OMFG! if we (xda-developers) can get sources for samsung's i717 (note) kernel - we can get *much* faster performance by patching this against it: http://liliputing.com/2012/06/android-is-about-to-get-a-lot-faster-thanks-to-linaro.html
These compiler optimizations are pretty darn impressive. and I think they could speed up our device substantially... I've been complaining about the lack of hardware optimization (especially memory allocation, but cpu optimizations as well) for years now. finally someone saw it and did something about it. hoping it'll come to the masses soonish.
(note, i didn't want to post this in the dev forum as there's nothing currently to act on, also, i'm an interested third party and have no stake in linaro)
That is pretty neat!! ..only if we could contact them and we can be there Guinea pigs...lol.. id test there software for bugs.. **** I do it here for these devs. !..lol
I read posts have been added to the CM9 git, so hopefully the next unofficial CM9 release will include them.
This is definitely very cool. I'd love to see where this goes.
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looks promising!! I'd love to see what happens if/when this hits the Note.
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Wow.. Nice!! I Thxs for the heads up... Hmmm, wait jus one minute, without the source code the developers can't use this... Soooo that means my anticipation/frustration level increases at least one order of magnitude. Why am I thanking you? You should apologizing, I mean it's not like I can unread your post....
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These compiler optimizations are pretty darn impressive. and I think they could speed up our device substantially... I've been complaining about the lack of hardware optimization (especially memory allocation, but cpu optimizations as well) for years now. finally someone saw it and did something about it. hoping it'll come to the masses soonish.
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Compiler optimizations are just one of many things linaro did there to improve performance. They also optimized the kernel and userspace stuff.
I heard the code was optimized for the Nexus CPU and not the GPU so the code would have to be redone for our CPU and then that still does nothing for our GPU. So basically it would still NEED A LOT like alot of work to work on our phone. I don't know much, but thats basically how it was explained to me. I was really excited about this too when I first heard about it. But if some ingenious Dev put the work in this would be awesome!
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I heard the code was optimized for the Nexus CPU and not the GPU so the code would have to be redone for our CPU and then that still does nothing for our GPU. So basically it would still NEED A LOT like alot of work to work on our phone. I don't know much, but thats basically how it was explained to me. I was really excited about this too when I first heard about it. But if some ingenious Dev put the work in this would be awesome!
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If i understood correctly it isn't that specific as far as cpu goes... the optimizations should simply be for the cpu core used, so in this case the optizations for the cortex a9 (the cpu in the galaxy nexus) should be just fine with our qualcomm scorpion cpu. they are very similar and in fact our scorpion really is a superset of what the cortex a9 can do... so basically the optimization done on the a9 should work great for us, but if an enterprising individual wanted to sit down and really comb the code, they could probably squeeze even a tad more optimization out of the deal.
but yeah, the optimization that they put in should work right out of the box plus or minus some kernel module compatibility (which is really what needs to be worked on), but we need code to patch against so until samsung coughs up a 4.0.4 kernel for the i717, we're just twiddling our thumbs.
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cpgeek is quite right my info was off. Michael H from Phone Arena wrote a very good article on Linaro explaining it in better detail and how it will help ICS on all Android devices http://www.phonearena.com/news/Lina...-and-showing-the-power-of-Open-Source_id31140
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Now I know benchmarks are not that accurate but I figured I would ask about this anyway and see what everyone else thinks...
First, whenever I run linpack I only score anywhere between 12 and 16 overclocked @ 1.8...even my og Evo got about 40 so just wanted some input on that...
And second, when I run quadrant the first 12 tests go real slow but them I seem to still score from 2500-3000 but when I looked at the system info it said my phone was only a single core...kinda thought it was strange...here's the screen shot so you can see what I'm talking about
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Just a couple questions I had but not really urgent...still, any input is much appreciated
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I am guessing that you have the CPU overclocked too much and it is choking on the benchmarks. Try lowering your clock to 1500 and see if you get the same results.
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htc phones have always fallen short on benchmarks dont worry it doesnt rlly say anything about real life performance. yeh it says one core you have 2 is it using both for the test? the world may never know
Yea looks like it isn't picking up second core for testing, hut the second core shouldn't be on all the time anyways, look for a dual core supported benchmark,
I believe cf bench is good for dual core,
And yea linpack borks when oc to far,
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not to hijack the thread, but i didn't want to start a new post, and can't post in the developers section yet.
I just flashed myns warmtwopointthree and when running nenamark 2 i get about 20fps, I got about 26 on stock before root. I haven't messed with the cpu yet as i just flashed it, but i was wondering if anyone knows whats up with it.
I just don't want to sift through 2,500+ replies to find out. i read in the latest release notes that the gpu was overclocked but i'm getting worse performance. I wanted higher performance so i chose that rom. Anyone know why?
Unfortunately most apps are not multithreaded which means they're only going to use one core anyway. So if you want to see how your average app will perform, Quadrant is actually pretty good because it is written like most apps: for a single core.
If you want a benchmark more indicative of what the hardware is actually capable of, a multi-core test like CF Bench or SmartBench 2011 is in order. Unfortunately, I've found that the governors on most ROM's are not up to the task and they actually slow things down quite a bit so if you want max performance (numbers in the tests), you need to use SetCPU or a similar tool and choose the "performance" governor otherwise the phone will be jumping around at various clock speeds for all the tests. I've tried the "lag free", "smartass" and all the governors and none of them (on any ROM I've tested) truly know how to keep the CPU at your max frequency even when doing the demanding tasks that the benchmarks throw at it.
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I officially have the fastest tablet on the planet according to Antutu!!
YES! Sub zero cooling for the WIN!
I forgot to add.... U S A , U S A, U S A!!! LOL
I just added my best CFbench score. This is on 1.7ghz @ 600mhz GPU.
Thanks to Diamond for the wonderful rom.
Thanks to Motley and Shaky for the amazing kernel
Thanks to Droidth3ory for all the work on the phone side of things, without your help and awesome roms I would not be into flashing!
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Congratulations man lol!!
Awesome man!
Maybe we could fab some sort of water to air intercooler. I am sure you could find one easy in NoVa, with all those boosted civics running around.
Thanks, my wife thinks I am the biggest dork in the world.
I was in the kitchen benching and all she heard was F*** YEAAH!!!!! LOL!
EDIT: I think the cooling solution I have (the temporary one atleast) is plenty for benching at 2.0ghz.
Bring it on kernel makers =)
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lol Congrats. I bet you could easily hit 16000. try this and I bet you score alot higher. get system tuner. then go into could tweaks. set the governor there to Performance. then set the min. speed slider all the way up to Max. now you should see all 4 of your CPU maxed out @ 1.8Ghz full time. meaning each core is active @ 1.8Ghz. the regular overclocking doesn't enable all 4 cores to run at once at those speeds. Method I just described will and is why I usually score alot higher than people on same 1.6Ghz clock speed as me. my 2D and 3D scores on quadrant was even higher than that one guy who made the 1.8Ghz available. and that was me still @ 1.6ghz. my 2D score was more than double his @ 1.8Ghz. you can also go into settings, then developer options. then enable the force gpu rendering. that should help increase your scores also.
benefit14snake said:
Thanks, my wife thinks I am the biggest dork in the world.
I was in the kitchen benching and all she heard was F*** YEAAH!!!!! LOL!
EDIT: I think the cooling solution I have (the temporary one atleast) is plenty for benching at 2.0ghz.
Bring it on kernel makers =)
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Nice! I have my kernel running at 1.8 GHz now. I basically enabled what I had the first time I tried, but now the voltages are the same as my latest 1.7. This time it runs fine. I am a little disappointed that the scores aren't higher though and keep wondering what else is limiting us. Hope to do more study soon. The voltage regulator is keeping us pinned at 1500mV and I haven't tried to up that yet. We don't need it yet...but we will if we want to go higher.
_motley said:
Nice! I have my kernel running at 1.8 GHz now. I basically enabled what I had the first time I tried, but now the voltages are the same as my latest 1.7. This time it runs fine. I am a little disappointed that the scores aren't higher though and keep wondering what else is limiting us. Hope to do more study soon. The voltage regulator is keeping us pinned at 1500mV and I haven't tried to up that yet. We don't need it yet...but we will if we want to go higher.
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Anyway I could get a copy of your kernel? I am using a different 1.8ghz kernel but I dont think it has the tweaks yours has. Maybe PM it to me if your willing.
EDIT: I wonder if there is a way to make the kernel use 1.6ghz for balanced and then use performance to screw around with. Can I edit this myself motley?
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Just updated with new CFbench score. Will try to go higher with this test kernel, these are just the first few runs I did.
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Sometimes I wonder what our mates who are completely uninterested in technology think when we do something like what the OP said in the kitchen. I'm currently dating a guy who likes to write more than anything else. Writing creatively just isn't my cup of tea. He, on the other hand, is just not interested at all with technology. And somehow we've gravitated toward each other.
He some times give me weird looks when I yell out "****, yeah!" after I've hard modded something or successfully soldered things together that weren't meant to be together and still work. I guess opposites do attract.
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Sometimes I wonder what our mates who are completely uninterested in technology think when we do something like what the OP said in the kitchen. I'm currently dating a guy who likes to write more than anything else. Writing creatively just isn't my cup of tea. He, on the other hand, is just not interested at all with technology. And somehow we've gravitated toward each other.
He some times give me weird looks when I yell out "****, yeah!" after I've hard modded something or successfully soldered things together that weren't meant to be together and still work. I guess opposites do attract.
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My fiance knows how to work a PC because of her job. I got my first PC after we got together 10 years ago (I was 22) and she showed me the basics...then all hell broke loose.
I love anything and everything tech, and have had 5 Android devices since, not including PCs and MP3players,etc and I am constantly showing and telling her about how I have to unlock this,flash this, yadayada, and she always laughs and calls me a dork. BUT, when I bought my Prime, I didn't want her to ***** about me already having a TouchPad, so I bought her a 7" Galaxy Tab, and it turns out a lot of the stuff I showed her actually rubbed off, because she jumped right into Android and loves it.
So, you never know I guess. It's so cool that she understands much of what I tell her about home launchers, apps,Widgets, and Modding now.
This is not all that much a "development" thread as a collective piece. I would like to see from you all if the drivers posted on the front page actually have any affect on our device....or maybe I am just crazy.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/updated-adreno-220-ics-gpu-driver-speeds-up-2d-rendering/
I am personally seeing an increase 2D up from ~300ish to well over 600 to 700, while a slight decrease in 3D.
Simply set to interactive Min: 128 Max: 1782 noop scheduler
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Hmmm. I installed the evo3d ones over 0509 nightly cm9. No ill effect. Seems faster but I believe that perception to be a placebo effect so far. Thanks OP
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Hmmm. I installed the evo3d ones over 0509 nightly cm9. No ill effect. Seems faster but I believe that perception to be a placebo effect so far. Thanks OP
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Just installed these over webcm9 cornerstone aokp and i've noticed a definite improvement at least in games. Not placebo at least in my eyes. But then again that's the best placebo. All i know is that all my games are running better. Thanks for the tip. Do they exynos drivers as well?
It actually brought my Quadrant speed down significantly..... From 3266 to 2571.
In what setup were you getting 3266?
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In what setup were you getting 3266?
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Eyeballer's Nightly 05-07, 160dpi, 384mhz to 1782mhz. Pretty standard... Didn't mess with the 2d setting in settings.
FWIW, I'm getting over 3100.
Running CM9 official nightly 20120507, 192-1512mhz interactive governor, adreno drivers from OP.
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This is my result using the latest CM Min: 128 Max: 1782
Performance increase in both Quadrant and games. Subjectively I would say more than 20% in Reckless Racing 1 & 2 and in Real Racing!
Try using the driver from this thread, it's newer than the one posted here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1643472
kcodya said:
Try using the driver from this thread, it's newer than the one posted here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1643472
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Wow, I notice a huge difference in certain applications. Most notably scrolling through apps in the play store. It used to be ultra choppy, now it is bearable.
Here is a zip that'll flash on the Touchpad:
http://www.mediafire.com/?cnbbz06kl2mv6ix
As always, before flashing make sure to backup or be ready to reflash your rom.
I am running AOKP MS5, if that makes any difference.
Edit: Just noticed he had a zip for other devices attached to the post.
Moved to general, please continue.
Using the driver from the OP, I have the following observations;
2d is MUCH smoother, not my imagination, especially when panning between home screens.
Before, a few times a day it would be unresponsive to touch when coming out of sleep, more likely if it had just recently gone to sleep. Usually this was resolved by hitting the power button twice, only rarely requiring a hard reboot. After installing the 213 drivers 2 days ago, this has yet to happen. If it matters, I use pattern lock.
Haven't found any new bugs yet. Tonight I'll try the new 218 drivers and run a new benchmark.
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with this driver i got a lower benchmark point rate.
Lower gfx score here too. Can't comment on apps yet.
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here are my results with adreno 220 v218
latest cm9 nightly 20120513
min: 192 max: 1782
2D render enabled
density: 120dpi
What bench program are you guys using???
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What bench program are you guys using???
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quadrant, there's a free version at play store
I used AnTuTu.
I already use Antutu just wondering what the one in that post was (quadrant).
I found my old galaxy S last night and thought I would run a quick benchmark using Quadrant against my galaxy S2. As you would expect the S2 overal beat the S1... apart from 3D performance. It was only a few marks faster but the S1 did out perform. This was noticeable on the gpu section where they is a planet revolving around the frame rate was almost double that of the s2. Both phones are running ginger bread 2.3.5 @ stock
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First of all, look at all the things you have running in the background on the S2.
Second thing, you're probably running the android 4 optimized version of quadrant on the s2 and the old gb version on the s1.
Install the newest on both. Reboot them both. Test then.
If you still have problems go into settings->applications->running and see what's slowing down your phone.
It's propably because the software runs more efficient on the S1.
Also who cares about benchmarks anyways? There aren't any apps out there for the S2 which have good graphics or bring the processors to its limits. Name me one which does that.
Ive now come to the conclusion the quadrant simply is **** :d
ics 3D perf gone up but 2d dropped dramatically obviously far too software limited.
My goodness that notification bar is packed
same here my eyes were on the noti bar ,,its full.
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First of all, look at all the things you have running in the background on the S2.
Second thing, you're probably running the android 4 optimized version of quadrant on the s2 and the old gb version on the s1.
Install the newest on both. Reboot them both. Test then.
If you still have problems go into settings->applications->running and see what's slowing down your phone.
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Wow the replies are either fanboyism or just honest ignorance and mistakes.
First of all he is running the same current version on both.
All those things running in the background are actually on the S1 not the S2...
Frozenthunder said:
It's propably because the software runs more efficient on the S1.
Also who cares about benchmarks anyways? There aren't any apps out there for the S2 which have good graphics or bring the processors to its limits. Name me one which does that.
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Its not just quadrant standard that shows this. I have consistently been dissapointed with the SGS2 3d perf in general.
Name one?
Jet car stunts runs worse on the SGS2 and looks worse than on the SGS1.
The SGS2 refresh rate is also lower making games run worse.
IF you look at sysetm information, CUBE MAPS and CROSSBAR COMBINED not supported on the SGS2. Everything supported on the SGS1.
Personal experience, a lot of 3D games run much nicer and look nicer on the SGS1.
Really disappointed withe SGS2 screen and 3D perf.
The SGS 2 has a Mali gpu, while the SGS 1 has a PowerVR gpu. Theoretically SGS 2 should be faster but because of architecture differences it may behave worse under conditions that favour the PowerVR. I have not had problems with my SGS 2 being slow but I have not played really demanding games yet.
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DramatikBeats said:
My goodness that notification bar is packed
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It's because that phone hasn't been switched on for a ages and it also has no Sim so when I turned it on things like Ebay spring up with old messages
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Emexrulsier said:
It's because that phone hasn't been switched on for a ages and it also has no Sim so when I turned it on things like Ebay spring up with old messages
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for benchmark u can try Antutu app over Qadrant app since it gives more accurate results over and above Quadrant one
Before I bought my L21 device, I had looked around on the internet and I had found some videos where this device's Antutu score was around 44560. I've check my device score and it is 36359. Where is the truth? How much is your devices' Antutu scores?
Mine was also in the same range as yours. 35901. The 3D score and RAM really were low compared to other budget phones I'm evaluating like the Blu Life One X.
5X was 2594 for 3D. Blu was 5419. WTF?
yeah i think this is a realy bad score. my score is as low as your.
But i own a MotoXPlay with Snapdragon 615 and the 3d Score there is over 8000 Points
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Before I bought my L21 device, I had looked around on the internet and I had found some videos where this device's Antutu score was around 44560. I've check my device score and it is 36359. Where is the truth? How much is your devices' Antutu scores?
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L24 with similar scores 36389, 3D only 2554, RAM at 3807. I expected better. Had open a few apps when running the test, maybe that had an impact.
Just took the test, my results:
3461, 3D
15795, UX
13828, CPU
3535, RAM
35619, Total
Was that with or without smart power saving? I heard that it seems to add more lagg than time..
PS thinking of buying to replace my dying gt-i9300 (galaxy s3)
Just tested and got 36018. Seems like it should be like 5-10k higher. Maybe custom ROMs will help some.
Also, since we have the kernel source and everything, won't we be able to overclock it some?
34230 for me.
3D score of 2494.
Turned on Airplane mode:
35144
3D: 2646
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Its L22
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Kounjula Rahul said:
Its L22
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37236, looks like we have a winner
Did you do anything special to get this score?
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37236, looks like we have a winner
Did you do anything special to get this score?
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Nothing..just powersaving set to Normal..!!
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I rooted the phone and used the debloat script to get rid of unnecessary apps. I couldn't find the power-savings setting, can someone point me to where that is? Don't know if rooting it and running that script got rid of it.
Thanks
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I rooted the phone and used the debloat script to get rid of unnecessary apps. I couldn't find the power-savings setting, can someone point me to where that is? Don't know if rooting it and running that script got rid of it.
Thanks
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Yes, the debloat script removes the phone manager app...which I believe does the battery saving "magic."
What? My "hundred-year-old" Galaxy S4 mini gets around 40000 points (CM13, f4ktion kernel, no overclocking). Unbelievable!
There must be something seriously wrong with those first release ROMs of 5x.
this is exactly why we need a stock rom that's not bloated.