With the sim in my phone, I get the net on my phone.
If I put my sim into my tablet, I could get the net (if the touchpad had 3g).
But if I try to use the phone as a wifi hotspot, the carrier knows the data is being shared, and blocks it. How does it know?
Am now wondering whether any of the apps to share the connection - eg over Bluetooth - would be the same or not. Must try it out.
Find it very puzzling (until the carrier told me that I could share the data connection over a wifi hotspot on my phone... if I agreed to pay them more money)...
apologies, thought would be of interest to users, appreciate developers are above stuff like that..its why i posted in the general forum. i did search but didnt find the relevant thread. this isnt a very friendly forum for users, i have noticed a few threads that interest people being attacked.
What method are you using for mobile hotspot? Phone, ROM, app, etc.
so far only tried android's own wifi hotspot feature on htc wildfire with 2.2 froyo
badfelafel said:
so far only tried android's own wifi hotspot feature on htc wildfire with 2.2 froyo
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I have ran into problems using wifi tethering methods with Verizon in the US. When I tried to tether, I would get a page in the browser, on the device Im trying to get connection on, of verizon saying if you want to tether, you have to pay for it. Something along those lines. If the wildfire puts out an adhoc connection, most tethering apps wont show up on the TouchPad since it does not support that type of connection. The one app I have tried successfully is PDAnet in the play store. I have installed CM7 and CM9 on my phone and both built in option works with the TouchPad without the carrier noticing. Have you ever tried installing a different ROM on your phone. I dont know whats available for your phone.
EDIT: Sorry, If you're phone only goes up to froyo, I guess CM7 and CM9 are out of the question. But there may be others.
interesting. am going to try pdanet and will let u know
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interesting. am going to try pdanet and will let u know
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Just know, you need two apps. "PdaNet Tablet" on the TouchPad and I forget the name of the app for the phone. I think it tells you on the tablet app when you start it.
EDIT: Just read you need the phone version of PdaNet or another app called Foxfi on your phone.
ace9988 said:
why do you click it and then decide to post what you have....its the general section. if you're solely interested in development then here's the link HP Touchpad Development
I'm not too sure how the carrier finds out, maybe larger number of data packets compared to data being received by the phone (regardless of desktop sites being requested).
I see that you're with Orange, and if they follow the same rules as T-mobile following their merger, then they don't fine you for going over your allowance, they just limit your usage to off peak hours....then a warning...then disconnection of your data service. Only phonecalls and texts.
I know this because I totally rinsed the allowance in 2 hours after my wifi went down and I had work related files to download.
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there are many ways that mobile device is different from a pc
minutes differences in the way packets are sent/created/received/acknowledged differ from os to os, not to mention hardware
obvious one are mac addressing (easy to spoof but you can usually tell if the mac is a pc or mobile based)
User Agents as was mentioned, although this not a all defining as browser apps can spoof this
and im sure there many more, all of these create a system fingerprint that makes you different from all the other devices on the operators network
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Don't you get tired of having your posts deleted for rude and insulting content? As a poster above mentioned, why don't you confine yourself to the development section? Probably because the devs won't put up with your behavior there. Please refrain yourself from posting rudely.
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while i agree it was rude, this shouldn't have been posted here, it should have been posted on the general wildfire sub forum as this does not particularly pertain to any problems that have been encountered on the touchpad
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there are many ways that mobile device is different from a pc
minutes differences in the way packets are sent/created/received/acknowledged differ from os to os, not to mention hardware
obvious one are mac addressing (easy to spoof but you can usually tell if the mac is a pc or mobile based)
User Agents as was mentioned, although this not a all defining as browser apps can spoof this
and im sure there many more, all of these create a system fingerprint that makes you different from all the other devices on the operators network
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Ah, there's something new i learned, mine was just a second guess
while i agree it was rude, this shouldn't have been posted here, it should have been posted on the general wildfire sub forum as this does not particularly pertain to any problems that have been encountered on the touchpad
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to be fair it could've belonged anywhere from wildfire to touchpad to just general android Q&A.....lets just be happy he didn't post it in development. I'd be thinking just as much as to where to post it, besides a touchpad solution might differ from other tablets seeing that it is a bit "unique"
I currently use "WiFi Tether" from the google play store on my "rooted" HTC to connect my Touchpad and dont have any issues with surfing.
But as darkassin mentioned, with some plans, after a certain amount of data used, you may or may not have your service slowed down. i have encounter this with downloaded nightly ROMS...I stopped doing that till i get home and use reg WiFi.
Enjoy.
Am on classicnerds here and a number of GB and ICS ROM's on a HTC phone. Hotspot works OK with laptop and TouchPad. Had to use the APN fix to get around the carrier blocking the tethering.
Focus should be over in your phone forum.
Related
I'm going to start here with this question before expanding it to the whole xda-developers Q&A area, since this is something I am trying to do specifically with my Note.
Is there a way to force an app to use mobile data connection (MDC) instead of wifi?
Specifically, I am trying to figure out if I can force Activesync and/or the Gmail app to use the MDC instead of the wifi connection when I am already connected on wifi, especially if there is a way to have either of those apps detect that it can't communicate with the servers through wifi, and auto change to using the MDC.
Reason for this??? I need to receive emails through Activesync and Gmail at all times, due to being on-call for work. The wifi connection screws up sometimes, but the phone stays connected to the wifi thinking it can still access everything ok. (yes, it is a problem with the router, not the phone, and that is being investigated separately)
Yes...I know I could just turn off my wifi connection on the phone, but I prefer to leave it on if possible, and just use the MDC for those two apps. Is that even possible to use the MDC while still connected to wifi, or is there a requirement that wifi be turned off to use MDC, no matter what???
Also, what is the proper name for the MDC? That might help me search for a solution. MDC was the best I could come up with for it, but maybe there is an "official" name for this connection?
I have the Tasker app installed, and have been thinking about trying a way to make Tasker cycle the wifi connection for me, but as I said, I would prefer to just leave the wifi turned on, and just force those two apps out the MDC.
Any help, or maybe just point me to some more info? I have search for about a week now, and am finding plenty of people asking how to restrict an app to use wifi, but not the other way around.
Thanks!
MonkeyThumper
Additional info:
Think of it this way...the wifi issue may be firewall related. So, the firewall stops my phone data from going to the internet through wifi. I need to still get my emails though. I would like to stay connected to my wifi, so that I could tell that I am having problem as soon as I try to surf the web, but my emails would still be coming through because they are using the mobile data connection instead.
I've never seen a mobile data connection stay active while wifi was turned on and connected.
Your best bet is to either fix whatever is wrong with your wifi connection, or bite the bullet and leave wifi off, until you can fix your wifi connection.
i agree, dont think its possible to use data connection,without turning off wifi first(impossible to have 2 data types simultaneously)
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i agree, dont think its possible to use data connection,without turning off wifi first(impossible to have 2 data types simultaneously)
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I dont think its impossible, as I believe txts come over data, not sure on this though. Is it possible to get what you want, yes most likely. Is it going to be easy, probably not. Address the real problem rather then applying an over complicated bandaid.
If your staying connected, but losing data at home then it is likely your modem is the culprit (assuming you use a modem connected to a wireless router, not a all in one device). If it belongs to the cable/phone company then contact them. If you bought your modem, find out what is compatable and buy a new one and see if this fixes it. I had the exact same problem with Time Warner the dumb asses tried telling me it was my wireless router problem despite still being about to be 100% up and running on internal (streaming music and movies from plex server while on phone and even able to RDP internally). Eventually they agreed to send a tech out and he laughed at them and gave me an upgraded modem and we were good to go.
Thanks for the support, but as I said, the wifi issue is being addresses separately. It may not be a quick & easy fix, because additional "testing" is being done on the network (firewall) that may be the real cause of the issue. It is being looked into though.
So...for everyone trying to get me to just "fix" the wifi first, sorry, but it isn't going to happen right now. I would just like to find a way to do what I requested in the original message.
Think of it this way...the wifi issue may be firewall related. So, the firewall stops my phone data from going to the internet through wifi. I need to still get my emails though. I would like to stay connected to my wifi, so that I could tell that I am having problem as soon as I try to surf the web, but my emails would still be coming through because they are using the mobile data connection instead.
Does that help clarify my need of this some?
I agree that it seems only one connection can be active at a time. On my windows mobile phone it defaulted to the data connection, android seems to default to wifi (i would bet this is a requirement from the carriers).
As for texts, they are delivered through spare bits on the cellular carrier channel that were left as spares very early on. Not via data channels. Which is why forcing us to pay to send texts is such robbery - we are literally using otherwise spare bandwidth.
How to bypass MDC?
I have a similar need as MonkeyThumper. My situation is that I have a camera application which allows me to view my camera's at home. It uses port 2000 of which our corporate firewall blocks. I have to turn off wi-fi so that I can use mobile in order to connect. Wondering if there is some routing protocol that I can tell my phone to use MDC instead of wi-fi specifically for that application. It's a nuissance to have to turn off wi-fi, check the camera's, then turn it back on regularly. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Apps = Not Likely. HOWEVER.... and I can't say for sure - mainly because I have no idea if the radios shut down based upon connection (example 3G turns off when on wifi) - but you can modify the routes in the route table and (again in theory) force data down one pathway or the other.
For example - using a terminal on the phone try this: Connect Wifi - then in the terminal type: ip route show
Output will be something like
default via 192.168.1.1 dev wlan0
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192.168.1.1 dev wlan0 scope link
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If you disconnect Wifi and repeat (ip route show) the output will look like this:
default via 10.77.xx.xx dev rmnet_sdio0
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10.77.xx.xx dev rmnet_sdio0 scope link
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So, you should be able to manipulate the route table with something like:
su
ip route add 88.77.66.55/32 via 10.77.xx dev rmnet_sdio0 (where 88.77.66.55 is your home IP address or the IP you want to get to).
The problem with this is... it's not persistent. So you'll be best off doing this from a script or something once you verify it works.
There might be another way too... I'm sure there's a route file somewhere that can be configured.
XDA is no longer worth my time.
Need GMAIL on Mobile Data, others on WiFi
hi, my case is simple:
At work, we have WiFi.
But, GMAIL is blocked.
So, i want all my other apps to use the office WiFi, but gmail to go over my mobile data.
I would imagine this scenario is getting more and more common.
Does anyone have any ideas here, apart from having to turn wifi off everytime i want to check my gmail?
any help much appreciated,
thanks James.
TimOster said:
XDA is no longer worth my time.
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Then go away.
2$HAYNE
TimOster said:
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okay, BYE
shayneflashindaily said:
Then go away.
2$HAYNE
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here here, I 2nd that.
that was an easy problem to solve
TimOster said:
XDA is no longer worth my time.
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Since you randomly go around posting this same statement on many threads, let me see if I can give you a hand.
Give me just a bit.....I'll see if I can get a mod to help you find the xda door. No need to hit thanks Tim....more than happy to do it for you.
Sent from my Big Ass Outlaw Phone
TimOster said:
XDA is no longer worth my time.
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Then dont come back.
shayneflashindaily said:
Then go away.
2$HAYNE
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captemo said:
okay, BYE
here here, I 2nd that.
that was an easy problem to solve
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Lol you guys! He said that over a year ago!!
Bubbajoe40356 said:
Since you randomly go around posting this same statement on many threads, let me see if I can give you a hand.
Give me just a bit.....I'll see if I can get a mod to help you find the xda door. No need to hit thanks Tim....more than happy to do it for you.
Sent from my Big Ass Outlaw Phone
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serge_harle_z said:
Then dont come back.
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440bro said:
Lol you guys! He said that over a year ago!!
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yeah, I know.
but my phone runs soooo good, im bored
been trying to decide what to flash. even if there are issues, it will give me something to do.
I have searched extensively on Google, and XDA but can't find the right answer.
I want to tether my phone. I can do this directly in Android but my current carrier brings up a message in the browser saying it's not supported on my current plan.
I'm addressing this, but in the mean time I'm curious if there is a way round it, hypothetically.
I have seen some Apps, such as ClockWork Mod Tether, but since my phone is rooted I wondered if there is a more elegant solution that doesn't involve any software to be added to my PC.
I read about using TB to freeze a specific App/Process but couldn't find any details.
Any advice would be great,
thanks
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I have searched extensively on Google, and XDA but can't find the right answer.
I want to tether my phone. I can do this directly in Android but my current carrier brings up a message in the browser saying it's not supported on my current plan.
I'm addressing this, but in the mean time I'm curious if there is a way round it, hypothetically.
I have seen some Apps, such as ClockWork Mod Tether, but since my phone is rooted I wondered if there is a more elegant solution that doesn't involve any software to be added to my PC.
I read about using TB to freeze a specific App/Process but couldn't find any details.
Any advice would be great,
thanks
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HOW have you not heard of android wifi tether? One of the first reasons I had for rooting the first Android phone I got.
There's also Barnacle Tether, available on the play store.
Guess Barnacle is gone... but there are other tethering apps on the play store though.
And I'm wrong again. Barnacle is still there, but doesn't show up when I search from my phone. How curious.
Since your phone is rooted you can download wireless tether.
Google it and you will easily find the download link or even directly via the play store.
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HOW have you not heard of android wifi tether? One of the first reasons I had for rooting the first Android phone I got.
There's also Barnacle Tether, available on the play store.
Guess Barnacle is gone... but there are other tethering apps on the play store though.
And I'm wrong again. Barnacle is still there, but doesn't show up when I search from my phone. How curious.
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I appreciate the reply, but if you read my post again the issue I'm having is not an app to enable wifi tether directly on the handset, it's that the packet data is being detected as not from the phone so I get a message, on the computer, in the internet browser saying my priceplan doesn't include tethering. I cant get around this 3 website redirect. So, I need a way to tether, without the network knowing... The apps you mention work when the block is at the phone level I believe.... This is something different Three is doing..
Please correct me if I'm wrong though...
Oh, and as for the apps not showing up, the mobile phone providers asked google to block these apps for certain customers.. if you connect to a wifi network when in flight mode, and go the google market, you should still be able to see them...
panoramixmeister said:
Since your phone is rooted you can download wireless tether.
Google it and you will easily find the download link or even directly via the play store.
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same issue, this app doesnt get around they way three is detecting tether usage :-(
helppme said:
I appreciate the reply, but if you read my post again the issue I'm having is not an app to enable wifi tether directly on the handset, it's that the packet data is being detected as not from the phone so I get a message, on the computer, in the internet browser saying my priceplan doesn't include tethering. I cant get around this 3 website redirect. So, I need a way to tether, without the network knowing... The apps you mention work when the block is at the phone level I believe.... This is something different Three is doing..
Please correct me if I'm wrong though...
Oh, and as for the apps not showing up, the mobile phone providers asked google to block these apps for certain customers.. if you connect to a wifi network when in flight mode, and go the google market, you should still be able to see them...
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I WAS on wifi.
And did you ACTUALLY download the tether app and try, or were you using the tether built into the settings of Android? Because it sure doesn't sound like you downloaded the app...
And I don't have tethering on my carrier plan, but the tether app works just fine for me.
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I WAS on wifi.
And did you ACTUALLY download the tether app and try, or were you using the tether built into the settings of Android? Because it sure doesn't sound like you downloaded the app...
And I don't have tethering on my carrier plan, but the tether app works just fine for me.
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Initially when I first posted I was trying the built in app but I downloaded the app you suggested anyway, but it didn't work. would connect to the computer but no data connection. Unsure if its an app problem or still a three problem, but I don't see how this app would fix the three problem. Does it somehow mask the PC data connection??? I couldn't see anything in the settings or set up that suggest that it would, it just looks like a more feature rich wifi hotspot app?? In addition I found mention that that others with my issue have also tried these apps like barnacle and it didn;t resolve the problem....
helppme said:
I have searched extensively on Google, and XDA but can't find the right answer.
I want to tether my phone. I can do this directly in Android but my current carrier brings up a message in the browser saying it's not supported on my current plan.
I'm addressing this, but in the mean time I'm curious if there is a way round it, hypothetically.
I have seen some Apps, such as ClockWork Mod Tether, but since my phone is rooted I wondered if there is a more elegant solution that doesn't involve any software to be added to my PC.
I read about using TB to freeze a specific App/Process but couldn't find any details.
Any advice would be great,
thanks
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They can suspend your service if they discover you are doing tethering on your device if you are not alowed in your current plan.
I Hope you wont have any issues.
Otherwise it is possible that the sim card lock the feature even on rooted phone when detect thetering or it is impossible ?
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They can suspend your service if they discover you are doing tethering on your device if you are not alowed in your current plan.
I Hope you wont have any issues.
Otherwise it is possible that the sim card lock the feature even on rooted phone when detect thetering or it is impossible ?
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yes I suppose they could do, but like I say I'm resolving this with my contract. It's more that I'm curious how they are doing it, and on principle don't like being told what I can and can't do
It can't be a sim lock.
I just tried tethering a Macbook, and amazingly that worked!.. SO, It must be something to do with the Packet Headers I'm guessing.. Or they are doing some other more detailed packet sniffing... It means there is definitely a software route around it... Need a clever developer to read this thread
I guess clockworkMod Tether might work, but I want a solution without a PC install..
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yes I suppose they could do, but like I say I'm resolving this with my contract. It's more that I'm curious how they are doing it, and on principle don't like being told what I can and can't do
It can't be a sim lock.
I just tried tethering a Macbook, and amazingly that worked!.. SO, It must be something to do with the Packet Headers I'm guessing.. Or they are doing some other more detailed packet sniffing... It means there is definitely a software route around it... Need a clever developer to read this thread
I guess clockworkMod Tether might work, but I want a solution without a PC install..
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That doesn't make any sense. If it works with a mac book, it should work with your windows machine too. Unless your windows machine has some kind of proxy?
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That doesn't make any sense. If it works with a mac book, it should work with your windows machine too. Unless your windows machine has some kind of proxy?
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no proxy.. I'm as confused as you. The headers are different on a mac though, Unix based system... Need to know how 3 detect at a network level its not phone data... this difference with a mac must be a clue...
pda net 3.50. Had to install pc software.. Is a USB tether solution.. but it works, so will do, until I get my price plan sorted.... Still would like a more elegant wifi solution though.. Come on you clever devs, .... SCRATCH that :-(((( It worked for 5 mins, now it comes up with same message in the internet Browser.. damn it!!! three are too smart :-(
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pda net 3.50. Had to install pc software.. Is a USB tether solution.. but it works, so will do, until I get my price plan sorted.... Still would like a more elegant wifi solution though.. Come on you clever devs, .... SCRATCH that :-(((( It worked for 5 mins, now it comes up with same message in the internet Browser.. damn it!!! three are too smart :-(
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Try proxoid.
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Try proxoid.
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They are blocking the port 80.. they sent you to their walled garden page. I think its on your provider proxy side now
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They are blocking the port 80.. they sent you to their walled garden page. I think its on your provider proxy side now
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Is there a way around this. What do you mean by, on the provider proxy side?
Shortly after PDA net stopped working, I was also getting the three message on the browser directly on my phone.. after about an hour, my phone web browser started working normall again :-(
helppme said:
Is there a way around this. What do you mean by, on the provider proxy side?
Shortly after PDA net stopped working, I was also getting the three message on the browser directly on my phone.. after about an hour, my phone web browser started working normall again :-(
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When you use thetering, you embark to the provider internet network.
for example my provider is Bell Canada and their proxy is web.wireless.bell.ca
this one is for the device internet
for the thetering one they use another configuration settings when i connect my device to the computer.
What happen is when you plug your device to the computer, a signal is sent to the provider stating you entered in thetering mode. You don't have access to thetering so your internet connection is limited to the walled garden of the provider stating you are not subscrided to the service. Thats why i think they blocked the port 80 on your device and redirect you to that page.
Now for the Macintosh story.. It is not impossible that you can connect without problem with a mac and safari. I know a lot of people emulating a handled device with the Mac and the safari browser and those peeps didnt had a thetering plan.
The differences came with the drivers installed. Mac OS one are quite different in term of functionality than windows, thats why maybe the provider is able to sniff more easily people using windows but i am not a senior programmer. I am currently taking courses to become one but for now it is only suppositions. If i am wrong feel free to correct me but I am quite sure about what i am saying and that's why you dont have issues with a mac
jsmasterx said:
When you use thetering, you embark to the provider internet network.
for example my provider is Bell Canada and their proxy is web.wireless.bell.ca
this one is for the device internet
for the thetering one they use another configuration settings when i connect my device to the computer.
What happen is when you plug your device to the computer, a signal is sent to the provider stating you entered in thetering mode. You don't have access to thetering so your internet connection is limited to the walled garden of the provider stating you are not subscrided to the service. Thats why i think they blocked the port 80 on your device and redirect you to that page.
Now for the Macintosh story.. It is not impossible that you can connect without problem with a mac and safari. I know a lot of people emulating a handled device with the Mac and the safari browser and those peeps didnt had a thetering plan.
The differences came with the drivers installed. Mac OS one are quite different in term of functionality than windows, thats why maybe the provider is able to sniff more easily people using windows but i am not a senior programmer. I am currently taking courses to become one but for now it is only suppositions. If i am wrong feel free to correct me but I am quite sure about what i am saying and that's why you dont have issues with a mac
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This sounds correct to me. I'm pretty annoyed though. Only had the contract a month, I was told I could move onto a more expensive plan within contract if I needed more allowance etc.. Phone up 3, not only do they not let you PAY MORE for a different plan, but they also don't let anyone shift onto the one plan ever, unless its a new contract.. So basically **** them... so even if I want to pay extra for tethering I can't... absolute nonsense...
I had the same issue with three. I downloaded masqued crusader from play store. Activated it and then started wireless/usb tether. It worked. That was a while back tho. On a payg sim card on a galaxy s on gb. Its worth a try though.
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i have been a big fan of tethering since my old iPhone days.
the switch to android has been a big step and i am not telling anyone to tether so please don't abuse this.
i used foxfi with proxy for about 4 months until last night. got a email from AT&t stating that i would be moved to a tethering plan for 65 dollars more a month and one less gig than i had before. so for all those that use foxfi with proxy, it doesn't work. i know pda net dosent work from friend who also got a letter, before me.
so i am stuck .. no more tethering for me.. i am actually retiring from it. but i still keep the option on my phone if such an emergency arises.
hears where i am asking for the opinions of the xda members. i am not sure how at&t knows, but they did, and it doesn't make sense that they scan all every packet of data. any ideas how they know?
i did do one thing that i found hidden on my samsung notei717. under network settings it only shows ONE apn. but... if you download a apn-manager it shows a hidden APN-att-entitlement. is this how they know? i thought it was only used for people who pay for tethering? is it also used to track tethering?
i ended up using a sql editor and removed the line for this APN from the(/data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/telephony.db) rebooted phone and now its gone, phone works well and i havent seen any problems yet. ( i did make a copy if anyone wants to see the original)
might anyone in here have any ideas of how at&t knew ?
i am more curious if anything.. even my wife told me, that i have a big enough screen, just use it as a computer from now on.
was it this APN that gave it away? (i tethered a android tablet for internet and games)
mac1845427 said:
i have been a big fan of tethering since my old iPhone days.
the switch to android has been a big step and i am not telling anyone to tether so please don't abuse this.
i used foxfi with proxy for about 4 months until last night. got a email from AT&t stating that i would be moved to a tethering plan for 65 dollars more a month and one less gig than i had before. so for all those that use foxfi with proxy, it doesn't work. i know pda net dosent work from friend who also got a letter, before me.
so i am stuck .. no more tethering for me.. i am actually retiring from it. but i still keep the option on my phone if such an emergency arises.
hears where i am asking for the opinions of the xda members. i am not sure how at&t knows, but they did, and it doesn't make sense that they scan all every packet of data. any ideas how they know?
i did do one thing that i found hidden on my samsung notei717. under network settings it only shows ONE apn. but... if you download a apn-manager it shows a hidden APN-att-entitlement. is this how they know? i thought it was only used for people who pay for tethering? is it also used to track tethering?
i ended up using a sql editor and removed the line for this APN from the(/data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/telephony.db) rebooted phone and now its gone, phone works well and i havent seen any problems yet. ( i did make a copy if anyone wants to see the original)
might anyone in here have any ideas of how at&t knew ?
i am more curious if anything.. even my wife told me, that i have a big enough screen, just use it as a computer from now on.
was it this APN that gave it away? (i tethered a android tablet for internet and games)
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Are you talking about using the built-in tethering, or some third-party app? I've never used the 3rd party app or proxy service for tethering.
baudilus said:
Are you talking about using the built-in tethering, or some third-party app? I've never used the 3rd party app or proxy service for tethering.
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FoxFi is a free app in play store.
Duplicate thread ????
OP Please post questions in the correct section. Q&A for questions.
And please do not post duplicate threads on the same subject, allow user to respond to your initial thread, no need for multiple threads. Thank You. Thread Closed.
I am very good at searching before I post questions, but I keep getting an error saying search is currently not available.
On my S3 there were ways to tether via WiFi and USB without being detected on my grandfathered in unlimited data play. Can anyone confirm that there is proven method via the LGOG. Ny phone is rooted, unlocked, custom kernel, snow rom, and various other mods.
If someone can confirm a working way of doing this, I will provide them with file hosting and subdomain on my server, with full ftp access... etc. Thanks!
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Also, let me know if this is in the wrong section
I used the native tethering on SnowJB fairly heavily without issue and as far as I can tell it was never detected.
I was rooted and running various ROMs on my Samsung Infuse a few months ago, and I got an email saying they would add the tethering service to my plan if I continued to use it.
A couple years ago I had a jailbroken iPhone and tethered a lot of data and never had an issue.
I have not yet tried on the LGOG in fear of getting a $40/month service automatically added to my bill.
Sorry I don't have an answer, just sharing my experience I've encountered while tethering.
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I am very good at searching before I post questions, but I keep getting an error saying search is currently not available.
On my S3 there were ways to tether via WiFi and USB without being detected on my grandfathered in unlimited data play. Can anyone confirm that there is proven method via the LGOG. Ny phone is rooted, unlocked, custom kernel, snow rom, and various other mods.
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avoiding detection would probably mean using a method that doesn't rewrite the TTL's on the outbound packets. I've used wifi-tether w/o issue as have many others, I'm sure. I suspect that wifi-tether doesn't preserve the TTL's, but people get away with it because the cost/benefit to carriers is to pick the top 1% of bandwidth users and examine their usage for good reason to stop them somehow, illegal tethering being a good convenient one.
I'm sorry I don't have a solution for you, as I've also searched for just such a thin and not found it. I am curious what others are doing for tethering on this device, though.
If used sparingly, you PROBABLY won't get caught. I used foxfi on my old phone on different occasions and never recieved any notifications about tethering.
jonasl (if you don't recognize the name, he is very good at what he does) had a post in the SnowJB thread a while back about fixing the tethering issues people were having. From what I understand of it, the tethering checks to see if AT&T customers have the entitlement to tether, but since this is a ported ROM, it isn't able to find out if you are entitled (the code doesn't exist to finish the check). His fix circumvents the check (which as he says "This will as a sideeffect also give you tethering even if you aren't paying for it").
I have implemented the fix in case I needed it, but have not had a need to tether since, so I can't vouch for it in that regard, I can say everything still works as expected.
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If you really want to avoid detection, you could run a socks proxy on your phone that forwards to another socks proxy on the internet. Then you need a way to use the socks proxy on your phone. On the client side it can be easy (web browsers have a socks proxy setting, and there are wrappers to socksify anything on your pc) or harder (if you're tethering a tablet or game console or something). Finally, you need a way to bring up both your wireless and mobile data connections at the same time - you could use wifi tether for this if you only need to tether wireless clients, or a more manual method if you need your phone to be a regular wifi client on your network.
Sorry if the title is ambiguous. This is what I am considering.
Scenario:
I have a router at home that is password protected. I frequently have guests coming over and sometimes, they need to have access to the Internet. My current situation/setup will result in me having to provide them my router password. The connection settings are then permanently saved on the guests' devices.
Desired Scenario:
I wish to use my Android phone (preferably Android 2.3.3) as an in-between. I would like the guests' devices to connect to my Android phone while the Android phone connects to the router.
As such, the guests' devices will only see the Android phone acting as a router.
Doing so will allow me to maintain the password of my router as a secret, while giving me more flexibility in deciding what each device (perhaps by MAC address?) can do.
Question:
Is this even possible?
If so, could someone point me in the right direction?
Background knowledge:
I have very limited knowledge in Networking but am always open to learning new things.
I am generally strong in C language and am new to Android programming. However, I can pick things up on my own once I have a clear direction or reference that I can use.
The reason for targeting Android 2.3.3 is because this is the current version on my Sony X10 Mini Pro. The speakers have died and now it's just a piece of device sitting on my table.
I want to make it more useful, so I am exploring other possible functionalities.
As of now, it is configured as a webcam but I'm still trying to get it to work with Skype.
Thank you very much =)
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Sorry if the title is ambiguous. This is what I am considering.
Scenario:
I have a router at home that is password protected. I frequently have guests coming over and sometimes, they need to have access to the Internet. My current situation/setup will result in me having to provide them my router password. The connection settings are then permanently saved on the guests' devices.
Desired Scenario:
I wish to use my Android phone (preferably Android 2.3.3) as an in-between. I would like the guests' devices to connect to my Android phone while the Android phone connects to the router.
As such, the guests' devices will only see the Android phone acting as a router.
Doing so will allow me to maintain the password of my router as a secret, while giving me more flexibility in deciding what each device (perhaps by MAC address?) can do.
Question:
Is this even possible?
If so, could someone point me in the right direction?
Background knowledge:
I have very limited knowledge in Networking but am always open to learning new things.
I am generally strong in C language and am new to Android programming. However, I can pick things up on my own once I have a clear direction or reference that I can use.
The reason for targeting Android 2.3.3 is because this is the current version on my Sony X10 Mini Pro. The speakers have died and now it's just a piece of device sitting on my table.
I want to make it more useful, so I am exploring other possible functionalities.
As of now, it is configured as a webcam but I'm still trying to get it to work with Skype.
Thank you very much =)
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it has been possible for years, apps like foxfi and pdanet from play store allow this!
ricky310711 said:
it has been possible for years, apps like foxfi and pdanet from play store allow this!
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Really?!?!
Damn!
I had no idea...foxfi and pdanet...
if it's not too much trouble, is there a free version that is not too much hassle? A quick search reveals that both foxfi and pdanet requires a restart from time to time for the free version.
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Really?!?!
Damn!
I had no idea...foxfi and pdanet...
if it's not too much trouble, is there a free version that is not too much hassle? A quick search reveals that both foxfi and pdanet requires a restart from time to time for the free version.
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just search wifi tether or wifi hotspot and you should be able to find a few!
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just search wifi tether or wifi hotspot and you should be able to find a few!
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thanks =)
guess i'll try those out then!
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thanks =)
guess i'll try those out then!
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no problem, if i helped be sure to hit that thanks button and reply if you encounter problems or have more questions!
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no problem, if i helped be sure to hit that thanks button and reply if you encounter problems or have more questions!
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Hi! Sorry for reviving a relatively dead thread.
I ran into a bit of a problem.
Most of the apps assume that I have a mobile data connection.
My phone does not have a mobile data connection and so it is unable to tether.
What I would like is for my phone to connect to my home router while accepting incoming connections from other devices (phones, laptops, etc).
Basically I want it to be acting as an intermediate router, as shown by the simple diagram below.
Router <-------> Phone <--------> Other devices
<-------------> is Wifi connection.
Hope it's not impossible.
Thank you =).
swb90 said:
Hi! Sorry for reviving a relatively dead thread.
I ran into a bit of a problem.
Most of the apps assume that I have a mobile data connection.
My phone does not have a mobile data connection and so it is unable to tether.
What I would like is for my phone to connect to my home router while accepting incoming connections from other devices (phones, laptops, etc).
Basically I want it to be acting as an intermediate router, as shown by the simple diagram below.
Router <-------> Phone <--------> Other devices
<-------------> is Wifi connection.
Hope it's not impossible.
Thank you =).
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It can't work like that sorry, the only way it works is MobileData--->Phone<---OtherDevice
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It can't work like that sorry, the only way it works is MobileData--->Phone<---OtherDevice
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Awww shucks!!!
Thanks =)
I guess I'll try to think of something else to do with my phone =)
swb90 said:
Awww shucks!!!
Thanks =)
I guess I'll try to think of something else to do with my phone =)
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That's okay check out my tool! It's got plenty of options! Check if our in my signature