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I've noticed that the evo 3d has been scoring lower than the sensation, which is spec'd performance-wise. Exactly the same except for the evo having more ram. So I don't really understand why it would eb scoeing lower
Also if you're here to try and dispute the credibility of benchmarks leave now because that's not the point of this topic.
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Well, the Evo 3D does have the ability to do 3D, so I imagine it will take up some resources, but I have a feeling that the benchmark scores will only get better as HTC and Sprint release updates and fixes for it.
Probably the bloatware
Benchmarks are boo boo! For a benchmark to read correctly the cores need to be ramped up to max for the test. The app does not draw full ramp from the dual cores. Plus they are asynchronous, once we root and have kernel source for added tweeks we will blow tegra away (even with tegra tweeked)!
For the most part synthetic benchmarks are not really useful. How much are they off anyways? I'll bet you'll never notice the difference.
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cordell12 said:
Benchmarks are boo boo! For a benchmark to read correctly the cores need to be ramped up to max for the test. The app does not draw full ramp from the dual cores. Plus they are asynchronous, once we root and have kernel source for added tweeks we will blow tegra away (even with tegra tweeked)!
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pretty much what I came into say. the Nexus S scores don't blow you away before you root either,but once Rooted, it is capable of truly amazing power.
pretty much every review says the Evo 3d feels much faster and much more fluid than the sensation.
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LMAO!
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the processor is an ASYNC and the cores are able to run at different speeds for different task. The programs testing are better suited to your normal SYNC processor which are both always running at full all the time.
The need to write code to take advantage of the ASYNC and its methods to reach max must be included in the programming before they will ever be able to measure the full potential of the ASYNC.
you could say in those test I could garuntee you one processor is running max one is not. if at all. But if it is. its just a little as the program has not told it to run both processors at max if its a ASYNC,
ADD the qHD and the program would need to account for that.
imagine if the screen was amoled or just 800 x 480. this thing would be brutal beast.
but at the end of the day I love HTC phones.
HTC Sense is known to produce low benchmark scores. Once AOSP gets on this baby, it will fly through the irrelevant benchmarks like nothing.
Not only that but benchmarks are known to produce pointless infighting and petty bickering over measures that are not only highly suspect but also not related to actual use...
...or so the old wives tale goes...
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xdmds said:
I've noticed that the evo 3d has been scoring lower than the sensation, which is spec'd performance-wise. Exactly the same except for the evo having more ram. So I don't really understand why it would eb scoeing lower
Also if you're here to try and dispute the credibility of benchmarks leave now because that's not the point of this topic.
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Actually, check out Anandtech's bench of the Evo 3D and Sensation from a couple of weeks ago, and the check out the same bench of those 2 devices when they tested the Droid 3 a couple of days ago.
Comparing the scores, the 3vo scored the same both times. First time it was higher than the Sensation, and second time lower. So somewhere in between, the Sensation got a software update that made it score higher on those benchmarks. I'm guessing we'll see the same kind of improvement with the 3vo in time.
leaving now. Just beating a dead horse here, this has been debated a million times.
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your holding it wrong?
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Yeah he should call up for his free rubber band.
freeza said:
HTC Sense is known to produce low benchmark scores. Once AOSP gets on this baby, it will fly through the irrelevant benchmarks like nothing.
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While I did run asop on my evo no way will an asop rom touch my evo 3d. Sense 3.0 is great and I doubt asop will supoort 3d.
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I hate people who point out benchmarks on a phone... :|
LOL if htc's scrap snapdragon duel core had good benchmarks I bet all of you would be posting about how elite your phone is and how good it does in benchmarks but since it sucks you say benchmarks don't matter. Don't fool yourself benchmarks do matter. Yes quadrant can be tricked by unlocked phones with edits but benchmarks ran on tegra 2 & crap snapdragon using smartbench 2011 (does use both cores) gives realistic performance.
evo 3d
2089 cpu
1648 gpu (lol slower then galaxy s 1)
tegra 2 (stock atrix 2.3.4 with crap motoblur)
2737 cpu
2661 gpu
tegra 2 overclocked
3989 cpu
2900 gpu
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LOL if htc's scrap snapdragon duel core had good benchmarks I bet all of you would be posting about how elite your phone is and how good it does in benchmarks but since it sucks you say benchmarks don't matter. Don't fool yourself benchmarks do matter. Yes quadrant can be tricked by unlocked phones with edits but benchmarks ran on tegra 2 & crap snapdragon using smartbench 2011 (does use both cores) gives realistic performance.
evo 3d
2089 cpu
1648 gpu (lol slower then galaxy s 1)
tegra 2 (stock atrix 2.3.4 with crap motoblur)
2737 cpu
2661 gpu
tegra 2 overclocked
3989 cpu
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Bro its because tegra manages different. Tegra uses both cores to do one single task. While the EVO 3D chip set is asynchronous. This means when you run a benchmark only one core is being processed during that application. The other core is running other processes to keep your EVO lag free and running smoothly. Benchmark is only a number anyway.
Remember this tho forever. benchmarks are like a girl in a bikini, they show a lot but not quite everything.
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So, now we have phones with quad core processors clocked at higher than the transformer 300, are they more powerful than tablets or is there something I'm missing?
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So, now we have phones with quad core processors clocked at higher than the transformer 300, are they more powerful than tablets or is there something I'm missing?
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I am running at 1.6ghz on my tf300. Got a quadrant score of 5290 and cf-bench of 14930, Antutu 13116.
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I am running at 1.6ghz on my tf300. Got a quadrant score of 5290 and cf-bench of 14930, Antutu 13116.
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I meant without root. Are phones actually more powerful now?
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Yes and no. True, they are clocked higher but, the internal processor is exactly the same in terms of speed and power. The RAM is also the same (1GB) except for that new LG phone which has 2 and is coming out in some Asian country later this year.
Also quadrant means nothing, were getting to the point where lower quadrants may mean better devices, let me explain.
A GOOD processor setup will clock down when in low power mode and when there is a high demand clock up to deal with it. Quadrant does not always throw enough weight to kickstart that high performance mode in all setups, so sometimes it tests lower than it should.
You also have to remember that quadrant tests IO of everything. If you have a better processor but, say, slower memory, you will test LOWER on quadrant even tho you have a better processor. If someone with, say a Galaxy S I9000 has an uber C10 micro SD and has the system loaded on that the IO for that system will be very high and even tho its only a 1ghz phone it could, in theory, quadrant higher than the TF201.
This is why i hate quadrant tests, they are flawed and i have seen roms that are meant to test high on quadrant and nothing else, and believe me for every day use they are SLOW.
Rest assured at this point theres only really one major quad core mobile processor. The 201 has it. The 300 has a lower clocked version of the same chip. The 700 is going to have a higher clocked version of the same chip. From a PROCESSOR standpoint, they are virtually identical.
Now when you say powerful, the galaxy S 3 (rumored) will definately have the potential to one up the prime. Usually samsung goes for lower res screens so the GPU doesnt have to work as hard, they have a customized chip so the processor may be slightly higher, and when factoring in other things (USB OTG, MHL abilities, Camera resolutions, etc.) it MAY be considered more powerful.
For now, tho, the prime is one of the top dogs. Maybe not THE top dog, but definitely a contender. Just remember: Theres always a bigger fish.
I concur with you fine sir.
These quadrant scores comparing processors should be ran to benchmark just the processor not everything else. That would at least give you comparable results.
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Are all the transformer quad cores the same core hardware clocked at different speeds or is the hardware actually different in each model? Wondering if the extra speed is worth the money or if I should just overclock the tf300t... Really only worried about performance...
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Are all the transformer quad cores the same core hardware clocked at different speeds or is the hardware actually different in each model? Wondering if the extra speed is worth the money or if I should just overclock the tf300t... Really only worried about performance...
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there are differences. plus 300 can never reach primes overclocked speeds. their Max overclock now is 1.5Ghz.(and that comes from an app made for prime) prime is 1.8-1.9Ghz(from prime kernel developers) there are several different variants of tegra3. ive seen an overclocked 300 compared to a prime at same speed and prime still scores alot higher in benchmarks(just an example as benchmarks don't really translate to real life performance).
if you want performance, prime is your best bet. plus prime developement scene is 6months ahead of 300. more roms, more performance. if you want to save money, get a 300. its still cool. just not as powerful as prime and display not as good.
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Are all the transformer quad cores the same core hardware clocked at different speeds or is the hardware actually different in each model? Wondering if the extra speed is worth the money or if I should just overclock the tf300t... Really only worried about performance...
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There is a review of the 300 on DL that showed the different Tegra3 types. It proved the 201 the better Tablet over others, but gave 300 props.
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So i just ran a test for the antutu benchmark with just the phone and nothing else and this is what i got Ill be running quadrant bench test also and that will be in my next reply Cant wait for root and unlock!
EDIT: Heres quadrant test stock with no 4g or extra stuff
wow how is the Antutu score so high???
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wow how is the Antutu score so high???
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quadcore and that 2gb of ram haha imagine if i put my 64gb sd card in there haha
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quadcore and that 2gb of ram haha imagine if i put my 64gb sd card in there haha
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Sd cards don't help performance.
I got an Antutu score of 18424 right after activation
For reference, my Galaxy Note 10.1 tablet only had scores in the 12,000 range... WOW
I just received my Galaxy Note II today and was a bit shocked that it scored a lower score in AnTuTu's benchmark than my HTC Droid DNA. Given that it has a faster CPU and less pixels to render, you would think it would be faster.
I scored 19164 with my HTC Droid DNA, which is much higher than the 18084 I got with the Galaxy Note II.
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I just received my Galaxy Note II today and was a bit shocked that it scored a lower score in AnTuTu's benchmark than my HTC Droid DNA. Given that it has a faster CPU and less pixels to render, you would think it would be faster.
I scored 19164 with my HTC Droid DNA, which is much higher than the 18084 I got with the Galaxy Note II.
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Processor is newere on the droid dna, I will always say we don't use benchmarks, so stop being disappointed in your score it by no means represents everyday use..They are both future proof for a few years..
I have to laugh at people who care about benchmark scores when they have a device with a quad core cpu in it running Android.
Haha I don't care really about benchmarks I was just impressed that's all. DNA is nice but I need sd card and something with battery life. Only got about 3/4 through a day on a full charge.
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My s3 scores 6200 on quadrant, 11000 on antutu...tells you benchmarks are worthless.
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My s3 scores 6200 on quadrant, 11000 on antutu...tells you benchmarks are worthless.
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Im guessing rooted and unlocked? lol i got mine up 12000 rooted with a different kernal. As long as the phone runs fast and smooth i could care less lol
Benchmarks are far from worthless. They are an objective indicator of how certain components perform under the exact same stress test.
Now what you can say is worthless is people who look at a final score that is rather irrational instead of looking at individual component scores.
For example, CPU scores in these benchmarks is a clear indicator of which phone has a faster processor. While the very same phone that had a slower processor may have a significantly better GPU. What this means to the end user is that expect games to perform better on the slower CPU phone, but also expect things like web browsing to perform worse on the same device.
It's all objective comparisons, certainly not something to claim as "worthless" but at the same time if you do not look at it the right way and just throw a generic total score number around, then you won't be fairly comparing any two devices properly.
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Wrong. The higher class sdcard, the faster the read/write speeds = better performance.
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Wrong. The higher class sdcard, the faster the read/write speeds = better performance.
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thank you :victory: My 64gb sd card increased the benchmark also. :good: And ya i usually look at certain things when running benchmarks but thats usually when im rooted and unlocked is when i really look at them closely.
After running Quadrant, my phone seems to warm up and each subsequent score is somewhat lower. I started at 6500 and it bottoms out around 6000. Anyone else have this heat problem?
Make sure everything is closed out when u run a test. It's putting everything to work in the phone so it's stressed out which could cause a lot of heat
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Wow did a antutu test on both of my phones and was expecting my L 9 to beat my escape. Boy was I suprised! My l 9 got a 10,568 ( pretty good compared to some). Then I ran the escape. My jaw dropped when I saw the amazing score of 15139. WHOA, it beat it in every catagory except RAM operation. My l 9 is running kumas rom with pure performance tweaks with cpu overclocked at 1.2 ghz. The escape is running sphinx rom with no cpu tweaks. Strange thing is every stats info I see on the escape says it has 1.2 ghz dc snapdragon. However im getting 1.5 ghz??? hmm Whats everyone else scores looking like for their L 9 ?
I get around 11k running mateo's CM 10.2 ROM.
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I have 9,616 running CyanogenMod 10.2 official (19/11/2013) :crying:
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I have 9,616 running CyanogenMod 10.2 official (19/11/2013) :crying:
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That's because custom rom overclock both CPU & GPU so it has higher score.
My L9 on CM 10.2 by mateo with stock cpu and gpu speeds i have 9843 pts
With CPU at 1,2 GHz i have 10671
With stock CPU and GPU at 384 MHz i have 9732 pts
With CPU at 1,2 GHz and GPU at 384 MHz i have 10706
With CPU at 1,35 GHz and GPU at 384 MHz i have 11502
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My l 9 is running kumas rom with pure performance tweaks with cpu overclocked at 1.2 ghz. The escape is running sphinx rom with no cpu tweaks. Strange thing is every stats info I see on the escape says it has 1.2 ghz dc snapdragon. However im getting 1.5 ghz??? hmm Whats everyone else scores looking like for their L 9 ?
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Your LG Escape has got a better cpu and gpu and it would have shown better performance anyway. My L9 running stock showed maximum of 9600 with pure performance tweaks. But I don't think Antutu points can give you a good idea of how fast and smooth your phone is
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Your LG Escape has got a better cpu and gpu and it would have shown better performance anyway. My L9 running stock showed maximum of 9600 with pure performance tweaks. But I don't think Antutu points can give you a good idea of how fast and smooth your phone is
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Thats what I was getting at. Despite having a better cpu and gpu on the escape using both phones side by side in real world use the L9 performs better ALL around. The gpu was a big part of the escapes high score. However in side by side comparisons the L9S graphics seems to look better and out perform the escape. So I honestly believe all benchmark scores reflects what the phones software/hardware is CAPABLE of performing not really HOW it performs with daily use. This would explain why a score can as much as double by simply running a custom rom. I would never solely base my opinion of a phones performance on a benchmark score. Sure it can give you a idea of what its software/hardware is capable of. However you cant honestly get a true feel for the performance until you try the phone. So my escape murders my L9 in benchmark scores. BUT my L9 murders my escape in real life usable performance. Anyone else agree with this?
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BUT my L9 murders my escape in real life usable performance. Anyone else agree with this?
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Yeah, I got your point! I guess, the only good thing about the Escape's cpu and gpu is that it's more battery-friendly, isn't it?
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Yeah, I got your point! I guess, the only good thing about the Escape's cpu and gpu is that it's more battery-friendly, isn't it?
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Yep, and both phones use the exact same battery. The escapes standby battery life is much longer than the L9 . During normal use the escape lasts longer as well by not to the degree of the standby difference.