Hey all!! Recently purchased this wonderful phone, and am loving it. One thing that kind of bothers me is the performance. Certain games that I run on my OG Evo are crap, but on the new LTE, it's great. HOWEVER, it's not as great as I thought it would be. An example would be "Blood and Glory." My buddy has a SG2, and it's pretty smooth on that, but on my LTE, it doesn't seem as smooth, and gets choppy sometimes. Is it because Sense is bogging the system down?
Am I the only one with this problem? Or am I just being overly critical?
I'm rooted, and running Flex's Stock Rom + Ultimate dual cpu mod.
Any input would be much appreciated, because this is bothering me!
I would guess it's either a software fix they'll do soon or Sense, it seems to take a lot of processes/RAM, so it could be a culprit. Not sure, try a more barebones one and see how well it works compared. Could always nandroid back easily.
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It's not optimized yet. Glu just did it for the X-Play.
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Yeah, I had a feeling it was mainly sense.
ANd i guess since our phones are brand new, optimizations haven't been made yet?
BUT, do any of you guys see any sort of "lag" or am i paranoid?
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Yeah, I had a feeling it was mainly sense.
ANd i guess since our phones are brand new, optimizations haven't been made yet?
BUT, do any of you guys see any sort of "lag" or am i paranoid?
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I think you're just paranoid...
Everyone that is a smarphone owner is always hypercritical of their new device when they first get it. I still have my OG Epic and occasionally play with ROMs with it because of the Hardware keyboard+gamergrip, and i realize how much smoother the EvoLTE is compared to a 2 year old device. Yes there are some times where i have many apps running and hit menu but sense has to restart, but all in all, it's a helluva lot faster phone than any device on the Sprint market as of now.
Give it some time and let the Devs do their thing. SG2 has been out for quite longer than the EvoLTE; they have many more optimizations and tweaks than we do.
I compared Tiny Tower on my Epic Touch to the EVO LTE and i think the Epic Touch is smoother.
But since they are different manufactures, different resolutions and densities its not a fair comparison. I just know in past devices when im comparing stuff, games seem to flow better on Sammy devices.
Overall im still happy with my EVO LTE. Cant wait for LTE to go live where im at.
No you are definitely not paranoid. The phone does lag a bit. I've noticed this after I use many apps or if I don't restart the phone for some time. I've tried a couple of different roms like Fresh, Viper and Charmeleon and they all have some UI lag after a while...I think we just have to wait for HTC to release an update for sense.
It's not a hardware issue. The app simply isn't optimized for our software. It's an issue for the app dev of a given app to figure out.
This phone handles 1080p content np, nova 3 without issue, and I have yet to feel it be anything but fast with apps/interface
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DarkManX4lf said:
No you are definitely not paranoid. The phone does lag a bit. I've noticed this after I use many apps or if I don't restart the phone for some time. I've tried a couple of different roms like Fresh, Viper and Charmeleon and they all have some UI lag after a while...I think we just have to wait for HTC to release an update for sense.
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This was one of my main reason with this phone right out the box. At first I thought of rooting right away and hoping the custom rom would have a much better handling to this UI lag but your post stated the oppisite.
Man I really love this phone but lag such as multitasking, games like Temple Run, and the ability to not play HD (720p or 1080p) directly from the browser in desktop mode is very frustrating to ME. I'm hoping a lot of this has to do with stinking Sense UI and not the S4 itself. If the S4 itself to blame then the Samsung GS3 will probably won't be silky smooth either right out the box.
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This phone handles 1080p content np, Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710a using XDA
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Nah ah, try switching to 720p or 1080p on youtube video "DIRECTLY" from you browser (not youtube app) in desktop mode, then come back to me. Again, I don't know if it's this phone or the S4 inside this phone that struggling, cause that's the case the Samsung GS3 US variant won't be good either due to the same S4 being used.
I haven't noticed any lag but what does irritate me is the Damn multitasking. What's the point of opening more than 1 tab when 2 sec later you have to reload the whole tab all over again. I don't see how HTC dropped the ball on that one when the OG and 3D handled multitasking so perfectly
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Hmm I have no real lag issues but I also don't use many apps at all but the performance is solid just sense once again Boggs it down I think once the dev scene picks up many of these issues will go away I was almost convinced to get the s3 us ver but I love the look of this phone ..
Plus community is a lot better than in the past with the 3d to much android on android hate lol
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I don't feel the lag yet, but it can be totally depending on the phone you used before.
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I don't feel the lag yet, but it can be totally depending on the phone you used before.
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I had an Evo 3d before this and that phone didn't lag as much.... Even on stock rom.
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I haven't noticed any lag but what does irritate me is the Damn multitasking. What's the point of opening more than 1 tab when 2 sec later you have to reload the whole tab all over again. I don't see how HTC dropped the ball on that one when the OG and 3D handled multitasking so perfectly
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Dunno if you've rooted or plan to, but I found out that it isn't a solely a memory issue, but more of one with the sense multitasking "app". If you run the Charmeleon ROM and switch to the native ICS switcher.. Your apps never do that refresh nonsense
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i applied the v6 supercharger and that seems to help smooth it even more
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
I'd say wait and give it a couple of updates first. HTC usually smooths things out as time goes on.
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Yeah, all of your guys concerns are what I've been thinking about too... I'm HOPING that HTC or app devs try to optimize software for our hardware with the programs that are out now...
I WAS expecting blazing speeds and crazy performance, but I haven't been "WOWED" yet.
Yeah, the Evo LTE just came out about a week ago, so I'm still giving it a chance.... 2 months TOPS!!!!!
If there aren't any improvements that REALLY "WOW" me, then I'll be really disappointed that I stayed loyal to HTC, instead of going with the SG3
If I defected over to Sammy it would only be for a nexus device but rumors are the next nexus is going to be made by multiple people... We will see how that works out or if its true.
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Overall my phone is very fast and smooth..but I've always been an early adopter (launch day) with all my phone ...hero , og , 3d and now LTE..I have come to expect some bugs initially ..and think if your a picky or inpatient person than u shouldn't buy a phone when it first drops..if u think the issue here is hardware related than that's just stupid IMO..
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I've had my e3d for just about a year now. My first smartphone was the og evo and I loved it. It was the first time I got to experience life with a smartphone. I have to admit I heard about root access a few months after getting the phone. I was hesitant at first at it took a while but I eventually got too curious and had to see what this was all about. Now I work at best buy and one of the dudes from geek squad had the same phone (og evo) and he had been telling me that the way to go was cyanogenmod. So I listened, rooted my phone and played around with some sense Roms. I then downloaded cm6 and fell in love.
I eventually had a bunch of LCD screen issues with the phone... nothing too bad but I got the infamous "b spot" which was a lighter spot in the screen where the b key would be if you had the keyboard open. I had my screen replaced a few times and then eventually traded it in and payed 50 new contract for the e3d.
First impressions of the phone was overall response and load time with the stock rom being so good, which I was stoked about because the thought of having it rooted with a sick rom was orgasmic. Then revolutionary came along and got access. Rooted right away and have been happy since. This phone has some sick roms and is still, spec wise a very great phone. But when cm9 fully drops, this phone will be that much greater.
Then I hear news of the galaxy nexus and the EVO 4G LTE... I am now torn. I love tthe products HTC puts out but their dev support has been a nightmare so far... that's why I am more inclined to go with a nexus phone even though the 4G LTE looks and sounds so pretty. What are your feelings?
I hope I end up with the 4G LTE but I am still quite on the fence.
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Well with the Galaxy Nexus you do get an amoled screen, an option for an official extended battery that doesn't make it look hideous, and will be first in line for updates. It seems to have a pretty decent dev following too.
I was considering getting it as well but opted for the 3D because it was half the price, still a powerhouse of a phone, and had Sense on it (which I happen to love). Only problem is 3.0 is laggy as hell, Sense 3.5 ports have tiny text and Sense 4.0 doesn't even look that good.
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Well with the Galaxy Nexus you do get an amoled screen, an option for an official extended battery that doesn't make it look hideous, and will be first in line for updates. It seems to have a pretty decent dev following too.
I was considering getting it as well but opted for the 3D because it was half the price, still a powerhouse of a phone, and had Sense on it (which I happen to love). Only problem is 3.0 is laggy as hell, Sense 3.5 ports have tiny text and Sense 4.0 doesn't even look that good.
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See I kind of like what I am seeing from sense 4.0. It looks much cleaner and lighter than previous sense overlays. Sense has always been sort of overwhelming and bulky. Idk I've played around with friends' Samsung, Motorola, and LG phones. Touch wiz seems lighter and the colors on those super amoled screens are mesmerizing. But the s LCD qhd screen on the e3d is nice. Colors seem more real. I've always found the super amoled Samsung screens to be too cartoonish... if you can understand what I'm saying. But something about them. Idk what it is. I've never liked any Motorola phone I've came across... I.e. Droid 1 2 3 4, Droid x, razr, even the photon. My friends atrix 2 is solid but I still wouldn't buy it. And LG seems to be on the fence. Making sweet phones and then not... my buddy has the g2x on t mobile. I recently rooted it for him. He likes it better with cm7 but again I don't think I would spend money on the phone.
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Only problem is 3.0 is laggy as hell
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Sense with stock ROM and kernel is laggy, but if you root and run a custom ROM and kernel, it is smooth as butter.
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What are your feelings?
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I am torn as well. When my contract ends, maybe they will have something better. I like the LTE in the new phone, but a nonremovable battery could be an issue for those times when the phone locks up (rooted or not).
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Sense with stock ROM and kernel is laggy, but if you root and run a custom ROM and kernel, it is smooth as butter.
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Ive used leedroid, kingcobra and insertcoin and none of them have a smooth home screen experience, even with the supposed ultra smooth rosie tweak, it still chugs along at 20fps (or lower with several widgets). Compare it to Sense 3.5, far smoother.
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Ive used leedroid, kingcobra and insertcoin and none of them have a smooth home screen experience, even with the supposed ultra smooth rosie tweak, it still chugs along at 20fps (or lower with several widgets). Compare it to Sense 3.5, far smoother.
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I guess I wasn't specific as to the smooth as butter custom ROM . I'm running MeanROM with the Ziggy kernel. It is CDMA only and judging by your ROMs and location, you are GSM, so it would not work for you unfortunately.
I would use Sense 3.5 as it looks really slick, but all the CDMA Sense 3.5 ROMs I've looked into have issues getting my carrier's 4g working (which i rely on at work).
Just wanted to give my general impressions on the Note. I'm a former iPhone user and jumped to the skyrocketing in January. I'm a total noob with rooting and flashing but I'm pretty competent with the help of xda. Ended up cracking the screen on the skyrocket and purchased the note last week. I was pretty impressed with it stock for about an hour and couldn't resist rooting.
The Team objection ics rom is out of this world, Unbelievable, 0 bugs, 0 lag, everything is flawless with good battery life to boot. I believe the developer is appdroid and I'd just like to extend my thank you for creating such a piece of artwork.
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Glad you enjoy it, I find rooting is like a plastic surgery, it pleases you for some time but gotta adjust it often. I am all natural my friends, stock with go launcher running. I am more than pleased. Natural 5.3"
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My girlfriend was digging the note when she saw it. It appealed to my inner nerd as well. So we went to AT&T and got a couple, she got the white, I got the blue. We are coming from sprint, and have yet to cancel our contract with them. We wanted to give the note and at&t a try before we fully jumped ship on sprint. I think I am ok with the service through at&t, so I am ok with trading sprint in for them.
The note is interesting. I don't like the default browser, it doesn't seem to zoom on web pages effectively, like it doesn't wrap text to make it readable. But I downloaded a new browser and thats fixed. The battery gets me through the work day, but with what I consider medium usage at best, it's only lasting 10 hours, which seems a little low, especially when I hear the ICS update is making the battery even worse.
I was hoping to be a little bit more wow'd by the note. But coming from an HTC evo, to the note isn't nearly the jump of going from my blackberry curve to the evo. I feel like with a phone this big I should be able to do some amazing things with it, but thus far I haven't figured out what it can really do.
It seems like a really great device, I just want to find ways to make it better or make it do more. Once I convince myself to keep the note, I know I will root it and start flashing, so I am sure that will help me scratch an itch. So I am glad to hear you are liking that rom. But I can't start scratching until I know I am keeping the phone. So I need to find ways/things to convince myself.
Mike208 - I am sure battery life will get better. My first android phone was a Samsung Captivate. In the beginning it was good for about 2.5 hours of screen time a day and made it through the day with push email. In the end I would regularly get about 3.5- 4 hours a day and come home with about 55% battery instead of 30%. In time i believe this phone will have a similar life.
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I was hoping to be a little bit more wow'd by the note. But coming from an HTC evo, to the note isn't nearly the jump of going from my blackberry curve to the evo. I feel like with a phone this big I should be able to do some amazing things with it, but thus far I haven't figured out what it can really do.
It seems like a really great device, I just want to find ways to make it better or make it do more. Once I convince myself to keep the note, I know I will root it and start flashing, so I am sure that will help me scratch an itch. So I am glad to hear you are liking that rom. But I can't start scratching until I know I am keeping the phone. So I need to find ways/things to convince myself.
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Well, what more are you looking for when you got the Note? The GNex is pure Android ICS, the HTC one X selling point was the camera, The iPhone 4S was Siri, and the Note is S-Pen and Huge screen. I never owned the Evo so I dont know what its selling point was but I'd think the 4inch screen to 5.3inch with higher resolution, single core to dual core processor, S-pen, thinner, ICS leaks latest os firmware, and 4G LTE is a jump. I wish the Note could cook us breakfast too but Apple has a patent on it.
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
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Well, what more are you looking for when you got the Note? The GNex is pure Android ICS, the HTC one X selling point was the camera, The iPhone 4S was Siri, and the Note is S-Pen and Huge screen. I never owned the Evo so I dont know what its selling point was but I'd think the 4inch screen to 5.3inch with higher resolution, single core to dual core, S-pen, thinner, ICS leaks latest os firmware, and 4G LTE is a jump. I wish the Note could cook us breakfast too but Apple has a patent on it.
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
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Well said! I for one have discovered the joys of photography and drawing
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@Mike208
Just like you, I tested the Note and ATT's network before jumping from my beloved OG EVO and Sprint. Like stated in the above post, every device has a selling point. The Note's selling point is the 5.3" screen and SPen...which I absolutely love. I would suggest learning how to use the SPen and SMemo. I use these tools often and love what they provide. Also, with my short time with a custom ICS ROM, I was loving what is coming down the pipe with ICS. I only switched back to GB, because I want to wait for the source to be released. Otherwise, ICS will really give this device a boost to the top.
Last, a friend at work just got the LTEVO. I had a chance to play with it for awhile and while it is certainly a great device, I didn't feel any buyers remorse. Since I'm so used to my Note, the LTEVO actually felt a bit to small for my taste. I guess it's true about not going back to a smaller screen, lol.
At the end of the day, I love my Note and can't see me going to another device anytime soon. Oh ATT's network is as fast as they claim too. It was kind of painful to see such a great device on a subpar network...at least until Sprint gets their network running the way it should. I actually have faith in Sprint and I'm rooting for them too.
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Just like you, I tested the Note and ATT's network before jumping from my beloved OG EVO and Sprint. Like stated in the above post, every device has a selling point. The Note's selling point is the 5.3" screen and SPen...which I absolutely love. I would suggest learning how to use the SPen and SMemo. I use these tools often and love what they provide. Also, with my short time with a custom ICS ROM, I was loving what is coming down the pipe with ICS. I only switched back to GB, because I want to wait for the source to be released. Otherwise, ICS will really give this device a boost to the top.
Last, a friend at work just got the LTEVO. I had a chance to play with it for awhile and while it is certainly a great device, I didn't feel any buyers remorse. Since I'm so used to my Note, the LTEVO actually felt a bit to small for my taste. I guess it's true about not going back to a smaller screen, lol.
At the end of the day, I love my Note and can't see me going to another device anytime soon. Oh ATT's network is as fast as they claim too. It was kind of painful to see such a great device on a subpar network...at least until Sprint gets their network running the way it should. I actually have faith in Sprint and I'm rooting for them too.
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Don't get me wrong, I am not complaining. I got the phone because of its size. I was originally annoyed at the way the default browser handled web pages, btu fixed that with a new browser. I shouldn't say I am not wow'd with it. Just sayign when I got my evo I played with it and played with it and played with it. I haven't really got the bug to play with the note like that. I am sure its because it's not a new OS, like the evo was for me.
Yes I do need to learn to use the S-pen and S-memo, I don't really use either. My hand writing is not so great, and even worse on this device lol. I am definitely anxious for ICS, or at least to be able to root and flash.
I think I was expecting to do more with all the screen real estate. But obviously the more widgets I add, the worse my battery is. Well I am off to play with it some and see what I can figure out.
Mike208, my friend I think you have it correct. Switching OS's will give you that desire to play and play and play. Like you, I came from a Crackberry and I played with my EVO forever it seemed. So when you update to ICS, it will give you some new things to discover.
On the wow factor was the data speeds! Not to mention the Note is fast stock. I still like to turn on my Note and marvel at the screen, lol.
I say try to learn and use every aspect of this device...it will really surprise you. Good luck and have fun!
And I didn't think you were complaining, just asking questions.
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I think I was expecting to do more with all the screen real estate. But obviously the more widgets I add, the worse my battery is. Well I am off to play with it some and see what I can figure out.
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When your eyeballs get as old as mine, all that screen real estate is wonderful! I don't have to zoom in nearly as far to be able to read it.
I too came from the EVO 4G, and I got that because at the time it had the biggest screen available, now the Note has (well, if you discount the Dell Streak).
My note has replaced both my EVO and my 7" Galaxy Tab (original version), now I only need to carry one device. There are compromises on both ends, but nothing I can’t live with.
I can agree stock is OK but I really wasn't wowed because I came from the ics leak on the skyrocket so I was used to ics for a few months. But the rom with all the s3 features and customizations it owns everything out.
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Long time xda lurker and I think this is my first post. Replying here because I too came from sprint with my beloved original evo 4G running cm7. I keep getting offers from friends to buy my evo and I keep turning them down. I think I'm going to throw AOKP on it since it's supported.
Anyway, I live in Dallas/Fort Worth and my 4G speeds were always amazing. Having said that, the biggest wow factor for me with the move to att and the note has been the awesome data speeds. Little stuff, like d/ling a 3 meg app from the market is just ridiculously fast and comparable to my home uverse on the fastest plan.
My battery life is decent if I can keep it out of my fiance's hands and her constant playing of draw something and zombie lane.
I'm using SwiftKey Tablet Beta 3 because I love the word predictions. I was a long time swype user but it seems too inaccurate on the note. That's without the spen.
I'm using go launcher ex even though it is a laborious process finding good themes.
Haven't rooted yet because I've realized it's quite different going from an HTC phone to Samsung and wanted to get comfortable before switching.
Edit: guess this was my 2nd post
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I'm using SwiftKey Tablet Beta 3 because I love the word predictions. I was a long time swype user but it seems too inaccurate on the note. That's without the spen.
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For Swype to work accurate, you need to turn off languages other than English, ( or whatever you using) in swype settings.
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I can agree stock is OK but I really wasn't wowed because I came from the ics leak on the skyrocket so I was used to ics for a few months. But the rom with all the s3 features and customizations it owns everything out.
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Yeah I was considering the S3 because it had some cool sounding features. So I am definitely interested in getting my root/flash on with this note. I may even take a crack at developing my own rom with this bad boy. I would love to see something like Diablos 4 Kornerz rom on the note
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1612933
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For Swype to work accurate, you need to turn off languages other than English, ( or whatever you using) in swype settings.
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That does seem to drastically help the accuracy when using Swype with my index finger. I'm going to give it a try again.
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One more random thing. I thought I would try and run quadrant just for fun and after killing some background apps and ram using go taskmanager and go power master my stock unrooted note scored a 3100. Not sure if that is impressive or not but seems to be decent given other scores I've come across. Makes me look forward to ics roms even more.
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Just tried an interesting experiment. Was running more quadrant tests and my score never got higher than 2500. I realized the only thing different was having swype set as default keyboard. Switched back to SwiftKey and scored 3053 on first try. Food for thought.
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Just tried an interesting experiment. Was running more quadrant tests and my score never got higher than 2500. I realized the only thing different was having swype set as default keyboard. Switched back to SwiftKey and scored 3053 on first try. Food for thought.
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Quadrant means nothing. I used to get 3000+ on my HD2 (2009 technology) which isn't even an official android device.
I have the note, and I am still within my 30 days....I have been having lots of LAG....not sure but it doesn't seem to happen to everyone. I am thinking about contacting amazon wireless for a replacement. I too am dying to root this thing as I have been running ICS on my T-Mobile G2 for several months and absolutely loved it. My battery life increased by nearly 50% and performance overall increased as well. I did have it OC'd to about 1.5Ghz (from 800Mgz stock)
I am contemplating the SG3 but, yesterday I used a friends SG2 and the 4.5 screen seemed tiny, nearly "non-functional" LOL. The SG2 is much more fluid than my SGN.
Anyone who has had lag issues ...how have you dealt with it?
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I have the note, and I am still within my 30 days....I have been having lots of LAG....not sure but it doesn't seem to happen to everyone. I am thinking about contacting amazon wireless for a replacement. I too am dying to root this thing as I have been running ICS on my T-Mobile G2 for several months and absolutely loved it. My battery life increased by nearly 50% and performance overall increased as well. I did have it OC'd to about 1.5Ghz (from 800Mgz stock)
I am contemplating the SG3 but, yesterday I used a friends SG2 and the 4.5 screen seemed tiny, nearly "non-functional" LOL. The SG2 is much more fluid than my SGN.
Anyone who has had lag issues ...how have you dealt with it?
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Dude.. keep the Note and put Team perfection's Objection Rom on it... you will be blown away..
I'm most likely leaving AT&T and coming to Sprint. There are 3 good phones on Sprint and it's really hard to decide which one to get. The Evo 4g LTE, SGS3, or the GN for Jelly Bean. If anyone could give me their opinions on those 3 devices (best roms, mods, etc.) that would be great. The GN is now only $99 on Sprint. Ugh. I hate that I can never make a decision.
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I'm most likely leaving AT&T and coming to Sprint. There are 3 good phones on Sprint and it's really hard to decide which one to get. The Evo 4g LTE, SGS3, or the GN for Jelly Bean. If anyone could give me their opinions on those 3 devices (best roms, mods, etc.) that would be great. The GN is now only $99 on Sprint. Ugh. I hate that I can never make a decision.
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I am having a similar issue. Im deciding betwees the s3 and the white evo lte. But I think im going with the evo tomorrow morning. It has better reviews. I have the ps2 for Sprint and the s3 does not seem that much of an upgrade to me.
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There's a couple of other threads with people on similar positions as you guys. Just search around. They are pretty fact driven
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I just did the exact same move, I had all three phones in the past three weeks.. i ended up with the EVO, and I'm very happy with it. The nexus had subpar battery, and bad signal strength.
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I have both the S3 and EVO. You can't go wrong with either one. If you need some help deciding go to this great review comparing both
EVO LTE vs Galaxy S3
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I just did the exact same move, I had all three phones in the past three weeks.. i ended up with the EVO, and I'm very happy with it. The nexus had subpar battery, and bad signal strength.
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What did you like of the EVO over the sgs3?
Also I looked on Sprint's coverage map and it shows that I am in "fair" territory. Does that mean I'll have poor signal?
I'm in the same boat. I have been an Android user since Day 1 since Oct 2007. I loved it. But I bought the Samsung Vibrant 2 years ago and was very sure that I would never buy another Samsung phone given their sorry upgrade track record and not releasing source code and binaries for their radios. So i was pretty sure I was going to grab the One X. The EVO LTE looks like the best one since it had a micro SD card and a dedicated camera button. The lack of removable battery is a problem, but after reading the reviews on the battery life, I thought I'd risk it.
But two things happened. Samsung released the same S3 model (bar the CPU for the US market) all over the world and they released the source code almost immediately. They don't have a locked bootloader (I know the HTC allows you to unlock it - bit it breaks the warranty). I hated ODIN initially, but it does make the Samsung phones practically unbrickable and they don't lock the bootloader, so I don't lose the warranty if I root it and install a custom ROM. I can always ODIN it back to stock and get a replacement if something goes wrong with the phone.
I haven't been keeping up with the HTC ROMs anymore so I don't know how it's going these days. I have been using ICS on my Vibrant since December. How long have you guys had an ICS ROM for the original EVO?
What's giving me pause in going for the EVO LTE is
1. Would the custom ROM scene on the EVO LTE be as good as the one on the S3? Given that the S3 is practically the same worldwide and Steve Kondik is now a Samsung employee with access to resources that might help CM10?
2. The reports of the multi-tasking on the EVO LTE are worrying. If the reason that the battery life is decent on the One X is because it's aggressively dropping background processes, that's not what I want. If I wanted crippled multi-tasking, I'd have bought an iPhone. How's the multi-tasking? If you load a game in the background, a browser loading a page in the background and switch to the email app, is it responsive? If you go back to the browser, does it start loading the page again? Or has it finished loading the page? I use planetandroid.com as my test case since it gives even Firefox on the desktop a problem (although Chrome on the desktop doesn't have any issues with it).
3. I read that it's because Sense is so resource hungry, they traded the multi-tasking to keep it in memory, but I see that that still doesn't work and Sense does keep getting swapped out and has to restart when exiting email or the browser or some big game. Is this still a problem with Nova Launcher? I read that this has been set at the kernel level. Does Auto Memory Manager help? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lim.android.automemman
I guess the extra 1 GB on the S3 helps. I have read some comparisons that the S3 is smoother multitasking than the EVO LTE.
I'd love to hear whether these are real problems or a custom ROM would solve them.
Edit: BTW, my biggest problem with the S3 is the display. It looks very dim. The One X simply smokes it!
Thanks guys.
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I'm in the same boat. I have been an Android user since Day 1 since Oct 2007. I loved it. But I bought the Samsung Vibrant 2 years ago and was very sure that I would never buy another Samsung phone given their sorry upgrade track record and not releasing source code and binaries for their radios. So i was pretty sure I was going to grab the One X. The EVO LTE looks like the best one since it had a micro SD card and a dedicated camera button. The lack of removable battery is a problem, but after reading the reviews on the battery life, I thought I'd risk it.
But two things happened. Samsung released the same S3 model (bar the CPU for the US market) all over the world and they released the source code almost immediately. They don't have a locked bootloader (I know the HTC allows you to unlock it - bit it breaks the warranty). I hated ODIN initially, but it does make the Samsung phones practically unbrickable and they don't lock the bootloader, so I don't lose the warranty if I root it and install a custom ROM. I can always ODIN it back to stock and get a replacement if something goes wrong with the phone.
I haven't been keeping up with the HTC ROMs anymore so I don't know how it's going these days. I have been using ICS on my Vibrant since December. How long have you guys had an ICS ROM for the original EVO?
What's giving me pause in going for the EVO LTE is
1. Would the custom ROM scene on the EVO LTE be as good as the one on the S3? Given that the S3 is practically the same worldwide and Steve Kondik is now a Samsung employee with access to resources that might help CM10?
2. The reports of the multi-tasking on the EVO LTE are worrying. If the reason that the battery life is decent on the One X is because it's aggressively dropping background processes, that's not what I want. If I wanted crippled multi-tasking, I'd have bought an iPhone. How's the multi-tasking? If you load a game in the background, a browser loading a page in the background and switch to the email app, is it responsive? If you go back to the browser, does it start loading the page again? Or has it finished loading the page? I use planetandroid.com as my test case since it gives even Firefox on the desktop a problem (although Chrome on the desktop doesn't have any issues with it).
3. I read that it's because Sense is so resource hungry, they traded the multi-tasking to keep it in memory, but I see that that still doesn't work and Sense does keep getting swapped out and has to restart when exiting email or the browser or some big game. Is this still a problem with Nova Launcher? I read that this has been set at the kernel level. Does Auto Memory Manager help? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lim.android.automemman
I guess the extra 1 GB on the S3 helps. I have read some comparisons that the S3 is smoother multitasking than the EVO LTE.
I'd love to hear whether these are real problems or a custom ROM would solve them.
Edit: BTW, my biggest problem with the S3 is the display. It looks very dim. The One X simply smokes it!
Thanks guys.
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After the updates sense no longer reloads, for me anyway. Multitasking aside, the One X has had the best battery life on any phone I've ever had by far. Android or iPhone. I love the One X that's why this is so hard for me to decide. The white Evo LTE looks sick. I'm also starting to like the customization of the sgs3 the more reviews I watch of it.
I just got 3 hours of screen on time on my One X before it got to 50%. By far my best yet.
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What did you like of the EVO over the sgs3?
Also I looked on Sprint's coverage map and it shows that I am in "fair" territory. Does that mean I'll have poor signal?
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I bought the nexus and it was amazing with vanilla ics roms were pretty awesome too, the curve to your hand made it by far the best hand held experience of any phone the only down side to it had sub par battery life I had to carry 2 batteries
I now have bought an EVO LTE and its nice but I think cause of the non curve it feels like a mini tablet atleast to me , but holy carp is it fast and snappy , and super bright, I did like a whole lot better on the nexus was swiping left to right to close out the task menu , sense made it so you can only go up to close them out wich Is slow and they didn't add the feature in the browser like the nexus did
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If you go with the S3 u will be happy, after I had it for a couple of days all the extra customization of the S3 seemed trivial.and gimmicky, it was cool at first especially the gestures... But I ended up not using them at all. Yes I think the S3 is smoother than the EVO, but not by much. I hated the physical home button, it had way too much lag, and that's even with the S-voice turned off. You don't get full use of the home screen realestate on the stock UX, which was annoying. Those where my only complaints. My past three phones have been sammys, that's another reason I chose the HTC, I just wanted a change, and the build quality(external) and feel of an HTC phone in my opinion is far superior to Samsung. In the end don't beat yourself up with the desicion you will be extremely happy with either phone. Oh and I made the switch to sprint from ATT due to ATT raping me on data charges... Now I have to sacrafice service, but its worth the trade off.
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If you go with the S3 u will be happy, after I had it for a couple of days all the extra customization of the S3 seemed trivial.and gimmicky, it was cool at first especially the gestures... But I ended up not using them at all. Yes I think the S3 is smoother than the EVO, but not by much. I hated the physical home button, it had way too much lag, and that's even with the S-voice turned off. You don't get full use of the home screen realestate on the stock UX, which was annoying. Those where my only complaints. My past three phones have been sammys, that's another reason I chose the HTC, I just wanted a change, and the build quality(external) and feel of an HTC phone in my opinion is far superior to Samsung. In the end don't beat yourself up with the desicion you will be extremely happy with either phone. Oh and I made the switch to sprint from ATT due to ATT raping me on data charges... Now I have to sacrafice service, but its worth the trade off.
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With the Evo having source out now do you think it will get jb fairly quick? Same question for sgs3.
Also my One X gets pretty hot and I don't know if it's the battery causing it. I would love to be able to change out the battery. I miss that option.
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What did you like of the EVO over the sgs3?
Also I looked on Sprint's coverage map and it shows that I am in "fair" territory. Does that mean I'll have poor signal?
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I have "fair" coverage and I needed to get an Airave because I had zero or one bar everywhere in my house and couldn't have a conversation with anyone. Luckily, they gave me an Airave for free so now I have five or six bars everywhere in my house.
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Get a white EVO LTE and trade me lol I'd pay some cash too
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I wouldnt get sprint period for atleasr another year
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I wouldnt get sprint period for atleasr another year
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More info please....
the NV upgrades near me have been brutal, tons of dropped calls, especially while on the move, but even still while sitting at home. I would also check the NV upgrade schedule to see if they are even coming to your area any time soon...I agree though, wait on sprint until NV is up and running in your area.
The S3 is indeed almost identical as the international version, with the exception that it uses the S4 krait like the ones in the Evo LTE, putting it in the same situation as the LTE and the One X. The One X's community looks to be pretty active, but with a different processor than ours, the roms are not exactly interchangable, so i would expect the same issue to be present for the LTE-specced S3s.
If you're talking about development though then the multitasking and sense issues shouldn't be a problem unless you actually like sense, in which case all i have to say is you're boned .
I chose the Evo because I like how solid aluminum bodied phones feel, and I have never liked the oversaturation that is present on every amoled-based screen that i've looked at. I held off upgrading from my OG Evo because when i held the SGS2 and then the Gnex, they both felt flimsy and cheap in my hands compared to my Evo. I'm sure that they're probably all equally fragile when dropped, but for something where i'm holding it any time i'm going to use it, the feel was very important to me, so i would say it mostly comes down to personal preference, like Mitsu Evo vs Subaru STi, or Cameros vs Mustangs, test drive them both and see which one you'd like best.
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The S3 is indeed almost identical as the international version, with the exception that it uses the S4 krait like the ones in the Evo LTE, putting it in the same situation as the LTE and the One X. The One X's community looks to be pretty active, but with a different processor than ours, the roms are not exactly interchangable, so i would expect the same issue to be present for the LTE-specced S3s.
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Yes. The same issue would be present for the S3 if the CPU is the only change. But I expect that the S3 would be probably be a well supported phone since it would sell so many and many devs would have it. I have been out of the HTC scene for a couple of years so don't know if the EVO has had good custom ROM support. eg. I have been running ICS since Dec/Jan on my Vibrant.
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If you're talking about development though then the multitasking and sense issues shouldn't be a problem unless you actually like sense, in which case all i have to say is you're boned .
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Sorry, what does "you're boned" mean? I'm an idiot for liking Sense, or if i use Sense, then the multitasking is a problem? I like the stock Google UI using Nova Launcher. But I haven't seen any definitive answer on whether using Nova Launcher alleviates the multi-tasking problem. If it does, then I'd be okay with not using Sense, although I do like some Sense widgets. But I can live with out them.
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I chose the Evo because I like how solid aluminum bodied phones feel, and I have never liked the oversaturation that is present on every amoled-based screen that i've looked at. I held off upgrading from my OG Evo because when i held the SGS2 and then the Gnex, they both felt flimsy and cheap in my hands compared to my Evo. I'm sure that they're probably all equally fragile when dropped, but for something where i'm holding it any time i'm going to use it, the feel was very important to me, so i would say it mostly comes down to personal preference, like Mitsu Evo vs Subaru STi, or Cameros vs Mustangs, test drive them both and see which one you'd like best.
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I have got used to the "flimsy" Samsung phones. I like the lightweight feel of them and they are surprisingly resilient. Check out the CNet's torture test for the S3. http://cnettv.cnet.com/8301-33814_53-57468819-10391737.html It's intense.
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Yes. The same issue would be present for the S3 if the CPU is the only change. But I expect that the S3 would be probably be a well supported phone since it would sell so many and many devs would have it. I have been out of the HTC scene for a couple of years so don't know if the EVO has had good custom ROM support. eg. I have been running ICS since Dec/Jan on my Vibrant.
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The S3 is definitely well supported and got a CM10 preview release this morning. The sprint variant has great devs lurking in the background so there's still lots of good stuff to see released.
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I'VE had this phone since day 1 of its UK release, took a little while but development has been pretty constant and in my opinion this is by far the best phone on the market, since buying this phone I've also bought an iPhone 4s (just to stay uptodate with Ios development) and a Samsung galaxy s2 and a galaxy s3, and without a shadow of a doubt, the EVO 3d (taking EVERYTHING into account) is far superior and far more durable than anything out there
Just saying.........
If you don't got a 3vo, your ain't got a 3vo, simples
Rant over.....ha ha ha
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If you don't got a 3vo, your ain't got a 3vo, simple/QUOTE]
Has been my favorite phone in a while I love this phone but I have the ghost finger
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I love my 3D, but it's not the most superior phone out there... Let's be realistic here.
I've had my 3VO about 6 months (i can't remember exactly how long....but around 6 i think). Bought it when ASDA had the deal for £250 (cheap )
Took it out the box, flashed Virus' rom and adored it even more. Went to LeeDroid, was blown away and now i'm on Mwakious' ICS and it's just perfect.
Awesome little phone, i love it
cdaniel76 said:
I love my 3D, but it's not the most superior phone out there... Let's be realistic here.
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I think your forgetting this phone is 3d, and I'm booting 9 roms successfully and I've scored 8225 in antutu, and my phones supports 64gb mem card with full 24hz beats audio
Now name a device that comes close to doing all of that ? I had an s3 (most powerful and feature filled) but that doesn't come close to the EVO 3d in my opinion
High end phones are very powerful, but the power of this, I can do everything or just about everything I need it to. A more powerful phone isn't a need.
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Hi Gav..... Witch rom gave you the super high score... Plz...
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Hi Gav..... Witch rom gave you the super high score... Plz...
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It was mwakious 12.3 with cool-z evoG 2.2 kernel, oc to 1.83 x2, amd ov 1.83 at 1350500mv, and v6 supercharger
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Hi Gav..... Witch rom gave you the super high score... Plz...
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I would like to now too! My stock rom ICS gives me pretty low score in benchmarks (Quadrant), a little more then my desire running CM7. Besides from that my battery is turning bad.. fortunate that i have mobile charger with me, and I believe this problem is not exclusive for this model.
What I do like is that even though I have dropped the phone without a case on the ground multiple times, but not a scratch or dent in the case nor the screen! All buttons still work and camera is stills sharp! (My desire has a non functioning volume button and a scratched glass that is in front of the camera).
cdaniel76 said:
I love my 3D, but it's not the most superior phone out there... Let's be realistic here.
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I'm waiting for a quad core to come out. Then I'll update. In the meantime, this phone still has much more power under the hood than most out there.
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I would like to now too! My stock rom ICS gives me pretty low score in benchmarks (Quadrant), a little more then my desire running CM7. Besides from that my battery is turning bad.. fortunate that i have mobile charger with me, and I believe this problem is not exclusive for this model.
What I do like is that even though I have dropped the phone without a case on the ground multiple times, but not a scratch or dent in the case nor the screen! All buttons still work and camera is stills sharp! (My desire has a non functioning volume button and a scratched glass that is in front of the camera).
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It was mwakious 12.3 with cool-z evoG 2.2 kernel, oc to 1.83 x2, amd ov 1.83 at 1350500mv, and v6 supercharger
my phone is battered, my extended battery case has cracks and chips all over it, and the metal framing around the phone is bent away from the phone, ive had it 13 months and must have dropped it a hundred times, but its still got plenty of life left in the old dog yet, i dropped it on a drain, right on the grids, the very first day i got it, before id even got it home, or switched it on, very lucky, but id chipped it and scratched away the black paintwork around the corners, so there was no point taking extra care with it since then lol
Yeah, this phone is really cool compare to my past devices.. I've had Galaxy 9003 and Xperia R800i. Both of it tends to so hot. the durability of the casing is better...
Now, with custom ROM + smartstay apps, I think this evo is better than SGS3 , Considering 3D features that We had
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For its gen of phones, the E3D is easily my favorite. Probably a little bias since it was what brought me over from the dark side, the company with a fruit logo. The 3D is fun, even if I don't use it a whole bunch. That said, hopefully HTC makes another 3D phone. I'd like to hold off for the next one.
The insides have held up well, but I've had faulty backplates. Apparently there was an issue with the first run of US phones where the glue was faulty in a few spots. HTC replaced them for free with little hassle though.
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I love my 3D, but it's not the most superior phone out there... Let's be realistic here.
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Oh come on. Okay, let's be realistic:
What would you realistically need a more powerful phone for? If you're dead-serious about n64-emulation, then I'll give you that. Apart from that literally everything from games to complex apps runs buttery smooth and with jb-roms becoming better and better, this will only improve.
Of course, if you're a die-hard gamer, there may be a market for those fancy quadcore-phones sometime soon, but apart from that, those new devices are only released to keep manufacturers afloat because they NEED to sell x amount of new phones every year, no matter what the software side actually needs to run.
The hardware side is WAY ahead of the software development and it's been like that for quite some time.
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Oh come on. Okay, let's be realistic:
What would you realistically need a more powerful phone for? If you're dead-serious about n64-emulation, then I'll give you that. Apart from that literally everything from games to complex apps runs buttery smooth and with jb-roms becoming better and better, this will only improve.
Of course, if you're a die-hard gamer, there may be a market for those fancy quadcore-phones sometime soon, but apart from that, those new devices are only released to keep manufacturers afloat because they NEED to sell x amount of new phones every year, no matter what the software side actually needs to run.
The hardware side is WAY ahead of the software development and it's been like that for quite some time.
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i think youll find video editing is the most cpu n gpu intensive, i edit a lot of video on my phonee, thanks to androvid pro, also flashing a rom in bootmanager from a rom with a higher oc, the process is faster,
and yeah like you say, in jb, its generally faster than ics anyway
13 months here too. Phone was doing fine, but had some nicks and scratches, but started to get the phantom touch issue. Bought an empty housing here for $45, swapped in the mother board, and now it looks and feels like a new phone. I am extremely happy with it, and will not use my free upgrade on anything right now until something more exciting comes out. The SG3 is the best Sprint phone right now, but not that exciting.
As cool as mobile glasses free 3D is, HTC has stated that this phone sold horribly, but not in the exact words. They already stated that they won't be supporting 3D because of that.
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Aside from the infamous battery life drains this phone is still bad ass compared to most phones today. I used to own an iPhone 3 back a couple years ago but really there ios had not really changed all that much now with ios 5 or 6 or whatever is current. Mind you it was great but I love my evo 3d even more. This baby is enhanced to the very limits it will allow with everything tweaked out. I can play most n64 games smooth as hell. PlayStation even better. I wouldn't even think about trading out my evo until they come out with a quad-core evo.
For those of you who have had the phone for the full run since the Verizon release date, how have your opinions improved, worsened, or remained the same about the galaxy s4?
I have had the phone for almost a month now and been through a few roms and have been pleased for the most part. I have gripes with the keyboard and the way the camera is great sometimes and totally worse at others.
I'd say after this long, I am happy with my purchase, but not so happy to the point where I'm not looking at upcoming phones later this year as a possible replacement.
Thoughts after two months?
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I came from an S3 so I wasn't expecting a whole new experience but I love my S4. The screen is amazing and it's snappy as hell. No lag. I got the 32 GB one and the fastest 64 GB SD card I could find. Unfortunately I got the update so no rom flashing for me. Oh well, I love it the way it is. I was going to wait for the HTC One but I'm happy with my purchase. I also get way better signal too. When I had my S3 I would always get 3G at work but I always have 4G on my S4. My average battery life is 18H, 49M according to GSAM.
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I love my GS4. its perfect for me. Does more then i need. If there was no root i would have been happy with it the way it was but with root and CleanROM installed, i basicly can't run it out of juice in a day, besides, charging is soooo fast anyway. I was also one that never had lag even on stock unrooted so with what i have now being rooted, its even snappier then it was originally. The phone is a beast. Signal is always strong screen is amazing and its the perfect screen size.
Honestly it is an amazing device.. I had it on clean rom for weeks and loved it.. just flashed CM10.1... I am blown away by the lightning fast speed.
I had the s3 as well before this. I've had mine since launch day and love it. I do have typing issues with the keyboard sometimes. Guess I sbould look for a good replacement. I wish it had more haptic feedback though. Doesnt hardly feel like im typing on a touch screen, it's too smooth to the touch. I had htc phones before this and rooting this s4 was 50 times easier.
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I had the s3 as well before this. I've had mine since launch day and love it. I do have typing issues with the keyboard sometimes. Guess I sbould look for a good replacement. I wish it had more haptic feedback though. Doesnt hardly feel like im typing on a touch screen, it's too smooth to the touch. I had htc phones before this and rooting this s4 was 50 times easier.
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I recommend SwiftKey keyboard. It's predicting is amazing and creepy at the same time.
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I recommend SwiftKey keyboard. It's predicting is amazing and creepy at the same time.
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Does swiftkey let you use the Google speech engine for voice to text? I have Swype+Dragon and I find the Google engine better in understanding my accent
I came from a droidx to the s4 so i am just amazed at what this phone can do. I am new to ROMs also so i am messing with this phone all day long.....
Coming from a locked down bionic, the lokid S4 is like a wet dream. ... Although, when comparing radios/signal reception, moto dominates Samsung. ..
Also Came from a locked down Bionic. After the JB upgrade that phone turned into hot garbage. The S4 is light years better!!!
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Does swiftkey let you use the Google speech engine for voice to text? I have Swype+Dragon and I find the Google engine better in understanding my accent
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Yea it lets you use Google voice to text. SwiftKey also has SwiftKey Flow which is like Swype. SwiftKey has the best predictions of all keywords I've tried because it constantly learns what you type. It looks at your Facebook posts, Google posts and by past texts if you authorize it.
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I came from a 32gb S3 (white) to a 32gb S4 (black).
For me, it's slightly faster, the screen is noticeably better and the battery life (which was already excellent on my s3) is slightly better.
I actually like the "flat" feel of the edges compared to the S3. The camera is phenomenal.
Overall, it's a nice evolutionary step up.
Love it
Download Jelly Bean Keyboard from the dev VLLWP. It fixed every issue I had with the keyboard and more. It's free and there is little to no reason to get the paid version.
After fixing the keyboard, I have zero complaints about the phone. My battery life suffered after the update a bit but now seems to be back to normal which for this phone means I can go two days of light use with my settings the way the are before I plug it in. The only thing I have noticed is that my battery gets eaten up if I am using runkeeper and listening to music. I think it is the combo of GPS and headphones. I'll find a fix eventually. REALLY looking forward to android 5.0 on it this Fall!
I like it a lot more now that the GPS glitches in CM10.1 were resolved.
Disclaimer: I came from a Galaxy Nexus.
Waiting to see how solid the post bootloader lockdown ROMs are. The devs will eventually backport everything that does not require a firmware upgrade. But they will effectively be a port-rebase hybrid since we will not be able to run the stock ROM anymore. 4.3 will be the big test. If the moto x is unlocked like a sort of nexus device, swappa here I come.
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Should I go S4?
Hey guys, it's been a while for me since I've last posted here. Pretty much I'm curious if I should buy the S4? I obviously want the latest and greatest but at the same token, i don't want TouchWiz. It would seem the answer is to just root and flash CyanogenMod but now I'm curious if Cyanogen allows for all features, like 4g & WiFi and full camera features like 1080p recording, to be used without problem. I remember, with my original EVO 4G, I mostly ran Cyanogen but 4g didn't work for a long time and there were a couple of other things that were a problem like 1080p video recording.
Hopefully you get a sense of my question: Can I buy the S4, flash CyanogenMod and use all features of the phone? (I know the eyeball and wave sensors most likely won't work...)
Side note: I got pretty turned off to Android with the purchase of the EVO 3D (my fault, I know). So turned off in fact that the EVO 3D no longer looks like a phone. I am soo tempted to just go iPhone so I don't have to worry about this stuff anymore... I just want ANDROID or bust!
I came from the gnex. Absolutely love this thing. Obviously battery life is 10 times better. I'm in casinos all the time and I almost always have 4g.
My biggest gripe is the lack of development, not that it's the phone's fault
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generalExpert said:
Hey guys, it's been a while for me since I've last posted here. Pretty much I'm curious if I should buy the S4? I obviously want the latest and greatest but at the same token, i don't want TouchWiz. It would seem the answer is to just root and flash CyanogenMod but now I'm curious if Cyanogen allows for all features, like 4g & WiFi and full camera features like 1080p recording, to be used without problem. I remember, with my original EVO 4G, I mostly ran Cyanogen but 4g didn't work for a long time and there were a couple of other things that were a problem like 1080p video recording.
Hopefully you get a sense of my question: Can I buy the S4, flash CyanogenMod and use all features of the phone? (I know the eyeball and wave sensors most likely won't work...)
Side note: I got pretty turned off to Android with the purchase of the EVO 3D (my fault, I know). So turned off in fact that the EVO 3D no longer looks like a phone. I am soo tempted to just go iPhone so I don't have to worry about this stuff anymore... I just want ANDROID or bust!
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I also got the 3d. I actually took my gnex back from the wife when I got iy
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I'm curious how you mean lack of development? You have CleanROM (stopped at 1.6.5) HyberDrive, Slim Beans, Carbon, CM10.1, Liquid Smooth, Synergy, Eclipse, Google Edition port, Chameleon, PAC-man and a few others im not thinking of im sure.
I can't see a lack of development.
I am coming from the bionic. I actually liked the bionic. I love my s4 except the new update puts a huge damper on things. I was fortunate to have root still and twrp. I am running brands me7 ota so I don't have wi-fi. Once that is fixed it will be perfect for me. I so miss Motorola skin. This is my first Samsung.
Anyone having a problem with screen burn in?
Hey, so I was at best buy the other day looking at the S4 and noticed they all had various degrees of screen burn in. Now, I know these devices are on all day long but I'm curious, do any of you, under normal use, have this problem? There were numbers burnt into the screen from the clock and the top info bar...