Hi,
I've rooted using one-click but haven't unlocked the bootloader or flashed a recovery. I've always been happy with rooted stock roms on my OG EVO and so far I think the same will be true with the EVO LTE.
But how will we install updates? Can I just take OTA updates when they come out and still keep root or will it be more involved than that?
Thanks.
If you stay on a stock Rom you should have problem getting OTA. Only thing is it may break root and you'll have to reroot.
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Okay, thanks.
Will the same root method continue to work or will we have to chase a new way to root with each OTA update?
Throckmorton said:
Okay, thanks.
Will the same root method continue to work or will we have to chase a new way to root with each OTA update?
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You may be able to protect root. You should download a program called 'OTA Rootkeeper'. When you open the app you can hit 'Protect Root'. Then when you find out there is an update you can go back to the app and temporaily un-root. Update the phone, then go back to the app and restore root.
Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
Thanks!
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Hi
I checked my razr in the morning and there was an update available. So I clicked yes. The phone rebooted with no error. But now when I open titanium backup it says that I need root access. Did updating my phone get rid of my rooted access? I opened superuser and there was no message saying I need root access. Should I reroot my phone? If I do should I unroot first and root it again?
Yep, updates will usually break root access. You can re-root with the new motofail exploit. In future, check out an app called OTA Rootkeeper to save you the trouble.
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Any luck yet?
Same thing happen to me. Just got the Razr Maxx yesterday and rooted as soon as I got home. Woke up, phone updated and broke root. Tried re-rooting but not successful. Guess I need another root tool. Let me know if you have any luck.
Thanks my dude.
TDB
T.D.B said:
Same thing happen to me. Just got the Razr Maxx yesterday and rooted as soon as I got home. Woke up, phone updated and broke root. Tried re-rooting but not successful. Guess I need another root tool. Let me know if you have any luck.
Thanks my dude.
TDB
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try motofail it should work. i updated then re-rooted with it.
jonnyth said:
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I checked my razr in the morning and there was an update available. So I clicked yes. The phone rebooted with no error. But now when I open titanium backup it says that I need root access. Did updating my phone get rid of my rooted access? I opened superuser and there was no message saying I need root access. Should I reroot my phone? If I do should I unroot first and root it again?
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Use this to re-root ur phone: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22441336
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Am I not doing something right because I can't get into CWM? I'm rooted of course and used Rom Manager to install CWM. While in RM I hit Reboot into Recovery but my system just reboots like normal.
Do I have to be unlocked for CWM to work? If not what is the trick I'm missing?
Sorry if this has been asked and answered but I couldn't find it.
Thanks,
fasthair
fasthair said:
Am I not doing something right because I can't get into CWM? I'm rooted of course and used Rom Manager to install CWM. While in RM I hit Reboot into Recovery but my system just reboots like normal.
Do I have to be unlocked for CWM to work? If not what is the trick I'm missing?
Sorry if this has been asked and answered but I couldn't find it.
Thanks,
fasthair
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You have to be unlocked!!!
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Ugh... I was afraid you were going to say that Not sure I want to do that yet.
Thanks for the reply.
fasthair
Swiftks said:
You have to be unlocked!!!
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I used vipermod. So I thought I was rooted and unlocked? Maybe its this .21 update that's messing it up for me. I get the same issue
justavillain said:
I used vipermod. So I thought I was rooted and unlocked? Maybe its this .21 update that's messing it up for me. I get the same issue
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Vipermod is just root. To unlock you have to download the unloker from Asus. Once you do that and activate the unlocker you can't lock it back up and void the warranty for good. I'm surprised at that since CWM works fine on my DroidX and it's bootloader is locked up tighter than this is.
fasthair
Were you rooted before .21? Cuz Viper cant root .21 for now, it may look like it did but when you to use app like Titanium backup it will show if your not
Blackwidowman said:
Were you rooted before .21? Cuz Viper cant root .21 for now, it may look like it did but when you to use app like Titanium backup it will show if your not
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I tried yesterday, flash .21, motley kernel v2.1, use viper to root without any problem. But today, reflash room, google play down, I can't get OTA rootkeeper, thereforce not be able to root my device again.
does anybody have copy of OTA root keeper and Rom manager? please share.
So I just bought a Sprint SIII, and avoided the OTA like any tinkerer would. I flashed CWM, and rooted successfully, but I don't know what to do with the OTA. As this is a shared device, the other user is likely to install the update. Will we lose root after the update? There's been a lot of talk of updates here and all the searching still hasn't gotten me the info I need. Can a fellow get a hand? If it takes root, will OTA root keeper work? Can I just re-do the entire process using the toolkit and the AIO option?
You can't update with the OTA if you're rooted by going into Settings, so you should be okay.
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Jamesyboy said:
So I just bought a Sprint SIII, and avoided the OTA like any tinkerer would. I flashed CWM, and rooted successfully, but I don't know what to do with the OTA. As this is a shared device, the other user is likely to install the update. Will we lose root after the update? There's been a lot of talk of updates here and all the searching still hasn't gotten me the info I need. Can a fellow get a hand? If it takes root, will OTA root keeper work? Can I just re-do the entire process using the toolkit and the AIO option?
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i was on LF9 then rooted it and flashed CWM so yes you can update or just flash this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1747560 it will update you to LF9
EDIT: it very well could lose root but yes it can be regained
jamcar said:
i was on LF9 then rooted it and flashed CWM so yes you can update or just flash this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1747560 it will update you to LF9
EDIT: it very well could lose root but yes it can be regained
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So it won't touch CWM
Edit: The notification was there before we rooted, which is why, I imagine we still got it.
Clicked thanky.
Total confusion. So I have to apply the update and reroot in CWM...then the update will rewrite the stock recovery, and I reflash CWM...say, with the toolkit?
Jamesyboy said:
So it won't touch CWM
Edit: The notification was there before we rooted, which is why, I imagine we still got it.
Clicked thanky.
Total confusion. So I have to apply the update and reroot in CWM...then the update will rewrite the stock recovery, and I reflash CWM...say, with the toolkit?
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Yes pretty much. If you apply the update on the stock rooted ROM you will loose CWM recovery , but you can get it back by using ODIN or the toolbox to guide you through it
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My participation in this forum saved my ars on some weird behavior my rooted x2 had been exhibiting lately. update: Nandroid backup saved me. Now, after a few days my phone is bugging me to OTA upgrade to 2.3.4. I see that this gingerbread has considerable benefit on ye ole ROM front.
Can someone help me out with a step-by-step upgrade on my rooted device? Do I need to unroot first? I have to admit to an unroot prior to my problems. Something with an app I need to get upgrade. Thanks in advance for the help.
SoCoolAZ said:
My participation in this forum saved my ars on some weird behavior my rooted x2 had been exhibiting lately. update: Nandroid backup saved me. Now, after a few days my phone is bugging me to OTA upgrade to 2.3.4. I see that this gingerbread has considerable benefit on ye ole ROM front.
Can someone help me out with a step-by-step upgrade on my rooted device? Do I need to unroot first? I have to admit to an unroot prior to my problems. Something with an app I need to get upgrade. Thanks in advance for the help.
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If you want to apply the ota, grab ota rootkeeper from the market. Open the app, save root, then go to town updating. No need to unroot. Once updated, open the app again and hit restore root, as the ota will remove root.
That's pretty much it. As it stands that is the only way to get root on the latest ota so if for some reason you run into an issue and lose root, you will have to sbf back to 2.3.4.
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SoCoolAZ said:
My participation in this forum saved my ars on some weird behavior my rooted x2 had been exhibiting lately. update: Nandroid backup saved me. Now, after a few days my phone is bugging me to OTA upgrade to 2.3.4. I see that this gingerbread has considerable benefit on ye ole ROM front.
Can someone help me out with a step-by-step upgrade on my rooted device? Do I need to unroot first? I have to admit to an unroot prior to my problems. Something with an app I need to get upgrade. Thanks in advance for the help.
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I'm sorry but are you on pre 2.3.4 on your X2? If so why haven't you had to update before now? Just curious.
SoCoolAZ said:
My participation in this forum saved my ars on some weird behavior my rooted x2 had been exhibiting lately. update: Nandroid backup saved me. Now, after a few days my phone is bugging me to OTA upgrade to 2.3.4. I see that this gingerbread has considerable benefit on ye ole ROM front.
Can someone help me out with a step-by-step upgrade on my rooted device? Do I need to unroot first? I have to admit to an unroot prior to my problems. Something with an app I need to get upgrade. Thanks in advance for the help.
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I made this thread just for cases like this.
Although if you search (when working of course lol) there's tons of info on this I just compiled it together
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1757854
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So i am trying to run the update to no success. It goes into shut fown mode, comes back to a box with an arrow pointing to the android guy, it gets 20% or so and the box turns to a explanation point. X2 reboots to home screen, update failed. Tried both plugged to power and unplugged to same affect.
Cant find pete root tools but installed rom manager and rootkeeper. My root is intact and stable...i just cant get it to frickin' update from 2.3.3 .
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SoCoolAZ said:
So i am trying to run the update to no success. It goes into shut fown mode, comes back to a box with an arrow pointing to the android guy, it gets 20% or so and the box turns to a explanation point. X2 reboots to home screen, update failed. Tried both plugged to power and unplugged to same affect.
Cant find pete root tools but installed rom manager and rootkeeper. My root is intact and stable...i just cant get it to frickin' update from 2.3.3 .
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Have you modified the system
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SoCoolAZ said:
So i am trying to run the update to no success. It goes into shut fown mode, comes back to a box with an arrow pointing to the android guy, it gets 20% or so and the box turns to a explanation point. X2 reboots to home screen, update failed. Tried both plugged to power and unplugged to same affect.
Cant find pete root tools but installed rom manager and rootkeeper. My root is intact and stable...i just cant get it to frickin' update from 2.3.3 .
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For updating to the latest release you can't have changed any of the system files (ie frozen), and if you are rooted it's best to do a temp unroot (with a Voodoo backup of course) and make sure you boot into the Stock Recovery and attempt to flash that way. Should go without saying that you have to be on the stock rom.
GL!
SlimMan said:
For updating to the latest release you can't have changed any of the system files (ie frozen), and if you are rooted it's best to do a temp unroot (with a Voodoo backup of course) and make sure you boot into the Stock Recovery and attempt to flash that way. Should go without saying that you have to be on the stock rom.
GL!
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Slim, i have ignored the OTA upgrade notification for 9 months. If its not broken, dont fix it theory. I had tweaked the phone with root only so that i could barnacle my tablet to the internet. Since i just saw how easily i recovered my phone back to my last nandroid backup, i figured i would try to upgrade and ROM this thing as it seems ive gotten it this far. Can someone link me to an easy to follow, step by step on "flashing stock recovery mode"? I can unfreeze programs with titanium backup and then unroot with ota rootkeeper. Just lrt me know how to stock recover, ie: phone plugged in? Unzipped file locations? External or internal sd card? I appreciate the help.
if update is failing
try unrooting with rootkeeper (keeps backup) like slimman suggested
if that doesn't work it's time to flash 2.3.4 sbf
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1317707
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a little surprised, that you made it 9 months and phone didn't try to install overnight after several notices
I know that has happened with other moto phones like D2 and D2G
Guys root has nothing to do with not being able to receive ota.
Nothing.
Lol
It sounds to me like you need to sbf back 2.3.4
Make sure your phone is fully charged.
Do you have usb debugging enabled?
Forget about guessing games, sbf back to 2.3.4.
Root your phone via Pete's. Do not use zerg.
Install recovery
Install superuser etc. If you feel the need but Pete's su. Works fine.
Install voodoo rootkeeper.
Make the back up.
Again with these phones root has NOTHING to do with receiving or not receiving ota.
If your ota is borked there's somthing else going on. You must have removed (bad idea) or froze something
Just sbf and follow my instructions again.
Hope that helps.
As I said in my guide, all updates were done with root, and I went from2.3.3>2.3.4>2.3.5
All rooted each time all retained root via rootkeeper.
Hope that helps
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temp unroot hurts nothing, and some reported success, after failed attempts to update
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sd_shadow said:
temp unroot hurts nothing, and some reported success, after failed attempts to update
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Never said it did just saying it doesn't have anything to do with not receiving updates.
What ever works right?
sd_shadow said:
temp unroot hurts nothing, and some reported success, after failed attempts to update
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I have been there, not sure why but it has happen.
freakboy13 said:
Never said it did just saying it doesn't have anything to do with not receiving updates.
What ever works right?
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Agree, was just trying to cover all bases but if the are gonna SBF any ways then your right, just do it and go with it.
Id just sbf and be done with it personally, i dont like otas
cm7dx2
sd_shadow said:
[/COLOR]a little surprised, that you made it 9 months and phone didn't try to install overnight after several notices
I know that has happened with other moto phones like D2 and D2G
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LOL - I ignored it almost daily for the first three months. Okay, unfroze everything and unrooted...still can't get the update. SBF time...I'll keep ya'all posted.
My point is that, the update, can install it's self
At least that is what other user have claimed of other moto phones
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So I downloaded VooDoo Root Keeper and backed up my root. Downloaded the OTA update and let it install. Once the phone rebooted I didn't have root, but I went into VooDoo Root Keeper and clicked Restore root. And Root Checker now report I have ROOT once again...
You have to reboot after restoreing root to get apps to work that require root.
And?
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Lucky, i installed with nothing to backup root.
Even after installing complete stock, then updating it failed... I don't think this update likes my phone very much.
If I remember reading this correctly you have no problem getting root, it's just that you lose access to custom recoveries.. So therefore kind of pointless to update since you can't run custom roms
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From what I read you will lose root with the OTA and not be able to re-root with the current known method. Am I wrong?
jim2029 said:
From what I read you will lose root with the OTA and not be able to re-root with the current known method. Am I wrong?
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nope your right they patched the previous method so if you dont have root and update its gone for a while..
Root without recovery is :thumbdown:
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Dubbsy said:
Root without recovery is :thumbdown:
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I agree the future custom roms will have the parts of the update we want and not the major part we don't. I'll never give up my custom recovery!!
Well I haven't ran any custom roms on this yet... But this is still helpful ad I do run AdAway, Faceniff and WifiKill... which all require Root .
Dubbsy said:
Root without recovery is :thumbdown:
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root without recovery is better than no root...
Not to be a party pooper, but why is this in the development section?
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It seems to have worked!
Following this process I was able to keep my root, have not tried using recovery though.
Use OTA RootKeeper to protect root, take OTA update, restore root using RootKeeper, update binaries using SuperSU. Existing apps that use root still work as expected!
Glad it worked for you too.
Has anyone else achieved this? I'm tempted to do it but obviously concerned as I do not want to lose root. I'm sure not every phone is the same.
Also, does anyone know if the OTA will work if you have frozen apps ( including frozen bloatware)?
sorry for the noob question, I got my 1st android device a couple weeks ago and I'm trying to get up to speed quickly.
I see some people saying they want to unroot to take the VRUAME7 update... and I see others saying they took the update which caused them to loose root privileges. So I'm still trying to determine if I need to (or should) unroot to take the update.
I have the stock ROM, so can I just take the update without unrooting first? If the update succeeds, what are the drawbacks of not unrooting prior to the update?
Note: I do plan to unroot first. this question is mostly just for my understanding.
If you unroot prior to the me7 update you will not be able to get it back. If you keep root with voodoo through the ota you lose custom recovery/ability to rom.
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