So I got my GS3 in the mail last night, overnight shipping is an amazing thing. The phone looks and feels great, I'm very pleased with it in all ways imaginable but one....my battery is dropping power like theres no tomorrow.
I left my device to do a full charge over night. Unplugged it when I left for work at 7:45am. It is now 9:35am and my battery went from 100% to 83% with the majority of that time spent in sleep mode. The built in battery monitor was showing my display taking 71% of my battery power....thats insane. I got it so late last night that all I had time to do was setup my sim card and configure the phone with my personal data. I haven't even installed anything yet. All screens are still factory default.
I'm at work currently and just did a full factory reset. Battery usage on display now shows 53% and increasing. I have dropped brightness to nothing and still the display is leeching power. At this point I don't know what to do.
Karnalsyn said:
So I got my GS3 in the mail last night, overnight shipping is an amazing thing. The phone looks and feels great, I'm very pleased with it in all ways imaginable but one....my battery is dropping power like theres no tomorrow.
I left my device to do a full charge over night. Unplugged it when I left for work at 7:45am. It is now 9:35am and my battery went from 100% to 83% with the majority of that time spent in sleep mode. The built in battery monitor was showing my display taking 71% of my battery power....thats insane. I got it so late last night that all I had time to do was setup my sim card and configure the phone with my personal data. I haven't even installed anything yet. All screens are still factory default.
I'm at work currently and just did a full factory reset. Battery usage on display now shows 53% and increasing. I have dropped brightness to nothing and still the display is leeching power. At this point I don't know what to do.
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What is your actual screen on time?
killing is my business, And business is good.
compared to many of the other battery posts it seems like yours might have a bad one, not sure. That drainage doesn't sound normal but I have no hands-on exp with the phone yet
Karnalsyn said:
So I got my GS3 in the mail last night, overnight shipping is an amazing thing. The phone looks and feels great, I'm very pleased with it in all ways imaginable but one....my battery is dropping power like theres no tomorrow.
I left my device to do a full charge over night. Unplugged it when I left for work at 7:45am. It is now 9:35am and my battery went from 100% to 83% with the majority of that time spent in sleep mode. The built in battery monitor was showing my display taking 71% of my battery power....thats insane. I got it so late last night that all I had time to do was setup my sim card and configure the phone with my personal data. I haven't even installed anything yet. All screens are still factory default.
I'm at work currently and just did a full factory reset. Battery usage on display now shows 53% and increasing. I have dropped brightness to nothing and still the display is leeching power. At this point I don't know what to do.
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You sir, just need to use your phone more to calibrate the battery.
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1.u need to charge ur phone at least 4 hours
2.then download battery calibration software from app store
after downloading click calibrate.it will b ok.
try to avoid restart ur phone again n again.
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Yeah I would give it a day or two to stabilize..... use it as much as you can.....I at least can see how you would be concerned, but don't be....it will get better.
You MAY have a bad battery but it is WAY to early to start thinking that.
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say thanx to god that u dnt have htc one x.htc one x is battery sucker phone
Any advice on a reliable\trustworthy battery calibrator app?
And yea, I understand I may have got my hands on a (hopefully) rare bad battery. But the display usage seems extreme to me. I suppose that'll be adjusted with calibration though?
Sorry for my noobiness. Prior to receiving this SG3 I was an Iphone4 user with an Asus Transformer TF101 tablet. Got the tablet after the iphone to experience the android OS for the first time, which is what led me to exchange my iphone for a SG3. I have some working knowledge of Android, but strictly from a tablet perspective.
To my knowledge battery calibration on this device is the same as the S2....which means calibration apps a deleting battery stats does not work. The best calibration you can do at that point is to pull the battery for like five minutes and then put it back in.
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do you have service at work? if not, that might be the reason
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Ok, I'll do a full charge on the battery then pull it. I'll drop it back in after 5mins and report back if there is any change in the usage display.
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Ok, I'll do a full charge on the battery then pull it. I'll drop it back in after 5mins and report back if there is any change in the usage display.
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Are you using wifi by any chance?
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Yeah if havent yet run it flat i would pretty much ignore everything the battery stats and status bar tell you.
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Yes I use wifi. I have little to no use for data plans, so I typically buy my cell phone at full price to eliminate high monthly fees (canada data rates are retarded), and ensure I'm not locked into a contract.
So yes, I always run wifi so when I'm at a location with wifi I get some added functionality.
On or off however, the affect on the drain is not even noticeable.
I'm still continuing my phone charge to 100%. This time I'm using a power outlet rather than a computer usb port. We'll see if things are any different when its done. Currently at 98% and charging.
Well the battery showed 100% at 10:53
Pulled battery and put back in at 10:58
By 11:01 battery% dropped to 98%
Guess all I can do now is try and drain the battery completely and then try another full charge.
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11:25 battery is now 95%
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Yes I use wifi. I have little to no use for data plans, so I typically buy my cell phone at full price to eliminate high monthly fees (canada data rates are retarded), and ensure I'm not locked into a contract.
So yes, I always run wifi so when I'm at a location with wifi I get some added functionality.
On or off however, the affect on the drain is not even noticeable.
I'm still continuing my phone charge to 100%. This time I'm using a power outlet rather than a computer usb port. We'll see if things are any different when its done. Currently at 98% and charging.
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I knew you were using wifi. Look at my topic a little bit below yours. It's called the "Battery Drain almost solved."
It's wifi that is killing your battery. Have it set to turn off when it enters deep sleep. The WiFi is not regulating it's power draw. When your phone sleep wifi stays on like you are downloading something when it should be turning off and sleeping as well.
I'm trying to make this more widely known so Samsung can fix it.
I did see that post before starting my own, which is why I turned wifi off completely to test my own battery issues before posting. But I saw no difference in battery performance. And the display usage still showed 60-70% use of the battery, even with brightness turned low and the screen spending most of its time in sleep
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sigh, now the phone is making look the fool because I decided to test again with wifi turned off and I'm noticing a slight improvement in battery longevity. Display usage still shows a scary 55% of usage even it the screen remains off 90% of the time and I just wake it up to view current battery stats
as far as i remember, a gui of mobiflip has mentioned that you should deactivate the dlna/wifi direct option in the settings of your s3. don't know if this helps
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dlna/wifi direct option are off by default and are still off when I went in and checked. S-Beam and NFC are active by default though, so I've now turned those off...will test further
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So currently I'm testing the phone with wifi always on but the sbeam and nfc services disabled. (also, I'm leaving the screen ON and not letting it sleep...so I can actively monitor its progress with screen activity)
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12:45 85%
12:55 84%
13:05 81%
13:15 79%
13:35 76%
13:45 74%
edit3: (now turning off wifi completely and gps, leaving screen ON still)
13:50 73%
14:00 72%
14:10 70%
14:20 68%
14:30 67%
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Hi,
I'm currently using JuicePlotter to see how my battery drains over time and this past night I think it drained more than it should (or maybe not).
For the ones who don't know, JuicePlotter runs in the background (of course) analyzing your battery, that too wastes battery juice of course. Thought, the app dev says on his website:
Perhaps the most important feature of JuicePlotter is that - unlike all similar apps and widgets - it's very battery friendly;
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So I'm not sure if the problem lies on JuicePlotter or not, I'll have to test it one night without it...
This is how JuicePlotter displays it's graph:
The coloured bands along the graph show your screen brightness, radio usage, charging status and battery temperature. Just scroll around to find precise information and make sense of the different colours.
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I went to bed at 4:10 with the battery at 97%. Around 13:00, it was at 89% and I didn't receive any calls/messages/mails/whatever during the night. The WiFi/3G was off all night along with the screen of course. The battery temperature remained the same too. I don't know if it makes a difference but I normally turn off Auto-Sync if the WiFi is off too.
Is it normal to lose 8% of battery juice in 9h in standby? I think it's a bit too much, but I don't know... Does the same happens to you too? What else cloud it be?
Interesting looking app. I've never noticed much of a lose overnight. Just installed the app, will fully charge and give you an update tomorrow.
Also how's the cell reception in your area? I've heard it can drain the battery a far bit if the reception is low.
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I'll have to do more testing but I think it's the app's problem... Tonight, I went to bed with 83% and it was exactly the same when I woke up...
I fully charged mine last night and turned on JuicePlotter. Still showing 100% this morning. Both in the app and on the phones battery indicator (in the notification bar). Do you know of any other apps similar to this that could be run in tandem?
Weird, Battery Graph also does the same thing...
This needs more days of testing on my part...
My battery goes from 100% - 0% in about 16hrs... doesn't matter how much I use the phone or not.
I have BatteryGraph but the results don't really mean anything to me as it just shows battery life vs time on a scale.
I'll try JuicePlotter to see if I can pin down exactly what's causing my terrible battery life.
I have a feeling it's running at full speed even when in standby but I'm not sure how to check if this is the case. Any ideas?
EDIT: Looking at BatteryGraph I've lost 15% in around 1hr... nothing unusual going on with my phone that I know about... just standard stuff running in the background. Perhaps the battery itself is simply past it's best.
CitizenLee said:
My battery goes from 100% - 0% in about 16hrs... doesn't matter how much I use the phone or not.
I have BatteryGraph but the results don't really mean anything to me as it just shows battery life vs time on a scale.
I'll try JuicePlotter to see if I can pin down exactly what's causing my terrible battery life.
I have a feeling it's running at full speed even when in standby but I'm not sure how to check if this is the case. Any ideas?
EDIT: Looking at BatteryGraph I've lost 15% in around 1hr... nothing unusual going on with my phone that I know about... just standard stuff running in the background. Perhaps the battery itself is simply past it's best.
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Wow that is terrible, try apps like Taskpanel and when you add programs to your auto kill list the program kills the programs as long as they are running in the background when the screen is off, however if you are on lets say your browser and you don't go to your homescreen the screen goes off into stand by it will not kill the app. Also try draining your battery to the point it shuts down by itself, plug it in let it charge for a bit, boot into recovery wipe battery stats start up the phone or leave it off (your choice) and let it charge fully. Are you using setcpu or OC Widget or anything? If you are using SetCPU make a profile for when screen is off and make it underclocked like 264 Mhz to 480Mhz, or with OC Widget tick the 'use different screen frequencies' (don't remember what it is called since I don't use it) and do the same; I like SetCPU better because when you turn the screen on it switches profile faster where as OC Widget takes its time however with SetCPU do not use the widget it will cause Sense to FC and I'm not sure about Vanilla.
Hope this makes sense since all my ideas are said at once.
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The way I've learned to recalibrate the battery is to let it go down to 5%, boot phone into recovery and wipe batterystats, then power off the phone. Let the phone charge until the green led is on without turning it on. Then turn on and use the phone as usual. Learned it over at modaco. Worked as a charm, and batterytime was improved. I have personally experienced strange batterybehaviour after periods with flashing a lot of roms.
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Here.
That's interesting...
Cause I've been playing with ROMs latetly, creating my own, testing hacks and stuff... And most of the time the phone is plugged and the battery is charged, during the flashing process it's using the battery and then it charges again. I also have to leave from time to time and when I get back I continue my stuff, meaning I'm charging the battery at high levels.
I'll have to try that calibrate method...
For now, for the past 2 nights, with JuicePlotter off, I've noticed the battery level did not change at all during the night. Tonight I'm going to try one more time with JuicePlotter on...
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Wow that is terrible
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Wiped battery stats at 5% last night, let the phone die and then charged whislt off until green light came on. Been keeping an eye on it all day and there has been a noticable improvement.
The phone came off charge at around 2am (so around 12hrs ago) and it has only lost 20%, which is a lot better than I was getting before.
It was probably just due to me messing about with some many ROMs and update zips lately as I tend not to have too much crap running in the background (I use OSMonitor).
I will look into setCPU but I remember trying it before with VR12 and it ended up causing some weird problems meaning I needed to do a full wipe to get everything working again.
Thanks for the help
This night, with JuicePlotter on, I only lost 1%, seems reasonable now... I don't know why that one time I lost 8% during the night. Maybe an isolated case? Something was probably running when it shouldn't, I just don't know what.
Ive noticed serious battery drain since I first bought this fascinate from telus. On 2.1it lasted around 11 hours. Since upgrading to 2.2 leak, id say 8 hoirs max with only approx 1 hour of uusage and the rest on standby. I turned of sync, auto brightnrss and turned brightndss as.low as possible. I make sure no apps r running in the background. Yet it still dies superfast. Is this a issue with my battery thr phone itself or firmware or kernal. Its been a week of trying to find the problem so any help would b greatly appreciated. At tgis time im running 2.2 leak with all the files it came with and no root. Thx in advNce
And hour and 12 minutes with about 30 min of internwt surfing and im down to 80 percent WTF
I update OTA last week on Verizon to Froyo 2.2. My battery was overheating and draining like crazy from my CPU usage being at a constant 99%..
I found the source of the problem. An app I use for facebook called "FLOW". The CPU usage was cut to 20% when I killed it with "Advanced Task Killer".
I resolved the issue by: Opening Flow.. going to Preferences.. Notification Settings.. Refresh Type.. Checked Periodic Polling (I was using Gmail Experimental previously)
Hope this helps...
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And hour and 12 minutes with about 30 min of internwt surfing and im down to 80 percent WTF
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sounds about average for a fascinate....
I'm on telus as well and also have terrible battery life, I've found no fix other than completely turning off Data using the toggle when holding the power button. Flashing a new rom might fix this but I've been to scared to since I bricked a phone trying it the first time. Hopefully when/if ever we get a 2.3 update it fixes this
Does anyone know where one can get an extended battery for this? I picked one up but it's for the friggin Verizon US version, and the battery cover isn't compatible, even though the battery fits(camera doesn't align, speaker's not even close).
Seriously, the American counterpart's accessories have been my biggest frustration with this phone, next to battery life...
Thought I'd give this a bump. The battery life on this Telus Fascinate 4G is truly disappointing and jumping through hoops trying to find and kill apps and services with and without utilities is wasting far too much of my time.
Anybody get a good handle on this?
Bump for same problem.
Samsung Fascinate SCH-i500 Verizon
Running unmodified and unrooted. The phone itself works perfect. No problems other than the phone seriously eats battery. Yes the battery is still good and nothing wrong with it. Plugged in it charges super slowly. And the screen itself takes more than it provides. So i did the following.
A. Changed battery to a known working one.
B. Check with car charger and a home charger. As well as official samsung charger.
C. Gave a ROM a try. Running Dirty Unicorn. Lowered cpu to 800 max and 100 min.
D. Turned display to 50% Brightness.
My only try now is to try a different kernel or something. Im also thinking that the display itself is the culprit somehow eating to much voltage.
Or the gpu. The phones operating temps are good.
I have another post here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2430393 relating to where i have a USB problem and need help figuring it out. There has not been any replies. So i am taking upon myself to learn more. Ive worked with 3 Droid Milestones. Hopefully these two i500s will not be to hard. I need help on this new i500 to see if its not the motherboard. The charging port is on the motherboard and if this replacement eats batteries , then the point would be mute to use it for a working USB. A conundrum.
Do i try a different kernel or somthing else. Whats my next step.. Please help.
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Samsung Fascinate SCH-i500 Verizon
Running unmodified and unrooted. The phone itself works perfect. No problems other than the phone seriously eats battery. Yes the battery is still good and nothing wrong with it. Plugged in it charges super slowly. And the screen itself takes more than it provides. So i did the following.
A. Changed battery to a known working one.
B. Check with car charger and a home charger. As well as official samsung charger.
C. Gave a ROM a try. Running Dirty Unicorn. Lowered cpu to 800 max and 100 min.
D. Turned display to 50% Brightness.
My only try now is to try a different kernel or something. Im also thinking that the display itself is the culprit somehow eating to much voltage.
Or the gpu. The phones operating temps are good.
I have another post here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2430393 relating to where i have a USB problem and need help figuring it out. There has not been any replies. So i am taking upon myself to learn more. Ive worked with 3 Droid Milestones. Hopefully these two i500s will not be to hard. I need help on this new i500 to see if its not the motherboard. The charging port is on the motherboard and if this replacement eats batteries , then the point would be mute to use it for a working USB. A conundrum.
Do i try a different kernel or somthing else. Whats my next step.. Please help.
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what else do you have running?
what is the battery life overall usage? and screen usage hours?
screen is always gonna be the highest consumer of your battery
50% still pretty high unless you are out in sunlight, I keep mine between 0 and 30 % unless in sunlight
you can try running the greenify app from playstore.
what king of life are you expecting to get? anywhere between 6hrs to 24 hours total phone battery life is about average depending on how heavy user or how much in standby mode.
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hhp_211 said:
what else do you have running?
what is the battery life overall usage? and screen usage hours?
screen is always gonna be the highest consumer of your battery
50% still pretty high unless you are out in sunlight, I keep mine between 0 and 30 % unless in sunlight
you can try running the greenify app from playstore.
what king of life are you expecting to get? anywhere between 6hrs to 24 hours total phone battery life is about average depending on how heavy user or how much in standby mode.
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Its been on the charger since i posted. its only at 56%
3h 25m left
Screen 55%
Cell Standby 9%
SystemUI 7%
com.maxmpz.audioplayer 7%
Android System 7%
Its defiantly got something wrong as even though it says 56% if I unplug it, it will die in about 10 min. Even with a fully charged battery it does the same. Yes i also waited until 100% and wiped batt stats and at 3% left wiped stats. Screen is in standby
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Its been on the charger since i posted. its only at 56%
3h 25m left
Screen 55%
Cell Standby 9%
SystemUI 7%
com.maxmpz.audioplayer 7%
Android System 7%
Its defiantly got something wrong as even though it says 56% if I unplug it, it will die in about 10 min. Even with a fully charged battery it does the same. Yes i also waited until 100% and wiped batt stats and at 3% left wiped stats. Screen is in standby
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I would recommend going here
[APP][2.1+][16 Apr. - V1.13.4] BetterBatteryStats
you can get better logs and information, plus if something is not easily visible to what is causing problems you can post up a log file for them to look at.
enjoy
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hhp_211 said:
I would recommend going here
[APP][2.1+][16 Apr. - V1.13.4] BetterBatteryStats
you can get better logs and information, plus if something is not easily visible to what is causing problems you can post up a log file for them to look at.
enjoy
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I had installed the program and it didn't really show anything abnormal. Although after installing the Bat Meter, when i shutdown it killed the phone till i ODIN. So tried on the other phone as well. Same thing. Install it and compared notes. Reboot phone and had to ODIN. So maybe bad app? Well whatever. I didn't see anything unusual. Although I did notice something strange about the phone that's bad with charging. I already eliminated the battery as the problem as well as charger. But the phone that is eating battery faster than it can charge, it gets warmer at idle than the other phone. It charged just super super tiny faster than the battery eats using just idle display on lock-screen. As well this phone also with a fully charged battery will read 100% But after about 21 minutes of poweramp at 33% volume on headphones will read about 52%. Then sitting rest at idle no display from 52% down to about 14% popup around another 5 min. Then completely dead in about 3 minutes. And the phone is pretty warm. Today it was ambient temp of around 87* outside and sitting in shade and it was hot enough that it wasn't comfortable on my cheek for more than 20 seconds. Half the time the temps are normal. Now remember I'm not running overclock and actually under clocked to 800. Ive tried 3 different roms with diff kernels and same. Could it possibly be a bad heat-sink? And the extra heat is killing battery?
[Q] Battery Drain
I recently was given a Fascinate and am having similar problems. I was told the phone had a bad battery, so I ordered a replacement. Once I got the new battery in, I flashed the phone with the Carbon ROM [the phone was unlocked, but running the OTA 2.3.5 I believe]. Everything seemed to be working fine the first week or two, but now there appears to be a serious battery drain or leak after I power the phone down. I can charge the phone to 100%, power it on and use it for a period of time, then power it down with 90% or more battery life, but when I turn the phone back on, the battery will either be really low, or completely dead, where the phone won't respond at all until I plug the charger back in.
I reflashed the phone with an AOKP ROM to see if that'd make a difference, but it didn't. I tried using the first battery and the drain/leak still persists. The commonality between the two roms is the Devil kernel, so I'm going to flash a different ROM with a different kernel to see if that makes a difference. I also installed the app mentioned above to log the battery stats/usage to see if anything stands out there.
Has anyone experienced something similiar - the Fascinate consuming battery life while powered off?
Yeah the power off leak does seem to exist.
Can't remember the cause though.
I've not tried to really confirm,, but try popping the battery out then back in after you have powered off,,, then check after it has sat overnight to see if drain still exist..
Mine i just always leave on a charger overnight.
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Thanks for the reply. I'll try that. I've left the phone on today, just put it to sleep during periods of inactivity, and the battery is currently at 75% with occasional mild use after 8+ hours "on".
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After almost two weeks of use, I can confirm that if I power the phone down and do nothing else, the battery will continue to drain to 0%. If I power the phone down then remove and replace the battery, it's fine. It's an extra step, but it works. Thanks again.
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Yeah the power off leak does seem to exist.
Can't remember the cause though.
I've not tried to really confirm,, but try popping the battery out then back in after you have powered off,,, then check after it has sat overnight to see if drain still exist..
Mine i just always leave on a charger overnight.
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Hey all,
Having a few battery issues, hope someone can help.
1st issue is - i went from 100% charged to 70% in 1 hour. Yes i was using the phone the whole time but i was doing simple things like just setting up all my 7 home screens. Brightness is set all the way down to low (0), no auto brightness and i even have the dim screen setting on as well. I checked the battery usage and it said screen took up 50% of battery loss. Surely this isn't normal? I was only pretty much setting up my screens and settings, nothing intensive!
2nd issue is - I have noticed that even though the phone says it's charged to 100%, i have downloaded a few third party battery widgets/apps for confirmation and MOST/ALL says phone is still charging and not 100% even though the stock battery/phone says it is!
also battery circle and 2x battery when they finally reach 100% even though stock phone battery has reached 100% quiet sometime ago, as soon as i pull the power cord out it immediately drops to 99%.
WHAT'S GOING ON!
Any help?
=)
Thanks in advance!
1st issue is - i went from 100% charged to 70% in 1 hour. Yes i was using the phone the whole time but i was doing simple things like just setting up all my 7 home screens. Brightness is set all the way down to low (0), no auto brightness and i even have the dim screen setting on as well. I checked the battery usage and it said screen took up 50% of battery loss. Surely this isn't normal? I was only pretty much setting up my screens and settings, nothing intensive!
The screen is the biggest user of power on any touch screen phone. It not only has the display but it also incorporates the touch portion as well. Using it 1 hr strait constantly and using touch that loss really isnt too bad. Just the display on by its self is bad but touching not only uses more juice but it also jumps up the CPU while touching.
2nd issue is - I have noticed that even though the phone says it's charged to 100%, i have downloaded a few third party battery widgets/apps for confirmation and MOST/ALL says phone is still charging and not 100% even though the stock battery/phone says it is!
Moto Phones report in 10% increments. It may show 100% even though its not. to fully charge turn the phone off and plug it back in. It should continue to charge. Look into something called bump charging. Essentially its just involves the user turning the phone on and off and plugging it in until it reads 100% immediately without charging.
also battery circle and 2x battery when they finally reach 100% even though stock phone battery has reached 100% quiet sometime ago, as soon as i pull the power cord out it immediately drops to 99%.
Another common thing with phones. I have had multiple phones that do this. Nothing to worry about. Its just how the system is reporting it. Its NOT a power loss or anything. Part of the issue is from what I am hearing is the lithium batteries are fully charge (100%) at a certain level which is only maintained while plugged in which is why it shows 99% immediately when unplugged.
WHAT'S GOING ON!
Nothing, its a 4G smartphone
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WHAT'S GOING ON!
Nothing, its a 4G smartphone
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Lmao! Yup...
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thanks for the response ddemlong.
hrm.. well now u got me thinking... i'm in australia so don't have 4g?
can i turn this function off?
we have 3g and that's about it.
if that saves juice then all the better!
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Go settings - wireless and networks - mobile networks
U can choose ur 2g/3g settings there
Mine is XT910S from Korea.
I always dial *#*#4636#*#* and the phone will show an advanced menu where you can see the imei as well as choosing from a long drop down list of Mobile data settings.
starscream. said:
thanks for the response ddemlong.
hrm.. well now u got me thinking... i'm in australia so don't have 4g?
can i turn this function off?
we have 3g and that's about it.
if that saves juice then all the better!
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You can turn it off under the network settings like others have stated. Turning off 4G here with our phones in the US can increase battery life significantly. 4G radio is #2 or #1 in the power drain depending on what you are doing.
I must say, with it being a AU version I am not sure if it even has the 4G radio inside, I would have to look into the GSM versions; or if someone with a non US phone could chime in and advise.
I personally just leave my 4G on all the time. I live in a great 4G area so the phone doesn't waste power searching for 4G signal. However when I download something 10mbps or more really does hit the battery hard if you do some big downloads or stream movies/music. I have no issues with charging it every day.
The time of charging your cell phone once or twice a week is gone.
So in the last few weeks, my standby time has gone down a great deal. I have power efficiency and power saver turned on. All of my accounts are on manual sync and I don't sync them because I am trying to get an idea of what is sucking away my power. My screen brightness is set to 20% and I hardly use my phone for calls during the day as I use my desk phone for that. Wifi and bluetooth are disabled. I really have a love/hate relationship with this phone.
Anyone have any ideas?
I'm actually on the same boat. Just this morning I unplugged it...battery said 100% then 4.5hrs later its down to 17%. The phone was running pretty hot too...I even mentioned it too my wife and she said it was pretty hot. Not doing too much with it while it happened. Just woke up ...poked around on xda and fb. Then took my lil one to the bus stop while taking the dog for a walk..come 11oclock my phone was at 17%....I'm gonna wipe and start all over..hopefully it gets whatever is causing the issues. I usually get a good 10-16 hrs depending on use.
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Have you tried using a different battery? I bought an anker battery online and it turned out to be better than the stock battery. Maybe my stock one was faulty,can't really explain. But you should try it.
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download badass battery from the market, it will tell you everything!
Two days ago my amaze started doing what you describe,battery life from 100% to 10% in about 5 hrs MAX, also the phone was very hot, so I pull out the battery but with no results. I notice that 4g was always downloading data, I verified the running services on the phone and discover the calendar apk was rebooting like crazy...the real problem was peep calendar sync was somehow stuck and after turning it to manual voilá! problem solved, temperature goes down, 4g stopped working and battery stopped draining. hope this help think you may found a solution verifying running services.
My amaze is 100% stock.
What helped my battery life was reducing sync frequency. Coming from a MT4G, I was used to updating work mail every 5 minutes. Changed all my sync timers to 1 hour and my battery life improved from 6 hours (including standby) to over 20 hours. I also disabled wifi increased performance (I had previously enabled it) and used medium brightness. A shame, that last one, because the screen is beautiful at full brightness.
That's weird. I have everything synced and I still get about 6 hours a day of use. Of course not heavy use though.
OK, I installed badass battery. I also turned off the weather widget. I removed my phone from the charger at 730am this morning and at 330pm, my battery is at 95% according to badass battery. I also turned off the wallpaper I was using that was displaying 4 clocks in 4 diffent time zones. I wouldn't have thought that those 2 things would drain the battery like it was.
Like I said........Love/Hate relationship.
I installed screen filter from the market last night and used it to turn off the backlight from the hardware buttons, and I also reduced the sync frequency like someone else said (and turned some useless ones off completely). I unplugged my phone at about 8:50 a.m. this morning. It is now 7:53 p.m., and my battery has only lost 22% of its charge (unheard of for me after 11 hours). Don't know which of those helped more, but my battery life is definitely a lot better.
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I installed screen filter from the market last night and used it to turn off the backlight from the hardware buttons, and I also reduced the sync frequency like someone else said (and turned some useless ones off completely). I unplugged my phone at about 8:50 a.m. this morning. It is now 7:53 p.m., and my battery has only lost 22% of its charge (unheard of for me after 11 hours). Don't know which of those helped more, but my battery life is definitely a lot better.
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Wow! I wish I had battery power like that. I was on NRG's ROM but found the battery to be draining pretty fast (~7 hours with moderate use). I installed fourth bar sense last night because of all the positive battery reviews I heard. Removed my charger at 700AM, it is now almost 830AM and I am at 88% with light use (drained too fast for 1.5 hours in minimal use IMO). I am trying to control the syncing and its auto-brightness
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Wow! I wish I had battery power like that. I was on NRG's ROM but found the battery to be draining pretty fast (~7 hours with moderate use). I installed fourth bar sense last night because of all the positive battery reviews I heard. Removed my charger at 700AM, it is now almost 830AM and I am at 88% with light use (drained too fast for 1.5 hours in minimal use IMO). I am trying to control the syncing and its auto-brightness
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Auto-brightness will never help you save battery. The best option IMO is 20 - 33% brightness
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OK, I installed badass battery. I also turned off the weather widget. I removed my phone from the charger at 730am this morning and at 330pm, my battery is at 95% according to badass battery. I also turned off the wallpaper I was using that was displaying 4 clocks in 4 diffent time zones. I wouldn't have thought that those 2 things would drain the battery like it was.
Like I said........Love/Hate relationship.
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That's almost too hard to believe! You don't have Gmail?
Are you rooted and using a custom rom?
Really depends on what's running, live wallpaper will definitely suck the life out of a battery but other apps do as well. I installed an auto loan program once and over the next couple of days my battery life seemed possessed, you could almost watch it drain, 60, 59, 58.... so I uninstalling things and when I got to that it went back to normal. Not sure what causes this, sloppy programming, nefarious evil things, who knows. I never have always connected anything, that's just asking for a kick me. I also use custom roms and that really makes a big impact on the plus side. I get a good full day of pretty heavy use out of my amaze but I also have a spare Anker battery just in case, that to me is cheap insurance especially on the road.
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Auto-brightness will never help you save battery. The best option IMO is 20 - 33% brightness
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That's almost too hard to believe! You don't have Gmail?
Are you rooted and using a custom rom?
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I do have Gmail. Should I be checking something here? As far as root and custom ROM? No it is bone stock.
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I installed screen filter from the market last night and used it to turn off the backlight from the hardware buttons, and I also reduced the sync frequency like someone else said (and turned some useless ones off completely). I unplugged my phone at about 8:50 a.m. this morning. It is now 7:53 p.m., and my battery has only lost 22% of its charge (unheard of for me after 11 hours). Don't know which of those helped more, but my battery life is definitely a lot better.
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I am not sure how that is possible as I wouldn't think the soft key lighting would suck much battery life, not to mention I use that app and get no where near those hours. I know sync will increase it, but that much? Got a screen shot of this claim?
Even in stand by mode, the battery drops more than 30% for me in 8 hours if I forget to charge it overnight.
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This is my 4th note. The 3 I had previously the battery lasted a long time. I kept the same battery from the first one in all three exchanges. I took the new battery for this fourth one. Could this battery be a bad one or should I return the phone again for a 5th time. I don't wanna take a chance getting a phone with the problems I had on the other 3.
Just looking for some opinions
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Good Lord, 3 exchanges! Wow... try running the battery all the way dead where the phone shuts itself down, keep it on the charger and charge it overnight (or in the realm of 8 hours) while leaving it off and see if that makes a difference. I ran my batt that way once and I'm getting 18 or so hours per charge (depending on how much I play with it).
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Good Lord, 3 exchanges! Wow... try running the battery all the way dead where the phone shuts itself down, keep it on the charger and charge it overnight (or in the realm of 8 hours) while leaving it off and see if that makes a difference. I ran my batt that way once and I'm getting 18 or so hours per charge (depending on how much I play with it).
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Yea I tied that. Doesn't seen to make a difference. I hopes its just the battery cuz that way I can just buy a new battery
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Could it really be a defective battery? Seems more like battery drain would be a phone hardware issue. All the batteries are made the same right?
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I have horrible battery life as well
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Reflash your modem, rom, and kernel. See if that helps
I only get about 3 hours of screen time myself. Seems normal for this phone. The huge screen eat up battery fast. Plus if your using LTE, so good bye to your battery.
I don't think you have a bad phone, That's just how it is in my opinion...
so whats your total at the end.. like say.. 5%..?
If you're getting about 3hrs screen time, I'd say you'd be on par with what I'm getting. Some days I can eek out close to 5 hours screen time, usually on the weekends when im at home and on WiFi.
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so whats your total at the end.. like say.. 5%..?
If you're getting about 3hrs screen time, I'd say you'd be on par with what I'm getting. Some days I can eek out close to 5 hours screen time, usually on the weekends when im at home and on WiFi.
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I get about 4 hours and 45 Minutes of screen time.
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Considering the size of the screen I am getting decent battery life, sounds like what your experiencing is normal :/ but going through 3 phones must be very frustrating.
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I get about 4 hours and 45 Minutes of screen time.
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Auto Brightness?
I don't know why you guys are getting such horrible times. With regular use I'm getting an average of 8-10 hrs screen time, depending on what I'm doing. I'm running Saurom RCVI, with Da_g OC Kernel, and tweaked a few of the JKay settings. I recommend charging to 100%, wiping batter stats, and doing a power cycle on it. That's what I did after installing above Rom/Kernel, and battery went from from 4-5hrs to at a minimum 7hrs.
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I don't know why you guys are getting such horrible times. With regular use I'm getting an average of 8-10 hrs screen time, depending on what I'm doing. I'm running Saurom RCVI, with Da_g OC Kernel, and tweaked a few of the JKay settings. I recommend charging to 100%, wiping batter stats, and doing a power cycle on it. That's what I did after installing above Rom/Kernel, and battery went from from 4-5hrs to at a minimum 7hrs.
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I would like to see a screen shot of that
Fighting battery problems here as well. I'd assume it was normal for this phone, except when I see people posting great times.
1 week old phone. Switched to Saurom yesterday to see if it's any better. Screen regularly at 5%. Usually on Wifi most of the day (and I'm not in an LTE market yet). I set all my synchs (rss, weather) to 4 hours. Others (Twitter) are manual. Only Exchange Email is push.
Using Cpusy & BetterBatteryStats to try to see what's going on. Could be a bad battery - could be that the number I'm seeing is wrong.
Anyway, I'm getting about a 7% drain an hour *with the phone off* ! I'm even rebooting as needed to make sure it's in deep sleep & not 384 (which is very, very annoying). Unplugging the phone @ 7am means a dead battery by 3pm. And if I'm using the phone, it's more like 12-15% an hour (min screen, reading a book). Been charging in the car and at work - whenever I can for now.
Going to try to run some tests on the new rom. Leave phone off for 30-60 minutes & track % loss. Then, maybe put it in airplane mode & try again.
Some weird ones I see to often - Adfree, Maps, Alarm Manager (which I understand can come from almost any of my apps). Oh - tried Juice Defender, no help there either (didn't make any difference at all)
Finally, in the car with Waze (gps), a Podcast Playing, and the screen cranked up for visibility - the car dock/charger keeps the phone about even. On my HD2, a drive to work would charge up like 20-30% of my phone.
Really, really hope I don't need to carry a 2nd battery for days when I can't keep the phone charging.
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Fighting battery problems here as well. I'd assume it was normal for this phone, except when I see people posting great times.
1 week old phone. Switched to Saurom yesterday to see if it's any better. Screen regularly at 5%. Usually on Wifi most of the day (and I'm not in an LTE market yet). I set all my synchs (rss, weather) to 4 hours. Others (Twitter) are manual. Only Exchange Email is push.
Using Cpusy & BetterBatteryStats to try to see what's going on. Could be a bad battery - could be that the number I'm seeing is wrong.
Anyway, I'm getting about a 7% drain an hour *with the phone off* ! I'm even rebooting as needed to make sure it's in deep sleep & not 384 (which is very, very annoying). Unplugging the phone @ 7am means a dead battery by 3pm. And if I'm using the phone, it's more like 12-15% an hour (min screen, reading a book). Been charging in the car and at work - whenever I can for now.
Going to try to run some tests on the new rom. Leave phone off for 30-60 minutes & track % loss. Then, maybe put it in airplane mode & try again.
Some weird ones I see to often - Adfree, Maps, Alarm Manager (which I understand can come from almost any of my apps). Oh - tried Juice Defender, no help there either (didn't make any difference at all)
Finally, in the car with Waze (gps), a Podcast Playing, and the screen cranked up for visibility - the car dock/charger keeps the phone about even. On my HD2, a drive to work would charge up like 20-30% of my phone.
Really, really hope I don't need to carry a 2nd battery for days when I can't keep the phone charging.
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How often do you get exchange emails? I stopped using push exchange email as it was a huge drain on the battery with the volume of emails I get...
With this phone the screen draws some serious juice, so if your using you phone in the car with the screen on its using about 950mah of juice, so your car charger will likely only keep this phone from losing power, it may not gain any juice, and it may even loose juice depending on charger power and what the phone is doing currently.
This is also why most of us are seeing about 3 hours of screen on time, as while the screen is on its using probably 700-800mah of power. divide that by the 2500mah battery and you can see why...
You can try other programs to try and help with things like background data, undervolting, etc, but that's all going to have a small effect as the "problem" is the screen, its eats up most of your juice. If you want to save battery you need to go after the big thing, the screen, not the little things. However short of reducing the brightness there's not a ton you can do about the screen. It is a big screen, and it needs big power to drive it.
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How often do you get exchange emails? I stopped using push exchange email as it was a huge drain on the battery with the volume of emails I get...
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I get about 5 an hour during the day. Will try setting it to once an hour in my testing instead of push.
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With this phone the screen draws some serious juice, so if your using you phone in the car with the screen on its using about 950mah of juice
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I *think* (need to double check) that the charger is putting out 1A. Where did you get the 950m number from? Is there an appx. chart for different levels of screen brightness (how about 50% for example when in the car? oh - and how much lower is the 5% I use indoors?)
Agree, the #1 thing is the screen itself, which is why I get very confused when I have the large drain with the screen off.
I'll also have to try a test today where I turn on my podcast, but leave Waze off - and turn the screen off while it's charging in the car.
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I get about 5 an hour during the day. Will try setting it to once an hour in my testing instead of push.
I *think* (need to double check) that the charger is putting out 1A. Where did you get the 950m number from? Is there an appx. chart for different levels of screen brightness (how about 50% for example when in the car? oh - and how much lower is the 5% I use indoors?)
Agree, the #1 thing is the screen itself, which is why I get very confused when I have the large drain with the screen off.
I'll also have to try a test today where I turn on my podcast, but leave Waze off - and turn the screen off while it's charging in the car.
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950mah is an educated guess. If you have root you can run this in a terminal to see how much power you car charger is giving the phone... (su first)
cat /sys/class/power_supply/battery/batt_current_adc
I usually get about 9100 for a result, which is 910.0 mah. and my phone will charge barely if I dont have gps going (screen on). if screen is on and gps is on the phone will slowly discharge, so that puts the phone power usage at about 900mah with screen on, so maybe 950 was too high of a guess. So when the phone screen is on, your using a ton of juice for such a small battery.
If I use just a podcast app and the screen is off the phone will charge much faster while in the car. If I have google maps running, it stays almost even...
You could even calculate your usage. She how many minutes your were driving with the screen off and the phone charging and note the amount of battery% gained in those minutes. You'd see a huge difference in charging times with the screen off. In my 50 minute commute to work, I gain about 20% battery charging with the screen off... With the screen on, I see almost nothing.
Seems like some days are better than others.
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