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noob question...
Will someone develop a Sense-like ROM, once development gets underway for the Photon? I really liked Sense, but did not like the 3vo's sound/speaker quality. I would love a sense ROM on the Photon.
Is it possible to strip the sense interface from 3vo and stick it on the Photon? Will this only be possible if bootloader is cracked or would it be possible with root only?
Sorry if the question is redundant or too simplistic for this forum.
Thanks.
kimmied2000 said:
noob question...
Will someone develop a Sense-like ROM, once development gets underway for the Photon? I really liked Sense, but did not like the 3vo's sound/speaker quality. I would love a sense ROM on the Photon.
Is it possible to strip the sense interface from 3vo and stick it on the Photon? Will this only be possible if bootloader is cracked or would it be possible with root only?
Sorry if the question is redundant or too simplistic for this forum.
Thanks.
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it can be done but why? it's like a beautiful woman with a snaggletooth she's perfect till she smiles and ruins everything...
I honestly don't understand why everyone raves about sense. Yeah, its pretty, but never really added any functionality for me. I had an evo, and had a Evo Shift and the first chance I had to dump sense, I did.
I loved touchwiz on my epic, because it was basically just stock, tweaked a little.
To me HTC Sense is bloated and unnecessary. When you can't do certain things in sense that you can in stock android, it seems pointless.
Also, I don't know why everyone hates on blur. I know the old blur sucked, but whatever Ninja or Ghost blur the photon is running I absolutely LOVE.
@randomrobbi - "When you can't do certain things in sense that you can in stock android, it seems pointless"...maybe I missed something...what can't you do with sense that you can with stock?
The thing I miss most about sense is the widgets, especially the email one. It would show unread push email from several accounts including an exchange account and gmail. I liked that it would show the unread count immediately like photon does for voicemail.
I also liked the unlock screen where you could drag the slider circle to one of 4 apps that you want to use immediately.
And, yes, it was pretty. Couldn't a sense ROM have the bloatware stripped from it so that wouldn't be an issue?
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@randomrobbi - "When you can't do certain things in sense that you can in stock android, it seems pointless"...maybe I missed something...what can't you do with sense that you can with stock?
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I guess I misspoke about that. It's just harder to carry out some actions in sense, as compared to stock android. Like hitting dialer, and being able to easily access your starred contacts. I just felt like Sense added alot of extra steps to simple actions. I guess i'm just biased, but the first android I owned was an HTC Hero, which I never rooted or put a rom on. I didnt keep it long and went back to my blackberry. I've just always been more a fan of AOSP Android.
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I also liked the unlock screen where you could drag the slider circle to one of 4 apps that you want to use immediately.
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kimmie...try out THIS lockscreen. Same as the Sense one Agile Lock Screen
Also...I miss the Sense 3.0 Notification bar. Effin amazing. Has tons of toggles, quick access to apps, etc. Was so convenient & slick.
I'm sure I'm also in the minority but I happen to really like Sense, both visually and from an ease of use standpoint when setting up new devices. That said, I often turn a lot of those things off, or flip back and forth between various launchers but I still miss it sometimes. DEFINITELY agree about the Notifications, those are just the way I'd like them to be.
I'd love to see an installable Sense but it seems pretty deeply entangled in the rest of the system, just like Blur, so I dont know how well it'd work as a standalone.
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I'm sure I'm also in the minority but I happen to really like Sense, both visually and from an ease of use standpoint when setting up new devices. That said, I often turn a lot of those things off, or flip back and forth between various launchers but I still miss it sometimes. DEFINITELY agree about the Notifications, those are just the way I'd like them to be.
I'd love to see an installable Sense but it seems pretty deeply entangled in the rest of the system, just like Blur, so I dont know how well it'd work as a standalone.
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Im coming out of the closet too. I love the build and accessories of the Photon but im so damn used to Sense. Its like driving home from work, sure there are many ways but after awhile you find and get used to the fastest and easiest way home. Vogue, TP, TP2, Evo 4G and Evo 3D...currently Photon. Some days I forget how to get home.
Oh how about a touchwiz 4.0 like rom I really do miss my quick panel in the notification bar it was really handy :/
With the HTC Sense api recently available, i am sure that someone will start creating widgets and icons etc for other non-sense devices.
hmmm that didn't sound right, oh well, hope you guys know what I mean. lol
TS out
nunyabiziz said:
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Im coming out of the closet too. I love the build and accessories of the Photon but im so damn used to Sense. Its like driving home from work, sure there are many ways but after awhile you find and get used to the fastest and easiest way home. Vogue, TP, TP2, Evo 4G and Evo 3D...currently Photon. Some days I forget how to get home.
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Ifeel the same, I love the Motorola Photon... better speaker, better signal strength, call quality is better also... It just seems to be a little stronger over all.... But I miss the Sense 3.0. Sense is fluid with no lag.
The Motorola Blur has a slight delay when switching back and forth between home screens. I used to miss the graphical HTC widgets, but i have beautiful widgets for that so i am not realy missing anything. I just miss the speed and fluidness of Sense technology.
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Ifeel the same, I love the Motorola Photon... better speaker, better signal strength, call quality is better also... It just seems to be a little stronger over all.... But I miss the Sense 3.0. Sense is fluid with no lag.
The Motorola Blur has a slight delay when switching back and forth between home screens. I used to miss the graphical HTC widgets, but i have beautiful widgets for that so i am not realy missing anything. I just miss the speed and fluidness of Sense technology.
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The Delay can be removed with the super charger script, my buddy's Photon is now just about as smooth/quick as my Syngery Evo
The delay can be removed by adding launcher pro, turning off screen animations and putting all speed at 10... fastest phone out there then, faster and smoother than evo 3d.. i know because ive owned both lol
Edit: i know a lot of people prefer adw or GO but i dig LauncherPro.. also dont care about the updates as much because cool thing about blur is that you can use the widgets still once the overlay is installed, unlike sense.
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brandonkahn said:
The delay can be removed by adding launcher pro, turning off screen animations and putting all speed at 10... fastest phone out there then, faster and smoother than evo 3d.. i know because ive owned both lol
Edit: i know a lot of people prefer adw or GO but i dig LauncherPro.. also dont care about the updates as much because cool thing about blur is that you can use the widgets still once the overlay is installed, unlike sense.
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What the hell are you doing back here? According to your thread in the 3d forums, this phone is a piece of ****. However your info about launcher pro and the settings is correct.
I don't understand the hate for the M.A.P. launcher I actually dig it
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Try Launcher Pro as the launcher, register it for the senselike social widget, and get Weather & Toggle Widgets and tbe weather widget forecast addon for your flip clock. This makes for a NICE senselike alternative.
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Oh how about a touchwiz 4.0 like rom I really do miss my quick panel in the notification bar it was really handy :/
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I think any phone with ClockworkMod Recovery can flash TW 4.0. It said that on the homepage awhile ago. Go to the Galaxy S i9000 forums in the Themes and Apps section and one of them is flashable I think and works on any device.
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I think any phone with ClockworkMod Recovery can flash TW 4.0. It said that on the homepage awhile ago. Go to the Galaxy S i9000 forums in the Themes and Apps section and one of them is flashable I think and works on any device.
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Dude remember how unstable it was on our EPICS? I wonder if it has gotten any better though
randomrobbi said:
I honestly don't understand why everyone raves about sense. Yeah, its pretty, but never really added any functionality for me. I had an evo, and had a Evo Shift and the first chance I had to dump sense, I did.
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I used to be a sense guy too.. I mean.. compared to stock android... it blows it out of the water... After getting the Evo I got my wife a Samsung Moment... I upgraded it to 2.2 but I never saw stock android before... I thought it was still 1.5 or something because I couldn't believe stock android looked that bad...
Stock android is ugly as sin.. and the widgets are less than ****.
But then I found Launcher Pro and its "almost-like-sense" widgets for calendar and facebook and I've never looked back. I loved Evo Deck on my Evo and Evo Shift Deck on my wifes phone because it is CM7 with ADW Craplauncher removed and LP added... a much better choice I must say.
LP's widgets are the only thing close to Sense's widgets so until another launcher starts pushing good widgets... I'll never leave.
So to answer the OP... Launcher Pro is the only Sense-like option you have... combined with Fancy Widgets for the flip clock (its the only one that does auto-update of weather based on GPS.)
Has anyone tried both of these ROMs on the Amaze? I've read all 46 pages of the Revolution forum and several Energy. Both look like they meet my needs. But I'd like a good comparison between them.
My needs:
- Close to stock feel/look (like the blue themes)
- Ability to remove pre-installed apps/bloatware
- Wi-fi calling (must have due to my location)
- Better battery life
- A bit snappier
- Free tethering would be a bonus
I've read that some have experienced texting and mms sending issues with Energy and some say that Revolution is outdated.
I realize YMMV, but I'd appreciate a comparison between the 2. Thanks.
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I'm loving Revolution right now... And I ran Energy since the day it came out.
It has the stock feel and way easier to customise. It feels better than the stock Rom I just came from.
They're both easy to debloat and deodexed.
I use my phone so much that I get roughly the same battery life on both.
Both ROMs are very fast and snappy.
I would recommend both... But I'm preferring ARHD right now.
MrMako777 points out a good point though in another threas. ARHD is 1.36 build so no WiFi calling, so if u need that, then Energy would be better (although I prefer stock rooted over energy)
Sent from my HTC Ruby running Android Revolution HD
http://www.android-dev.us/showthread.php?395-ROM-BulletProof-v2-5-0-Reloaded-Sense-3-0-Wifi-Calling
Thanks for the quick reply!
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It has the stock feel and way easier to customise. It feels better than the stock Rom I just came from.
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Do you mean Revolution is easier to customise or Energy?
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MrMako777 points out a good point though in another threas. ARHD is 1.36 build so no WiFi calling, so if u need that, then Energy would be better (although I prefer stock rooted over energy)
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Hmmm. That's a little confusing. On the Revolution Thread, it says that there is "improved wi-fi calling" (from Post #1, ARHD 1.1.0 release date 19 Nov 11). Maybe since I need to have wi-fi calling, I should go with Energy.
Have you had the opportunity to test wi-fi calling with either one? Any issues (notably, the sending problems with Energy or the lack of capability with ARHD)?
Thanks again!
Sorry... Revolution is identical to stock as far as UI look... It is built on 1.36 which the stock 1.36 didn't have WiFi calling. I haven't tested it on revolution, but WiFi calling does work on Energy ROM. There's also a modified messaging apk that fixes a time stamp issue with texts.
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Ok. Now I'm leaning towards energy unless I can get more info on WiFi calling in ARHD.
You said that ARHD is more easily customized than Energy. But Energy can still be customized (wallpaper, ringtones, etc), right?
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ernieg92 said:
Ok. Now I'm leaning towards energy unless I can get more info on WiFi calling in ARHD.
You said that ARHD is more easily customized than Energy. But Energy can still be customized (wallpaper, ringtones, etc), right?
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Oh certainly... Wallpapers, Ringtones, Sounds, and even lockrings can be personalized on ALL rooted ROMs... NRGZ28 just has a heavy blue theme on his Rom... On the statusbar icons, dialer, app icons... Etc...
XBoarder has a pretty sick 3.5 ROM also that I'm a big fan of. You can find that at android-dev.us.
Craigtut has an ics themed ROM that is pretty nice also. I can't say too much, but his next update for that ROM is pretty sick
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glacierguy said:
Oh certainly... Wallpapers, Ringtones, Sounds, and even lockrings can be personalized on ALL rooted ROMs... NRGZ28 just has a heavy blue theme on his Rom... On the statusbar icons, dialer, app icons... Etc...
XBoarder has a pretty sick 3.5 ROM also that I'm a big fan of. You can find that at android-dev.us.
Craigtut has an ics themed ROM that is pretty nice also. I can't say too much, but his next update for that ROM is pretty sick
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Yup Sense 3.5 is sexy, Fourth Bar 3.0 is also amazing! but im too much of a "Sense" fan so i always go back to NRG's rom
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Yup Sense 3.5 is sexy, Fourth Bar 3.0 is also amazing! but im too much of a "Sense" fan so i always go back to NRG's rom
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Yeah... And whenever I root anyone else's amaze, I always put Energy on it... I think I just got bored with it maybe.
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glacierguy said:
NRGZ28 just has a heavy blue theme on his Rom... On the statusbar icons, dialer, app icons... Etc...
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I don't mind blue at all. That's actually my favorite color and I tend to update application themes to some kind of blue anyways. May save me some time......
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XBoarder has a pretty sick 3.5 ROM also that I'm a big fan of. You can find that at android-dev.us.
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I'll check that out. Do u know what it's called? I'm really trying to stick with stock-like ROMs for now. You say you're a big fan of it; what stands out (say compared w/the 2 ROMs discussed)?
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Craigtut has an ics themed ROM that is pretty nice also. I can't say too much, but his next update for that ROM is pretty sick
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they're soooo many ROMs! I may get more adventurous if this rooting / flashing goes well. I've only done it once b4 and that was with ODIN so it was pretty easy.....
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I'll check that out. Do u know what it's called? I'm really trying to stick with stock-like ROMs for now. You say you're a big fan of it; what stands out (say compared w/the 2 ROMs discussed)?
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xboarders sense 3.5 rc1.7, great rom (my DD) it's fast, stable, and had great tweaks. though it doesn't leave much room for themes, as m10tools for 3.5 was never well adopted.
for stock 3.0 with a ton of mods i recommend bulletproof 2.5, if ARHD had a current version that would be my go-to as mike1986 is a solid dev.
Good to hear about u liking blue... U will prolly be best off with NRG ROM.
I like the 3.5 (its called Sense 3.5 RC1.7) for it has 3.5 features compared to 3.0... I mainly like the snappiness and loon myself.
Here's what I do. I flash a ROM using 4ext. I backup its stock load. Then I customize. After I have it the way I want and am sure its running stable after I modify it, I do a another backup and delete the old backup. Then I format all partitions (except sd) in the recovery's wipe menu and flash the next ROM... And repeat
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hmm... i want ics ;(, sure this phone is amazing but a Sense 3.6 would just be sexy,
the "Mainstream" Devs that make Stabe roms are
Xboarder56
NRGZ28
Mike1986
If you find a rom from them for the amaze its gonna be soild
ernieg92 said:
they're soooo many ROMs! I may get more adventurous if this rooting / flashing goes well....
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Sorry... I just had to quote this.
It's not everyday someone comments on how about how vibrant and active the Amaze development community was...
There are a few others that I didn't mention from HeyJoe and Chrispaw also here, as well as more at Android-dev.us.
When ICS and s=off happen, it should get even better.
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glacierguy said:
Sorry... I just had to quote this.
It's not everyday someone comments on how about how vibrant and active the Amaze development community was...
There are a few others that I didn't mention from HeyJoe and Chrispaw also here, as well as more at Android-dev.us.
When ICS and s=off happen, it should get even better.
Sent from my Stock Rooted and Highly Customized HTC Ruby using Tapatalk
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I list all the Roms here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1545464
i have to update this lol, but no stable releases have come out in a while
we do have a lot of roms , just no ICS
We have about 15 roms give or take
Thanks to all of you for your inputs. I'm going to go with the Energy ROM and see how that goes. Maybe I'll try something else after that.
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Thanks to all of you for your inputs. I'm going to go with the Energy ROM and see how that goes. Maybe I'll try something else after that.
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Well, this phone was really easy to unlock/root. The custom recovery has a lot of interesting options--I see how easy it is now to switch between ROMs when you get bored with one!
For those that are lurking and may be intested in my experience (b/c you'd like to try something like this):
- The "How To Root HTC Ruby" was very helpful. for the overall rooting process Post #2 was a bit confusing (I think there are some links missing). I basically went to the HTCDev website, registered, and followed the unlock instructions on the site.
- I used the Clockword Mod custom recovery (as opposed to what was suggested in the above post). A good thing to note is that when installing a ROM it says to do a reset/wipe, the author generally means through the recovery, not the device (I ended up doing both since I didn't know about the option in the recovery).
- Once the recovery is in place, adding the ROM is as simple as downloading the ZIP, copying it to SDcard, rebooting to recovery, and loading the ZIP. If I can do it, just about anyone else can, too!
- After installing the Energy ROM, I could not get the WiFi to work. Rather than read hundreds of posts, I did a search on that thread and found an updated kernel in Post #4. Followed the specific instructions and problem solved.
Now that I have been running this for a couple of days, only a few things that I don't like:
- Random reboots. Though I did have them on stock, they appear more often now.
- The HTC Trace keyboard acts much differently than on stock. For example, when swiping some letters, words I've never used pop up and choices that I expect don't appear. I presume it's because NRG customized it for himself.
- It is REALLLY blue. If you don't like blue, this is not the ROM for you! (Did not mean to rhyme that but if works.) Blue is my favorite color so I don't mind it that much. But because of the way he has themed it, some screens appear much darker than they should. Also, within the tray, there is no distincition between background apps (like WiFi calling, JuiceDefender, etc) and Notifications (package updates, email updates, etc) because the theme is so dark.
Overall, now that I've "got my feet wet" with this ROM, I may actually look at others. But this was a great place to start.
I got no reboots with Energy ROM. I've never gotten a reboot (unless I was testing something in alpha/beta stages) on this phone. And if u used 4ext recovery, you wouldn't have had the broken WiFi because you don't have to flash the kernel separately.
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i never had any random boots with any rom besides Bliss Sense 3.5 ( My FAV Sense 3.5 but was never released stable ............
Maybe I got a lemon device. Though I talked to a t-mo rep who has an Amaze and he said there are occasional reboots.
I may try another ROM and see if that helps but I doubt it will.
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So I've come to a delimma.
Sooner or later, there will be an official port for CM9 or AOKP for the Evo LTE.
I had an OG evo for 2 years, and never really liked sense. Even when Sense 3.0 came out, I liked the ring lockscreen and the fact that you could drag a new message to the ring to open it etc... But I always found the sense 3.0 ports to the OG Evo to be half baked, or slow/laggy.
I stuck true to Evo Deck, and when he started developing the ICS deck, I kept up with it, as well as AOKP.
After using my Evo LTE for a week, I've grown to like sense 4. I really like the lockscreen features, specifically the dragging message feature. I find that sense 4.0, true to it's theory of development, is much less obtrusive than sense 3.0, but deep down I still have a yearning for pure google, the true ICS flavor (or at least AOKP, same flavor, but with sprinkles.)
I know that the lockscreen shortcuts can be emulated with a quad or octo lockscreen, but what about the sliding message feature?
What are your guys' thoughts on the matter?
Who's going to stick with HTC's sense when CM9 or AOKP (or even Kush's ROM if he's making it own, haven't kept up with it recently) come or, and who's going to jump ship to a non-sense rom and why?
I'm excited to hear what everyone else thinks!
Have you looked at go locker? Or widget locker? Those two have some nice features that emulate the sense lockscreen and are nice when you run aosp and aokp.
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Hmm, I don't generally like using third party lockscreens, in my experience they're pretty buggy and don't mesh well with the os, a lot of blinking out when you unlock lag, re-locks etc
get a nexus LOL .
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CM9 all the way as soon as it's released. I actually had a hard time deciding between this and the Galaxy Nexus but I couldn't pass up on the specs of this thing.
Cm9 allllll the way... As long as all the camera functions get ported over.
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so is ANYONE sticking with sense?
I also noticed that google wallet doesn't work with rooted phones....
I'll go back and forth between the two. I love sense4 but it's glitchy.
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so is ANYONE sticking with sense?
I also noticed that google wallet doesn't work with rooted phones....
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I tried setting up Google Wallet today just for the hell of it and it just wouldn't work. I think it's because I have 2-step verification enabled on my account. Doesn't matter, I never really planned on using it anyway except maybe to spend the $10 they give you for signing up. There are about 4 different mobile payment methods that are all supported by different companies (almost none of which support Google Wallet) I have a feeling it's not going to survive very long anyway. Even the GNex on Verizon doesn't have it installed because Verizon supports a different payment method.
As for Sense, it was useful on earlier versions of Android to make things a little prettier and more user friendly. Matias Duarte and his team have done a great job to address that and now I just feel it gets in the way. Think of what you have to go through just to change the wallpaper. On stock ICS you long press on the screen and choose change wallpaper. On this you pull down the notification tray>settings>personalize>wallpaper. It's just not intuitive and simple like it should be.
Another thing that bothers me is the recent apps. It seems like they changed some stuff just for the sake of changing it and have a worse implementation of it.
I personally have always preferred Sense or Sense based ROMs. Could never get into the vanilla experience on a phone it just looks so "8 bit" to me. I'll definitely be keeping Sense 4, love the look and functionality.
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I personally have always preferred Sense or Sense based ROMs. Could never get into the vanilla experience on a phone it just looks so "8 bit" to me. I'll definitely be keeping Sense 4, love the look and functionality.
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There in lies the beauty of Android, everyone can have exactly what they like. Take for instance the roms for the OG EVO by MagnusRagnarok, I always felt they were way over the top but there are a lot of people who liked them. I personally always defaulted to either CM7 or Fresh roms. I do feel that ICS is quite beautiful in it's elegance though, much more so than earlier versions of Android. It's not handicapped like iOS but still very intuitive.
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There in lies the beauty of Android, everyone can have exactly what they like. Take for instance the roms for the OG EVO by MagnusRagnarok, I always felt they were way over the top but there are a lot of people who liked them. I personally always defaulted to either CM7 or Fresh roms. I do feel that ICS is quite beautiful in it's elegance though, much more so than earlier versions of Android. It's not handicapped like iOS but still very intuitive.
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This is what matters is to keep what you said in mind. For example I like to try the newest thing but I got the EVO over the nexus for sense. That way I could play with the newest thing but always go back to sense.
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I've never flashed ROMs before and initially I loved Sense, however the issues with multitasking and Sense reboots is driving me insane!
Nova Launchers is helping, but I think I'll be trying a ROM, but only if it's fully functional.
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so is ANYONE sticking with sense?
I also noticed that google wallet doesn't work with rooted phones....
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I will stick with sense as I have not had the issues others have had. (Multitask, lag, etc..) Sense seems to run fine for me, hell it's a phone..
Also I have rooted my phone and google wallet works just fine. It did take me many attempts to get my 10$ credit but it seems to wkr fine. the issue I have is I never take my phone with me into stores, etc... so I haven't tested it yet...
I am going to get some (already ordered) some NFC tags so I can play with that seems kewl..
http://tagsfordroid.com/tags/Home.html
Also I really love the camera on this phone and all the functions. It's pretty awesome!
I will hang on to sense for a while until CM9 is fully vetted...and seems stable then I will probably try it...
So far so good... my friends are jealous!
For anyone who hasn't tried it yet the sense 4 car dock is arguably the best car dock I've used.
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I've always used Sense. I want to like stock and it is getting better but I still feel it is just a little behind UI wise.
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Thanks for the good discussion! I'm still on the OG EVO, running SOS ROM. Swagstr has done wonders to make Sense 1.0 run as it should but what I'm hearing regarding sense 4.0 just bugs me. Multitasking is something I use a lot of and sense restarts have always plagued me. I love the scenes in sense, use one for home and one for work and generally like the polish it brings. Hate the laggy aspects as well.
I love the new EVO hardware and while I was tempted to go with the GNex, it's just too dated now. If it wasn't for the multitasking screw up, I'd be picking one up today. In the meantime, I'm reading reviews and seeing what the Devs have in store.
A couple of questions:
What are the opinions on multitasking? I switch from Touchdown to Enhanced Email, to Voice, Pulse, Handcent almost constantly during the day. This sounds like a hair pulling situation in Sense 4.
Sense restarts? I know it's a sure thing to restart if too many browser tabs are open, but I also get it if I switch from Pulse to browser or another app a few too many times. Are people seeing frequent restarts?
Thanks again!
I haven't used sense in over a year. I use widget locker for the lockscreen, nova launcher for the launcher, beautiful widgets for the time/weather on the home screen. Even use a different dialer - dialer one, which allows way more customization than the stock.
IMO, sense does nothing more than dumb down the phone. If you want a dumb phone, go iphone
The pic below with the clock at the top is my home screen. Clock at the bottom is the lock screen. Everything right where I need it.
I've always liked sense best because I didn't really like the look of stock android, but now ICS went better on the UI side. I still think I like sense 4 better though.
I actually liked Sense as well. Even though I rooted my OG EVO to get superuser stuff and wi-fi tether, I stuck with sense.
Sense 4 looked very nice BUT it was reloading constantly. Every time i exited an app.
There are several root-required tweeks I have seen that are supposed to help this, but I'm not sure how much you can do as much memory as Sense is taking up.
For now problem solved with Nova Launcher, which I think I will keep even after I decide to Root & ROM - Very interested in what is going on with Viper's custom ROM myself.
Also, if you want to try a different phone dialer, check out aTakephone, just like my old Treo!
I can't get lte on cm10 so back to sense which one ??
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Try them and pick the one you like the most
stock with goodies. by far
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1701117
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Try them all and pick which works best for your. For aesthetics try tranquility by team bad Seed. Make sure you got the latest firmware
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if u want a solid hella fast rom with great battery life check out mean rom!!! butter baby!!!!:good:
viper4g room is very nice...you can customize almost everything very easily and very good battery life...
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mean vs viper what the differences and which one is beeter and more stable as daily driver ?
10-Dee-Q said:
mean vs viper what the differences and which one is beeter and more stable as daily driver ?
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Better is subjective, but here's my $0.02
I've been running viper since day one, and it's crazy easy to customize, which is its main claim to fame. But I've also never had any issues with bugs, reboots, or apps crashing. Literally never, not even once. It's the definition of a daily driver - everything works, it's fast, and I get great battery. It's a "set it and forget it" type of rom.
Mean seems more into the the constant tweaking and updating, and is more interested in adding the "latest and greatest" mods for the phone. It's a rom that you want to stay on top of.
From what I've seen, both roms get great support in their threads from the devs and users, but the viper crew has a reputation for being smartasses and having fun while doling out the support, so if you're the kind of guy who likes your support thread to be all business, that might come into play.
I can vouch for mean, viper and tranquility. They are all daily drivers it just depends on what suits you best. I was happy with all of them I just like trying new stuff all the time. Mean is pretty much stock with tweaks. Viper is very custumizable and tranquility is very heavily themed.
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Tried'em all. MeanRom for me by a longshot.
Mikey is constantly tweaking it, but your always in disbelief that it can get any better, and yet it does.
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+1 to mean rom, great battery, my phone has never had a reboot of any kind or even a fc(rom related anyway) He puts out outdates all the time, has an ota updater which is pretty awesome. Also pretty customizable.
pbedard said:
I can't get lte on cm10 so back to sense which one ??
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So, which one did you go with and how are you liking it?
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I've been on MeanROM since day one and now looking for other options. Linkifier no longer works, the smallest fonts are still entirely too large, the stock E-mail client is gimped and 5x4 Rosie still overlaps. I realize the latest HTC base broke most of that stuff while completely ignoring the flawed mail app, but that's not progress.
Now I'm wondering if there's another Sense ROM I should try or go straight to AOSP. If I do, I'll lose HTC's camera tweaks and the ability to update the PRL.
Viper4G gets my vote. Was my first Sense ROM to try and after trying all the others it suited me best. My favorite Sense ROM no doubt but like others have said its really down to personal preference.
V4G was, and still is a hella nice daily driver. I even trusted it enough to guide me through my vacation instead of my old lady's GPS and everything else. Awesome ROM.
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Meanrom
I just flashed it but it has a ota update feature where u can download the newest release right through the ROM itself.
Check it out.
My battery drain is minimal and its very smooth.
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No flex is the best. It comes with mad blunts and b1tches. His home number even comes in so your girlfriend can call him with any questions. Mad phat son
Anthonicia said:
No flex is the best. It comes with mad blunts and b1tches. His home number even comes in so your girlfriend can call him with any questions. Mad phat son
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Flex`s stock w/ goodies is smooth
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I've been on MeanROM since day one and now looking for other options. Linkifier no longer works, the smallest fonts are still entirely too large, the stock E-mail client is gimped and 5x4 Rosie still overlaps. I realize the latest HTC base broke most of that stuff while completely ignoring the flawed mail app, but that's not progress.
Now I'm wondering if there's another Sense ROM I should try or go straight to AOSP. If I do, I'll lose HTC's camera tweaks and the ability to update the PRL.
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linkify works fine for me on meanrom 4.3...also that is why mike switched it the 4x4 rosie b.c 5x4 doesnt work yet (and he stated this)
he also didnt mess with the stock font so it may be the same on every sense rom for you. what are you trying to do in the stock e-mail app? i use it and thats all i use and i can do everything i need to...
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linkify works fine for me on meanrom 4.3...also that is why mike switched it the 4x4 rosie b.c 5x4 doesnt work yet (and he stated this)
he also didnt mess with the stock font so it may be the same on every sense rom for you. what are you trying to do in the stock e-mail app? i use it and thats all i use and i can do everything i need to...
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1.) Linkify doesn't work in HTCMail. Hyperlinks are now dead in mail from 2.13.651.1 RUU and there is no easy fix. I believe this affects all up-to-date Sense ROMs
2.) Mike left the mail app alone and that's my beef with it-- it blows. The smallest font size is still entirely too large, which brings me to my next point..
3.) With a 720x1280 native resolution from an otherwise gorgeous 4.7" LCD, NO user deserves to be stuck with a 4x4 Rosie. Give me a ****ing break on the Playskool fonts, and I'm not 60 years old. I don't appreciate others reading my E-mail over my shoulder on an airplane, just because HTC gimped their software.
With Linkify crippled and the too-large font size still unresolved, I can't recommend a Sense ROM at this point. For me, MeanROM is there just to activate and update the PRL before flashing over to CM10.
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1.) Linkify doesn't work in HTCMail. Hyperlinks are now dead in mail from 2.13.651.1 RUU and there is no easy fix. I believe this affects all up-to-date Sense ROMs
2.) Mike left the mail app alone and that's my beef with it-- it blows. The smallest font size is still entirely too large, which brings me to my next point..
3.) With a 720x1280 native resolution from an otherwise gorgeous 4.7" LCD, NO user deserves to be stuck with a 4x4 Rosie. Give me a ****ing break on the Playskool fonts, and I'm not 60 years old. I don't appreciate others reading my E-mail over my shoulder on an airplane, just because HTC gimped their software.
With Linkify crippled and the too-large font size still unresolved, I can't recommend a Sense ROM at this point. For me, MeanROM is there just to activate and update the PRL before flashing over to CM10.
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and none of those are the caused by meanrom, i just dont want someone thinking the rom is not complete or something, everyone is entitled to what they want, unfortunately the email thing is bc of apple . but the 4x4 rosie i actually like better, widgets never fit perfectly on 4x5 rosie. i dunno personal opinion i guess
Hey guys.
Does anyone know if using an AOSP rom, you loose out on any features, such as hardware camera processing or others by not being on a Sense-based ROM?
Thanks,
Da
You will lose anything related to sense. Widgets, camera software, profile & prl update capabilities, etc.
I would say you definitely lose out on overall stability and also some features. First and foremost you may experience LOS (loss of signal) which can be really crippling and just make the phone unusable. Also, most AOSP seem to have a problem either sending or receiving MMS. Not to mention you can't update profile and prl.
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It's a matter of opinion HTC does not open source their software, and they wait till the last minute to release kernel sources, as for prl and profile you can't update them via an aosp Rom. But a quick flash or restore to sense and you can as for stability I'd say aosp or stock.
You may miss HTC's applications such as friend stream and others but you can easily find a variant for it.
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Thanks for the replies.
Understood with the prl update stuff.
I run custom prls atm so I can roam on 3g when desired.
I was mainly asking because I heard there is a processing chip that enables the instant photo shoots, or something similar. Wanted to know definitively if sense drivers were needed for this hardware based functionality and if there was any other loss of hardware features.
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As far as I can tell image sense is basically postprocessing but I could be wrong. The libs for image sense were ported to cmx some time ago, not sure about other aosp roms
You win some and you lose some. Multitasking is ornamental in AOSP an fast as hell, but the imagesense hardware and software are unbeatable on sense. I'm running viper4g right now with only the complaint that even the new multitasking "fixes" aren't 100%
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As far as I can tell image sense is basically postprocessing but I could be wrong. The libs for image sense were ported to cmx some time ago, not sure about other aosp roms
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Source on this?
What i miss is the overall integration of my social networks. While you can get apps that help you do it, in sense its already there and works seamlessly. I can see their Facebook and twitter statuses as they call me. But i cant in AOSP from what i have seen. How ever... I like how fast AOSP is, only thing that keeps me away is the sense camera ( its so damn fast ) and the signal stability issue. Once time i walked outside of my workplace and i had signal, just not data. and it stayed that way for about 5 minutes. never happens in sense
Internet passthrough
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thats actually a good one. useful for when you are at work with no LTE
For me personally no aosp rom has equal battery life to any of our sense based
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thats actually a good one. useful for when you are at work with no LTE
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Yup I usr it at my dorm all the time due to their painfully slow WiFi so we use the neighbors Ethernet since mines busted
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