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So I've been thinking about purchasing a fascinate to use for a while, I want to get the galaxy nexus (like everyone else and their brother) but I'm likely gonna just wait until my upgrade is available in July. I currently have the droid incredible, which I do love, but the fascinate appeals to me due to the hardware (GPU, DAC, SAMOLED) and, possibly, development (part of why I'm here to ask your guys' help/opinions).
I use MIUI currently and would pretty much need to have it on whichever is my next device. I see you guys have MIUI builds and from what I can tell, they are pretty bug-free. Curious to hear if there are any issues that I should know about?
I've heard reports of GPS issues with the fascinate, how is it working for you guys on AOSP roms?
Obviously hacking/modding a Samsung is different than what I'm used to with HTC, but am I correct in assuming that you guys have a lot of options when it comes to tweaking kernels, etc? I guess I'm thinking of things like voodoo sound, and display calibration (things you can't do with HTC phones) but I need to do more reading to figure out what they do and how the work on this device...
I see a lot of references to odin and kies. Are either (or both) necessary for rooting and flashing roms, and are they mac compatible? (Researching this now, google should be able to help me with this)
Since the fascinate's hardware shares similarities with the galaxy nexus, it looks like you guys have one of the most functional ICS roms currently available. With ICS source being released and the similarity to the nexus, do you guys think development will continue to flourish on the fascinate? (At least for another 6-8 months)
Finally, looking around on ebay, it looks like a used fascinate can be had for around $90-$120, does that seem like a fair price?
Thanks in advance for any help, I look forward to hearing your insights and opinions!
Im currently running ics v3 on my fassy and I cant see upgrading my device for a long time. Development is still going fairly strong, people here are very helpful for the most part. I would say its definately worth getting a fascinate if you can score one for a 100 bucks. We also have the most lulz than any other section on xda. I know odin wont work with mac, so I cant help you there...but there are a few threads around here with folks using macs with the fassy. Take some time and read up a bit more...can already tell you have done some lurking. Hope to see ya around here more if you end up getting a i500.o
*oh and gps works really well now with some of the latest rom/kenel combos. On cm7 nighlty 112 w/ glitch kenel I was getting a lock in 10sec & 5ft accuracy. Ics v3 is not quite that good but close.
I can't speak to the price, but the development here is excellent despite the phone's age. We have an excellent selection of both TouchWiz-based ROMs and AOSP MTD ROMs. As for kernels, we have at least 3 in each category between here in XDA and Rootzwiki (many of the AOSP ROMs and kernels can also be downloaded from ROM Manager if you don't want to go to Rootzwiki.
Has anyone seen John Connor?
Thanks and thanks!
I feel like I'm probably a little spoiled already since the dev support behind the incredible is pretty strong, but from what I've seen, there's a lot of active development going on here too. Also, most of the activity in the inc dev section is related to sense roms, which I couldn't be less interested in anyway.
The big thing for me is the ICS development going forward, I just see a lot more happening with the fascinate as opposed to the incredible. Basically, us incredible users aren't going to get a fully functional ICS build until a similar HTC device gets upgraded or Qualcomm updates the drivers for our old hardware (probably not gonna happen). I am skeptical as to how quickly HTC will be upgrading their devices to 4.0, and even when that does happen, it will only be newer models meaning, our devs will have to do some driver/EGL hacking and backporting to get HW acceleration working (as I understand, at least). So bottom line, it's just not looking that great for ICS on the incredible, at least for a while, but since the fascinate's GPU is the same as the galaxy nexus', you already have HW accelerated ICS, which is amazing!
I do have some other things I'm curious about with the fascinate, more so hacking Samsungs in general, but I'm pretty sure some searching should yield results, I don't wanna be asking things that have already been gone over! Thanks again, and I'd love to hear more input/opinions/advice, or if anyone could point me in the direction of some good rooting/ROM FAQs. I've looked around here but some of the stickies are either old or have broken links, still gotta check out the fascinate section at rootz though.
EDIT: droidstyle - just saw your guide over at rootzwiki, awesome.
Welp, after researching it, I went for it. Should be here Friday or Saturday so I'll be seeing you guys around!
Welcome
Has anyone seen John Connor?
and a hearty welcome to you good sir. Seriously I would say that that this is one of the easiest devices to get up and running on custom goodies.
ODIN is absolutlely indespensible and a necessity along with updated Samsung drivers. After that all you need to do is ODIN the appropriate CWM Recovery and flash your Rom of choice
Of course read up first so get the right stuff downloaded but that is the gist of it, couldn't get much simpler lol
"I didn't say that...my Fascinate has a tiny troll inside it."
Hey, thanks guys! Really looking forward to getting my feet wet in the Samsung realm. I'm not seeing many options as far as running Odin on mac (aside from running in a VM, which can be wonky), but fortunately I have access to a windows machine. I'll probably be using the guide droidstyle put up on root wiki for rooting and flashing my first couple rooms, but if anyone is aware of some other good guides, I'd love to check em out.
Heimdall is an open source alternative to odin. Its available in osx, linux, and windows. I personally prefer it.sure to its greater granularity.
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This device is one of the hardest devices to brick also. Odin usually fixes all.. And if you're smoking crack while flashing and find that you have tried to flash ios or wp7 while in your mind jelly state. The fascinate has the unbrickable mod. But really unless your flashing roms for other devices or force feeding it pastrami sandwiches through the battery cover you won't need it
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Haha, that's good to head since I do like to spark myself up a crack rock whilst flashing rooms But really, I'm pretty good with fully reading and following directions so I've never been too worried about a brick but it's nice to know that the phone is resilient like that.
I'm gonna have to do some research on this heimdall tool, sounds like that could be what I need if I don't wanna mess around with drivers and windows nonsense.
Also, it looks like I was wrong about the incredible and ICS, our devs are working on getting HW acceleration fully working as we speak. Oh well, I already ordered the fassy still has some distinct advantages like the DAC, GPU, and screen, things that simply can't be improved on the incredible with software. Only thing I'm a little worried about is the GPS issues that seem to be more hardware related with the galaxy s phones, I'll just have to see how it goes.
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Haha, that's good to head since I do like to spark myself up a crack rock whilst flashing rooms But really, I'm pretty good with fully reading and following directions so I've never been too worried about a brick but it's nice to know that the phone is resilient like that.
I'm gonna have to do some research on this heimdall tool, sounds like that could be what I need if I don't wanna mess around with drivers and windows nonsense.
Also, it looks like I was wrong about the incredible and ICS, our devs are working on getting HW acceleration fully working as we speak. Oh well, I already ordered the fassy still has some distinct advantages like the DAC, GPU, and screen, things that simply can't be improved on the incredible with software. Only thing I'm a little worried about is the GPS issues that seem to be more hardware related with the galaxy s phones, I'll just have to see how it goes.
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You will really like it from the incredible. So much of an upgrade. Its like a mini galaxy nexus (get it?) And its gpu is, however, pleasing.
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Only thing I'm a little worried about is the GPS issues that seem to be more hardware related with the galaxy s phones, I'll just have to see how it goes.
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As far as i can see GPS is only an issue with TouchWiz based Roms, and even then there are "fixes" in place that improve performance.
I've never had an issue on any of the AOSP Roms. Thr first cold lock takes time but after that it is fine. You can also grab an app from the market called GPSAids, it is made specifically for Galaxy S devices and if nothing else is a good way to check satalites in view/in use and such.
"I didn't say that...my Fascinate has a tiny troll inside it."
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You will really like it from the incredible. So much of an upgrade. Its like a mini galaxy nexus (get it?) And its gpu is, however, pleasing.
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I feel like it's sort of a galaxy nexus "lite", which sounds intriguing to me. I'd definitely like to spend a little time with a Samsung device before upgrading to the nexus later on, I'm looking forward to it!
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As far as i can see GPS is only an issue with TouchWiz based Roms, and even then there are "fixes" in place that improve performance.
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Thank you, that is good to know as I don't plan on running anything but AOSP roms anyway. It's just an issue I've seen brought up in multiple reviews, but since they're reviewing stock software, that would make sense.
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I feel like it's sort of a galaxy nexus "lite", which sounds intriguing to me. I'd definitely like to spend a little time with a Samsung device before upgrading to the nexus later on, I'm looking forward to it!
Thank you, that is good to know as I don't plan on running anything but AOSP roms anyway. It's just an issue I've seen brought up in multiple reviews, but since they're reviewing stock software, that would make sense.
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Yes. Jt1134 "changed permissions" for the gps. aosp gps locks in seconds while indoors now..
Can't believe Samsung fails so bad at coding. But hey they keep making bleeding edge phones, and jt1134 keeps buying Samsung. Then Samsung is the only phones I'll be using. Thanks jt
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Great bargain phone
I agree that Jt1134 is doing great thing with this phone, we can't lose with the potential growth that he has already made available.
Don
PS my daughter (almost 16) is ready for ICS and just need the camera to work for it to be perfect, otherwise how can a teenager live without a camera?)
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I agree that Jt1134 is doing great thing with this phone, we can't lose with the potential growth that he has already made available.
Don
PS my daughter (almost 16) is ready for ICS and just need the camera to work for it to be perfect, otherwise how can a teenager live without a camera?)
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The camera has been working on Jt's ICS for awhile now.
neh4pres said:
Yes. Jt1134 "changed permissions" for the gps. aosp gps locks in seconds while indoors now..
Can't believe Samsung fails so bad at coding. But hey they keep making bleeding edge phones, and jt1134 keeps buying Samsung. Then Samsung is the only phones I'll be using. Thanks jt
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My GPS concerns were definitely put to rest after flashing an AOSP rom (MIUI in my case), I'm getting just as good, if not better, GPS performance as I was with my previous device. There are a couple lingering issues: data either going out entirely or being unusably slow, phantom soft button presses, and non-functional BLN.
But all in all, I like this device way more than the incredible, the amount of control you have with voodoo sound/color & voltage control paired with glitch is amazing. And I haven't even gotten around to trying ICS yet!
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My GPS concerns were definitely put to rest after flashing an AOSP rom (MIUI in my case), I'm getting just as good, if not better, GPS performance as I was with my previous device. There are a couple lingering issues: data either going out entirely or being unusably slow, phantom soft button presses, and non-functional BLN.
But all in all, I like this device way more than the incredible, the amount of control you have with voodoo sound/color & voltage control paired with glitch is amazing. And I haven't even gotten around to trying ICS yet!
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Phantom button presses are the norm for this device, I think everyone gets them for the most part. As far as slow data, are you refering to how slow the theme browser is on MIUI or just in general. I know the theme browser is painfully slow but i never had issue with anything else. What modem are you using? On AOSP Roms EC09 seems to be a fan favorite so to speak and has always been the best for me. Also if data drops out toggle airplane mode on then off, should bring it back.
For BLN do you have BLN Control or Blinky installed from the market? It will not work without one of those installed. Blinky is free but I think BLN Control (the paid version) is well worth it since it has more options to fiddle with.
Hope this helps lol
"I didn't say that...my Fascinate has a tiny troll inside it."
I've been on unnamed for a while and cognition before that. I came from Cognition on the Captivate, so it's obvious I prefer a mostly stock ROM. Both of these ROMs are no longer supported though, so gathering opinions on where to go. If anyone suggests something please say why. Thanks
ShoStock is still getting updates.
My favorite is villainrom 3.0 hellraised with the latest version of the siyah kernel
CyanogenMod is pretty nice, its my first non-stock rom. The only thing I miss is the stock Samsung alarm clock. Its worth a try for a day or two at least.
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Why do these stupid threads keep happening? No one can tell you what ROM to run but you. These threads get closed for a reason.
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Why do these stupid threads keep happening? No one can tell you what ROM to run but you. These threads get closed for a reason.
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Are you seriously whining because someone asked for other users OPINIONS on an internet forum? OMG close the thread quick! We cant have people discussing which roms they like!
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Why do these stupid threads keep happening? No one can tell you what ROM to run but you. These threads get closed for a reason.
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These threads are clearly made just to annoy you Miami. They don't really want anyone else opinion.
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These kinds of thread are really a gray area for us.
On one hand, there is nothing wrong wanting to get user's opinions. For somebody who is unsure, getting experience from others about what is good and what is bad can be really useful.
On the other hand, you can't just ask "What is the best". For one, since there are different versions of android builds, no one can just say what the "best" is. For some people, the best can be the most bleeding edge build even with broken functionality. For others, they may value stability the most; and for even more, they may want a build with tons of extra features.
So, with that said - OP: i welcome you to rephrase your question, preferably about some specific ROMs that you might have in mind, as well as what your needs are. Otherwise, i will close this down per board rules..
If you know how to flash roms and you are comfortable with it then just try them. Thats the best advice any of us can really give you. Im on sensation rom and that is still alive and a great rom, but its really up to you. ShoStock is your best bet to stay stock though.
Every quit your *****in'
ANYWAY
I've stuck with ICScrewD and Siyah for the past several months keeping up with the updates and I've been pretty pleased with my battery life and performance. I also switch to Entropy's DD occasionally. It's all stable
Try some various ones out man. Like poster above said if you feel comfortable flashing then it can become trial and error. You'll eventually find the one that suits you
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CyanogenMod is pretty nice, its my first non-stock rom. The only thing I miss is the stock Samsung alarm clock. Its worth a try for a day or two at least.
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Have you tried the Alarm Clock Plus app?
Since its still open.. Illusion-xT is a f'n solid ROM.. Some don't like the font, I love it.. battery life is awesome, smooth all around and developer is active and helpful
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Have you tried the Alarm Clock Plus app?
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Nope but I'll give it a try. Thanks!
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Are you seriously whining because someone asked for other users OPINIONS on an internet forum? OMG close the thread quick! We cant have people discussing which roms they like!
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But we already have a thread with everyone posting what version of Android and what rom they are using. Why do we need another?
SHOstock, is pretty fast and stable, and it still getting updates,, CM7 is awesome but they never fix the issue with the video codecs for our phone so if you have a lot of videos taken with your stock OS you will have to delete those from you SD card.
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But we already have a thread with everyone posting what version of Android and what rom they are using. Why do we need another?
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In the ops defense, the other one appears to be more based on Android version,, however you are correct that people go on to discuss the actual ROM they're running.
As for the people quoting Miami, well maybe they're just growing tired of his condescending posts
Back on topic, currently I'm using turkbey v 32 and like it
Sammy rebuilds or cm7/miu hrmmm cm7/miui k thx =]
UnNamed 1.3.2 for me works great. Went to 2.2.1, but the battery life wasn't as good, i did dig the ICS touches. Does anyone know if flashing the KH7 modem on UnNamed 2.2.1 will fix the wifi drain?
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Why do these stupid threads keep happening? No one can tell you what ROM to run but you. These threads get closed for a reason.
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First and foremost I'm a HUGE Miami Dolphins fan...It's a shame that you're such a facist
Divine_Madcat said:
These kinds of thread are really a gray area for us.
On one hand, there is nothing wrong wanting to get user's opinions. For somebody who is unsure, getting experience from others about what is good and what is bad can be really useful.
On the other hand, you can't just ask "What is the best". For one, since there are different versions of android builds, no one can just say what the "best" is. For some people, the best can be the most bleeding edge build even with broken functionality. For others, they may value stability the most; and for even more, they may want a build with tons of extra features.
So, with that said - OP: i welcome you to rephrase your question, preferably about some specific ROMs that you might have in mind, as well as what your needs are. Otherwise, i will close this down per board rules..
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I apologize if I wasn't clear when I said "I prefer a stock experience". I use BT extensively in my car, so I was looking for a MOSTLY stock ROM with finctionality being a priority, would prefer to keep TW as well. Basically, something along the lines of COGNITION or UNNAMED, but, a ROM that keeps getting updates. I wasn't trying to cause problems, but, I really don't feel like going through the 5000 ROMS for this phone; I didn't think asking other users opinions was that bad. I did post in the GENERAL section. I hope that clears it up, if not, delete if you must.
I have lots of my old unreleased roms stored up and am curious if you guys would like them.
These are the 2.2.1 i9000 releases, with signal fixes and home key haptic feedback.
The ones I haven't done I can get done in about a half hour. In fact, to get back in the swing of things, I have been redeodexing, fixing signal reboot and adding haptic to them one at a time - very helpful as a learning experience for me as my "Chemo Brain" sucked tons of knowledge away and I have to relearn a lot of it.
Anyway, do you guys have any interest in these or any of my unreleased past roms? I don't want to start a new thread if there is no demand for it.
Let me know!
Absolutely!!
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Welcome back jellette. I hope your doing allot better. Sounds like you are. Its good to see you back in the game.
And if anyone its wondering, Jellette made some bad ass roms. If you haven't tried his work I highly recommend it.
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jellette said:
I have lots of my old unreleased roms stored up and am curious if you guys would like them.
These are the 2.2.1 i9000 releases, with signal fixes and home key haptic feedback.
The ones I haven't done I can get done in about a half hour. In fact, to get back in the swing of things, I have been redeodexing, fixing signal reboot and adding haptic to them one at a time - very helpful as a learning experience for me as my "Chemo Brain" sucked tons of knowledge away and I have to relearn a lot of it.
Anyway, do you guys have any interest in these or any of my unreleased past roms? I don't want to start a new thread if there is no demand for it.
Let me know!
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Are they all pretty much the same? 2.2.1 based, differently themed etc. I honestly don't know how much you can change in like 8 ROMS on the same firmware.
If they are, I would just say Make one ROM thats the most stable; and then put the others as themes possibly for that one ROM?
I think you should also move along to ICS as the other devs have done, possibly join one of the devs and work with them rather than creating the same ROM, like there are right now about 8 AOKP Roms, which run the same, have a different kernel.
I'm interested in stock style 2.2 roms. Now that megauploads is gone most of the links in here are dead and we're stuck with ICS roms aren't 100% working or 2.2 roms that are so tweaked they're unreliable at best.
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I'm interested in stock style 2.2 roms. Now that megauploads is gone most of the links in here are dead and we're stuck with ICS roms aren't 100% working or 2.2 roms that are so tweaked they're unreliable at best.
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I suggest you try ICS Euphoria/Passion and ICZen those are the best in my book. no bugs at all.
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I suggest you try ICS Euphoria/Passion and ICZen those are the best in my book. no bugs at all.
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I did and had either problems with bluetooth, gps, mute/unmute, mic problems (which killed my bt headset), or all of them at the same time. They were all pretty bad. I need a phone that 100% works and ICS hasn't offered that yet. When it does I might switch but right now I'm content on near stock 2.2. All out speed isn't worth reliably IMO.
Jellete, i'm interested. I still have your BOJS5 rom on my sdcard. I'm sure people will love your new rom. Thanks
Chemo brain? Where have you been jellette. I thought you just moved on to other devices like our other good old devs. Were you not well?
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Chemo brain? Where have you been jellette. I thought you just moved on to other devices like our other good old devs. Were you not well?
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Yep, I HAD cancer - radiation and chemotherapy seem to have taken care of it though!
jellette said:
Yep, I HAD cancer - radiation and chemotherapy seem to have taken care of it though!
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Cancer effing sucks. But at least you get to talk about it in the PAST tense! That's awesome!
My wife is a survivor - we got into Relay for Life. I'll be thinking of you this June when we relay!
Oh - and my wife still has 'chemo brain' - and her last infusion was in 2002.
I'm looking for a rom that is similar to the Look of MIUI (obviously nothing will be very similar) but maybe something resembles it in some ways. I've recognized that there are 2 tpos of roms, the ones that follow the generic, gingerbread frame, or ICS frame (aokp, unamed, phonebricker, ICSrewed, CM7/9 etc.) and then MIUI, who kinda does their own design. I've been partial to MIUI ever since I laid my hands on it.
Reason why I'm asking for a look-a-like is because I've been running the scottish one for some time (1.11.9) but she's had the no service bug issue for some time now where everytime I attempt to make a call, 80% of the time it'll lose service and it takes like 4 tries or so till my call goes through. Unacceptable. Yet I can't keep myself away from the build. It's just so speedy. Wish I could have a more recent build for my I777 but I can't find one anywhere. I've also tried a million builds for the regular MIUI, 2.2.3 V2 being the most recent one I could find (I believe that's the most recent? I literally searched for hours), but this build also has the same call service drop bug. Can't stand it.
Can anyone help with my situation? Currently running MIUI V4 ICS, and it's sweet and all but it's wrecking my brain with how slow it isss . Anything similar to MIUI or help with a fix or newer version. Mucho appreciated!!!
Btw I'm no noob to flashing, have flashed at least 20 different roms and all, just wondering if there is anything I missed...in terms of what I'm looking for. Cus I hate settling.
Any ics rom with miui launcher.
Look here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1623026
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ACCUSED24 said:
Any ics rom with miui launcher.
Look here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1623026
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Yeah I'm really looking for more than just a launcher though. I'm already aware of the creation of MIUI launcher and that's sweet but it doesn't encompass settings themes and notification draw down etc. I'm not super picky about that but I'd prefer everything to be uniform...so not gonna go with that method.
LewaOS is something i I'd call pretty similar to MIUI. Lilchris has a post of it in ported section.
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Biporch said:
LewaOS is something i I'd call pretty similar to MIUI. Lilchris has a post of it in ported section.
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Hey thanks a lot for the feedback! I knew someone had to have an idea of something with relatively theme intensive design.
In ported themes
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1533897
Closest thing to MIUI? An iPhone.
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LewaOS is something i I'd call pretty similar to MIUI. Lilchris has a post of it in ported section.
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Porting JoyOS soon, hopefully based on ICS.
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In ported themes
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1533897
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Yeahhh but I mentioned how I didn't like how slowww it was
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Closest thing to MIUI? An iPhone.
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Hahah yeah but I don't want that crap.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jB_gs4Adwp4&feature=relmfu
For other reasons too, but I figured these would be funny enough
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thinking i may try JoyOS once ported
Help Needed
You guys know of any other MIUI builds other than WIUI and Galnet, which I'd like a later version of but can't seem to find anywhere. PM me if you have anything past 1.11.9, PLEASEEEEE.
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You guys know of any other MIUI builds other than WIUI and Galnet, which I'd like a later version of but can't seem to find anywhere. PM me if you have anything past 1.1.9, PLEASEEEEE.
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really?
i mean, did you even open your eyes when you went into the dev section?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1521
Pirateghost said:
really?
i mean, did you even open your eyes when you went into the dev section?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1521
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Duddeeeeeeeeee. Just went back through it and found AdyScorpius' version of MIUI. I'd gone through that before but I guess I missed this version. If it's anything like Galnet I'm gonna be soooooo happy. I'm gonna flash it now!! So excited hahah. I'm a speed freak, need my lag free interface, otherwise I get annoyed >.>
Thanks bro! Hope this rom isn't bug ridden. Seems very illegitimately put together, but all the people commend it! We'll see.
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.... Seems very illegitimately put together, but all the people commend it! We'll see.
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LMFAO.....
dude, its MIUI...it was built 'illegitimately' from the get-go...
Lol. If XDA ever gets a bus to drive us around in something tells me its gonna be a short bus.
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LMFAO.....
dude, its MIUI...it was built 'illegitimately' from the get-go...
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Hahah idk, I was reading up on all these bugs that I haven't really heard of in the general MIUI builds. I'm using it though and it's snappy pappy. Except going back from a conversation message, to just the conversation list. It reverts quickly, but the text doesn't load as quick as the transition. Annoyanceeeee lol. Idc though...sorta. Is good though. Is real good. Wondering if it's worth bumpin up to ICS V4 cus I didn't realize RIUI and AdyScorp were making roms like this. Trying to decide whether upgrading is worth the stupid notification swipe or not. So annoying.
VanillaCracker said:
I'm looking for a rom that is similar to the Look of MIUI (obviously nothing will be very similar) but maybe something resembles it in some ways. I've recognized that there are 2 tpos of roms, the ones that follow the generic, gingerbread frame, or ICS frame (aokp, unamed, phonebricker, ICSrewed, CM7/9 etc.) and then MIUI, who kinda does their own design. I've been partial to MIUI ever since I laid my hands on it.
Reason why I'm asking for a look-a-like is because I've been running the scottish one for some time (1.11.9) but she's had the no service bug issue for some time now where everytime I attempt to make a call, 80% of the time it'll lose service and it takes like 4 tries or so till my call goes through. Unacceptable. Yet I can't keep myself away from the build. It's just so speedy. Wish I could have a more recent build for my I777 but I can't find one anywhere. I've also tried a million builds for the regular MIUI, 2.2.3 V2 being the most recent one I could find (I believe that's the most recent? I literally searched for hours), but this build also has the same call service drop bug. Can't stand it.
Can anyone help with my situation? Currently running MIUI V4 ICS, and it's sweet and all but it's wrecking my brain with how slow it isss . Anything similar to MIUI or help with a fix or newer version. Mucho appreciated!!!
Btw I'm no noob to flashing, have flashed at least 20 different roms and all, just wondering if there is anything I missed...in terms of what I'm looking for. Cus I hate settling.
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MIUI sucks because it is so slow and in development. The only thing that is great about it is it's interconnected community and even app. Which is all JUST SHOW if you know how to flash your own ROMs.
If you want speed, battery, and best overall flawlessness I suggest: shostock!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1563747
It's the best. Just needs an android app so I know when it updates.
megamorphg said:
Just needs an android app so I know when it updates.
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An android app like what MIUI has?
megamorphg said:
MIUI sucks because it is so slow and in development. The only thing that is great about it is it's interconnected community and even app. Which is all JUST SHOW if you know how to flash your own ROMs.
If you want speed, battery, and best overall flawlessness I suggest: shostock!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1563747
It's the best. Just needs an android app so I know when it updates.
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I have nothing against all the Samsung Touchwiz based Roms. I just plain don't like em. I have two things that I need personally, and that is speed, and an appealing look/design. Although CM7/CM9 can have a...functional/sophisticated look to them, they aren't quite as unique and sophisticated as the MIUI themes. Namely, CM is all very square and proper, while MIUI seems to be a little more accommodating if you will. I like to speed through things, and I'm particular about the way I do things. For example: when texting someone I like to send a text, then go back to the conversation list, so that when I get a new text I can see who it was from. I used UnNamed rom for a little bit (a month maybe) - and also tried ShoStock because I'd heard a lot about that too. I flashed it, but it basically seemed to be the same thing. Anyway when using unnamed there was obvious lag interface between the message system when I'd press back twice really quick after sending a text (once to close keyboard, once to close keyboard, another to go back to conversation list). MIUI is more smooth in it's transition and seems to have not necesarilly more poignant scirpting but mayhaps faster. I like MIUI's notification bar and status bar. I like how the notifications have a page and I can click my wifi, data, airplane mode, gps, rotation, and brightness all on the same page, without having to swipe left or right to find more. Mostly I'm a fan of the themes of course, since they simply look awesome. If you care so much move to AOKP, it's better than any Samsung Touchwiz Rom I've ever used, for that type of person. I love AOKP, but I can't seem to stand the crude looking toggles/switches, and the damn launcer (all 3 of them). I find app drawers to be very unnecessary (my own personal opinion - plenty of interpretations there). But I'm willing to further discuss this if you want haha. No mean to be insulting but you basically started the engagement
Hey All,
First, and most importantly, I would like to say hello and THANKS to all of the people on this forum and devs who put together and support CFW's. You all do great jobs, and should be proud of your work.
Second, I have not posted here before since my questions were always answered with a search of the forums. This time it is not the case as I will explain.
I have a Galaxy note from Bell and I think it is an awesome piece of hardware (so much so I also bought a Note 10.1). I was quite happy with it for a long time but my patience for touchwiz eventually wore thin. Turning on the phone to make a call or text and having to wait while the phone finishes some phantom background task was incredibly annoying. Why does Samsung make great hardware and then ruin it with bloatware and junk?
This led me to to find a CFW which did not have this issue. I tried several and was blown away by the quality and completeness of these roms. They solved so many problems and did things the way the should have been done in the first place. I was in heaven. There was just one problem...stability. None of them slowed to a crawl and were always blisteringly fast, but the phone would lock up and reboot once every day or 2. This was not acceptable for a phone which is needed for work and emergencies. I would assume that the small number of these phones makes it less likely for the roms to be tested with them to the same extent as for a Note 2 or S3. I have even tried touchwiz-based roms which do not crash, but have the same occasional unresponsiveness of the samsung original.
So here is my question: has anyone found a rom which is STABLE in a real way? When I search I see people who say roms are stable but they never qualify their opinion with crash frequency so it remains a purely relative term. I love this phone and would really love to have a rom like PAC with all of its awesomeness but stability is king for me.
Here is what I have tried, full wipes done before each flash:
Cyanogenmod 10.0, 10.1
PAC rom
Padawan
Blackstar Blackjelly, 2 different versions
Thanks.
Jellybean Sandwich is really fantastic. It's based on ICS, so if you require Jellybean specific features it might not be for you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2356408
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How would one "qualify" their opinion with "crash frequency" if the rom they are using doesn't crash? There are many more roms than the ones you have listed.
Also, it has been my exprience that the 4.3 roms are very stable.
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I also second Jellybean sandwhich. It's great for stability, and since you would like to know to what extent I mean "stable" then this is what I mean...this ROM has NEVER crashed or rebooted on me, and for countless other users. It is an ICS based rom, with added jellybean features. It's a lightweight ROM, with not as many features as say AOKP, but many of those features can be added with "Xposed Mod" if you've ever used it. So you get the "speed" of jellybean, with the absolute stability of ICS. I highly recommend you try it out. People who have had trouble with the ROM (there are very few) have all induced the problems on their own, or probably have faulty hardware. I can vouch that if you wipe clean, and flash correctly everything will work right out of the box, except USB mount (which there is a fix to make it work), and a bug that gives you and "sd card damaged" notification when nothing is really wrong.
EDIT: If you want a fast touchwiz based ROM that is not necessarily Jellybean. I recommend Novena ROM. It's an older ROM but one of the fastest ROMs you can get for our phone. You may have to look on the second page in the development section as it hasn't been updated in months
Go to an ICS rom if you want speed and stability. No matter what anyone on these forums will say, you cannot, cannot, cannot find speed and stability in ANY jb rom. Some may have stability, but lack speed. If you just use them [jb roms] for a while, you can forget that they aren't fast and become accustomed to them, but if you touch an ICS ROM or a newer galaxy phone, you'll quickly be reminded that you're delusional.
both Touchwiz Rom's are stable. they are rocks and will not give you a random reboot. if you have read like you said, than you may have even seen one of several postings in the Padawan tread. if you haven't.......p355-378 is a good read and will lay out some solid fundamental settings which would lead you to nirvana.
many also seem to overlook one 4.2 rom, as even I did for the longest time. Sons of Android or SOA is the ONLY 4.2 rom out there that I got no randoms with and did not need to seek an alternate kernel.
those are just 2 roms. everyone will tell you, every phone is a bit different. finding a rom that is going to satisfy everyone the same. its like voting for a President now and days. you don't really vote for the one you want anymore, its voting for the lesser of two evils. everybody knows, you cant have good without evil.
you are getting some good personal opinions here. it sounds like you know what your looking for, but you have yet to decide as to what you are willing to tolerate. we all tolerate something for the rom that we want. what evil are you willing to tolerate? only you can answer
me........stability is what I seek, and lack of some bells and whistles is what I tolerate. as mentioned previously, I get some of that back with Xposed and keep my stability.
good luck my friend
Honestly, I'm using a stock deodexed/debloated ROM. Works just fine for me.
SkeletonKey, Padawan, JellyBeer, Prophylactic are all also great ones that I personally used a lot.
Your mileage may vary though.
captemo said:
both Touchwiz Rom's are stable. they are rocks and will not give you a random reboot. if you have read like you said, than you may have even seen one of several postings in the Padawan tread. if you haven't.......p355-378 is a good read and will lay out some solid fundamental settings which would lead you to nirvana.
many also seem to overlook one 4.2 rom, as even I did for the longest time. Sons of Android or SOA is the ONLY 4.2 rom out there that I got no randoms with and did not need to seek an alternate kernel.
those are just 2 roms. everyone will tell you, every phone is a bit different. finding a rom that is going to satisfy everyone the same. its like voting for a President now and days. you don't really vote for the one you want anymore, its voting for the lesser of two evils. everybody knows, you cant have good without evil.
you are getting some good personal opinions here. it sounds like you know what your looking for, but you have yet to decide as to what you are willing to tolerate. we all tolerate something for the rom that we want. what evil are you willing to tolerate? only you can answer
me........stability is what I seek, and lack of some bells and whistles is what I tolerate. as mentioned previously, I get some of that back with Xposed and keep my stability.
good luck my friend
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You know Cap, speaking of Sons of Android, you wouldn't happen to have that zip would you? that may be one of the only ROMs I don't seem to have on my computer. would love to give it a reflash.
_INSPIREed said:
You know Cap, speaking of Sons of Android, you wouldn't happen to have that zip would you? that may be one of the only ROMs I don't seem to have on my computer. would love to give it a reflash.
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PM sent my friend
I've been on Revolt for 2 weeks and no crashes. The only 'bug' is that sometimes when you press PWR to activate the phone, the capacitive buttons highlight but the screen stays blank. Press PWR twice (once to turn 'off' and again to turn back on) and you'll see the lock screen.
I was playing with the tweaks a lot, so this 'bug' could just be from something I did. Other than that it's blistering fast compared to Bell stock (yes, I'm on Bell too and feel your pain) and I'd recommend it to anyone.
captemo said:
PM sent my friend
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Could you also send that to me please and thank you?
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Canguy247 said:
Hey All,
First, and most importantly, I would like to say hello and THANKS to all of the people on this forum and devs who put together and support CFW's. You all do great jobs, and should be proud of your work.
Second, I have not posted here before since my questions were always answered with a search of the forums. This time it is not the case as I will explain.
I have a Galaxy note from Bell and I think it is an awesome piece of hardware (so much so I also bought a Note 10.1). I was quite happy with it for a long time but my patience for touchwiz eventually wore thin. Turning on the phone to make a call or text and having to wait while the phone finishes some phantom background task was incredibly annoying. Why does Samsung make great hardware and then ruin it with bloatware and junk?
This led me to to find a CFW which did not have this issue. I tried several and was blown away by the quality and completeness of these roms. They solved so many problems and did things the way the should have been done in the first place. I was in heaven. There was just one problem...stability. None of them slowed to a crawl and were always blisteringly fast, but the phone would lock up and reboot once every day or 2. This was not acceptable for a phone which is needed for work and emergencies. I would assume that the small number of these phones makes it less likely for the roms to be tested with them to the same extent as for a Note 2 or S3. I have even tried touchwiz-based roms which do not crash, but have the same occasional unresponsiveness of the samsung original.
So here is my question: has anyone found a rom which is STABLE in a real way? When I search I see people who say roms are stable but they never qualify their opinion with crash frequency so it remains a purely relative term. I love this phone and would really love to have a rom like PAC with all of its awesomeness but stability is king for me.
Here is what I have tried, full wipes done before each flash:
Cyanogenmod 10.0, 10.1
PAC rom
Padawan
Blackstar Blackjelly, 2 different versions
Thanks.
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Revolt is really good for me , you should this one
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Isn't soa in the development section?
2$HAYNE
shayneflashindaily said:
Isn't soa in the development section?
2$HAYNE
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nah. All of Pt's links are down.
ZacksBuilds said:
Could you also send that to me please and thank you?
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pm sent
Thanks man.
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The current beanstalk is smooth and stable.
There is also a new 4.3 ROM in the Q&A section that has been extremely stable on my phone the past two days. The kernel built into the ROM is a version I beleive of the Cl3Kener kernel and can be OC'd and what not. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2448069
_INSPIREed said:
nah. All of Pt's links are down.
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thanks bro
Really now said:
There is also a new 4.3 ROM in the Q&A section that has been extremely stable on my phone the past two days. The kernel built into the ROM is a version I beleive of the Cl3Kener kernel and can be OC'd and what not. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2448069
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Wasn't so stable on my part....But everyone's phone works in misterous wayssssss
2$HAYNE
I'm going to flash helly right now.
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