So I downloaded VooDoo Root Keeper and backed up my root. Downloaded the OTA update and let it install. Once the phone rebooted I didn't have root, but I went into VooDoo Root Keeper and clicked Restore root. And Root Checker now report I have ROOT once again...
You have to reboot after restoreing root to get apps to work that require root.
And?
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Lucky, i installed with nothing to backup root.
Even after installing complete stock, then updating it failed... I don't think this update likes my phone very much.
If I remember reading this correctly you have no problem getting root, it's just that you lose access to custom recoveries.. So therefore kind of pointless to update since you can't run custom roms
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From what I read you will lose root with the OTA and not be able to re-root with the current known method. Am I wrong?
jim2029 said:
From what I read you will lose root with the OTA and not be able to re-root with the current known method. Am I wrong?
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nope your right they patched the previous method so if you dont have root and update its gone for a while..
Root without recovery is :thumbdown:
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Root without recovery is :thumbdown:
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I agree the future custom roms will have the parts of the update we want and not the major part we don't. I'll never give up my custom recovery!!
Well I haven't ran any custom roms on this yet... But this is still helpful ad I do run AdAway, Faceniff and WifiKill... which all require Root .
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Root without recovery is :thumbdown:
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root without recovery is better than no root...
Not to be a party pooper, but why is this in the development section?
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It seems to have worked!
Following this process I was able to keep my root, have not tried using recovery though.
Use OTA RootKeeper to protect root, take OTA update, restore root using RootKeeper, update binaries using SuperSU. Existing apps that use root still work as expected!
Glad it worked for you too.
Has anyone else achieved this? I'm tempted to do it but obviously concerned as I do not want to lose root. I'm sure not every phone is the same.
Also, does anyone know if the OTA will work if you have frozen apps ( including frozen bloatware)?
sorry for the noob question, I got my 1st android device a couple weeks ago and I'm trying to get up to speed quickly.
I see some people saying they want to unroot to take the VRUAME7 update... and I see others saying they took the update which caused them to loose root privileges. So I'm still trying to determine if I need to (or should) unroot to take the update.
I have the stock ROM, so can I just take the update without unrooting first? If the update succeeds, what are the drawbacks of not unrooting prior to the update?
Note: I do plan to unroot first. this question is mostly just for my understanding.
If you unroot prior to the me7 update you will not be able to get it back. If you keep root with voodoo through the ota you lose custom recovery/ability to rom.
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Hi,
I've rooted using one-click but haven't unlocked the bootloader or flashed a recovery. I've always been happy with rooted stock roms on my OG EVO and so far I think the same will be true with the EVO LTE.
But how will we install updates? Can I just take OTA updates when they come out and still keep root or will it be more involved than that?
Thanks.
If you stay on a stock Rom you should have problem getting OTA. Only thing is it may break root and you'll have to reroot.
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Okay, thanks.
Will the same root method continue to work or will we have to chase a new way to root with each OTA update?
Throckmorton said:
Okay, thanks.
Will the same root method continue to work or will we have to chase a new way to root with each OTA update?
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You may be able to protect root. You should download a program called 'OTA Rootkeeper'. When you open the app you can hit 'Protect Root'. Then when you find out there is an update you can go back to the app and temporaily un-root. Update the phone, then go back to the app and restore root.
Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
Thanks!
So I just bought a Sprint SIII, and avoided the OTA like any tinkerer would. I flashed CWM, and rooted successfully, but I don't know what to do with the OTA. As this is a shared device, the other user is likely to install the update. Will we lose root after the update? There's been a lot of talk of updates here and all the searching still hasn't gotten me the info I need. Can a fellow get a hand? If it takes root, will OTA root keeper work? Can I just re-do the entire process using the toolkit and the AIO option?
You can't update with the OTA if you're rooted by going into Settings, so you should be okay.
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So I just bought a Sprint SIII, and avoided the OTA like any tinkerer would. I flashed CWM, and rooted successfully, but I don't know what to do with the OTA. As this is a shared device, the other user is likely to install the update. Will we lose root after the update? There's been a lot of talk of updates here and all the searching still hasn't gotten me the info I need. Can a fellow get a hand? If it takes root, will OTA root keeper work? Can I just re-do the entire process using the toolkit and the AIO option?
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i was on LF9 then rooted it and flashed CWM so yes you can update or just flash this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1747560 it will update you to LF9
EDIT: it very well could lose root but yes it can be regained
jamcar said:
i was on LF9 then rooted it and flashed CWM so yes you can update or just flash this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1747560 it will update you to LF9
EDIT: it very well could lose root but yes it can be regained
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So it won't touch CWM
Edit: The notification was there before we rooted, which is why, I imagine we still got it.
Clicked thanky.
Total confusion. So I have to apply the update and reroot in CWM...then the update will rewrite the stock recovery, and I reflash CWM...say, with the toolkit?
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So it won't touch CWM
Edit: The notification was there before we rooted, which is why, I imagine we still got it.
Clicked thanky.
Total confusion. So I have to apply the update and reroot in CWM...then the update will rewrite the stock recovery, and I reflash CWM...say, with the toolkit?
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Yes pretty much. If you apply the update on the stock rooted ROM you will loose CWM recovery , but you can get it back by using ODIN or the toolbox to guide you through it
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Not sure if its posted but I have been asked a bit about keeping root. I took the OTA from Verizhon not Kies so I am not sure if that makes up for anything. Anywho, I took the plunge with both Voodoo and SU Pro backing up my root and kept it. I know there are root methods out there for it already so its not horrible if you have lost it. Just letting you know, Voodoo, SU Pro works.,,
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Not sure if its posted but I have been asked a bit about keeping root. I took the OTA from Verizhon not Kies so I am not sure if that makes up for anything. Anywho, I took the plunge with both Voodoo and SU Pro backing up my root and kept it. I know there are root methods out there for it already so its not horrible if you have lost it. Just letting you know, Voodoo, SU Pro works.,,
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Voodoo does work.
I can attest to that. The biggest issue with updates after ME7 is now the knox warranty flag is included in the boot loader.
I see the knox status when I go into download mode and it was not there before.
I'm already rooted so the flag didn't trip.
Be careful with this update, only do it via OTA so that Voodoo can restore root.
If you do it vie Kies or Verizon software, you will lose root *AND* re-rooting may flip the flag.
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Voodoo does work.
I can attest to that. The biggest issue with updates after ME7 is now the knox warranty flag is included in the boot loader.
I see the knox status when I go into download mode and it was not there before.
I'm already rooted so the flag didn't trip.
Be careful with this update, only do it via OTA so that Voodoo can restore root.
If you do it vie Kies or Verizon software, you will lose root *AND* re-rooting may flip the flag.
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Voodoo worked from me from rooted ME7 via OTA update. I got the "Custom" lock symbol on reboot after Voodoo restore, but Triangle Away seems to have corrected that. What is the Knox status? I'm not familiar with that so I don't know how to check that? Could you elaborate?
Reboot into download mode and read the tiny text
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so i tried to use Voodoo and keep my root. took the update and restarted. on boot it goes to download mode and says "could not do normal boot" in red above odin mode. help me get out please.
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Reboot into download mode and read the tiny text
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Thanks. I see the same thing, Knox 0x0.
rossida said:
so i tried to use Voodoo and keep my root. took the update and restarted. on boot it goes to download mode and says "could not do normal boot" in red above odin mode. help me get out please.
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Did you use Kies or just the OTA? As I said in my post I used the OTA from the phone. Kies may be doing something additional to the phone.
Worse case scenario is you will need to reflash ME7/ MI1 from odin and root again using the "root de le vega" method
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2487142
Yeah I still have the "custom" with the unlocked lock but its an easy fix. I just have not bothered yet,
I did the other update
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OTA not Kies.
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did any of you lose your wifi tether?
I just got the notification for the update but did not download Su pro or voodoo prior to. Now they error out while trying to download. Is it because of the update lurking?
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did any of you lose your wifi tether?
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No still working
mattamous said:
I just got the notification for the update but did not download Su pro or voodoo prior to. Now they error out while trying to download. Is it because of the update lurking?
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DO you have TiBu and freeze/ deleted bloat and stock apps? If that's the case depending on what it was it will error. Like I said I took mine over the phone after checking for it the other day manually. If manual doesn't work Kies will update it when plugging into your PC.
Hopefully if anything was deleted a backup of stock was made and you can reload it. If not, just try unfreezing everything thing. Assuming you are using or have used TiBu.
After unfreezing several Verizon apps and 3 battery pulls, I was able to download and attempt to install the update only to have it fail at install...
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mattamous said:
After unfreezing several Verizon apps and 3 battery pulls, I was able to download and attempt to install the update only to have it fail at install...
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Have you deleted anything not just freeze? If there is a fail on install its usually a self check fail... something it's looking for is missing.
I have the stock ME7 image and could upload it to drop box so you could reflash on odin, LMK. To me it sounds like a app or stock system piece is missing. I've seen OTAs fail on Motorola phones simply because the yahoo app was deleted. I know, it doesn't make sense, but its what the phone self checks before installing the download.
Titanium doesn't sow any apps deleted but I did have Samsung watch set to user app. Adjusted that back and still nothing. Going to try pulling SD card tomorrow and try the update again. Guess we'll see what happens
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Titanium doesn't sow any apps deleted but I did have Samsung watch set to user app. Adjusted that back and still nothing. Going to try pulling SD card tomorrow and try the update again. Guess we'll see what happens
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I still think a clean slate wipe is in order. Other people even on the Root De La Vega report a taking OTA it working and keeping it as well.
Like I said, I froze but never deleted, but if if you deleted the backups stored in TiBu at one point, the deleted app its not going to show in TiBu. Thats why I always make a backup first of the fresh phone and upload it to drop box before even freezing things.
I may end up going that route. Good thing we can backup apps to the moon with tibu! Have u noticed improvements on the new update?
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mattamous said:
I may end up going that route. Good thing we can backup apps to the moon with tibu! Have u noticed improvements on the new update?
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Nothing has caught my eye. Others are reporting the 4G is now operating off another/additional frequency or something like that, l and getting better reception but I have never had a problem where I live.
Did u happen to backup all your apps before rooting? I'm thinking I must have an app that was deleted and not backed up. I found that NFL was that way so installed and changed it to a system app with tibu
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I'm trying to take the ota update but i'm a newb and didn't read about ME7's inability to flash roms and used ROM Manager to flash CWM. I think i need to restore the "stock" recovery in order to take the ota update.
Long time reader, first time poster.
Three questions.
1) For the "root de le vega" method, can I use 'Odin Mobile Pro'?
I don't have a PC so I can't easily use 'Odin' and i'm not sure how 'Odin Mobile Pro' relates to 'Odin'.
Is it the same thing but internal?
2) I have frozen tons of apps.
From my understanding from earlier posts, I need to unfreeze them all or this will fail?
3) After the Mi1 OTA, will my hotspot not work? or my wifi all together?
Thanks in advance
Hello!
My phone (Cherry Mobile Bubble Android 2.3.5) was rooted before through Mobogenie's One Click Root. I don't have any problem my apps gaining root access. But i can't do software update, so i thought that's because of being rooted. So I did permanent root at SuperSU settings, and I have successfully updated my phone. But when I rooted my phone again, I can't gain root access through SuperSu. It always shows "Installation failed". I do have an update zip file on my sd cards root. But to no avail.
Please help. I'm noob regarding on this.
You cant just install SuperSU and expect it to work. You need to use your 1 click tool again. Or another full rooting method.
When you unrooted the binaries that was root were deleted.
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In addition, I already did uninstalling and re-installing superSU. And I have also tried to use Superuser or any other superuser app, but nothing happens. I already did a factory reset, but still no change.
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ajster1989 said:
You cant just install SuperSU and expect it to work. You need to use your 1 click tool again. Or another full rooting method.
When you unrooted the binaries that was root were deleted.
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Thanks for the reply
I already did that. I've rooted it again through one click root, and it says i am rooted. But SuperSu says, installation failed. While superuser says, it can't gain root access.
I have lost root access before when I updated SuperSu, I can't remember what i did then. But i was able to get back root access.
If you have a custom recovery superSU has the option to flash the correct one manually.
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You cant just install SuperSU and expect it to work. You need to use your 1 click tool again. Or another full rooting method.
When you unrooted the binaries that was root were deleted.
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If you have a custom recovery superSU has the option to flash the correct one manually.
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No, i don't have any custom recovery
Is there other way for me to flash the correct one?
Try Vroot, its another one click root method. I used it on my Note 3 and installed superSU afterwards. One downside is it's chinese, so its hard to read lol.
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Breakdown:
Was rooted with twrp recover running jellywizmj9
Accidently installed ota 4.3 firmware and got stuck in a bootloop
I managed somehow to the other day to install the stock rom that was rooted but then attempted to unlock the bootloader so I could reinstall trwp and custom roms again. This is were things fell apart.
Prior to trying to unlock the bootloader I had the following on the phone (trying to recall exactly from memory) Android version 4.1.1 and baseband vraljb
Using odn3 v3.07
I have flashed the pit file successfully
I have flashed root66_vzw_stock_system.tar.md5 successfully
---- still locked on boot screen
VRALJB fails in sboot.in
And WAMC3 says its unsupported version
In my oden mode the screen says:
Product name: sch-i605
Custom binary downloads: no
Current binary: Samsung official
System status: custom
Know warranty void: 0
RP swrev: A2
I have tried removing the sim card and sd card resetting phone I think I tried it all.
Right now I will settle for a functioning phone. Rooted or unrooted, bootloader or not. I just want my phone functioning again.
ok here is a solution that i found on xda. since i downloaded 4.3 i screwed myself until someone comes up with an unlocker for bootloader. I had to install vzwemj9. the phone is now working and is rooted still.
With this being said with the phone being rooted is there any way outside of the bootloader to install custom roms?
d73jester said:
ok here is a solution that i found on xda. since i downloaded 4.3 i screwed myself until someone comes up with an unlocker for bootloader. I had to install vzwemj9. the phone is now working and is rooted still.
With this being said with the phone being rooted is there any way outside of the bootloader to install custom roms?
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If you used ODIN to restore to stock 4.3 MJ9, then I'm confused how you're still rooted. Did you root it with saferoot?
If it's rooted, you should be able to flash custom ROM's with safestrap. Check it this thread on Safestrap..... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51616723
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mattnmag said:
If you used ODIN to restore to stock 4.3 MJ9, then I'm confused how you're still rooted. Did you root it with saferoot?
If it's rooted, you should be able to flash custom ROM's with safestrap. Check it this thread on Safestrap..... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51616723
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the only way that i can tell that i am rooted is that super user is installed. ok after further investigation the program is there but there is no SU binary installed. it says i manually need to reroot. can i use safestrap for that?
d73jester said:
the only way that i can tell that i am rooted is that super user is installed. ok after further investigation the program is there but there is no SU binary installed. it says i manually need to reroot. can i use safestrap for that?
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Yep. You should be able to root 4.3 MJ9 with saferoot. Here's the link to saferoot-- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48392009. If you have data and apps leftover from before you restored, it sounds like everything might not have got wiped with the factory restore. Did you use Droidstyle's guide to restore? You might see if a factory reset from within the settings of the stock ROM would wipe everything.... and you could also try to do another Odin restore.
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Yep. You should be able to root 4.3 MJ9 with saferoot. Here's the link to saferoot-- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48392009. If you have data and apps leftover from before you restored, it sounds like everything might not have got wiped with the factory restore. Did you use Droidstyle's guide to restore? You might see if a factory reset from within the settings of the stock ROM would wipe everything.... and you could also try to do another Odin restore.
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I tried using saferoot to root my note 2 but i got a failed message
"Your kernel is patched!
This device is not supported."
looking at my phone i am running
3.0.31
[email protected] #1
Thur April 10 12:46:30 KST 2014
how can i downgrade my kernel so that i can root my phone?
d73jester said:
I tried using saferoot to root my note 2 but i got a failed message
"Your kernel is patched!
This device is not supported."
looking at my phone i am running
3.0.31
[email protected] #1
Thur April 10 12:46:30 KST 2014
how can i downgrade my kernel so that i can root my phone?
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It sounds like you took the OTA update to the recent 4.3 VRUAND3 build, which doesn't work with saferoot. Others have had success using ODIN to revert back to 4.3 VRUEMJ9. You can use Droidstyle's guide to restore back to factory stock MJ9.... from there, you should be able to use saferoot on MJ9 to get root access.
This thread discusses the issue I am talking about.... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52764286&highlight=sdm#post52764286
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mattnmag said:
It sounds like you took the OTA update to the recent 4.3 VRUAND3 build, which doesn't work with saferoot. Others have had success using ODIN to revert back to 4.3 VRUEMJ9. You can use Droidstyle's guide to restore back to factory stock MJ9.... from there, you should be able to use saferoot on MJ9 to get root access.
This thread discusses the issue I am talking about.... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52764286&highlight=sdm#post52764286
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Thanks,
I will try it this afternoon.... I miss my Root and custom roms.
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Thanks,
I will try it this afternoon.... I miss my Root and custom roms.
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it wirked i have saferoot and superSU installed on my phone. Stupid Verizon locking there bootloader.
Glad to hear that you were able to get it restored back to MJ9 and get it rooted again. :thumbup:
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