... but even in that thread there was no concrete conclusion to state why the size details were not exactly shown. I am still not convinced on this.
ok BASICALLY this happens with ALL android devices. The operating software takes up some ram on it's own for example on htc devices the sense ui takes up ram and on samsung it is touchwiz. No matter how many roms you use you will never be able to see the full capacity of the ram, apps on multitasking also cause ram numbers to lower. Generally a sign of a low ram number means more battery is being used but it is nothing to worry about
sensation lover said:
ok BASICALLY this happens with ALL android devices. The operating software takes up some ram on it's own for example on htc devices the sense ui takes up ram and on samsung it is touchwiz. No matter how many roms you use you will never be able to see the full capacity of the ram, apps on multitasking also cause ram numbers to lower. Generally a sign of a low ram number means more battery is being used but it is nothing to worry about
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LinuxAteMyRAM.com
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K900 said:
LinuxAteMyRAM.com
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LOL
Your RAM is OK.
Android uses a lot of cache but uses it dynamically.
If you want to see a bit more free RAM clear the caches for big apps.
If you "free" more RAM your phone may even get slower, because the system is using it to speed up processes.

[Q] the old question, why do we have low free RAM?

this is not a new question, and I believe it is one of the most frequent questions and I was convinced with the giving answers but after getting my nexus 7 I am looking for some explanations.
why do we have low available RAM.I usually have 200 or less free RAM while my nexus 7 have ~ 500 free RAM. and even the total amount of RAM (used and free) together is about ~650MB and not 1GB, I have read that because delvic catch and other system process uses some RAM, but again my nexus 7 shows total of 1GB RAM (see screenshot attached).
so is this a problem with xperia s itself or is it ICS and this will change with JB
I know that android can free RAM when required and I know that the system using some and I shouldn't care, but using heavy apps and live wallpaper just eats the rest of the RAM and the phone become laggy until I make a restart, then it becomes fine.
any explanation?
It is normal. Live with it.
It's normal, it's not the same as windows, or other OS, I remember I've read in some place that this 'low free ram' is good, because it will start faster the most used apps.
Why does the nexus show almost all of the RAM?
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Felimenta97 said:
Why does the nexus show almost all of the RAM?
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They all say gpu and os and lalala but problem is that nobody know and we have to live with that.
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I think because since nexus 7 is aosp thus bloat free it shows up more ram..
The xperia have more stuff always running in the background so it eats the ram up if you take off stuf like timescape and yada yada might make a difference..
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shahkam said:
I think because since nexus 7 is aosp thus bloat free it shows up more ram..
The xperia have more stuff always running in the background so it eats the ram up if you take off stuf like timescape and yada yada might make a difference..
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A) There is no way that nexus 7 has 650 RAM
B) We only have 700MB vacant RAM.
C) I uninstalled all the bloatware, there are some more com.bull_****.android processes that can be killed.
D) I made some changes in the heapsize... by this tutorial. Works in JB as well.
E) All of the above?:fingers-crossed:
K900 said:
It is normal. Live with it.
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I am not looking for solution, I am sure if anyone knows how to sort it, he would have done a long ago, I am looking for explanation
Felimenta97 said:
Why does the nexus show almost all of the RAM?
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exactly, that what I am looking for, explanation
gm007 said:
They all say gpu and os and lalala but problem is that nobody know and we have to live with that.
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that what I concluded from several posts I read, no one seems to know the reason, and I am not convinced with any answer, I am now actually starting to think that our xperia s has ~700mb RAM not 1gb just like the HTC desire HD which has 768mb RAM
I think because since nexus 7 is aosp thus bloat free it shows up more ram..
The xperia have more stuff always running in the background so it eats the ram up if you take off stuf like timescape and yada yada might make a difference..
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I don't think bloatware has anything to do with this, if it is because bloatware is eating the RAM, then it will be shown as used not completely disappear.
Nexus 7 shows @GB RAM because Tegra is way smarter than Adreno when it comes to graphics RAM.
is there any apps can stop those useless apps to autorun its own or auto startup when phone turn on??
i tried:
autostarts
startup manager
autorun manager
easy app lock
all these doesnt work on my xperia s... thy work in my xperia x10 before... (p.s. my phone is running ICS and is rooted...)
not sure what difference it makes. My phone sits on 105MB free most of the time. I have no lag
what i know from the HTC One X is that tegra 3 GPU is sharing the memory in real time, not partititioning it like the others. only a small amount is saved for kernel so it was showing about 900 Mb of ram. i dont think it is good idea with all that single memory controller. but anyways, tegra GPU is generally sharing the graphic load with CPUs. this is why tegra optimised games make CPUs jump to max even the other devices can handle them easly with chainfire 3D.
and the reason it has more free memory everytime is that, the multitasking is less agressive in quad core devices due to the possible battery drain and heating problems. and this makes me think if upgrading to quad-core is a bottle neck in software with todays battery and 40 Nm technologies.
_delice_doluca_ said:
what i know from the HTC One X is that tegra 3 GPU is sharing the memory in real time, not partititioning it like the others. only a small amount is saved for kernel so it was showing about 900 Mb of ram. i dont think it is good idea with all that single memory controller. but anyways, tegra GPU is generally sharing the graphic load with CPUs. this is why tegra optimised games make CPUs jump to max even the other devices can handle them easly with chainfire 3D.
and the reason it has more free memory everytime is that, the multitasking is less agressive in quad core devices due to the possible battery drain and heating problems. and this makes me think if upgrading to quad-core is a bottle neck in software with todays battery and 40 Nm technologies.
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Quad core is just overkill on mobile. It needs a different approach. OMAP5 is quad core, but the two 'main' (faster) cores kick in dynamically, and most of the system runs on two 'coprocessor' (slower) cores. That's an interesting concept because it can dedicated two cores to a single application and keep the system running in the background.
ahomad said:
I am not looking for solution, I am sure if anyone knows how to sort it, he would have done a long ago, I am looking for explanation
exactly, that what I am looking for, explanation
that what I concluded from several posts I read, no one seems to know the reason, and I am not convinced with any answer, I am now actually starting to think that our xperia s has ~700mb RAM not 1gb just like the HTC desire HD which has 768mb RAM
I don't think bloatware has anything to do with this, if it is because bloatware is eating the RAM, then it will be shown as used not completely disappear.
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Dude Xperia S definitely has 1gb of ram. I am getting sick of people saying it has less because they don't understand the way the os works. There is no RAM conspiracy.
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3vilhomer said:
is there any apps can stop those useless apps to autorun its own or auto startup when phone turn on??
i tried:
autostarts
startup manager
autorun manager
easy app lock
all these doesnt work on my xperia s... thy work in my xperia x10 before... (p.s. my phone is running ICS and is rooted...)
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Rom Toolbox works.
mrsatan said:
Dude Xperia S definitely has 1gb of ram. I am getting sick of people saying it has less because they don't understand the way the os works. There is no RAM conspiracy.
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The problem is the phone does report less than 1GB and people are used to the likes of windows reporting the amount the actual installed RAM not what is actually available for use.
Sick of hearing it or not you better get used to it because unless manufacturers or Google start displaying the amount of RAM actually in the phone the same question is going to be asked for ever more.
MrBelter said:
The problem is the phone does report less than 1GB and people are used to the likes of windows reporting the amount the actual installed RAM not what is actually available for use.
Sick of hearing it or not you better get used to it because unless manufacturers or Google start displaying the amount of RAM actually in the phone the same question is going to be asked for ever more.
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Until I switched to 64 bits, it always have shown me I had 3 Gb, when in fact I have 4 Gb...
MrBelter said:
The problem is the phone does report less than 1GB and people are used to the likes of windows reporting the amount the actual installed RAM not what is actually available for use.
Sick of hearing it or not you better get used to it because unless manufacturers or Google start displaying the amount of RAM actually in the phone the same question is going to be asked for ever more.
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No if u use PC with non-dedicated gpu/VGA. Imagine if people complain their 2 gB ram laptop has only 1.5 gB in the Windows. There are a lot of laptops saying that they have 2 gB ram (in their advertisement ), yet the fact is they only have less then 2 gB cause of the sharing of gpu.
Felimenta97 said:
Until I switched to 64 bits, it always have shown me I had 3 Gb, when in fact I have 4 Gb...
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Lol.it's different case. It's because the os (32 bit) doesn't support more than 3 gB ram. But there's a hack to make the 32 bit windows use more than 3 gB of ram.
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From what i read in linux forums:
"Unused RAM is wasted RAM"
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Erachter said:
From what i read in linux forums:
"Unused RAM is wasted RAM"
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This.

ram unlock ?

it's mentioned in features of xperia neo that it has 512MB of ram
well
in setting>application>running services
not only the amout of ram is not 512 but it changes using different ROMs for example in codename 9.2 i had 256MB and i codename 9.3 i have 320MB of rams
so i figured that there's gotta be a way to unlock the rest of it if i am right
any ideas ?
thanks
hossein7292 said:
it's mentioned in features of xperia neo that it has 512MB of ram
well
in setting>application>running services
not only the amout of ram is not 512 but it changes using different ROMs for example in codename 9.2 i had 256MB and i codename 9.3 i have 320MB of rams
so i figured that there's gotta be a way to unlock the rest of it if i am right
any ideas ?
thanks
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Dont think so bro
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Well, it is needed for gpu also. So some is dedicated to that. And a lot of other stuff that Sony thinks was necessary.
When devs give u increased ram, they know what they do,
trying to do to much of this stuff may permanently brick your phone.
So be happy with what u get....
" Always forgive your enemy, nothing will ever annoy him more."
First of all.
use a program to report totall ram
the built-in task manager is crap
It always reports random numbers.
Just a notice:
if you install v6 built-in manager will report way less total ram on gignerbread
(oh and the rest of the ram around 200mbs are used for your gpu camera and such things..

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