Hi,
got a S3 since a few hours and KIES doens´t install on my X64 machine.
It just hangs in the installer.
Any suggestions?
thanks a lot, nearly
Make sure your S3 isn't plugged into your PC at the time. For some reason Kies wouldn't install for me while my S3 was plugged into my computer. Hope this helps...
Yep. Don't use it! Use Odin to flash firmware.
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda premium
sxi200 said:
Yep. Don't use it! Use Odin to flash firmware.
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I just want to sync my contacts with Outlook.
When i jsut plug the phone in , i don´t have all the drivers installed. I used toolbox to install the drivers, but i doubt it worked.
thx, nearly
Hi,
i got my S3 as a Media device now. How can i copy files to it? It doesn´t let me.
nearly
My Kies installation looped on 'Installing hotfix'. I just pressed cancel and it continued the installation. And it works fine afterwards as well.
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda
i unplugged my device wasn't for this android device...but thought this would help
SAMSUNG USB Drivers
You can use the SAMSUNG USB Drivers instead of Kies.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=961956
nearlygod said:
Hi,
got a S3 since a few hours and KIES doens´t install on my X64 machine.
It just hangs in the installer.
Any suggestions?
thanks a lot, nearly
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is because of java - I can't remember which way round it is, but you either need to install it, update or uninstall it to get Kies to go past hotfix. I think its install
It's a common problem!
Related
Ok, got a usb jig and can get into download mode no problem. I can't get phone to be recognized as anything other than an unknown device. Tried the samsung usb drivers as well as the adk drivers. 2 different pc's and 3 different cables. I am running CM7 and I want it back to factory so I can flash something that will allow me to save my family in the event of a fire. Odin never recognizes the phone. Is there someone who has went back to stock from cm7 on a vibrant and could provide me with the proper drivers?
Thank you!
What I did is I downloaded kies mini ince installed on the PC. Plug in the phone and it will download the required drivers for your phone. Once its completed power offthe phone get into download mode and turn on Odin. It should work. Worked for me
Sent from my T959 using xda premium
Device manager right click on (!) Install drivers. Browse my comp...find the driver folder and install. Hope this helps.
sent from my Sensation XD
Dont ever use kies. That **** sucks
sent from my Sensation XD
Yeah, Kies Mini is a very easy and effective method of installing Samsung Drivers. OP, I suggest you try it.
Sent from my SGH-T959 (Samsung Vibrant)
Kies will work just dont use it for updates
sent from my Sensation XD
vabeachfc3s said:
Kies will work just dont use it for updates
sent from my Sensation XD
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Exactly
Sent from my SGH-T959 (Samsung Vibrant)
Hi guys im ready to root my phone. There is just this one more thing to do and that is to install samsung driver for my pc in order for odin to recognize the device. Where can i download samsung drivers? Thanks
Sent from my GT-I9100 using xda premium
droidstarxx said:
Hi guys im ready to root my phone. There is just this one more thing to do and that is to install samsung driver for my pc in order for odin to recognize the device. Where can i download samsung drivers? Thanks
Sent from my GT-I9100 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
From your friend Google. Sorry im out now and don't have a link but im sure you can search.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using xda app-developers app
droidstarxx said:
Hi guys im ready to root my phone. There is just this one more thing to do and that is to install samsung driver for my pc in order for odin to recognize the device. Where can i download samsung drivers? Thanks
Sent from my GT-I9100 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Uninstall all previous drivers, reboot, install these, reboot again, plug phone in.
SAMSUNG USB Drivers for Mobile Phones (x86 & x64) v1.5.6.0: http://www.mediafire.com/?5fy7vwxhrhrpiwj
Edit, I bet 5 people link to this thread here -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=961956/
...
MistahBungle said:
Try this thread. The OP is a few months old & there maybe more up to date drivers available now (have you hooked your phone up to your PC & run Windoze Update ?) but it's a start & only thread I know of on here off the top of my head that has a link to drivers on their own. Most people install Kies to get the drivers.
So...What I'd do is this:-
1) Hook phone up to PC & run Windoze Update & see if it installs drivers. Basically, if your phone & PC can see each other (you get the yellow highlight in ID:COM in Odin or you're able to transfer files to/from your phone/PC), you don't need to do the next two steps.
2) If your phone/PC still can't connect to each other after 1), get Kies from Samsung's website & install it.
3) Still no joy after 2) ? Install the drivers from that thread I linked you to.
If you're running Win7, the drivers normally auto install when you hook your phone up to your PC via USB. Older versions of Windoze might require one/both of the other steps.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes sir. My windows 7 pc can detect my samsung. So does it mean i dont need kies. Also i transferred music and videos into it. So there would be no problem with odin? Thanks thanks thanks
Sent from my GT-I9100 using xda premium
After flashing my phone a few times with different roms my pc running windows 7 64x gave me an error message when my phone was connected saying hardware I'd missing windows could not detect the device plugged in sometimes it works other times it doesnt. It this something to do with kies? Or have I acualy wiped something from the phone by accident I flash over 30 roms n never had an issue with any. Except ressurection remix jelly bean witch the wifi wouldn't turn on but apart from that all good. Any tips?
Sent from my GT-I9100 using xda premium
Clean drivers and reinstall. I had same problem. And be careful i lost my imei last night and recovered it. Because of rom flashinh all the time
Skickat från min GT-I9100 via Tapatalk 2
Jeez that's steep likes. N Yeh I have reinstalled the drivers a few times before even went as far as reinstalling my computer os. It never happens when I'm running a good stable rom strangely enough but when I reverted back to stock GB on the s2 it happens all the time weird likes. Anyways thanks for replying
Sent from my GT-I9100 using xda premium
mikey banner said:
Jeez that's steep likes. N Yeh I have reinstalled the drivers a few times before even went as far as reinstalling my computer os. It never happens when I'm running a good stable rom strangely enough but when I reverted back to stock GB on the s2 it happens all the time weird likes. Anyways thanks for replying
Sent from my GT-I9100 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Could be problem with cable or port but if working on other roms except Gb then the problem may be with ur flashing package
Peace
Hit Thanks & It will Disappear
Sent from S II Running Official ICS 4.0.4 with Siyah 4.1 [/size]
mikey banner said:
Jeez that's steep likes. N Yeh I have reinstalled the drivers a few times before even went as far as reinstalling my computer os. It never happens when I'm running a good stable rom strangely enough but when I reverted back to stock GB on the s2 it happens all the time weird likes. Anyways thanks for replying
Sent from my GT-I9100 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The solution to your problem is here:forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1837434&highlight=hardware+id
Swyped from my Samsung Galaxy SII
I'm having the same problem, and none of the solutions mentioned works for me.
The problem only occurs when the phone is connected to my machine running Windows 7 64-bit. It doesn't happen on another computer running 32-bit Windows 7.
I assume the problems lies with the 64-bit drivers.
Chris in Makati said:
I'm having the same problem, and none of the solutions mentioned works for me.
The problem only occurs when the phone is connected to my machine running Windows 7 64-bit. It doesn't happen on another computer running 32-bit Windows 7.
I assume the problems lies with the 64-bit drivers.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Probably, although i don't have these problems.
Try this:
Uninstall Samsung drivers, reboot pc then reinstall Samsung drivers in compatibility mode.
Swyped from my Samsung Galaxy SII
Jokesy said:
Try this:
Uninstall Samsung drivers, reboot pc then reinstall Samsung drivers in compatibility mode.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the suggestion. I'll give it a try.
To do that would I just uninstall Kies, reboot, and then reinstall Kies using Windows XP Compatibility mode?
Sounds like its completely nothing to do with Samsung/Kies. The problem lies within Windows update I believe.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using xda premium
Chris in Makati said:
Thanks for the suggestion. I'll give it a try.
To do that would I just uninstall Kies, reboot, and then reinstall Kies using Windows XP Compatibility mode?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
1. Uninstall kies (Samsung USB drivers still be left after uninstalling kies)
2. Uninstall all Samsung drivers
3. Reboot pc.
4. Reinstall kies
5. Reboot pc
Done
Swyped from my Samsung Galaxy SII
Jokesy said:
1. Uninstall kies (Samsung USB drivers still be left after uninstalling kies)
2. Uninstall all Samsung drivers
3. Reboot pc.
4. Reinstall kies
5. Reboot pc
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I had already tried that before I posted here - several times in fact. It was the "compatibility mode" you mentioned that I was interested in trying. How do I do that? Is that just a matter of reinstalling Kies in Windows XP compatibility mode?
Yes. Install it in compatibility mode for Vista but Xp.
I know you have tried my steps before but just follow it. Replace install kies with install kies in compatibility mode
Swyped from my Samsung Galaxy SII
Jokesy said:
Yes. Install it in compatibility mode for Vista but Xp.
I know you have tried my steps before but just follow it. Replace install kies with install kies in compatibility mode
Swyped from my Samsung Galaxy SII
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just to update this, I followed the procedure you suggested and reinstalled Kies in Windows Vista (Service Pack 2) Compatibility Mode. After rebooting the same problem happened again.
I then uninstalled Kies and repeated everything again, this time installing and running in Windows XP (Service Pack 3) Compatibility Mode.
That seemed better at first, but now I'm getting the "Hardware Id Missing" balloon come up again and Kies cannot see the phone.
Thanks for your help, but I'm still looking for a solution to this problem if anybody has one.
mikey banner said:
After flashing my phone a few times with different roms my pc running windows 7 64x gave me an error message when my phone was connected saying hardware I'd missing windows could not detect the device plugged in sometimes it works other times it doesnt. It this something to do with kies? Or have I acualy wiped something from the phone by accident I flash over 30 roms n never had an issue with any. Except ressurection remix jelly bean witch the wifi wouldn't turn on but apart from that all good. Any tips?
Sent from my GT-I9100 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I had the same problem I think it's the 64 bit system and samsung's new update of drivers something that help me was
1. When you plug in your device on your phone screen it has a usb symbol at the top pull down the notification bar
2. Press Connected as media device (mtp)
3. Change from media device (mpt) to camera (ptp)
4 . It should work now
hey everyone, so ive have went thru all the threads i can find, done alot of research and have come up short. seems like alot of the users with the Verizon I605 Samsung Note 2 have the same problem, not connecting to their PC's.
-ive restarted both my note 2 and my PC numerous times.
-ive installed/uninstalled/re-installed the official Samsung website device drivers
-tried other USB ports
-tried up to 4 different USB/Mini USB cords
-made sure USB debugging was switched on
-Tried Samsung Kies, come to find out it doesn't support the I605 Note 2
-called Verizon and Samsung directly and both actually offered me a position as a tech after i told them all the things i did to figure it out, because it was way more then they could handle.
i know it has connected before, as i have done it once or twice a few weeks back but now it wont connect, drivers fail to install, and nothing else works. i have also tried every other method mentioned in the other threads. nothing has worked.
is there any fix for this? was it cause by the latest update?
im running 4.1.2/ VRAMC3
and im using Windows 7
please anyone lmk if there is a fix for this. ive exhausted all avenues known to me. thanks in advance.
Happened to me too, it's USB port in your computer. If you have any other computer or laptop try using that.
You can also try wireless connection for file transfer.
Sent from my SPH-L710 using xda premium
Hope you found your answer. If not have this moved. This was posted in the sprint version of the note 2 forums.
Sent from my SPH-L900 using Tapatalk 2
The appropriate forum would probably be more helpful.
Plus, are you getting any error messages? I've had issues with connecting the Sprint GN2. If I install the Samsung Drivers, I get a "Missing Hardware ID" error. I just found it's better not to install drivers. Let Windows install what drivers it can. Not all the drivers will install and will get an error message about device not successfully installed. But enough install that the GN2 will connect so you can move files around for MTP. See a thread I did back in December, linky
Also, you can try out SG Flash Drive Enabler. I've tried it out. It works pretty well. It has quirks, but does allow you to use your SDHC card as a flash drive. You have to use the MTP to access the phone's storage.
oh man...*face palm* sorry about posting in the wrong forum guys, i was about to crash and i didn't even realize. my mad.
MODS: please move this to the correct Forum section at your earliest convenience, thanks :silly:
i have found that airdroid does work for wifi file transfers for such things as pictures, music...etc. but im wanting to root my note 2 and it needs a direct line from the phone to the pc to work.
ill check out those links posted up and see what how it goes. but we still need a fix for this. kinda lame only (well most) the verizon SN2 is having this problem.
flip06 said:
...im wanting to root my note 2 and it needs a direct line from the phone to the pc to work....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You may want to use ToolKit. I believe it's setup for AT&T tool. Uninstall KIES and all the samsung driver on the your PC. Choose to have ToolKit install the drivers. It should get your enough connection for ADB to work and be able to root and install a custom recovery. I had to use it a couple days ago to get a custom recovery back on the GN2 and I was getting the Missing Hardware ID error and still worked.
lovekeiiy said:
You may want to use ToolKit. I believe it's setup for AT&T tool. Uninstall KIES and all the samsung driver on the your PC. Choose to have ToolKit install the drivers. It should get your enough connection for ADB to work and be able to root and install a custom recovery. I had to use it a couple days ago to get a custom recovery back on the GN2 and I was getting the Missing Hardware ID error and still worked.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ive done that very process. Uninstalled kies and installed the toolkit drives. Some reason it would sort of connect but then disconnect. Never stayed on and wasnt able to be picked up as connected on the Odin program.
flip06 said:
Ive done that very process. Uninstalled kies and installed the toolkit drives. Some reason it would sort of connect but then disconnect. Never stayed on and wasnt able to be picked up as connected on the Odin program.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I had a problem in windows 7 where it would connet to Windows update and try to get drivers for everything once they were connected. I turned off windows looking at windows update for drivers, uninstalled the driver for the phone, then installed Samsung's drivers. my phone showed up in windows again. now im able to get to both sd cards.. did you try that?
PuffJr2 said:
I had a problem in windows 7 where it would connet to Windows update and try to get drivers for everything once they were connected. I turned off windows looking at windows update for drivers, uninstalled the driver for the phone, then installed Samsung's drivers. my phone showed up in windows again. now im able to get to both sd cards.. did you try that?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's what I did to fox it as well
Sent from my SCH-I605 using xda app-developers app
PuffJr2 said:
I had a problem in windows 7 where it would connet to Windows update and try to get drivers for everything once they were connected. I turned off windows looking at windows update for drivers, uninstalled the driver for the phone, then installed Samsung's drivers. my phone showed up in windows again. now im able to get to both sd cards.. did you try that?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
where did you go on windows 7 to turn off the above mentioned? the middle part confuses me a bit. so your saying you turned off the windows feature to look for driver updates when the phone is connected via USB?
if you dont mind, please walk me thru your process. thanks in advance.
flip06 said:
where did you go on windows 7 to turn off the above mentioned? the middle part confuses me a bit. so your saying you turned off the windows feature to look for driver updates when the phone is connected via USB?
if you dont mind, please walk me thru your process. thanks in advance.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc730606(v=ws.10).aspx
Sent from my SCH-I605 using XDA Premium HD app
shangrila500 said:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc730606(v=ws.10).aspx
Sent from my SCH-I605 using XDA Premium HD app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I was just abput to refer this link to him. you beat me too it! loljooo
shangrila500 said:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc730606(v=ws.10).aspx
Sent from my SCH-I605 using XDA Premium HD app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
thank you so much for the link. but still no dice. i uninstalled the drivers i had before, did your method, and then downloaded the drivers again from the toolkit. i still dont get a serial number in the toolkit showing the drivers are good to go, and the phone still doesn't connect.
WHAT THE DEUCE?!
flip06 said:
thank you so much for the link. but still no dice. i uninstalled the drivers i had before, did your method, and then downloaded the drivers again from the toolkit. i still dont get a serial number in the toolkit showing the drivers are good to go, and the phone still doesn't connect.
WHAT THE DEUCE?!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Do you have Kies installed? I have to have Kies installed along with the other drivers to use Casual, Odin, or any of the other tools
Sent from my SCH-I605 using XDA Premium HD app
shangrila500 said:
Do you have Kies installed? I have to have Kies installed along with the other drivers to use Casual, Odin, or any of the other tools
Sent from my SCH-I605 using XDA Premium HD app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Kies was un-installed per instuctions on the toolbox. i guess i could try and re-install it and retry everything.
EDIT: just remembered that Kies dosnt support the Verizon Note 2....lame sauce.
Source: https://community.verizonwireless.com/message/966503
i am going to try to download a older driver that was working before and see if that works. its linked near the bottom of the above posted link in one of the replies. ill come back with results.
ok so i downloaded the samsung drivers version 1.4.6.0 and followed the directions on the link i provided above. the drivers installed successfully, but the CASUAL(R515b) No You Verizon! program doesn't seem to see the phone connected to the computer. and just continually loops. sigh...this is getting to get stupid. such a simple task yet its not connecting.
EDIT: the drivers SAY they have installed successfully, but the computer still doesn't recognize the phone is connected. even reads on the phone that the software wasnt found to connect to the computers, and the CASUAL program also tells me that the phone isnt connected....sigh...seriously....WTF.
When you install your driver's on your pc you need to restart your pc...have you tryed that?
Sent from my Enormous note 2
flip06 said:
Kies was un-installed per instuctions on the toolbox. i guess i could try and re-install it and retry everything.
EDIT: just remembered that Kies dosnt support the Verizon Note 2....lame sauce.
Source: https://community.verizonwireless.com/message/966503
i am going to try to download a older driver that was working before and see if that works. its linked near the bottom of the above posted link in one of the replies. ill come back with results.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
While Kies does not officially support the VZW Note 2 it is the only way me and my friends can get our PCs to see our Note 2s, that's the only reason I ask and it is usually par for course. Its what's suggested in these cases if it isn't already installed. It can hurt to give it a shot and see if it helps anything, if not you can just uninstall it again.
Also check out the OP in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2304481
And if that doesn't help you can always try the code in the last post of this page and see if it works:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2033870&page=2
Sent from my SCH-I605 using XDA Premium HD app
mr pnut said:
When you install your driver's on your pc you need to restart your pc...have you tryed that?
Sent from my Enormous note 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yup tried that.
shangrila500 said:
While Kies does not officially support the VZW Note 2 it is the only way me and my friends can get our PCs to see our Note 2s, that's the only reason I ask and it is usually par for course. Its what's suggested in these cases if it isn't already installed. It can hurt to give it a shot and see if it helps anything, if not you can just uninstall it again.
Also check out the OP in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2304481
And if that doesn't help you can always try the code in the last post of this page and see if it works:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2033870&page=2
Sent from my SCH-I605 using XDA Premium HD app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
ive redownloaded it, so ill give it another try. are you saying just have it downloaded and then do nothing with it? or do you somehow get it to connect? i mean just having it as a presents on the computer to have something else connect seems odd to me but hell im down for whatever at this point. ima load it up now and try.
[SOLVED - It was a rubbish usb cable I was using]
Just got a s3 today after selling my htc one x and I want to root. I know hwp to do it but odin wont detect the phone. Tried restarting and using other usb ports but it still doesn't work. Not sure what the problem is.
Any help would be much appreciated. Cheers
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda premium
cleancorekiller said:
Just got a s3 today after selling my htc one x and I want to root. I know hwp to do it but odin wont detect the phone. Tried restarting and using other usb ports but it still doesn't work. Not sure what the problem is.
Any help would be much appreciated. Cheers
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
are you into download mode first of all? if yes, then are the drivers installed on pc after connecting the phone in download mode? did you stop kies in the background? :good:
sriram231092 said:
are you into download mode first of all? if yes, then are the drivers installed on pc after connecting the phone in download mode? did you stop kies in the background? :good:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, yes and no. I used download mode, odin and keis with my old samsung spica so im aware of the school boy errors. Csnt figure this out
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda premium
cleancorekiller said:
Yes, yes and no. I used download mode, odin and keis with my old samsung spica so im aware of the school boy errors. Csnt figure this out
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
no for stopping kies in the background? if yes, then stop it. :good:
sriram231092 said:
no for stopping kies in the background? if yes, then stop it. :good:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I thought keis needed to run for the drivers. Even when I try to connect to keis it won't detect though
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda premium
As @sriram231092 said correctly you have to stop ALL of kies related processes.
The kies is important so your OS will have the required drivers so the device could be recognized.
After installing kies, make sure you do a reboot and then, just before you start ODIN close all the kies related processes.
I also suggest you run ODIN as admin if you're running win 7 or above.
eytan123 said:
As @sriram231092 said correctly you have to stop ALL of kies related processes.
The kies is important so your OS will have the required drivers so the device could be recognized.
After installing kies, make sure you do a reboot and then, just before you start ODIN close all the kies related processes.
I also suggest you run ODIN as admin if you're running win 7 or above.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Cool. Ill try again
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda premium
Still cant get it working
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda premium
so try on another pc. if the problem still persists, that should be some kinda problem with the phone.
-------------------------------------
please let me know if i'm wrong and CLICK thanks if i help
SRIRAM
sent from my GT-I9300 running CM10.1 RC5 by Temasek
hmm, I think it might be the USB cable, it doesn't detect even when I try to use mass storage. Have ordered a new yesterday.
sriram231092 said:
so try on another pc. if the problem still persists, that should be some kinda problem with the phone.
-------------------------------------
please let me know if i'm wrong and CLICK thanks if i help
SRIRAM
sent from my GT-I9300 running CM10.1 RC5 by Temasek
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Does device manager(DM) recognizes your device ? try to uninstall drivers from DM and re-connect your phone.
I also suggest using back door input for your usb.
eytan123 said:
Does device manager(DM) recognizes your device ? try to uninstall drivers from DM and re-connect your phone.
I also suggest using back door input for your usb.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Solved!!
It was the cable that is sh*t, not the phone or the computer.
Cheers guys!
Great news!
Enjoy your soon-to-be-rooted S3
cleancorekiller said:
hmm, I think it might be the USB cable, it doesn't detect even when I try to use mass storage. Have ordered a new yesterday.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Try to restart your pc/laptop? Take out the usb cable, restart windows, stop kies, start odin, plug in usb and it should say added.
Ps: you only needed kies to install your phone drivers, so make sure it has installed the drivers, you can check by normally starting your phone, plug in usb and see a popup msg.
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda app-developers app
eytan123 said:
Great news!
Enjoy your soon-to-be-rooted S3
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Cheers man!
Yeah, I am already loving it. Installed ARHD pretty much straight away.
I'm much preferring this phone to the one x I had, everything right down to the volume of the speaker I think is better.
Well it's great to hear
Actually I have 2 S3 at home the other one is my mom's, I've installed for her SAMMY based and I've got AOSP based kinda having the cake and eat it
eytan123 said:
Well it's great to hear
Actually I have 2 S3 at home the other one is my mom's, I've installed for her SAMMY based and I've got AOSP based kinda having the cake and eat it
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ahh, the best of both worlds! Haha
LOL yeah