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I was just curious, 3.6 looks pretty much the same as 3.0. Little disappointed, I feel that 4.0.3 can't shine through the sense theme. I installed CM9 on my buddy's Sensation and it looks fantastic.
We will only see it if a developer falls from the sky and shines us with it.
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We will only see it if a developer falls from the sky and shines us with it.
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I start praying to the dev gods now!
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Claims that they (HTC, T-Mobile, anyone) don't want to "disrupt" our user experience with 3.0 on the Amaze are BS, IMHO. Problems with Sense 3.0 do NOT need to be continued ... and the enhancements due with Sense 4.0 are, I think, owed us. I bought this phone specifically because an ICS update in 2012 had already been promised.
I want landscape home screens. I want Car Mode restored. I want a better Dock Mode.
If ICS arrives with same ol' Sense overlay, and the problems I've had with three handsets not fixed, I may not even update.
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Claims that they (HTC, T-Mobile, anyone) don't want to "disrupt" our user experience with 3.0 on the Amaze are BS, IMHO. Problems with Sense 3.0 do NOT need to be continued ... and the enhancements due with Sense 4.0 are, I think, owed us. I bought this phone specifically because an ICS update in 2012 had already been promised.
I want landscape home screens. I want Car Mode restored. I want a better Dock Mode.
If ICS arrives with same ol' Sense overlay, and the problems I've had with three handsets not fixed, I may not even update.
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HTC said sense 4 was built for s4/tegra 3.
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HTC said sense 4 was built for s4/tegra 3.
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Everything in the Sensation Forums is possible in our phone
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Everything in the Sensation Forums is possible in our phone
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Yeah but it doesn't seem like we have anybody driven to port Sense 4.0. Tis a shame because it seems like it really improved on a lot of weak points that exist in all current Sense UI versions prior to 4.0.
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Yeah but it doesn't seem like we have anybody driven to port Sense 4.0. Tis a shame because it seems like it really improved on a lot of weak points that exist in all current Sense UI versions prior to 4.0.
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I'm gonna take a crack at it possibly... I just want to get my phone activation straight first. (Tmobile sent me a invalid activation code with my sim card)
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HTC said sense 4 was built for s4/tegra 3.
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hmmm what about the one v, its sporting an s2 and seems to run sense 4.0 fluidly.
then again it doesn't include almost any of the animations but still something to be considered.
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That's even more bull****, industrial strength. The Snapdragon processor in the Amaze is certainly up to to the job. You've probably heard that the AT&T One X will have an S4, which isn't too different from the S3 in the Amaze.
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That's even more bull****, industrial strength. The Snapdragon processor in the Amaze is certainly up to to the job. You've probably heard that the AT&T One X will have an S4, which isn't too different from the S3 in the Amaze.
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S4 not different from s3??????? I'd Google that. It has very significant improvements! Even at the same core # and clock speed.
Well, dev's have successfully ported over some sense ROM's with higher versions of android and Sense Software. Can someone manage to port over Sense 1.0, like the OG EVO has ATM. I am willing to test everything out, it can't be that hard, right?
Sense 1.0 was the original sense on the HTC hero I believe and was android 1.5
Why would you want that?
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Sense 1.0 was the original sense on the HTC hero I believe and was android 1.5
Why would you want that?
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I believe it would be amazingly fast. (after enabling dual cores)
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I believe it would be amazingly fast. (after enabling dual cores)
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You know what? I thought of that a longgg time ago but never said anything cuz I thought I'd get flamed lol...that would be really interesting though I wonder how the battery would be too
I don't believe any version of sense below 3.0 was made for qhd devices. Therefore to port an older version of sense would require a lot of re-sizing and m10 editing I believe. I think someone would have to be really dedicated to the project to put in the time required. That being said, I think sense 2.1 would run extremely well on this phone. The downsides would be that you'd have to run gingerbread, you'd lose some features, and of course the tedious re-sizing of many of the images. The idea is interesting though!
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what about just using an AOSP rom? you get 4.0, NO overlay (so faster), and there are already people working on it.
Sense
What about using other launchers, like GO and others?
IMO a monumental waste of good development time that can be better spent with ICS and soon to be JellyBean. We did everything we could to get rid of it on the Hero as fast as possible. We ported 3.5 and never looked back.
Just my 2 pennies. If someone did put the work into it. Kudos. But I sure am not going to.
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^^hint
Let's go super retro (relatively speaking) and get a home/launcher that's like TouchFLO on the Touch Diamond 2! I thought that was awesome when I had that phone.
Windows Mobile wasn't all bad.
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Kinda agree with nineinch and drachen. If u really want to go that far back just use a senseless Rom. The android 1.5 and sense 1.0 is really such a step back that aosp should give u the speed your looking for and actually look better. And I am a huge sense fan saying this
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Ehh, not that amazing...
I've thought of this before, but in the end it's not really worth it. Sense 4 is really an improved sense 2.1.
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IMO a monumental waste of good development time that can be better spent with ICS and soon to be JellyBean. We did everything we could to get rid of it on the Hero as fast as possible. We ported 3.5 and never looked back.
Just my 2 pennies. If someone did put the work into it. Kudos. But I sure am not going to.
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^^Bring it Trent! ;p
Ok I'm still waiting for the amazing idea to be mention...:banghead:
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Read the op.............
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Read the op.............
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He's being sarcastic ..
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You're basically asking for us to take body and engine off a Ferrari 458 and put them on a Toyota Corolla's chassis.
A) It's not that simple, B) You'd have a horrific time getting it to work and C) It most likely won't be a pleasant experience.
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You're basically asking for us to take body and engine off a Ferrari 458 and put them on a Toyota Corolla's chassis.
A) It's not that simple, B) You'd have a horrific time getting it to work and C) It most likely won't be a pleasant experience.
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Thanks!
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He's being sarcastic ..
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Sarcasm not so easily distinguishable here
Carry on.
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I've thought about pulling down the Donut branch from AOSP and testing it on these modern devices.
It was arguably the fastest Android flavor ever. I remember going to Eclair from Donut and feeling let down by the speed, requiring a faster processor.
Cool idea OP on doing Sense 1.0
I'm genuinely curious if this big kernel source drop is going to be beneficial to us or not. I've heard two sides to the story:
1. "HTC b trollin' man, they drop source and release a new kernel..."
2. Devs can use the old kernel and fix the issues that HTC fixed, along with the other issues AOSP ROMs were having like sound and MMS.
I have no idea what's going on, and I'm curious whether I should expect things to blow up here soon, or if this kernel source has been essentially useless. I'm generally unaware of how long it takes devs to pick apart the kernel code and utilize it. Any input from those with knowledge on this topic would be greatly appreciated.
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I'm genuinely curious if this big kernel source drop is going to be beneficial to us or not. I've heard two sides to the story:
1. "HTC b trollin' man, they drop source and release a new kernel..."
2. Devs can use the old kernel and fix the issues that HTC fixed, along with the other issues AOSP ROMs were having like sound and MMS.
I have no idea what's going on, and I'm curious whether I should expect things to blow up here soon, or if this kernel source has been essentially useless. I'm generally unaware of how long it takes devs to pick apart the kernel code and utilize it. Any input from those with knowledge on this topic would be greatly appreciated.
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Both are correct. It doesn't really help sense based Roms because sense kernels are going to be newer than source.
However, aosp roms can now be fully functional. Aosp is what many people on here care about and are waiting for.
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It's not useless for aosp, the problem is nobody is really working too much on aosp roms. There is a cm and MIUI port but they are a ways off and only so much one person can do..
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It's not useless for aosp, the problem is nobody is really working too much on aosp roms. There is a cm and MIUI port but they are a ways off and only so much one person can do..
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This makes me sad. Maybe the EVO won't have the development I pictured it having after all. I'm not giving up hope for the future, but if you're correct in your assertion, that is saddening.
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This makes me sad. Maybe the EVO won't have the development I pictured it having after all. I'm not giving up hope for the future, but if you're correct in your assertion, that is saddening.
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It still might, but I think I'm still somewhat jaded by the og evo and the support it had. The 3D never really had much, and it's looking like the lte is gonna be around the same.
I do think we'll eventually get some aosp goodness, just isn't hopping like I hoped it would be. I don't mean this as a slight to the devs we do have because they are great, all of them.
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This makes me sad. Maybe the EVO won't have the development I pictured it having after all. I'm not giving up hope for the future, but if you're correct in your assertion, that is saddening.
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It's only been a little over a month since the phone first came out. Give more people time to transition and we should start to see more activity. It isn't that bad so far, but most development is based around Sense because no one wants to wrestle with AOSP. Once they get AOSP stuff finished though, we'll be golden.
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It's only been a little over a month since the phone first came out. Give more people time to transition and we should start to see more activity. It isn't that bad so far, but most development is based around Sense because no one wants to wrestle with AOSP. Once they get AOSP stuff finished though, we'll be golden.
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Yeah, I'm sure that's true. In my head, I figured everyone would be working to get to that point as quick as possible once kernel source was released. Like a giant team project, haha. Instead, it appears that only a select few are tackling it. Even custom kernels seem to be a rare mention. Oh well, I'll continue to enjoy the Sense ROMs as much as I can until someone cracks the AOSP code.
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Yeah, I'm sure that's true. In my head, I figured everyone would be working to get to that point as quick as possible once kernel source was released. Like a giant team project, haha. Instead, it appears that only a select few are tackling it. Even custom kernels seem to be a rare mention. Oh well, I'll continue to enjoy the Sense ROMs as much as I can until someone cracks the AOSP code.
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We just need the support of the big guys. For some reason it feels like most of the big time devs haven't moved on to this phone yet, or went with Samsung instead. I know that Preludedrew is working on JB for our phone, I talked to him about it yesterday on Gtalk. Deck mentioned in IRC that he was working on it as well, I believe.
The kernel developers are hiding so far, probably because we don't have the big guys working for us yet. I'd love to see a Tiamat kernel, even if I'm personally not a fan of custom kernels.
Kernel.org is also down, so that's slowing things up for everyone.
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Kernel.org is also down, so that's slowing things up for everyone.
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I've been seeing this all over, but I can access the site and perform downloads just fine.
There's is (are) custom kernels out
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I'm actually happy with the stock kernel. It has a great balance of performance and battery life.Then again I prefer my kernels to be rock solid, as opposed to cutting edge with random reboots.
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I'm actually happy with the stock kernel. It has a great balance of performance and battery life.Then again I prefer my kernels to be rock solid, as opposed to cutting edge with random reboots.
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I always used custom kernels with EVO 4G and remember zero reboots due to kernel issues . Easy overclocking and underclocking, volume mods, performance increases while still improving battery life... Yes please!
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This makes me sad. Maybe the EVO won't have the development I pictured it having after all. I'm not giving up hope for the future, but if you're correct in your assertion, that is saddening.
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So far my experience with HTC phones have been a very disappointing one. Coming from the OG Epic, all I've kept hearing was how awesome the development for the OG EVO was. So of course when the EVO 3d came out it was my phone of choice over the Epic Touch. That was disappointment number one. Then when the LTE came out, I've noticed all the OG EVO developers and owners was all excited about this phone, so i decided to give HTC another chance. So for I've been more disappointed then at any point. The lack of ROMS, the pitifully performance of sense 4 and HTC's new stance on locking bootloader and sneaky updates with new Hboots was the last straw. What phone will I get next? Im not sure, but it won't be a HTC.
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So far my experience with HTC phones have been a very disappointing one. Coming from the OG Epic, all I've kept hearing was how awesome the development for the OG EVO was. So of course when the EVO 3d came out it was my phone of choice over the Epic Touch. That was disappointment number one. Then when the LTE came out, I've noticed all the OG EVO developers and owners was all excited about this phone, so i decided to give HTC another chance. So for I've been more disappointed then at any point. The lack of ROMS, the pitifully performance of sense 4 and HTC's new stance on locking bootloader and sneaky updates with new Hboots was the last straw. What phone will I get next? Im not sure, but it won't be a HTC.
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We've had plenty of roms for this phone. Development has flown. Idk what your complaining about.
HTC has always locked the bootloader and always updated hboot to close root loopholes. This is nothing new.
This is all par for the course. You should know this having owned the 3d. Settle down my man
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We've had plenty of roms for this phone. Development has flown. Idk what your complaining about.
HTC has always locked the bootloader and always updated hboot to close root loopholes. This is nothing new.
This is all par for the course. You should know this having owned the 3d. Settle down my man
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I know what he means about ROMs... They're all more or less the same so far. Modified stock is great, but not what many are after when they think of development being great.
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We've had plenty of roms for this phone. Development has flown. Idk what your complaining about.
HTC has always locked the bootloader and always updated hboot to close root loopholes. This is nothing new.
This is all par for the course. You should know this having owned the 3d. Settle down my man
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+1 on that. Seems like the other guy isn't to bright seeing as this phone is only a little over a month old
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I know what he means about ROMs... They're all more or less the same so far. Modified stock is great, but not what many are after when they think of development being great.
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And aosp is in the works and has been since shortly after launch. These things take time.
If you check out the aosp threads, they all mention ongoing development.
We JUST got kernel source. Devs have day jobs, they do this in their free time
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And aosp is in the works and has been since shortly after launch. These things take time.
If you check out the aosp threads, they all mention ongoing development.
We JUST got kernel source. Devs have day jobs, they do this in their free time
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Oh I know that, and I no way meant to say the devs aren't doing great work. I just wanted to explain why he said there were not a lot of ROMs right now. I understand that statement, although there is plenty of reason for why that is.
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I rememeber back in the OG Evo days we had a few ports of different versions of Sense. Was wondering if anyone is currently working on any. Asking because just got my replacement 3D from Assurion and updated to ICS & Sense 3.6. And I have to say WOW! It's like a whole different phone and it just reminds me just how much Sense 4 blows! No lag, real multitasking... I can't believe this is the same phone from a year ago. Sense 3.6 on the LTE would be perfect. Sense 4 is the worst creation ever.
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I rememeber back in the OG Evo days we had a few ports of different versions of Sense. Was wondering if anyone is currently working on any. Asking because just got my replacement 3D from Assurion and updated to ICS & Sense 3.6. And I have to say WOW! It's like a whole different phone and it just reminds me just how much Sense 4 blows! No lag, real multitasking... I can't believe this is the same phone from a year ago. Sense 3.6 on the LTE would be perfect. Sense 4 is the worst creation ever.
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yeah port Sense 3.6 to the EVO LTE.....ummmmm right.......:cyclops:
u send me ur LTE and keep ur 3D then and well call it a deal. lol
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yeah port Sense 3.6 to the EVO LTE.....ummmmm right.......:cyclops:
u send me ur LTE and keep ur 3D then and well call it a deal. lol
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LOL! But honestly I don't really see any improvements. Looks almost the same but 3.6 runs wayyy smoother and it has "real" multitasking. Not this pitiful excuse that HTC threw into 4. I think 3.6 with our specs would be better. Used to love Sense until this version. Guess its back to Apex and Fancy widgets.
Those sense ports were sense upgrades. Nobody spends time going backwards
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LOL! But honestly I don't really see any improvements. Looks almost the same but 3.6 runs wayyy smoother and it has "real" multitasking. Not this pitiful excuse that HTC threw into 4. I think 3.6 with our specs would be better. Used to love Sense until this version. Guess its back to Apex and Fancy widgets.
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Everything you're saying is just... wrong. 3.6 definitely wouldn't be smoother. 3.6 would not run any better on our specs than Sense 4.0 does.
I can't wait for someone to fix this multitasking so that people can stop *****ing about it. I'm seriously getting sick of it. If you don't like it, find a way to fix it yourself, run AOSP, or get a different phone. Complaining endlessly about how the multitasking isn't perfect isn't doing a damn thing. We know that it's a problem. But it seems like we have a handful of threads every day of people complaining about it. And guess what? It doesn't contribute one bit to fixing it.
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Everything you're saying is just... wrong. 3.6 definitely wouldn't be smoother. 3.6 would not run any better on our specs than Sense 4.0 does.
I can't wait for someone to fix this multitasking so that people can stop *****ing about it. I'm seriously getting sick of it. If you don't like it, find a way to fix it yourself, run AOSP, or get a different phone. Complaining endlessly about how the multitasking isn't perfect isn't doing a damn thing. We know that it's a problem. But it seems like we have a handful of threads every day of people complaining about it. And guess what? It doesn't contribute one bit to fixing it.
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+1 Seriously the people that complain about it daily need to just trade in their EVO's and get an SGS III or an iPhone
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Well in the case of this thread, the OP was using multitasking as a reason to ask whether 3.6 ports were possible. Not just to complain. And honestly, I find it to be a valid argument if the inferior EVO 3D can run 3.6 smoother than our phones run 4.0. That makes no sense!
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Well in the case of this thread, the OP was using multitasking as a reason to ask whether 3.6 ports were possible. Not just to complain. And honestly, I find it to be a valid argument if the inferior EVO 3D can run 3.6 smoother than our phones run 4.0. That makes no sense!
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It doesn't run smoother than 4.0 in our phones.
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It doesn't run smoother than 4.0 in our phones.
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Smoother doesn't just mean flicking the screen back and fourth and watching the pretty animations ...smooth to me means an app behaving like it was meant to, I.e. only having to open it one time . Oh there I go *****ing about the stock product I paid good money for not working as advertised. Thank you CMX team for pulling HTCs slack. Hey HTC, how about send them what they need to fix the camera and my phone will be perfect
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I can't wait for someone to fix this multitasking so that people can stop *****ing about it. I'm seriously getting sick of it. If you don't like it, find a way to fix it yourself, run AOSP, or get a different phone. Complaining endlessly about how the multitasking isn't perfect isn't doing a damn thing. We know that it's a problem. But it seems like we have a handful of threads every day of people complaining about it. And guess what? It doesn't contribute one bit to fixing it.
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THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS.....All kinds of THIS, lol
I said this before in another thread in the Q&A section that suggested the same thing. It would be like buying a PC right now with Windows 7 and eligible for a FREE upgrade to Windows 8 when it releases, but instead wiping it out completely and putting Vista on it.
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It doesn't run smoother than 4.0 in our phones.
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Have you actually played around with a updated 3D running 3.6 & ICS? Didn't think so. I installed the same apps on both phones & have been testing it out for the past few hours & I can say without a doubt that the 3D is wayyyy smother than the LTE running 4. Not just flicking the screen but opening apps and all around performance.
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I said this before in another thread in the Q&A section that suggested the same thing. It would be like buying a PC right now with Windows 7 and eligible for a FREE upgrade to Windows 8 when it releases, but instead wiping it out completely and putting Vista on it.
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I bought a Vista computer soon as it was released and was back on XP within a couple days? Why? Because at that time XP worked wayyyy better than Vista. Your analogy isn't right. Just because something is a upgrade doesn't mean it works better. Now eventually they got the bugs worked out of Vista and it was better but not in the begining. Which is what I am seeing with Sense 4 when compared with 3.6.
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Have you actually played around with a updated 3D running 3.6 & ICS? Didn't think so. I installed the same apps on both phones & have been testing it out for the past few hours & I can say without a doubt that the 3D is wayyyy smother than the LTE running 4. Not just flicking the screen but opening apps and all around performance.
I bought a Vista computer soon as it was released and was back on XP within a couple days? Why? Because at that time XP worked wayyyy better than Vista. Your analogy isn't right. Just because something is a upgrade doesn't mean it works better. Now eventually they got the bugs worked out of Vista and it was better but not in the begining. Which is what I am seeing with Sense 4 when compared with 3.6.
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Sense 3.0->3.6->4.0 is not analogous with Windows XP->Vista->7.... Just saying, who would go back to 3.0 from 3.6?
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Have you actually played around with a updated 3D running 3.6 & ICS? Didn't think so. I installed the same apps on both phones & have been testing it out for the past few hours & I can say without a doubt that the 3D is wayyyy smother than the LTE running 4. Not just flicking the screen but opening apps and all around performance.
I bought a Vista computer soon as it was released and was back on XP within a couple days? Why? Because at that time XP worked wayyyy better than Vista. Your analogy isn't right. Just because something is a upgrade doesn't mean it works better. Now eventually they got the bugs worked out of Vista and it was better but not in the begining. Which is what I am seeing with Sense 4 when compared with 3.6.
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That's why I didn't use Vista to XP as an example. If you have brand new computer right now with Windows 7 on it, and you're getting a free upgrade to Windows 8 when it releases (knowing nothing about problems that may occur), would you really take the computer and run VISTA of all operating systems? No, I wouldn't.
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Sense 3.0->3.6->4.0 is not analogous with Windows XP->Vista->7.... Just saying, who would go back to 3.0 from 3.6?
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Why isnt it? Each was an upgrade from a previous version. I don't know who would go back to 3.0 from 3.6 but I know a whole lot of people who went back to XP from Vista. The bottom line is "IMO" 3.6 runs better on the 3D than our LTE runs 4.0 Not too mention I don't see what if any real improvements 4 brought to table over 3.6. If anything it screwed stuff up. If it was possible I for one would hop back to 3.6 in a flash. You can keep this ram hogging, broken multitasking 4 version.
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Why isnt it? Each was an upgrade from a previous version. I don't know who would go back to 3.0 from 3.6 but I know a whole lot of people who went back to XP from Vista. The bottom line is "IMO" 3.6 runs better on the 3D than our LTE runs 4.0 Not too mention I don't see what if any real improvements 4 brought to table over 3.6. If anything it screwed stuff up. If it was possible I for one would hop back to 3.6 in a flash. You can keep this ram hogging, broken multitasking 4 version.
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Amen
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Someone close this thread because it's really going no where...
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yamaford said:
Smoother doesn't just mean flicking the screen back and fourth and watching the pretty animations ...smooth to me means an app behaving like it was meant to, I.e. only having to open it one time . Oh there I go *****ing about the stock product I paid good money for not working as advertised. Thank you CMX team for pulling HTCs slack. Hey HTC, how about send them what they need to fix the camera and my phone will be perfect
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Well then, smooth to you means differently to what smooth actually means.
And it's not that it's wrong to complain about something that isn't perfect about a phone. But we know that it's a problem. That doesn't mean we have to like it. That doesn't mean that it isn't a bad thing. But complaining about it endlessly serves absolutely no purpose.
"Not working as advertised" is also a misguided statement, as it was never advertised that the phone would be completely perfect and devoid of software errors that can presumably be fixed.
It's the complaining that has to stop. Every single member of this forum is aware of the multitasking issue. It's been discussed to hell and back. It's time to acknowledge that we're all aware of this and either try to find a way to fix it or just shut up about it.
And I find it humorous how 9 out of 10 people here rant and rave about how they don't need stock and the developers here are better than HTC and so on and so forth but they'll still complain about problems that a stock phone has. You have different ways of dealing with this problem and you have the tools to prevent this from happening (for example, AOSP) and yet you still complain. And again, that solves nothing.
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klbjr said:
Have you actually played around with a updated 3D running 3.6 & ICS? Didn't think so. I installed the same apps on both phones & have been testing it out for the past few hours & I can say without a doubt that the 3D is wayyyy smother than the LTE running 4. Not just flicking the screen but opening apps and all around performance.
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Yeah, I have. And I'm saying that you are wrong.
klbjr said:
Have you actually played around with a updated 3D running 3.6 & ICS? Didn't think so. I installed the same apps on both phones & have been testing it out for the past few hours & I can say without a doubt that the 3D is wayyyy smother than the LTE running 4. Not just flicking the screen but opening apps and all around performance.
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I would be a pretty penny that someone on either this site or on Craigslist is willing to trade you an EVO 3D for your EVO 4G LTE if you want to go that route. The fact of the matter is, the developers we have probably aren't going to waste a lot of time (that, in all fairness, will be required) trying to develop a downgraded version of Sense for this phone. Unless you can convince one of the developers that it's a good idea, or pay him/her to make this request possible, you'll need to learn to code it yourself and make it work. The majority of this board is anticipating Android 4.1 with whatever new perks HTC throws in when that update arrives, not about adding a last-gen overlay to a next-gen device.
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I would be a pretty penny that someone on either this site or on Craigslist is willing to trade you an EVO 3D for your EVO 4G LTE if you want to go that route. The fact of the matter is, the developers we have probably aren't going to waste a lot of time (that, in all fairness, will be required) trying to develop a downgraded version of Sense for this phone. Unless you can convince one of the developers that it's a good idea, or pay him/her to make this request possible, you'll need to learn to code it yourself and make it work. The majority of this board is anticipating Android 4.1 with whatever new perks HTC throws in when that update arrives, not about adding a last-gen overlay to a next-gen device.
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Fair enough. That was the original point of the post anyway. Seeing if it was possible to port another version of Sense. Then everyone got up in arms like they personally coded Sense 4 and was somehow offended because it is extremely flawed. Oh and if the HTC perks are anything like what we got with ICS on this phone I wouldn't hold my breath.
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Seems like a big time slow down on developing for this phone.
Is this simply due to the One?
I couldn't imagine dropping another 500 bucks on a phone so far away from my discount time.
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mcwups1 said:
Seems like a big time slow down on developing for this phone.
Is this simply due to the One?
I couldn't imagine dropping another 500 bucks on a phone so far away from my discount time.
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Due simply to the One? No. MeanBean has been dead for a while. Viper appears to have been complete since February. CM10.1 is still in the works. Stock is still being worked on. I'm sure the Sense 5 Port and others aren't just being set aside to never be touched again. I could be wrong about that though.
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Delakit said:
Due simply to the One? No. MeanBean has been dead for a while. Viper appears to have been complete since February. CM10.1 is still in the works. Stock is still being worked on. I'm sure the Sense 5 Port and others aren't just being set aside to never be touched again. I could be wrong about that though.
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Could be wrong but have to agree, sense 5 may take a little while longer to get rolling, but there other roms that just dropped. Im a big supporter of utkaar99's work here. If you like sense try his HatkaLTE or his Rage ROM. If you like AOSP ,take a look at jaimeg's threads. Still some stuff happening here just a little slow right now. As far as the One, its true we're loosing some folks to that forum, but thats how it works here at xda. I mysrlf was going to get a One or the samsung 4 but decided to hold, mainly just to see how long this forum will last. Hope its like the Heroc was, even in low activity it still pushed on. Same with the Evo4G, still hangin in there 3D is the same, still going strong. We may pick up some of theirs in the future hopefully. Just gotta hang tough.
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It isn't like the days of the original evo. I always had a new Rom to play with and so I wait patiently 4 the next big rom release. I refuse to use a Rom that doesn't have full functionalities. I need my phone to just work so I am staying on mean bean until something worthy replaces it. I do love viper Rom as well.
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I know viper is working on something that will allow mods and roms for the one on other carriers to work on the Sprint variant and vice versa. One development is about to explode. That said we still have some quality roms here in lte land. If you have the time, you can learn to develop and theme.
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Delakit said:
Due simply to the One? No. MeanBean has been dead for a while. Viper appears to have been complete since February. CM10.1 is still in the works. Stock is still being worked on. I'm sure the Sense 5 Port and others aren't just being set aside to never be touched again. I could be wrong about that though.
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Good post man.... I would hate to see all development stop for this phone but it won't, it will slow down though.. I think everyone was so used to getting different roms and constant updates to feed the addiction... What they have done is awesome and the part about the roms being complete is true, I can't think of much that can be done with viper, been using it for a while and it's bad ass.. Just debating the One, not sure if I want to jump ship yet, it's fast and smooth, but it's not much better than this in my opinion.
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tonyevo52 said:
Good post man.... I would hate to see all development stop for this phone but it won't, it will slow down though.. I think everyone was so used to getting different roms and constant updates to feed the addiction... What they have done is awesome and the part about the roms being complete is true, I can't think of much that can be done with viper, been using it for a while and it's bad ass.. Just debating the One, not sure if I want to jump ship yet, it's fast and smooth, but it's not much better than this in my opinion.
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Don't forget to hit the thanks button. When this phone came out there were still a lot of developers working on EVO 3D ROM's.
tonyevo52 said:
Good post man.... I would hate to see all development stop for this phone but it won't, it will slow down though.. I think everyone was so used to getting different roms and constant updates to feed the addiction... What they have done is awesome and the part about the roms being complete is true, I can't think of much that can be done with viper, been using it for a while and it's bad ass.. Just debating the One, not sure if I want to jump ship yet, it's fast and smooth, but it's not much better than this in my opinion.
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My husband just got the One (his upgrade from the EVO4G). The only features it has that I wish my 4GLTE had are the dual front speakers (the sound is beautiful!), the IR blaster (maybe not super useful, but can be used for triggering our DSLR), and the international SIM card slot.
The aluminum skin is also beautiful, but it's not going to tempt me to upgrade. It also doesn't have an SD slot, so it wouldn't hold all my MP3s.
I hope development doesn't die on this device. I plan on keeping it for quite a while longer.
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stephiroth said:
My husband just got the One (his upgrade from the EVO4G). The only features it has that I wish my 4GLTE had are the dual front speakers (the sound is beautiful!), the IR blaster (maybe not super useful, but can be used for triggering our DSLR), and the international SIM card slot.
The aluminum skin is also beautiful, but it's not going to tempt me to upgrade. It also doesn't have an SD slot, so it wouldn't hold all my MP3s.
I hope development doesn't die on this device. I plan on keeping it for quite a while longer.
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I'd like to keep it for the 2 years like the ogevo. But I don't know if it will make it.
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I keep wondering the same thing. Got another year to go before my upgrade, and definitely can't afford the one straight up. Was hoping when our sense5 update drops sometime this summer (hopefully) that the current favs like mean, viper, and superjelly would be brought up to date with it, but it doesn't seem that'll happen since those devs have moved on to the one or left HTC all together. Not saying new stuff won't drop then, but for now anything sense will be slow.
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I keep wondering the same thing. Got another year to go before my upgrade, and definitely can't afford the one straight up. Was hoping when our sense5 update drops sometime this summer (hopefully) that the current favs like mean, viper, and superjelly would be brought up to date with it, but it doesn't seem that'll happen since those devs have moved on to the one or left HTC all together. Not saying new stuff won't drop then, but for now anything sense will be slow.
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Actually, it DOES seem like that WILL happen. As I've said earlier that some of the progress on those ROM's have been completed. There's simply no more to do with them which is why there is no update. Just like the OTA from HTC even though they could be doing more.
I think in this new world of quickly progressing smartphones there are a couple of options for xda'ers. One, upgrade yearly to stay with the new device that gets all the attention.
The second option is the progression that this site fosters. Users learn and build their abilities to create by themselves. Many of the past leaders of EvoLTE have left a legacy of development here that can be built upon. Fortunately, the vast majority of the devs around here will gladly allow another person to take over the reigns and continue a build- or even make it thier own creation.
The site was named xdadevelopers. The purpose for the site is to allow users to learn to be developers. All the tools are here.
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Actually, it DOES seem like that WILL happen. As I've said earlier that some of the progress on those ROM's have been completed. There's simply no more to do with them which is why there is no update. Just like the OTA from HTC even though they could be doing more.
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Not saying new stuff won't drop then, but for now anything sense will be slow.
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Something else to consider is that Android 5 (Key Lime) is on the horizon and may be announced at Google I/O in a couple of weeks. A major OS rev often stokes new inspiration for devs and hopefully we'll see ports of Key Lime ROMS to the EVO LTE (e.g. CM, Key Lime based Sense, etc.).
It ain't dead.
Just have to know where to look is all.. not all ROMs get posted on XDA
I'd much rather have more kernel development than rom personally. I'm learning more and more each day the true capability of the hardware and which software elements dampen it's potential. We have a huge hd screen and dual core I could really care less about the One and sense 5. Like someone else said it can't do much more than viper. I'm testing the AOSP waters for now and loving Slim Bean currently.
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It ain't dead.
Just have to know where to look is all.. not all ROMs get posted on XDA
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Damnit man, LOL Beat me to it again bro. ,,,,,,
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NineInchNails said:
It ain't dead.
Just have to know where to look is all.. not all ROMs get posted on XDA
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Mind sending me a PM with some examples?
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Mind sending me a PM with some examples?
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Just look in the development threads. There are still a lot of really great roms still being worked on.
Yes a few have left but many still have this phone and many more will probably pick it up second hand or now that it's becoming really cheap on sprint.
For ask those worried why don't you go and read a few how-tos and start doing your own thing.
I really hate these threads. They always happen and never produce something good. Just lame really.
Naters
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Try themikmik.com nice roms there
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