it's mentioned in features of xperia neo that it has 512MB of ram
well
in setting>application>running services
not only the amout of ram is not 512 but it changes using different ROMs for example in codename 9.2 i had 256MB and i codename 9.3 i have 320MB of rams
so i figured that there's gotta be a way to unlock the rest of it if i am right
any ideas ?
thanks
hossein7292 said:
it's mentioned in features of xperia neo that it has 512MB of ram
well
in setting>application>running services
not only the amout of ram is not 512 but it changes using different ROMs for example in codename 9.2 i had 256MB and i codename 9.3 i have 320MB of rams
so i figured that there's gotta be a way to unlock the rest of it if i am right
any ideas ?
thanks
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Dont think so bro
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Well, it is needed for gpu also. So some is dedicated to that. And a lot of other stuff that Sony thinks was necessary.
When devs give u increased ram, they know what they do,
trying to do to much of this stuff may permanently brick your phone.
So be happy with what u get....
" Always forgive your enemy, nothing will ever annoy him more."
First of all.
use a program to report totall ram
the built-in task manager is crap
It always reports random numbers.
Just a notice:
if you install v6 built-in manager will report way less total ram on gignerbread
(oh and the rest of the ram around 200mbs are used for your gpu camera and such things..
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I understand that the total ram on x10 is 384 MB but due to OS limitations, only 256 MB was viewable....now since the bootloader has been hacked, can the tweaks to kernal make more RAM available on our devices???
Thanks so much for your response!
interesting... I'd like to know also.
I don't think the loader is cracked yet.
But Svtook said that if it was it may be possible to redefine the partitions.
I'm not 100% sure if this will get you more ram.
In all honesty, I'm not sure I see the point. Free ram is wasted ram and I can't seem to run enough programs that there is really a slowdown from reallocating ram to other programs. I'd like to know if anyone has been able to use all the ram to the point of causing a slowdown though.
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if you play HD games, 50 - 80 MB of your RAM gets eaten away very easily....but am mor interested to know about the possibilities now that the bootloader has been 'bypassed'
PS i don't think this depends on the bootloader being cracked but on the kernal which can now be modified and loaded (correct me if am wrong)
droidier said:
if you play HD games, 50 - 80 MB of your RAM gets eaten away very easily....but am mor interested to know about the possibilities now that the bootloader has been 'bypassed'
PS i don't think this depends on the bootloader being cracked but on the kernal which can now be modified and loaded (correct me if am wrong)
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I also think the same
read somewhere earler that 2.1 android can only map 256 mb and hence the limitation now SE launching 2.3.3 and also our beloved moving on to 2.3.3 and custom kernels this should be an interesting thing to know.
Hi guys.
I read on the SE Xperia neo specs it comes with 512 MB RAM. However, my AnTuTu benchmark tools reads ~333MB. On ES Task Manager, including both used and unused RAM memory sums up to ~300.
I read somewhere this is because some of the RAM memory is the Adreno 205 GPU memory only.
Can anyone tell for sure?
evilRafael said:
Hi guys.
I read on the SE Xperia neo specs it comes with 512 MB RAM. However, my AnTuTu benchmark tools reads ~333MB. On ES Task Manager, including both used and unused RAM memory sums up to ~300.
I read somewhere this is because some of the RAM memory is the Adreno 205 GPU memory only.
Can anyone tell for sure?
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And thats it is!
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No, Android take a part for himself, almost 128MB
taaviu said:
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I don't think this makes sense, anyone else know about this?
Dark-DJ said:
No, Android take a part for himself, almost 128MB
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~320MB (from my readings)
+
~128MB (for Android)
=
~450MB
That doesn't make 512MB...
My phone got about 40MB free ram under normal......
What's wrong with it ...
Too many widgets and other random stuff running in the background.
evilRafael said:
I don't think this makes sense, anyone else know about this?
~320MB (from my readings)
+
~128MB (for Android)
=
~450MB
That doesn't make 512MB...
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I noticed the same thing...
One part is taken by the GPU, another by Android itself.
william91 said:
My phone got about 40MB free ram under normal......
What's wrong with it ...
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What? Only 40 MB? In my old Xperia X8 i have got 60 MB i think your phone have got some problem =) in my neo there is normally 130-200 MB free.
150mb。。。。。
100mb+ here most of the time
100-150 mb.
2/3 of our ram is eaten up by the system which sux !!
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hello,
i'm a new user of xperia s and i'm curious
And i would like to knows why there is only 697mo of ram available and no more ? (1go normally, and for example the galaxy s2 has 830mo available)
thanks for yours answers
The rest is allocated by the system.
some said it's for the gpu (as adreno 220 dont have dedicated ram), some said it's for the android os itself.
dunno for sure. but looking around i found:
sgs3: around 700 mB available ram
hox: around 900 mB available ram, but the free ram is about the same with sgs3 (or even less, bcause of sense ui)
so i think it's just the manufacturer interpretation for the used ram and free ram.
ok thanks a lot for quickly answers
Is there anyway to increase the ram availability like around 700-750Mb
anadarco7 said:
Is there anyway to increase the ram availability like around 700-750Mb
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No.
ram manager could increase the free available ram ? doesn't it ?
I don't know this app but i have read it...
tofclaire said:
ram manager could increase the free available ram ? doesn't it ?
I don't know this app but i have read it...
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Hardly.
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i just realized i got less ram in antutu
well thanks for explanation.
only CM9 can improve amount of ram for user (i had that with girl htc wildifre with CM7)..
but not quitly sure if that is the same with SXS
electrash said:
only CM9 can improve amount of ram for user (i had that with girl htc wildifre with CM7)..
but not quitly sure if that is the same with SXS
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Yes, AOSP should use a bit less RAM. Sony's skin is nicely optimized though.
this is not a new question, and I believe it is one of the most frequent questions and I was convinced with the giving answers but after getting my nexus 7 I am looking for some explanations.
why do we have low available RAM.I usually have 200 or less free RAM while my nexus 7 have ~ 500 free RAM. and even the total amount of RAM (used and free) together is about ~650MB and not 1GB, I have read that because delvic catch and other system process uses some RAM, but again my nexus 7 shows total of 1GB RAM (see screenshot attached).
so is this a problem with xperia s itself or is it ICS and this will change with JB
I know that android can free RAM when required and I know that the system using some and I shouldn't care, but using heavy apps and live wallpaper just eats the rest of the RAM and the phone become laggy until I make a restart, then it becomes fine.
any explanation?
It is normal. Live with it.
It's normal, it's not the same as windows, or other OS, I remember I've read in some place that this 'low free ram' is good, because it will start faster the most used apps.
Why does the nexus show almost all of the RAM?
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Felimenta97 said:
Why does the nexus show almost all of the RAM?
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They all say gpu and os and lalala but problem is that nobody know and we have to live with that.
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I think because since nexus 7 is aosp thus bloat free it shows up more ram..
The xperia have more stuff always running in the background so it eats the ram up if you take off stuf like timescape and yada yada might make a difference..
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shahkam said:
I think because since nexus 7 is aosp thus bloat free it shows up more ram..
The xperia have more stuff always running in the background so it eats the ram up if you take off stuf like timescape and yada yada might make a difference..
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A) There is no way that nexus 7 has 650 RAM
B) We only have 700MB vacant RAM.
C) I uninstalled all the bloatware, there are some more com.bull_****.android processes that can be killed.
D) I made some changes in the heapsize... by this tutorial. Works in JB as well.
E) All of the above?:fingers-crossed:
K900 said:
It is normal. Live with it.
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I am not looking for solution, I am sure if anyone knows how to sort it, he would have done a long ago, I am looking for explanation
Felimenta97 said:
Why does the nexus show almost all of the RAM?
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exactly, that what I am looking for, explanation
gm007 said:
They all say gpu and os and lalala but problem is that nobody know and we have to live with that.
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that what I concluded from several posts I read, no one seems to know the reason, and I am not convinced with any answer, I am now actually starting to think that our xperia s has ~700mb RAM not 1gb just like the HTC desire HD which has 768mb RAM
I think because since nexus 7 is aosp thus bloat free it shows up more ram..
The xperia have more stuff always running in the background so it eats the ram up if you take off stuf like timescape and yada yada might make a difference..
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I don't think bloatware has anything to do with this, if it is because bloatware is eating the RAM, then it will be shown as used not completely disappear.
Nexus 7 shows @GB RAM because Tegra is way smarter than Adreno when it comes to graphics RAM.
is there any apps can stop those useless apps to autorun its own or auto startup when phone turn on??
i tried:
autostarts
startup manager
autorun manager
easy app lock
all these doesnt work on my xperia s... thy work in my xperia x10 before... (p.s. my phone is running ICS and is rooted...)
not sure what difference it makes. My phone sits on 105MB free most of the time. I have no lag
what i know from the HTC One X is that tegra 3 GPU is sharing the memory in real time, not partititioning it like the others. only a small amount is saved for kernel so it was showing about 900 Mb of ram. i dont think it is good idea with all that single memory controller. but anyways, tegra GPU is generally sharing the graphic load with CPUs. this is why tegra optimised games make CPUs jump to max even the other devices can handle them easly with chainfire 3D.
and the reason it has more free memory everytime is that, the multitasking is less agressive in quad core devices due to the possible battery drain and heating problems. and this makes me think if upgrading to quad-core is a bottle neck in software with todays battery and 40 Nm technologies.
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what i know from the HTC One X is that tegra 3 GPU is sharing the memory in real time, not partititioning it like the others. only a small amount is saved for kernel so it was showing about 900 Mb of ram. i dont think it is good idea with all that single memory controller. but anyways, tegra GPU is generally sharing the graphic load with CPUs. this is why tegra optimised games make CPUs jump to max even the other devices can handle them easly with chainfire 3D.
and the reason it has more free memory everytime is that, the multitasking is less agressive in quad core devices due to the possible battery drain and heating problems. and this makes me think if upgrading to quad-core is a bottle neck in software with todays battery and 40 Nm technologies.
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Quad core is just overkill on mobile. It needs a different approach. OMAP5 is quad core, but the two 'main' (faster) cores kick in dynamically, and most of the system runs on two 'coprocessor' (slower) cores. That's an interesting concept because it can dedicated two cores to a single application and keep the system running in the background.
ahomad said:
I am not looking for solution, I am sure if anyone knows how to sort it, he would have done a long ago, I am looking for explanation
exactly, that what I am looking for, explanation
that what I concluded from several posts I read, no one seems to know the reason, and I am not convinced with any answer, I am now actually starting to think that our xperia s has ~700mb RAM not 1gb just like the HTC desire HD which has 768mb RAM
I don't think bloatware has anything to do with this, if it is because bloatware is eating the RAM, then it will be shown as used not completely disappear.
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Dude Xperia S definitely has 1gb of ram. I am getting sick of people saying it has less because they don't understand the way the os works. There is no RAM conspiracy.
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3vilhomer said:
is there any apps can stop those useless apps to autorun its own or auto startup when phone turn on??
i tried:
autostarts
startup manager
autorun manager
easy app lock
all these doesnt work on my xperia s... thy work in my xperia x10 before... (p.s. my phone is running ICS and is rooted...)
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Rom Toolbox works.
mrsatan said:
Dude Xperia S definitely has 1gb of ram. I am getting sick of people saying it has less because they don't understand the way the os works. There is no RAM conspiracy.
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The problem is the phone does report less than 1GB and people are used to the likes of windows reporting the amount the actual installed RAM not what is actually available for use.
Sick of hearing it or not you better get used to it because unless manufacturers or Google start displaying the amount of RAM actually in the phone the same question is going to be asked for ever more.
MrBelter said:
The problem is the phone does report less than 1GB and people are used to the likes of windows reporting the amount the actual installed RAM not what is actually available for use.
Sick of hearing it or not you better get used to it because unless manufacturers or Google start displaying the amount of RAM actually in the phone the same question is going to be asked for ever more.
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Until I switched to 64 bits, it always have shown me I had 3 Gb, when in fact I have 4 Gb...
MrBelter said:
The problem is the phone does report less than 1GB and people are used to the likes of windows reporting the amount the actual installed RAM not what is actually available for use.
Sick of hearing it or not you better get used to it because unless manufacturers or Google start displaying the amount of RAM actually in the phone the same question is going to be asked for ever more.
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No if u use PC with non-dedicated gpu/VGA. Imagine if people complain their 2 gB ram laptop has only 1.5 gB in the Windows. There are a lot of laptops saying that they have 2 gB ram (in their advertisement ), yet the fact is they only have less then 2 gB cause of the sharing of gpu.
Felimenta97 said:
Until I switched to 64 bits, it always have shown me I had 3 Gb, when in fact I have 4 Gb...
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Lol.it's different case. It's because the os (32 bit) doesn't support more than 3 gB ram. But there's a hack to make the 32 bit windows use more than 3 gB of ram.
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From what i read in linux forums:
"Unused RAM is wasted RAM"
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Erachter said:
From what i read in linux forums:
"Unused RAM is wasted RAM"
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This.
Well, I've upgraded to this device from a Xperia Arc for some reasons. 1GB of RAM, one of the best dual core processors around and 1080p recording. Xperia Arc had only 512 MB of ram, leaving me with only 320 for everyday usage, and with GS2 I'm getting around three times more RAM, but since I've updated to JB on CM10 codeworx build, I'm getting less than 200 MB of free RAM. I know JB uses more resources to enable VSync and 3x Buffering, but is that normal? That's too high for me, and I don't see me back into the ICS roms.
Welcome to the club. JB uses more resources, probably won't change.
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Ahh sorry, thought I was in a different forum lol. Stupid phone...
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It's normal..don't panic..by the way, empty ram is wasted ram..just enjoy your awesome phone..if still in doubts, see the ram usage of galaxy s3, the best smartphone..
If you're asking if it's normal for people not to use dedicated threads for CM10 questions, yes, it seems that it is.
If you're asking whether it's normal that using a ROM which says:
codeworkx said:
ATTENTION: THIS IS JUST A PREVIEW. MAY CONTAIN A LOT OF BUGS!
NO SUPPORT!!!
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at the top, for people to then ask for support, yes it also seems that it is.
Also, the ROM was known to have a memory leak last time I looked. You can find out yourself if it still does by reading the dedicated thread. You can start here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30551602#post30551602
jhnjrdan said:
Well, I've upgraded to this device from a Xperia Arc for some reasons. 1GB of RAM, one of the best dual core processors around and 1080p recording. Xperia Arc had only 512 MB of ram, leaving me with only 320 for everyday usage, and with GS2 I'm getting around three times more RAM, but since I've updated to JB on CM10 codeworx build, I'm getting less than 200 MB of free RAM. I know JB uses more resources to enable VSync and 3x Buffering, but is that normal? That's too high for me, and I don't see me back into the ICS roms.
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Yes it's normal, but most of those RAM space used are for cached processes just to make things faster. More ram will surely be freed when you need them.
This is the only reason why even though the free RAM looks small at startup, you haven't experienced lite memory, or apps force closed due to low memory warning
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