I haven't really been keeping up with the new phones and the ones coming out, I had no intention of selling my amaze anytime soon.. but I found this page(http://www.digitaltrends.com/highlight/t-mobile/) and saw they are still listing our amaze - I thought for sure websites would have stopped pushing it.. then I saw that tmobile is now selling the amaze for free! Damn you tmo!
But I was wondering what people thought about other phones that are coming out? I did some light researching and the galaxy s3 euro version looks pretty nice, with the quad core - why the US versions they keep pulling that out, I have no idea.. but 2100mah battery (that can be accessed!) and external sd, the camera pics and video look good(but still not as good as ours) - overall it seems a good competitor.
But rather than do tons more research, I'm sure some people here have some phones they are salivating about, or perhaps pissed off(dual core S2 for the US, wtf?!) about.. and I figured I'd say hi here rather than just stalk the development forums like usual!
So what's good?
I'm keeping it simple, first quad core HTC phone T-Mobile gets will be mine! Keeping my amaze until then
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For all phone goodies I check gsmarena.com
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Im going to wait for the Samsung note 2 with hopes that it will be sold in T-Mobile and quad-core.
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I'm keeping it simple, first quad core HTC phone T-Mobile gets will be mine! Keeping my amaze until then
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that is about how I feel, but I'm not a true htc cannot yet.. so I won't discriminate yet. My old vibrant was okay, but I felt the quality was low enough I'd be hesitant to go with Samsung again..
Everyone else is fair game, if another manufacturer makes a quality quad core, that is when I'd consider a jump from the amaze.. but I haven't been doing a lot of research into what is coming out till now.
And can ANYONE explain why these manufacturers thing quad core is good over seas, but dual core is what WE want? Or do they think we'll just buy it if they just sell it!?
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And can ANYONE explain why these manufacturers thing quad core is good over seas, but dual core is what WE want? Or do they think we'll just buy it if they just sell it!?
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That's because we US folks complain about battery life all the f**** time. Many will even sacrifice performance for battery life like underclocking the Amaze from 1.5 to 1.2Ghz. Sarcastically speaking... these folks will buy a quad-core only to find themselves again complain about battery life. What do they do? They will downgrade to dual-core to have a couple of more hours of battery. Companies are hearing these folks.
Flame on folks. Lol
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That's because we US folks complain about battery life all the f**** time. Many will even sacrifice performance for battery life like underclocking the Amaze from 1.5 to 1.2Ghz. Sarcastically speaking... these folks will buy a quad-core only to find themselves again complain about battery life. What do they do? They will downgrade to dual-core to have a couple of more hours of battery. Companies are hearing these folks.
Flame on folks. Lol
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that is true. But with the Galaxy s3 coming out with dual core here in the U.S, main reason is quad core exynos doesn't support LTE just yet.
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wait for one of the AOSP devices coming to Tmobile. Show these manufacturers that they need to stop focusing on coding unnecessary skins and leave the Android system vanilla, and instead focus on making better hardware that utilizes the power of the processing chips more efficiently in the way that WP phones do out of the box. and better cameras, better quality materials and most importantly, maximizing battery life.
i know i'll be going for whatever Jelly Bean device i'm assuming Tmobile will get. if not i'll just purchase whatever GSM unlocked one Google Play decides to sell.
Actually the reason why they us in the US are getting dual cores and not quads is due to a chipset issue, apparently only qualcom has the rights/patents to make modems for US bands, mainly the HSPA+ and LTE band we use, so in order to use those bands on the original chipset that they use for the international version, they'll have to add an extra chipset, the qualcom chipset modem, which will give you the US radio, but will increase battery use, which basically no company wants, apple does this but it's kicking their ass as well with multiple chipsets in a device. So you gotta thank US patents/copyrights along with qualcom for us being stuck with a dual core and at the rate things are going, we'll be pretty much stuck with what qualcom puts out yearly in our devices for quite a few years to come. Though if T-Mobile refarms that 1900 band we should be able to start picking up a few international versions and using them on T-Mobile, though I doubt T-Mobile as a carrier is gonna offer them if they're not packing 42mbps, until they throw out LTE.
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Actually the reason why they us in the US are getting dual cores and not quads is due to a chipset issue, apparently only qualcom has the rights/patents to make modems for US bands, mainly the HSPA+ and LTE band we use, so in order to use those bands on the original chipset that they use for the international version, they'll have to add an extra chipset, the qualcom chipset modem, which will give you the US radio, but will increase battery use, which basically no company wants, apple does this but it's kicking their ass as well with multiple chipsets in a device. So you gotta thank US patents/copyrights along with qualcom for us being stuck with a dual core and at the rate things are going, we'll be pretty much stuck with what qualcom puts out yearly in our devices for quite a few years to come. Though if T-Mobile refarms that 1900 band we should be able to start picking up a few international versions and using them on T-Mobile, though I doubt T-Mobile as a carrier is gonna offer them if they're not packing 42mbps, until they throw out LTE.
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Right on! All issues can be overcome if they really want it badly. It's a matter of time. Business wise, time is what many companies cannot afford due to competition. Supply and demand in an overly competitive industry is at stake.
I haven't seen anything I'd like to upgrade to. The amaze is more then capable for what I need out of a phone, and will be plenty fast for the next year. Phones just aren't progressing as fast as they did even a couple years back. When I first got my hero there was a newer faster phone out almost monthly. Even with quad core, yes it may be faster on paper, 'woohoo quadrant drag racing my phone beat your phone', but when it comes to day to day use how much faster can you really go? My hero, when I first played with it I could see room for improvement, with the amaze, not so much.
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I haven't seen anything I'd like to upgrade to. The amaze is more then capable for what I need out of a phone, and will be plenty fast for the next year. Phones just aren't progressing as fast as they did even a couple years back. When I first got my hero there was a newer faster phone out almost monthly. Even with quad core, yes it may be faster on paper, 'woohoo quadrant drag racing my phone beat your phone', but when it comes to day to day use how much faster can you really go? My hero, when I first played with it I could see room for improvement, with the amaze, not so much.
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Actually, you made some really valid points - I was talking to someone yesterday about how technology hasn't really improved THAT much in the last 20+ years besides a few things, pretty much everything is the same and it is just getting smaller and faster.. and that is more so true at this point. Phones, computers, until they do something different or better, the increases in speed is becoming meaningless.
For me the selling point on the quad core is the 5th core with the lower clock speed that handles the non-heavy lifting and is supposed to increase battery. I would probably just shut off 2 of the cores and keep that benefit.. If you actually understand how multi-core cpus work then you know that they each handle a different thread(or task) - it has no benefit having more than 2 cores unless there are more than 2 things that need to be done at once(like processing video and audio at the same time).
The BIGGEST change I would like to see with all of these advances in technology - make a better battery. The military has several battery technologies that are far more efficient than what we have access to.. as soon as those things go public, THEN we might have some true awesomeness.. until then we can only make things faster and/or more efficient.
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I haven't seen anything I'd like to upgrade to. The amaze is more then capable for what I need out of a phone, and will be plenty fast for the next year. Phones just aren't progressing as fast as they did even a couple years back. When I first got my hero there was a newer faster phone out almost monthly. Even with quad core, yes it may be faster on paper, 'woohoo quadrant drag racing my phone beat your phone', but when it comes to day to day use how much faster can you really go? My hero, when I first played with it I could see room for improvement, with the amaze, not so much.
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I couldn't agree more !
So much, I will more than likely keep this phone till next contract, which is a year plus away. Does everything I need.
I probably stand a lone ground on this, but with what I said up top.....I would consider a BB10 phone as long as it is QWERTY. Really miss my physical keyboard. If they can bring some better apps to the table with a decent screen and still decent battery, I may switch. I don't care about market share ....I get what I want, not what is in....
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As soon as they finish setting up the 1900 service, I will be buying an iPhone. Hopefully the iPhone 5 came out by then.
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I have been told several times to wait for the Thunderbolt to come out, and I'm kind of underwhelmed. It's got the same 1ghz CPU that phones have had for a year or so now, and if I read it correctly, 700 something mb of RAM. I didn't think they even released phones that had less than 1gb of RAM nowadays. I have heard people say that this phone stock is screaming fast, faster than hacked last gen phones. Can anyone explain to me what makes this phone so much faster? Should I go ahead and use my ugprade on this or wait for dual core phones?
Well, it's a second gen snapdragon processor which is faster and more efficient. 768MB of ram isn't low at all.
As far as dual-core phones go, you'll be waiting a bit to actually take advantage of both cores as Android isn't dual-core optimized yet.
The TB is fast, no question about that.
Also the dual core phones' battery consumption will be even worse on Lte. Finally exactly what do we need dual cores for?
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Exactly. Dual core has been talked for years and yet no one really makes software. My wife and I just switched from the mytouch 4G to the thunderbolt and it is way faster.
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I would say get the TB and by the time you are due for another upgrade they should have the software setup by then along with better batteries to make dual cores useful.
You should wait, definitely wait...
Of course, by the time those new better-than-the-Thunderbolt phones are actually available, you'll have waited 2-3 months and have been using your not-better-than-the-Thunderbolt phone for that much longer.
And then, when you can finally get those newer/faster/better phones in hand, they'll have announced that the quad-core phones with 5G will be out in 4-6 months and you'll be back here asking if you should wait for them.
I'm being facetious, so don't take it personally, it's not an attack on you. I'm just trying to drive home the fact that there is ALWAYS a better device on the horizon in 2-3 months, and that whatever you buy today won't be the top of the line device for very long. Just get what best suits your needs today at the price you want to pay.
For me, the Thunderbolt's a mixed bag. I love the VZW coverage and voice quality. LTE is amazing fast, it rivals my Verizon FIOS internet line on the download speeds in some tests. On the other hand, I'm just not thrilled by the TFT display. Not that it's bad, but I'm a real SAMOLED-addict and the lack of real blacks on this thing makes me nuts. It's a keeper, I don't plan on returning it, but I'm also the kind of guy who doesn't mind having multiple phones, on multiple carriers, and upgrading a device every quarter. (In just the last year I've gone through a Nexus 1, Galaxy S i9000, EVO 4G, iPhone 4, Nexus S. I still own and sometimes use each of those except the EVO (Sprint service in LA is just too slow). YMMV.
A bit offtopic I would wait for Samsung 4g. I love tb but it lacks nice app like readerhub, musichub, mediahub. I feel like Sammy is a tad ahead of HTC when it comes to apps
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I love it personally, id say go with it.
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For me, the Thunderbolt's a mixed bag. I love the VZW coverage and voice quality. LTE is amazing fast, it rivals my Verizon FIOS internet line on the download speeds in some tests. On the other hand, I'm just not thrilled by the TFT display. Not that it's bad, but I'm a real SAMOLED-addict and the lack of real blacks on this thing makes me nuts. It's a keeper, I don't plan on returning it, but I'm also the kind of guy who doesn't mind having multiple phones, on multiple carriers, and upgrading a device every quarter. (In just the last year I've gone through a Nexus 1, Galaxy S i9000, EVO 4G, iPhone 4, Nexus S. I still own and sometimes use each of those except the EVO (Sprint service in LA is just too slow). YMMV.
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What are you doing that you are not thrilled by the TFT display??? Anyone who uses a phone as a primary gaming or movie viewing device it whacked. A phone will never replace a quality TV, gaming PC, or xbox, and why would you want it to. The screen looks great. I just don't get it.
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I love it personally, id say go with it.
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I would get the thunderbolt now... Very nice phone and a great improvement over the DINC.
Love the big screen
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What are you doing that you are not thrilled by the TFT display??? Anyone who uses a phone as a primary gaming or movie viewing device it whacked. A phone will never replace a quality TV, gaming PC, or xbox, and why would you want it to. The screen looks great. I just don't get it.
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Nothing like gaming...I don't expect my phone to replace a gaming device.
There's no comparison of a TFT screen to a SAMOLED, though. Blacks on a SAMOLED are inky black...a TOTAL absence of color or light emissions. Blacks on the Thunderbolt are not real black...they're a back-lit purplish black. Bring up a pure black image full screen on the Nexus S and the Thunderbolt in a dark room at the same time. The Nexus S will emit zero light, the Thunderbolt will seem like a flashlight by comparison. It's just my preference; and like I said originally, not a deal breaker for me, I'm keeping the phone for all its other plusses, but the screen is not the best in my opinion...good enough, but not the best.
I was torn between this & the Bionic.
I love the dual-core concept with it's processing efficiency - that is, once Android can properly support & use it. If you buy the Bionic this summer you might not be able to take advantage of the 2 cores for several more months.
I hate the idea of a locked bootloader (like the Moto phones have). Once I saw that the Bolt was rooted pre-release, and had an unlocked bootloader within 36 hours I hatched a plan. I bought the Bolt on a 1 year plan (it is MUCH faster than my old Eris).
Part 2 of my plan: hopefully by next January when I can upgrade HTC will have a dual core or quad core that we can crack. This way I have better hardware for the next 10-12 months, an unlocked dual core next year, and a grandfathered-in unlimited 4g data plan. As a bonus, I might be able to sell the Bolt to help pay for it's replacement!
I have been waiting for the note to come to AT&T so I don't have the cost and risk of importing the international version. (I'm going to be with AT&T anyway so they may as well subsidise my costs).
My concern though is the commentary about how bad the snapdragon setup is vs the Sammy Ex CPU. Combine this with the extra drain on the battery from LTE and it's starting to look like a very gimped proposition in comparison to the international handset.
So my question is what is the real world difference between these handsets when it comes to CPU/GPU performance and battery life?
While I'd like to get this phone subsidized through AT&T I don't want to settle for a grossly inferior version of this excellent product.
Is this a half price Ferrari with a Fiat engine???
Extensive benchmarks and discussion are provided in the hands-on review in this very forum, re: CPU/GPU performance. Battery life is relatively under-discussed, however.
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I have been waiting for the note to come to AT&T so I don't have the cost and risk of importing the international version. (I'm going to be with AT&T anyway so they may as well subsidise my costs).
My concern though is the commentary about how bad the snapdragon setup is vs the Sammy Ex CPU. Combine this with the extra drain on the battery from LTE and it's starting to look like a very gimped proposition in comparison to the international handset.
So my question is what is the real world difference between these handsets when it comes to CPU/GPU performance and battery life?
While I'd like to get this phone subsidized through AT&T I don't want to settle for a grossly inferior version of this excellent product.
Is this a half price Ferrari with a Fiat engine???
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After all the ces coverage it got, I failed to notice any dicsernable difference in performance from the att version. The snapdragon processor is quite capable. If you have doubts, it should only be that 'some' devs will refuse to build roms for it because they feel that it is identical to the Skyrocket. And they apparently had so many problems deving for that. The device itself seems to run just fine for a high-spec superphone. As usual most people, maybe even you will probably consider running a different launcher to speed up performance even more. Such as Zeam- which is disgustingly smooth on nearly any android device. The battery life, from what ive heard, happens to be a standout feature on the device.
And in the end, if your market is getting lte this year, wont you want that 15ish mb data speed? Makes sense to me. rather than to go through the trouble of having to setup apns and such. Dont write it off just yet till you go into a store and test one out.
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If you have doubts, it should only be that 'some' devs will refuse to build roms for it because they feel that it is identical to the Skyrocket hd. And they apparently had so many problems deving for that.
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Skyrocket HD hasn't been released yet. No wonder they have so many problems deving for a phone that doesn't exist
they didn't necessarily have problems deving for it. They chose a device they were more comfortable with and impressed by. It also helped that the US version of the Orig gs2 came so late. All the real work was already done
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the didn't necessarily have problems deving for it. They chose a device they were more comfortable with and impressed by. It also helped that the US version of the Orig gs2 came so late. All the real work was already done
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I think he trying to say he believes you mean just skyrocket not the skyrocket HD which I don't believe has been released yet
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Honestly they're simply on par with each other. The international wins in some benchmarks, and ours wins in others. Our battery life will be just as amazing as the international unless you're doing lots of downloading with LTE
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Skyrocket HD hasn't been released yet. No wonder they have so many problems deving for a phone that doesn't exist
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I meant to say the skyrocket. Symantics aside, what I say is true. The only thing ive been seeing in the Infuse forum was people bashing the device for not being an Exynos-based phone. Which is just dumb, considering the fact that I, along with a lot of other people WANT lte. And I dont really think their will be any kind of noticeable difference in performance between the two processors. Besides, not many people can shell out 5-700 bucks for an international version. So the att subsidy is the only way to get one. Ide gladly have a few less roms, if i can save 2-300 bucks on the cost of the thing.
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I meant to say the skyrocket. Symantics aside, what I say is true. The only thing ive been seeing in the Infuse forum was people bashing the device for not being an Exynos-based phone. Which is just dumb, considering the fact that I, along with a lot of other people WANT lte. And I dont really think their will be any kind of noticeable difference in performance between the two processors. Besides, not many people can shell out 5-700 bucks for an international version. So the att subsidy is the only way to get one. Ide gladly have a few less roms, if i can save 2-300 bucks on the cost of the thing.
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Thanks for the feedback guys.
Battery is/was/will be my main conern. While LTE would be nice, I really wouldn't use it that much as I have WiFi at work and home, so the concern was that LTE would just nuke my battery in 6hrs when I don't really care about it. On the flip side I have a grandfathered true unlimited plan for $30 so at least I can make full use of LTE should I need/want to.
On the processor front, I am coming from 4 years of iPhone ownership so I know I am going to have an expectation of smooth non-laggy performance in every aspect of the phone's use. I'm no Apple fan boi, but Ihave to acknowledge the quality of the UI experience on that phone and don't want to have to make excuses for less than premium performance on an Android 'Super Phone'.
I feel confident that the international version delivers on all these fronts judging from the stellar reviews it has received from so many sources, I just hope the AT&T version can continue to deliver the standards it's International cousin has set.
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Thanks for the feedback guys.
Battery is/was/will be my main conern. While LTE would be nice, I really wouldn't use it that much as I have WiFi at work and home, so the concern was that LTE would just nuke my battery in 6hrs when I don't really care about it. On the flip side I have a grandfathered true unlimited plan for $30 so at least I can make full use of LTE should I need/want to.
On the processor front, I am coming from 4 years of iPhone ownership so I know I am going to have an expectation of smooth non-laggy performance in every aspect of the phone's use. I'm no Apple fan boi, but Ihave to acknowledge the quality of the UI experience on that phone and don't want to have to make excuses for less than premium performance on an Android 'Super Phone'.
I feel confident that the international version delivers on all these fronts judging from the stellar reviews it has received from so many sources, I just hope the AT&T version can continue to deliver the standards it's International cousin has set.
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From what we've seen from the Korean version, and the AT&T version at CES and a couple lucky people that have had early hands on, it's just as fast and smooth as the Exynos version. Just with LTE baked in.
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From what we've seen from the Korean version, and the AT&T version at CES and a couple lucky people that have had early hands on, it's just as fast and smooth as the Exynos version. Just with LTE baked in.
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Damn shame that we don't really know anything about the LTE Note's battery life... really is the most important thing in a smartphone
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From what we've seen from the Korean version, and the AT&T version at CES and a couple lucky people that have had early hands on, it's just as fast and smooth as the Exynos version. Just with LTE baked in.
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This, and on top of that, the LTE radio doesnt constantly search for signal. If you dont have it, then it wont be used. Likewise, If your not downloading anything, then setup a toggle on the homescreen to turn on/off data completely. Your problem is solved. I do this all the time with my infuse. When data is off all i can do is make calls and texts, all while saving a ton of battery life.
If your expectations are truly too high though, and youve never even touched an Android phone---there is absolutely no reason for you to try to make any comparisons at all between this and iOS. They are 100% different in so many aspects, and 0% the same in just as many. I came from an iPhone 3g after almost 2 yrs. The infuse was my first android phone, and I have to say-I wasnt expecting all the cool things that I experienced. At first its like the Iron curtain was lifted, and it became sooooooooo much easier to do everything I actually always wanted to do with a phone.
As far as Att's involvement in the phone is concerned. You CAN expect the usual bloat. But on phones these days, its easy enough to ignore. put them in a folder at the end of your apps list, done. Its like they were never there. once we have root on the device as well, its open season man. Youll be able to get all the apps you need to control every aspect of the phone that you can think of. Which is a godsend to any smartphone user. Especially if battery life is concerned.
In the end, you will NEVER stop learning, and finding out cool new things about any android phone. And I doubt you will ever look at apple products the same. This is coming from a self-proclaimed ex-Apple fanboy.
^ never owned an apple product but you hit the nail on the head with Android...there is always something new and exciting to try...
but if you think inside the ibox...best stay with it.
Android definitely has a learning curve, and is never ending fun if you think outside
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From what we've seen from the Korean version, and the AT&T version at CES and a couple lucky people that have had early hands on, it's just as fast and smooth as the Exynos version. Just with LTE baked in.
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Good to hear.
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^ never owned an apple product but you hit the nail on the head with Android...there is always something new and exciting to try...
but if you think inside the ibox...best stay with it.
Android definitely has a learning curve, and is never ending fun if you think outside
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Very well said.
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I might have to wait to see this in person :
http://www.bgr.com/2012/02/27/samsu...-1-5ghz-quad-core-1080p-display-ceramic-case/
http://techcrunch.com/2012/02/27/th...d-1-5ghz-4-8-inch-1080p-display-ceramic-case/
June? If so any regret?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1516924
[RUMOR] and source is BGR....a serious RAG of a blog.
Of course there will be bigger better phones coming out around every corner. I think we all understood quad-core phones were coming soon.....but most of us got The Note for it's screen size.
Regrets, NO
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I stopped reading at "BGR".
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I might have to wait to see this in person :
http://www.bgr.com/2012/02/27/samsu...-1-5ghz-quad-core-1080p-display-ceramic-case/
http://techcrunch.com/2012/02/27/th...d-1-5ghz-4-8-inch-1080p-display-ceramic-case/
June? If so any regret?
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No regrets for following reasons:
I was NOT gonna hang on to my old Cappy for another 5 months when the old girl had barely been chugging along since the fall.
I will believe the hype around quad-core processors when I see it in action. Hard to believe that performance will so outpace dual-core processors by enough for the casual user (me) to notice, and I'm also nearly certain that the first quad-core devices will be battery chompers.
-Ryan
Love my Note, regrets = NO.
but's it's battle for my wife S3 or IP5
Mortem Tuam said:
[RUMOR] and source is BGR....a serious RAG of a blog.
Of course there will be bigger better phones coming out around every corner. I think we all understood quad-core phones were coming soon.....but most of us got The Note for it's screen size.
Regrets, NO
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Yeah me too I read it at http://techcrunch.com/2012/02/27/th...d-1-5ghz-4-8-inch-1080p-display-ceramic-case/ which cited BGR.. still (its own quad didn't surprise me) but 1080p!
Still curious about its battery & speaker/s (hopefully more impressive than the Note's speaker). Would it have been so hard for Samsung to launch the Note with ICS in February? Does the Nexus have some kind of phone ICS exclusivity until March as some Samsung rep suggested to me at the Note launch..?
ryandelman said:
No regrets for following reasons:
I was NOT gonna hang on to my old Cappy for another 5 months when the old girl had barely been chugging along since the fall.
I will believe the hype around quad-core processors when I see it in action. Hard to believe that performance will so outpace dual-core processors by enough for the casual user (me) to notice, and I'm also nearly certain that the first quad-core devices will be battery chompers.
-Ryan
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The quad core battery efficiency is God-like, actually. All quad cores are going to have an "idle core" like Tegra 3 has to rely on when sleeping/under light load. My experience with transformer prime is that quad cores give sick performance and WONDERFUL battery life. I imagine this is why all of these new superphones announced at MWC today that are using he new Krait S4's (dual core but 28nm process makes it very efficient) and Tegra 3 processors have 1800 maH batteries or less. We'll see but I expect battery life to be sick on these phones, based on my experience with Tegra 3 thus far.
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Everyone knows iBGR is not a reliable source..
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While I have no faith in the reliability of these two sources and as a result don't pay much mind to anything that they and other such sites write, I still find reading the comments section of articles like those very much entertaining.
For example,
Person 1: What will be the marketing price?
Person 2: Most coments sayng its fake :O
Person 1: Even I think so .. It dont even have single button ..
What Apple cant even do
Uh. Galaxy Nexus? Hmmm. Some of those iSheep never cease to amaze me with their ignorance.
Another common topic:
"um. doesn't ceramic shatter ridiculously easily?"
"Won't it shatter if you drop it?"
"Ceramic = Heavy as hell? no?"
Granted, they are stating it in a question form, showing they truly don't know **** about ceramics and their wide array of characteristics. At least there are some other comment posters that know about ceramics and will hopefully quell the blind ignorance. It just amuses me when people spew about a product and bash it about something that they are completely wrong about. People need t do more research.
Lastly, I love when people bash a phone over it's size. That's just blatant bias in the most obvious form.
"I don't see the value in making the screen 4.8" (what happened to normal sized phones?)"
4.8" may not be normal to some, but it is perfectly normal to somebody with large hands such as myself. In fact, using an iPhone is cumbersome to me, so their normal sized phone is in fact "not normal" to me. I hate when people state their own opinions and biases as fact. I will see my note as a big middle finger to all people who care about my phone's size. It's my phone, piss off and worry about your own life. I already have people shocked with the size of my Infuse, and I just laugh saying it's the best phone I've ever used by far, mostly due to the size. However, that is not true for everybody, and I let them know that I like the size of such phones because my hands are huge.
How can you state something like the "phone is too big"? It should be, "this phone is too big for me." See what I did there? removing bias makes your statements so much less controversial and fanboy hate-inducing. Most of these people fail to realize that nobody really gives a flying fack about some other random person's opinion on the internet. Or at least they shoudn't, but sadly (or maybe more entertainingly) people get dragged into arguments on tech blogs all due to the fact that they cannot recognize bias and opinion, and cannot distinguish between those and fact. I can't believe these tech sites get away with so much heavy bias and still continue to rack up the views. Granted, I contributed a view, but an unbiased one at that.
I don't have any problem with people commenting on these sites with their opinions about a device, but they should leave it at that, an opinion, and not try to state it as fact. Overall, I am proud of Android users in the way that they tend to be the more calm, collect, and unbiased commenters compared to a lot of iSheep. Both sides have their radicals, but I think the Apple slaves tip the scales with crazy. Haha. Provides good entertainment to say the least. =]
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The quad core battery efficiency is God-like, actually. All quad cores are going to have an "idle core" like Tegra 3 has to rely on when sleeping/under light load. My experience with transformer prime is that quad cores give sick performance and WONDERFUL battery life. I imagine this is why all of these new superphones announced at MWC today that are using he new Krait S4's (dual core but 28nm process makes it very efficient) and Tegra 3 processors have 1800 maH batteries or less. We'll see but I expect battery life to be sick on these phones, based on my experience with Tegra 3 thus far.
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I'm glad someone with TF201 experience spoke up, I still want to see a TF700 series with its 1080p display+improved GPS-wireless.
In all the coverage at MWC of quad core phones with these smallish batteries, I'm still surprised there aren't more inquiries into battery life specs..especially with LTE.
BTW, why didn't AT&T include a LTE off switch for the I717?
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They never did for any phone, not even a 3G off switch for 3G phones. Easier to push you into the data overage and charge you more $$$.
BTW, current Tegra 3 phones are not compatible with LTE radio. So, if and when GS3 comes to AT&T, it may not be Tegra 3. It has already been confirmed that HTC's new One X for AT&T will be Snapdragon S4 dual-core instead of Tegra 3.
However, according to the reports, Tegra 3 compatible LTE radio chip will be available 2 months down the road. So, that could be why GS3 is delayed.
Hope AT&T doesn't do what they did with the HTC One X and turn that quad core into a dual core snap dragon for the LTE radio
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They never did for any phone, not even a 3G off switch for 3G phones. Easier to push you into the data overage and charge you more $$$.
BTW, current Tegra 3 phones are not compatible with LTE radio. So, if and when GS3 comes to AT&T, it may not be Tegra 3. It has already been confirmed that HTC's new One X for AT&T will be Snapdragon S4 dual-core instead of Tegra 3.
However, according to the reports, Tegra 3 compatible LTE radio chip will be available 2 months down the road. So, that could be why GS3 is delayed.
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No LTE switch hacks?
"1.5GHz quad-core Samsung Exynos processor" unlike current Tegra 3 is supposed to be LTE compatible.
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"1.5GHz quad-core Samsung Exynos processor" unlike current Tegra 3 is supposed to be LTE compatible.
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It's the other way around. Currently most LTE smartphones use Qualcomm radio chip which supports HSPA+ and LTE. But current chip requires Qualcomm CPU. There is a new chip from Qualcomm out soon that supports CMDA, HSPA+ and LTE and will drop the Qualcomm CPU requirement. That will be the chip used in iPhone5.
So, unless Samsung packs its own LTE radio chip AND AT&T is willing to accept Samsung's LTE radio, it's not going to work.
Price
what will be the price of this phone??
Scythe024 said:
Hope AT&T doesn't do what they did with the HTC One X and turn that quad core into a dual core snap dragon for the LTE radio
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The Qualcomm dual core beats the nvidia quad core in benchmarks.
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That actually is one of the rumors going around the web...it may have the quad and compatible lte radio.
Looks like the one x did drop its rumored quadcore as well.
As you have seen me post befor..."sammy" told me on the 11th that the s3 will have the next gen snapdragon 1.5 dual core because of heat/battery consumption
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It's the other way around. Currently most LTE smartphones use Qualcomm radio chip which supports HSPA+ and LTE. But current chip requires Qualcomm CPU. There is a new chip from Qualcomm out soon that supports CMDA, HSPA+ and LTE and will drop the Qualcomm CPU requirement. That will be the chip used in iPhone5.
So, unless Samsung packs its own LTE radio chip AND AT&T is willing to accept Samsung's LTE radio, it's not going to work.
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That actually is one of the rumors going around the web...it may have the quad and compatible lte radio.
Looks like the one x did drop its rumored quadcore as well.
As you have seen me post befor..."sammy" told me on the 11th that the s3 will have the next gen snapdragon 1.5 dual core because of heat/battery consumption
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That's the rumor, also I wouldn't be surprised to see the following as its rear camera sensor:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/27/samsung-8mp-backside-illuminated-zsl/
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That's the rumor, also I wouldn't be surprised to see the following as its rear camera sensor:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/27/samsung-8mp-backside-illuminated-zsl/
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better camera sensors are great but would be nice to see optics upgraded and talked about more. Megapixles and sensors are important but optics are what makes great pics.
Without a doubt, HTC and tmo have released some pretty amazing devices, Sensation, Amaze, Mytouch 4g slide, etc... Now, the One is coming to tmo, would you upgrade to it?
Here's my opinion, apperently, the model Us carriers will get will be dual-core, because apperently LTE is not compatible with quad core CPUs. I think one of the disadvantages of getting the One is that when LTE comes out, we won't be able to use it. But, tmo's 4g is pretty good already. So, would I upgrade? Yes. Hd screen, ICS with sense 4.0, 8mp cam, to take 1080p vids and pics at the same time, pretty good.
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Title is misleading because it is, also yes I will upgrade. I'm very big on photo's and the camera wouldn't be the same on the Amaze, the sensors are outstanding! Smart Flash! Sense 4.0 and way more development because the ones are a world phone! It's faster than the amaze and all benchmark test that i have seen and its running stock! Imagine custom roms! Even thought quadrant itsn't everything! Plus its smaller and thinner. Beats audio integration throughout the whole phone! I know dsp manager is their but i hate opening it all the time. So yes when it comes out I am getting the one s hands down! Also! the one S is dual core so theirs no LTE Problem im pretty sure Tmo will make it so we can use our phones otherwise thats bad marketing. Also a better front camera which will help with video conferencing I can't wait.
One X
Its a very nice phone, definitely some nice minor upgrades over the amaze but to me it isn't worth it. I've decided to stick with the amaze and see what the Galaxy S III has to offer. I want a quad core phone with an Hd screen, I won't settle for something with capacitive buttons(with the amaze as an exception) especially now that android 4.0 supports buttons on the touch screen.
It's funny how when people hear that the US version is getting a dual core instead of the quad core people assume it's worse but in fact the Snapdragon S4(Dual Core) is faster than the Tegra 3(Quad Core) and US carriers will be getting a better phone than the UK.
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It's funny how when people hear that the US version is getting a dual core instead of the quad core people assume it's worse but in fact the Snapdragon S4(Dual Core) is faster than the Tegra 3(Quad Core) and US carriers will be getting a better phone than the UK.
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Ikr! Its like the AMD P920 (Quad) and the Intel i5 (Dual) ones Dual ones quad but intel kicks that possessors A**. Plus a lot of apps aren't customized for Multi core anyway.
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Ikr! Its like the AMD P920 (Quad) and the Intel i5 (Dual) ones Dual ones quad but intel kicks that possessors A**. Plus a lot of apps aren't customized for Multi core anyway.
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Plus were using phones, a quad core which actually has 5 cores would use more power than the Snapdragon S4. That is why I don't overclock my phones. Unless I can keep the voltage the same. A phone is meant for making calls and to in keep contact with people.
What would you rather have a Core i7 2600 or a FX-8150 which is slower and consumes more power but has 4 more cores?(Which are actually modules but AMD product management sucks and decide to advertise them as eight core processors)
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Plus were using phones, a quad core which actually has 5 cores would use more power than the Snapdragon S4. That is why I don't overclock my phones. Unless I can keep the voltage the same. A phone is meant for making calls and to in keep contact with people.
What would you rather have a Core i7 2600 or a FX-8150 which is slower and consumes more power but has 4 more cores?(Which are actually modules but AMD product management sucks and decide to advertise them as eight core processors)
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I have an i7 2600K and 4 Crossfired AMD 6990's and that thing is a power hog, but the possessor isn't a thing with phones.
I know the minute i get an HTC One device, and find a happy home for my amaze, google wallet will be available for the amaze 4g.. With some awesome promo. Not that much of an upgrade. Im perfectly happy with my camera. Not worth it. I have a standard camera for that.
I forgot which Android blog, but I just read about a "reliable" rumor that tmo is gonna get the one x without lte capabilities (ie the international quad-core version, cuz the hspa+ is good enough they say) and it's likely going to be a "G" device - like the G1, G2, etc. which means it'll be vanilla ics.
If this is true I know exactly where every single dev is going...and I'm gonna try my hardest to follow, haha.
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I've been following the hands-on reports and such from Barcelona. All I can say is,
Take everything with a grain of salt, the reporters in Barcelona are sometimes getting their facts wrong,
Details about what will be sold in the US are still not finalized,
Real world testing and independent benchmarking of the total package have not happened,
The One S (remember, T-Mo isn't getting the big dog One X) has a smaller battery, it could have even worse battery life issues,....
I'm disappointed in the chronic problems I've had with the Amaze ... I might upgrade if T-Mobile gets tired of supporting my Amaze! But ... I've just read that T-Mo might only offer the "painted" model, not the one with the plasma-anodized aluminum.
I understand the use of the S4 processor is because the LTE radio is integrated in the chip (not a separate component as in the Amaze) ... Euro LTE markets will get the S4 as well.
I understand the Tegra3 is a 4+1 chip, with a "low-power chip" for "sleep mode." Dunno if the S4 has anything comparable. Based on what I've read, I'm not sure the Tegra is better than the S4.... Anyway, AT&T's getting the S4 too, and ... I'm not sure if will be a 32GB or 16GB version of the One X.
The lack of removable battery, and lack of Micro-SD slot, are giving a lot of people concern on AndroidCentral and other Android sites. What good is a hot diggity 1080p video recorder if you only have some subset of 16GB (9GB like our Amaze?) to record with, then have to slowly upload to Dropbox? Humbug.
Also, the screen of the One S is no more higher res than the Amaze. Same size. In fact, the One X and S have a similar body to the Amaze, leading me to think the Amaze was the "first draft" of a design concept.
I think while some media sources are drinking the Kool-Aid and proclaiming the One series as the best thing since integrated circuit chips, my own impression is that both S an X comprise some glaring compromises (size for battery, cool unibody case for user-replaceable memory card).
Would I upgrade? Well ... much was made of the dedicated camera buttons on the Amaze, and guess what's noticeably missing from the One models? I used those buttons all day at the Monterey Bay Aquarium earlier this month....
ChromeJob said:
I've been following the hands-on reports and such from Barcelona. All I can say is,
Take everything with a grain of salt, the reporters in Barcelona are sometimes getting their facts wrong,
Details about what will be sold in the US are still not finalized,
Real world testing and independent benchmarking of the total package have not happened,
The One S (remember, T-Mo isn't getting the big dog One X) has a smaller battery, it could have even worse battery life issues,....
I'm disappointed in the chronic problems I've had with the Amaze ... I might upgrade if T-Mobile gets tired of supporting my Amaze! But ... I've just read that T-Mo might only offer the "painted" model, not the one with the plasma-anodized aluminum.
I understand the use of the S4 processor is because the LTE radio is integrated in the chip (not a separate component as in the Amaze) ... Euro LTE markets will get the S4 as well.
I understand the Tegra3 is a 4+1 chip, with a "low-power chip" for "sleep mode." Dunno if the S4 has anything comparable. Based on what I've read, I'm not sure the Tegra is better than the S4.... Anyway, AT&T's getting the S4 too, and ... I'm not sure if will be a 32GB or 16GB version of the One X.
The lack of removable battery, and lack of Micro-SD slot, are giving a lot of people concern on AndroidCentral and other Android sites. What good is a hot diggity 1080p video recorder if you only have some subset of 16GB (9GB like our Amaze?) to record with, then have to slowly upload to Dropbox? Humbug.
Also, the screen of the One S is no more higher res than the Amaze. Same size. In fact, the One X and S have a similar body to the Amaze, leading me to think the Amaze was the "first draft" of a design concept.
I think while some media sources are drinking the Kool-Aid and proclaiming the One series as the best thing since integrated circuit chips, my own impression is that both S an X comprise some glaring compromises (size for battery, cool unibody case for user-replaceable memory card).
Would I upgrade? Well ... much was made of the dedicated camera buttons on the Amaze, and guess what's noticeably missing from the One models? I used those buttons all day at the Monterey Bay Aquarium earlier this month....
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Agreed, not much more to say. Excellent summary, my good man. Haha
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I have an i7 2600K and 4 Crossfired AMD 6990's and that thing is a power hog, but the possessor isn't a thing with phones.
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You can't crossfire 4 6990's.... I have a Core i7 970 overclocked to 4.6ghz with 2 GTX 470's in SLI overclocked at 825Mhz
ChromeJob said:
I've been following the hands-on reports and such from Barcelona. All I can say is,
Take everything with a grain of salt, the reporters in Barcelona are sometimes getting their facts wrong,
Details about what will be sold in the US are still not finalized,
Real world testing and independent benchmarking of the total package have not happened,
The One S (remember, T-Mo isn't getting the big dog One X) has a smaller battery, it could have even worse battery life issues,....
I'm disappointed in the chronic problems I've had with the Amaze ... I might upgrade if T-Mobile gets tired of supporting my Amaze! But ... I've just read that T-Mo might only offer the "painted" model, not the one with the plasma-anodized aluminum.
I understand the use of the S4 processor is because the LTE radio is integrated in the chip (not a separate component as in the Amaze) ... Euro LTE markets will get the S4 as well.
I understand the Tegra3 is a 4+1 chip, with a "low-power chip" for "sleep mode." Dunno if the S4 has anything comparable. Based on what I've read, I'm not sure the Tegra is better than the S4.... Anyway, AT&T's getting the S4 too, and ... I'm not sure if will be a 32GB or 16GB version of the One X.
The lack of removable battery, and lack of Micro-SD slot, are giving a lot of people concern on AndroidCentral and other Android sites. What good is a hot diggity 1080p video recorder if you only have some subset of 16GB (9GB like our Amaze?) to record with, then have to slowly upload to Dropbox? Humbug.
Also, the screen of the One S is no more higher res than the Amaze. Same size. In fact, the One X and S have a similar body to the Amaze, leading me to think the Amaze was the "first draft" of a design concept.
I think while some media sources are drinking the Kool-Aid and proclaiming the One series as the best thing since integrated circuit chips, my own impression is that both S an X comprise some glaring compromises (size for battery, cool unibody case for user-replaceable memory card).
Would I upgrade? Well ... much was made of the dedicated camera buttons on the Amaze, and guess what's noticeably missing from the One models? I used those buttons all day at the Monterey Bay Aquarium earlier this month....
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It's kind of hard making a quad core more efficient than a dual core when all 4 cores are going to be running constantly without powering off. If anything the HTC One X will have the same amount of battery as the One S. On HTC's website it has the specs and the Battery on the One S is a 1650 mAh and the One X is 1800. The screen on the One S is a Super AMOLED screen which is a major improvement over any of HTC's old screens.
The One X US version is getting a dual core:
http://www.htc.com/us/products/htconex-att#tech-specs
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You can't crossfire 4 6990's.... I have a Core i7 970 overclocked to 4.6ghz with 2 GTX 470's in SLI overclocked at 825Mhz
It's kind of hard making a quad core more efficient than a dual core when all 4 cores are going to be running constantly without powering off. If anything the HTC One X will have the same amount of battery as the One S. On HTC's website it has the specs and the Battery on the One S is a 1650 mAh and the One X is 1800. The screen on the One S is a Super AMOLED screen which is a major improvement over any of HTC's old screens.
The One X US version is getting a dual core:
http://www.htc.com/us/products/htconex-att#tech-specs
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I put cross fire bridges on the first two and the second two...
ChromeJob expressed it better than I could. Keeping in mind that I'm probably older than the majority of the main demographic here and I consider my phone a tool more than a trendsetter, fashion statement, toy, and so forth, I don't see what's so great about the One S compared to the Amaze.
As I said in another subforum, the HTC One S is HTC's vision of an iPhone that runs ICS. Make key components non-user-removable, wow the press with hype, remove physical buttons (camera), dog it with some of the hardware (VGA FFC), and (likely) charge customers out the ass for it.
Also, while I did say that I don't care to have a phone as a fashion statement, aesthetics still matter in the sense that they could be a tiebreaker in deciding between phones that are otherwise close in specs. The styling of the One S is bland to me.
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ChromeJob expressed it better than I could. Keeping in mind that I'm probably older than the majority of the main demographic here and I consider my phone a tool more than a trendsetter, fashion statement, toy, and so forth, I don't see what's so great about the One S compared to the Amaze.
As I said in another subforum, the HTC One S is HTC's vision of an iPhone that runs ICS. Make key components non-user-removable, wow the press with hype, remove physical buttons (camera), dog it with some of the hardware (VGA FFC), and (likely) charge customers out the ass for it.
Also, while I did say that I don't care to have a phone as a fashion statement, aesthetics still matter in the sense that they could be a tiebreaker in deciding between phones that are otherwise close in specs. The styling of the One S is bland to me.
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+1 all the One S has over the amaze is s4 processor (which i believe is better than t3) dual channel ram, and maybe a slightly better camera. (im sure its just software though)
I will not be upgrading. I can't express how good of a phone the amaze is. Its very unique looking (front maybe looks like a sensation but the back is very nice) it has an amazing build quality, it out preforms my daily tasks. Phone/SMS/Video/Pictures and a game here and there. The Amaze is still a great phone and i believe it will still be a good phone even when T3 and S4 chips come out. Once we achieve S-OFF i think there will be more developers for the amaze.
I dont know how you guys are upgrading so fast. I recently got my Amaze, and this phone just came out in oCtober of last year? not even 6 months ago. It is still a pretty expensive phone. I would rather stick with amaze love the camera and recording buttons, the 2mp front facing camera, the amazing 8Mp camera, and how reliable it is, no dropped calls or anything
I've preordered the HTC One X from Expansys. I have an Amaze and love it (I'm typing this post on it)....but I'm still excited to get the quad core version of the One X...
Wasn't me!! I didn't do it!
I'm not sure if this has been mentioned already but I read last night that the X one my come to tmobile as the next G series phone and my be stock Ics!!!
Check it out over here at the rumor farm -
http://androidandme.com/2012/02/sma...e-to-get-stock-android-4-0-and-quad-core-cpu/
Too bad I really needed a new phone in December. Otherwise this was exactly what I was waiting for! O well...
Good thing about owning the amaze is its new enough to where when the new line rolls out, we can sit back for a bit, watch development, and catch it at a better price down the road
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I'm happy with the screen on the Amaze, SuperLCD? I've had a SGS2 owner admit that mine has nicer color, clarity, etc.
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It's funny how when people hear that the US version is getting a dual core instead of the quad core people assume it's worse but in fact the Snapdragon S4(Dual Core) is faster than the Tegra 3(Quad Core) and US carriers will be getting a better phone than the UK.
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The one s has a dual core, the overseas version of the one X has a dualcore. I'm not sure about the S4, i hear its nice but what has me leaning to the quadcore is that i hear it has a small core to help save battery?
Hey guys, I've got kinda a two parter question..
The first is this, do you think the SGS2 will be able to keep up as a leading Android phone or at least pretty high end for another year or two? Also will development keep up for much longer? Or would it be more logical to wait for the SGS3 and go for that?
And, assuming it would stay active and strong, do you think the price would drop once the SGS3 comes out dramatically? As in is it worth getting it now or should I wait for the SGS3 one way or the other.
Thanks in advanced!
The hardware of the sgs II is pretty nice. As you can see, the xperia s and the new htc smartphones (one s, one x) got sgs II-hardware.
This means our lovely galaxy will stay at top of all for at least a few more month. Then the sgs III will be released.
Thanks to apples 4s, htc one s x and the xperia s the sgs II is nowhere near being outdated.
One more thing, 4.3 inch is the limit for me! I dont see why people would buy the sgs III with a 4.65 inch display.
thats true haha, the size is the thing that worries me... however the screen covers more of the front so im thinking the actual SIZE of the phone won`t be that much greater
I can get a rooted with ICS installed SGS2 for 400$... is that good you think?
the only thing pulling me to SGS3 is how much longer itll probably last than the SGS2 just being released over a year later... but price worries me of it too since people are guessing over 800 and thats too much for me :S
Also would be nice for continued dev support
Try and get it cheaper without root and ICS as you can apply both of those yourself with all the guides available here. I'm not sure what the selling price is for the gs2 is in $, so the price you quoted could be cheap as it is lol
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Try and get it cheaper without root and ICS as you can apply both of those yourself with all the guides available here. I'm not sure what the selling price is for the gs2 is in $, so the price you quoted could be cheap as it is lol
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Yeah no they're all around 400$ give or take 25, all i would need is to make sure that the screen has NO scratches and that it works XD the root and ICS was just a bonus haha
I'm guessing it's probably best to get a phone that hasn't been flashed or altered. At least that way you'll know the original firmwares etc of the phone.
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I'm guessing it's probably best to get a phone that hasn't been flashed or altered. At least that way you'll know the original firmwares etc of the phone.
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That's a good point... less risky. My main thing is, is the SGS3 gonna be worth the 2 month+ wait and the extra like 300$+... waiting isn't a big deal, 300-400 dollars is XD
Pretty much in the same boat as you. My contract with Sprint will be up this Summer, so looking into a GS3 (or other quadcore handset). I've heard the GS3 may launch next month in England, though not sure about the rest of the world. I've read conflicting reports on whether there will be a unified global launch, so it's possible N. America will have to wait until Fall again.
Another thing to note is that while Tegra 3 is benchmarking better than all the dual core ARM processors out there, it performs really poorly compared to Apple's A5X chip. Given this, it's probably not a stretch that SG3's Exynos 3 will outperform it as well. There's also Snapdragon, though that isn't expected until Q4.
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Another thing to note is that while Tegra 3 is benchmarking better than all the dual core ARM processors out there, it performs really poorly compared to Apple's A5X chip. Given this, it's probably not a stretch that SG3's Exynos 3 will outperform it as well. There's also Snapdragon, though that isn't expected until Q4.
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That's probably because the iPad 3 has a quad core gpu. Plus you have to remember Tegra 3 was already late to the game. It was supposed to be out last summer but as usual Nvidia can never deliver anything on time!
Also no apps seem to be using more than 2 cores. Most are only utilizing 1.
The quad Exynos will only come close to the A5X gpu performance if they use at least a dual core Mali 600.
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One of the main reasons im considering the SGS3 is cause i think that android and apps are starting to become optimized for more than single core.
For me though the main selling point isn't actually the GPU, but rather the huge battery (anything over 2k is awesome!) and the tons of RAM, nice internal storage, SD card, and if this phone is any indication, probably good dev support I would get the HTC One S if it werent for the no SD card and pretty small battery :/
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Also no apps seem to be using more than 2 cores. Most are only utilizing 1.
The quad Exynos will only come close to the A5X gpu performance if they use at least a dual core Mali 600.
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Really? That's unfortunate. I thought ICS automated much of this, though I suppose it makes sense that each developer would need to add support from their end.
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I would get the HTC One S if it werent for the no SD card and pretty small battery :/
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I know. The Nexus Prime has that issue as well. I'd imagine flashing ROMs would be unnecessarily complicated, since they have one giant partition.
lucidox said:
I know. The Nexus Prime has that issue as well. I'd imagine flashing ROMs would be unnecessarily complicated, since they have one giant partition.
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I'm not so sure about that, i think it wouldn't cause too much trouble, but the thing is with 16 gb of internal memory, after ICS and sense and bloat, that'll leave probably less than 10gb of actually usable memory which is too little for me in the long run :/
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Really? That's unfortunate. I thought ICS automated much of this, though I suppose it makes sense that each developer would need to add support from their end.
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I believe it is up to the developer. Same as hardware acceleration.
Hell even Adobe Photoshop only used a single core all the way up to CS5.
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I would just go for the S2 as soon as the retailers in your area starts to sell them out cheap (to get rid of stock before launch of S3).
It's a great phone, still getting updates from Samsung - resulting in great mods from the XDA community.
And when the time comes that you'll be needing more power, just overclock it - extending the lifetime of it (for your use, NOT the phone itself).
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I would just go for the S2 as soon as the retailers in your area starts to sell them out cheap (to get rid of stock before launch of S3).
It's a great phone, still getting updates from Samsung - resulting in great mods from the XDA community.
And when the time comes that you'll be needing more power, just overclock it - extending the lifetime of it (for your use, NOT the phone itself).
IamSnah
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Yeah that was definitely one of things I was considering, IF the price drops by saaay.. 30%? Bring it from 600 to 400 new, I think I could go for that. But if the SGS3 is less than 800 its definitely in my radar
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This sounds very much like the deliberation I have when buying any new piece of tech, such as a laptop, always looking for the next new thing and wondering whether to wait or take the plunge now.
I would vote for an SGS2. It's a super phone with a massive modding community behind it to at least push it for another 1.5 to 2 years. I've had mine since July of last year and I'm only now seeing other phones catching up so you certainly would be behind the times with an SGS2.