Quick question here, something that's puzzling me.
It might be because I'm just totally wrong, but our X10's have 384MB RAM correct?
Now, I thought I had heard before that Android 1.6 limited RAM to 256MB. Since the update, shouldn't I have around 100+ more free RAM than I had before, due to 2.1 allowing for the full 384?
For example, I would have about 110mb free at most times in 1.6, and with the same apps/widgets/etc running on 2.1, should I have around 210mb?
Answers appreciated
(P.S. anyone know why search never works for me on these forums???)
I'm not quite sure, but I remeber reading that it uses 256 mb of ram memory and the remaining is for the graphics.
I was wondering about that. Quadrant shows I have 280MB plus 128MB 'inactive'.
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Merkurio said:
I'm not quite sure, but I remeber reading that it uses 256 mb of ram memory and the remaining is for the graphics.
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That'd make sense, never really thought of that.
I'll have to read into it a bit more, I'm pretty new to Android so some of the more technical stuff is still unknown to me
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So, I just played with a friend's SGS 2 and when i looked into his App Manager, it would say he had 500-600 MB of free ram. Now, no matter how much I wipe or how many processes I kill, I cannot go over 450MB from the "1 GB" we are supposed to have.
I thought It was android reserving some RAM for himself but with this comparison it doesn't make sense anymore. Any recommendation on this? Might be because we have webtop running on background and SGS doesn't?
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So, I just played with a friend's SGS 2 and when i looked into his App Manager, it would say he had 500-600 MB of free ram. Now, no matter how much I wipe or how many processes I kill, I cannot go over 450MB from the "1 GB" we are supposed to have.
I thought It was android reserving some RAM for himself but with this comparison it doesn't make sense anymore. Any recommendation on this? Might be because we have webtop running on background and SGS doesn't?
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I usually have between 500 - 600 mb of RAM available... all depends on how many apps & process you have running.
Webtop does not run unless it is being used. As far as the difference in usage, I think Motoblur just uses more resources. I use Bloat Freezer and i can get up to 600MB free like when I reboot but then processes start up and it goes to about 500MB. Then I'll use it for awhile and it will get down to 200 to 300MB but never any less than 200
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So, I just played with a friend's SGS 2 and when i looked into his App Manager, it would say he had 500-600 MB of free ram. Now, no matter how much I wipe or how many processes I kill, I cannot go over 450MB from the "1 GB" we are supposed to have.
I thought It was android reserving some RAM for himself but with this comparison it doesn't make sense anymore. Any recommendation on this? Might be because we have webtop running on background and SGS doesn't?
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I don't have that many applications installed. And even so, the installed applications shouldn't be taking up RAM unless i run them, right?
I just did a restart and checked the RAM and it was just at 471 MB. I might mention that I'm using Go Launcher and the stock launcher is running also, because if I freeze it with Root Uninstaller, the calendar widget won't work.
Any guide on how to optimize RAM usage or what bloat should i freeze/uninstall?
using CM7, have around 400MB free out of 820 or so at any given point in time.
879mb of ram doesn't = 1gig. I would like to have that extra 120mb in free ram. instead of 600, 720 free. When I go into "About Phone" it used to say the current amount out of 879 but now it seems I've lost 100mb of ram. I've wiped/flashed/rebooted countless times to no avail. Even used Aura deblurred and CM7 with almost the same results.
On my phone it shows 471/816. Yes, would have loved to have that extra 208 MB of ram... But still Swiftks, could we have some info on your mods/apps? 600 MB of free ram is a LOT compared to what we have.
I have used ROMs that showed 575-620mb free but usually after rebooting. I'd say most ROMs will run from 400-500 free. But if you could, look on your phone under running apps and add up your used and free ram and post back.
I've heard that Go Launcher is a resource hog. Might want to try it without that just to see if there is any difference.
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I don't have that many applications installed. And even so, the installed applications shouldn't be taking up RAM unless i run them, right?
I just did a restart and checked the RAM and it was just at 471 MB. I might mention that I'm using Go Launcher and the stock launcher is running also, because if I freeze it with Root Uninstaller, the calendar widget won't work.
Any guide on how to optimize RAM usage or what bloat should i freeze/uninstall?
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There's a huge misconception about how much RAM should be free at any given time. Honestly, the less RAM being used is actually better. That means processes are cued up for multitasking and it uses less resources to start them back up when used. Also, if you have any RAM left then that means you don't need any more because the phone will only use what it needs so if you have like 100MB of Ram available then that means you don't need it, but if you were at like 10 to 20MB free then I'd worry. But most people say they have like 200 available so there really is no reason to worry/complain. Plus, it's better for the battery to have the processes stored in RAM because it takes more energy to start an app back up then to keep it idle.
Phoneguy589 said:
I have used ROMs that showed 575-620mb free but usually after rebooting. I'd say most ROMs will run from 400-500 free. But if you could, look on your phone under running apps and add up your used and free ram and post back.
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Here is a good article that explains much better how android works in regards to processes:
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
The "Addendum" at the end lays it out pretty bluntly
live4nyy said:
There's a huge misconception about how much RAM should be free at any given time. Honestly, the less RAM being used is actually better. That means processes are cued up for multitasking and it uses less resources to start them back up when used. Also, if you have any RAM left then that means you don't need any more because the phone will only use what it needs so if you have like 100MB of Ram available then that means you don't need it, but if you were at like 10 to 20MB free then I'd worry. But most people say they have like 200 available so there really is no reason to worry/complain. Plus, it's better for the battery to have the processes stored in RAM because it takes more energy to start a app back up then to keep it idle.
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If I add up the mb's of apps running right now it's less than 90mb but its showing 190mb is being used. That is including the media/motorola/stock junk on a fresh install of ninja. I haven't even opened market or added my google account yet.
live4nyy said:
There's a huge misconception about how much RAM should be free at any given time. Honestly, the less RAM being used is actually better. That means processes are cued up for multitasking and it uses less resources to start them back up when used. Also, if you have any RAM left then that means you don't need any more because the phone will only use what it needs so if you have like 100MB of Ram available then that means you don't need it, but if you were at like 10 to 20MB free then I'd worry. But most people say they have like 200 available so there really is no reason to worry/complain. Plus, it's better for the battery to have the processes stored in RAM because it takes more energy to start an app back up then to keep it idle.
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I understand your point, but it makes me wonder... Devices like SGS 1 for example, only have 512 MB ram. Based on how the Atrix and Galaxy S2 are said to have 1GB but in reality it only has 800ish MB, the SGS 1 will also have 400+.
Now, my atrix goes from boot to a usable state leaving me ONLY 471 MB of free ram, taking up 380+ (rounding numbers of course). Since the SGS 1 also runs on Android 2.3, the same thing should happen right? taking up 380MB out of it's 400+ MB of ram, leaving only 50 (rounding again) MB of RAM? Highly unlikely, if that was the case, only opening up the browser would take up those 50 "free" RAM.
I don't have a SGS with me to corroborate this theory but I'd bet the SGS starts up to a usuable state with 100-150 of free ram, using up only 250-300 MB of ram, why can't we pull that off from our devices?
It's not that I'm not against using the RAM on our devices, but only comparing how much RAM my device is using I can tell whether it's running efficiently or it has a resource Hog somewhere.
Phoneguy589 said:
If I add up the mb's of apps running right now it's less than 90mb but its showing 190mb is being used. That is including the media/motorola/stock junk on a fresh install of ninja. I haven't even opened market or added my google account yet.
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your phone is like a fat kid with a birthday cake. he's always going to take a few extra slices for himself and not share with anyone.
(system taking RAM and not sharing with any other processes)
I think it has to do with Motoblur using up more resources. It is so integrated into accounts and everything that it can't help but take up a bunch of RAM which is why they probably went with 1GB of RAM to begin with, they probably couldn't pull it off with just 512
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I understand your point, but it makes me wonder... Devices like SGS 1 for example, only have 512 MB ram. Based on how the Atrix and Galaxy S2 are said to have 1GB but in reality it only has 800ish MB, the SGS 1 will also have 400+.
Now, my atrix goes from boot to a usable state leaving me ONLY 471 MB of free ram, taking up 380+ (rounding numbers of course). Since the SGS 1 also runs on Android 2.3, the same thing should happen right? taking up 380MB out of it's 400+ MB of ram, leaving only 50 (rounding again) MB of RAM? Highly unlikely, if that was the case, only opening up the browser would take up those 50 "free" RAM.
I don't have a SGS with me to corroborate this theory but I'd bet the SGS starts up to a usuable state with 100-150 of free ram, using up only 250-300 MB of ram, why can't we pull that off from our devices?
It's not that I'm not against using the RAM on our devices, but only comparing how much RAM my device is using I can tell whether it's running efficiently or it has a resource Hog somewhere.
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So deblur is the way?
I use Bloat Freezer and the paid version of TiBu freezes apps too. I think there is a list of "safe" Blur apps to freeze somewhere. I'll see if I can find it.
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So deblur is the way?
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I found this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182663&highlight=apps+safe+to+freeze+list
But I'm sure there is an even more comprehensive list somewhere...
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I use Bloat Freezer and the paid version of TiBu freezes apps too. I think there is a list of "safe" Blur apps to freeze somewhere. I'll see if I can find it.
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great, thanks. Why do you use two freezers?
I don't, I just use Bloat Freezer. I was just pointing out that TiBu does it as well if you happened to have the paid version (which I don't).
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great, thanks. Why do you use two freezers?
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Hi all.
How much is the actually Total RAM on Optimus one.? I have 74 used and 323 free . Totally 397
I remember having more than 410 MB Free Ram before flashing Franco's zram. As the latest kernel doesn't require zram. I removed it using the remove-zram.zip . Expecting to get Back the lost ram. But I still don't get more than 397 . Please help to get back all the ram and can any body please post their running apps screen shot
..to compare it with mine
You're lucky dr.notor isn't here or he would have come up with some sarcastic reply to this question.
Having 13 MB of ram less than normal is no big deal. The system uses the difference (512-397) for its use. And the system usage keeps varying, so you will never have a constant amount of free ram available. I seriously doubt zram is the problem. Also, our phone has tons of ram so stop obsessing over it. I'm quoting a paragraph from an article on lifehacker.com:
The problem is that Android uses RAM differently than, say, Windows. On Android, having your RAM nearly full is a good thing. It means that when you relaunch an app you've previously opened, the app launches quickly and returns to its previous state. So while Android actually uses RAM efficiently, most users see that their RAM is full and assume that's what's slowing down their phone. In reality, your CPU—which is only used by apps that are actually active—is almost always the bottleneck.
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If you want to read the full article you can find it here.
anirudhnyg said:
Hi all.
How much is the actually Total RAM on Optimus one.? I have 74 used and 323 free . Totally 397
I remember having more than 410 MB Free Ram before flashing Franco's zram. As the latest kernel doesn't require zram. I removed it using the remove-zram.zip . Expecting to get Back the lost ram. But I still don't get more than 397 . Please help to get back all the ram and can any body please post their running apps screen shot
..to compare it with mine
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Total ram is always 418mb or a bit higher regardless of zram
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mihir287 said:
You're lucky dr.notor isn't here or he would have come up with some sarcastic reply to this question.
Having 13 MB of ram less than normal is no big deal. The system uses the difference (512-397) for its use. And the system usage keeps varying, so you will never have a constant amount of free ram available. I seriously doubt zram is the problem. Also, our phone has tons of ram so stop obsessing over it. I'm quoting a paragraph from an article on lifehacker.com:
If you want to read the full article you can find it here.
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thanks!.... I was just curious
Hi guys.
I read on the SE Xperia neo specs it comes with 512 MB RAM. However, my AnTuTu benchmark tools reads ~333MB. On ES Task Manager, including both used and unused RAM memory sums up to ~300.
I read somewhere this is because some of the RAM memory is the Adreno 205 GPU memory only.
Can anyone tell for sure?
evilRafael said:
Hi guys.
I read on the SE Xperia neo specs it comes with 512 MB RAM. However, my AnTuTu benchmark tools reads ~333MB. On ES Task Manager, including both used and unused RAM memory sums up to ~300.
I read somewhere this is because some of the RAM memory is the Adreno 205 GPU memory only.
Can anyone tell for sure?
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And thats it is!
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No, Android take a part for himself, almost 128MB
taaviu said:
And thats it is!
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I don't think this makes sense, anyone else know about this?
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No, Android take a part for himself, almost 128MB
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~320MB (from my readings)
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~128MB (for Android)
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~450MB
That doesn't make 512MB...
My phone got about 40MB free ram under normal......
What's wrong with it ...
Too many widgets and other random stuff running in the background.
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I don't think this makes sense, anyone else know about this?
~320MB (from my readings)
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~128MB (for Android)
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~450MB
That doesn't make 512MB...
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I noticed the same thing...
One part is taken by the GPU, another by Android itself.
william91 said:
My phone got about 40MB free ram under normal......
What's wrong with it ...
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What? Only 40 MB? In my old Xperia X8 i have got 60 MB i think your phone have got some problem =) in my neo there is normally 130-200 MB free.
150mb。。。。。
100mb+ here most of the time
100-150 mb.
2/3 of our ram is eaten up by the system which sux !!
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it's mentioned in features of xperia neo that it has 512MB of ram
well
in setting>application>running services
not only the amout of ram is not 512 but it changes using different ROMs for example in codename 9.2 i had 256MB and i codename 9.3 i have 320MB of rams
so i figured that there's gotta be a way to unlock the rest of it if i am right
any ideas ?
thanks
hossein7292 said:
it's mentioned in features of xperia neo that it has 512MB of ram
well
in setting>application>running services
not only the amout of ram is not 512 but it changes using different ROMs for example in codename 9.2 i had 256MB and i codename 9.3 i have 320MB of rams
so i figured that there's gotta be a way to unlock the rest of it if i am right
any ideas ?
thanks
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Dont think so bro
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Well, it is needed for gpu also. So some is dedicated to that. And a lot of other stuff that Sony thinks was necessary.
When devs give u increased ram, they know what they do,
trying to do to much of this stuff may permanently brick your phone.
So be happy with what u get....
" Always forgive your enemy, nothing will ever annoy him more."
First of all.
use a program to report totall ram
the built-in task manager is crap
It always reports random numbers.
Just a notice:
if you install v6 built-in manager will report way less total ram on gignerbread
(oh and the rest of the ram around 200mbs are used for your gpu camera and such things..