This flashable zip will allow to choose how to mount your internal and external storage.
Your two options are:
Internal storage as /mnt/sdcard and external storage as /mnt/sdcard/ext_sd
Internal storage as /mnt/sdcard/ext_sd and external storage as /mnt/sdcard
I have not been able to successfully mount the internal anywhere else unfortunately but will continue looking into it.
SIDE EFFECTS/ISSUES WITH THIS METHOD
You can not mount the external sdcard to a computer
In storage settings, External storage shows under "Phone storage" and the internal storage shows under "Storage card"
Selecting "Unmount storage card" will unmount the internal storage ("Mount storage card" will remount it though)
If you remove or boot with out the external sdcard neither storage space will be available for use
Possibly others...
Changelog
v1.0.1
Updated touch calibration
Changed update-binary-installer
Bug fix
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Initial release
350 views from 2 different threads and not a single PM.
I'm definitely interested, however I am curious about what the reason/benefit of this mod would be.
mike.r.olson said:
I'm definitely interested, however I am curious about what the reason/benefit of this mod would be.
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The benefit would be all the big games will store the game data on the bigger external card. Along with other settings certain apps store. Also, if you have to exchange your phone, you keep all of your data.
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mike.r.olson said:
I'm definitely interested, however I am curious about what the reason/benefit of this mod would be.
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It would make your sd your storage... 16gb built into phone or my 64gb card hmmmm lol
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maxdamage2122 said:
I need a couple people with TWRP/CWM recovery to test out a couple flashable zips for me since I have not unlocked my bootloader yet. If you are interested please PM me and let me know which recovery you are running. PLEASE DO NOT post anything in this thread till I am done testing and have posted the zip. I should have it up late tonight (sadly I have work today) if everything goes as planned.
I have figured out how to mount the external storage as /sdcard and the internal storage as /sdcard/ext_sd. I have not been able to successfully mount the internal anywhere else unfortunately but will continue looking into it.
SIDE EFFECTS/ISSUES WITH THIS METHOD
You can not mount the external sdcard to a computer
In storage settings, External storage shows under "Phone storage" and the internal storage shows under "Storage card"
Selecting "Unmount storage card" will unmount the internal storage ("Mount storage card" will remount it though)
If you remove or boot with out the external sdcard neither storage space will be available for use
Possibly others...
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I'll test it for you, but I would also like a few things changed. Maybe increase app storage? Or could we dedicated some of it to phone ram?
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Updated OP with flashable zip.
Hey, can we PM, we may be on to something, we have the same dilemma lol.
maxdamage2122 said:
350 views from 2 different threads and not a single PM.
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I bet not too many people have filled up their internal storage...once they do they will be posting here in drones.
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This is a big benefit thanks cause when flashing roms twrp doesnt see the external sd card
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What I'd really like to see is the ability to have swap.
pbedard said:
This is a big benefit thanks cause when flashing roms twrp doesnt see the external sd card
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TWRP does allow you to view the external sdcard you have to go into mounts and change it. Be sure to change it back though or your back up's wind up on your external card.
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There should be a couple extra steps put in the OP.
And remember original storage is:
Internal storage = the app itself
Phone storage = the apps data
sd card= everything else
1. any apps that (the apk file itself) are installed in the phone storage, should be moved to internal storage.
2. Any of the game data that is on phone storage, should be moved to the actual sd card (sdcard2). This data is in the Android folder on phone storage (sdcard). So it should be moved from /mnt/sdcard/android/data to /mnt sdcard/ext_sdcard/android/data. Really just move the whole folder to the sd card. I moved the whole folder to phone storage from the sd card when I got the phone so I didn't have to sit there and download all the game data for the bigger games and such again.
3. Follow the steps in the OP of this hack.
4. If you want to get some of your 2 GB app storage space back, move the apps as you wish to phone storage. This will be the app apk file not the huge game data. But this time phone storage will be the actual sd card. So it won't take away from your 10 GB it will take away from the sd card.
The apps that get moved will get moved from /data/app to /mnt/sdcard/.android_secure.
also at this step I would say move a couple big apps/games as oppose to many little apps/games. Better to have a couple big ones to load not that often, than to have many little apps to load more often and cause more slowdown. The more little apps you have on the sd card the more possibility the phone gets slowed down, cause no matter what sd card u have, it's gonna be just a little slower than what came on the phone. So moving just a couple 50 mb games should go a long ways.
Now the question is what to do with that 10 GB. If I do this hack, which I eventually will, I would probably fill this space with titanium backups, have the pictures and video saved here, roms and such I will flash I recovery, ringtones, wallpapers. You kinda don't have to many more choices with this space. if I'm gonna take space away from the memory card but don't want to delete any of my 40 GB of music, I would want to move whatever I could in that 10 GB of space so it doesn't get wasted. Remember moving apps or huge game data doesn't go into the 10GB anymore.
There are pluses to this hack and there are minuses. Until I get the exact figures on what I can put where I am going to wait on doing all this, but I hope I helped give a bit of an overview to what is going on with your storage space and how it is used.
I posted this in the other thread too so no one misses it cause moving stuff around is time consuming and annoying.
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What I was thinking is to redo partition sizes. The 2.3gb for internal app storage get increased a little more.
Could we use some space to increase our RAM as seen in task manager? Mount the rest as the /android or /data folder so our apps would load faster instead of ex_sdcard.
Mount the external SD as the sdcard as normal. Sounds crazy I know..
sent from my EVO LTE
How does this differ from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1716166??
EarlyMon said:
How does this differ from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1716166??
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It's the same. The OP of that thread didn't see my thread when he made his. Mine is a flashable zip and his is the manual method (good for people that don't have unlocked bootloaders).
The zip failed for me in TWRP
No real error, just says failed!
Weird..
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Spyderekz said:
The zip failed for me in TWRP
No real error, just says failed!
Weird..
sent from my EVO LTE
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Updated OP with a new version. Try that one out.
Flashed the new zip last night, everything is sweet. In fact I was having a problem moving apps from the internal [2GB) to the phone storage [10GB) and having the moved apps survive a reboot before I did this hack. I would move them, and after next time I would reboot, it would have the storage space taken up but not be installed. This is what made me flash this cause I was only going to have the 2 GB for apps. So after doing this and reboot everything is where it's suppose to be. Fixed my tons of problems with Google music too. storage and ram are a pain in the ass with this phone.
Follow my instructions and everything will be great.
My question is when I do flash new ROM and the swap mounts gets undone, can I flash this after the ROM in the same session or after a fresh install and reboot?
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ryanalan82 said:
My question is when I do flash new ROM and the swap mounts gets undone, can I flash this after the ROM in the same session or after a fresh install and reboot?
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Yes you can.
Edit: Flash in the same session.
Flash after rom
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From what I understand, the 8GB of internal storage on the DX2 is divided into 2GB for apps, 4.3GB free to do whatever with, and the rest for Android. Right now out the 4.3GB of free storage I have ~800MB unused, which implies I've used 3.5GB. However, when I connect my phone to my PC and scan the contents of that 4.3GB of free storage, it shows that there is only 2.2GB of data on there. Where is the remaining 1.3GB and is there any way I can access/delete it to free up space?
I thought around 2gb was set aside for application storage.
I have no idea how much stuff u have on ur internal storage but u may want to move storage for pictures and.music to external storage..u can just move music files and the DCIM folder to external sd card and reboot which should free up some space...also try clearing cache from stock recovery to see what that frees up if u have never done that...
also in camera app settings to make ur pics store directly to sd card there is a setting for that so u don't have to manually move them...
Hy Drippis Welcome to the forums,
First off let me say if you want to solve a problem with your phone if you follow what ashclepdia says you'll never go wrong he has a great deal of knowledge on these phone's.
Second I never liked this type of labeling system for the storage on this phone.
Third a short explanation of the storage on our phone's.
Our phone has the following, according to VZW and Moto:
- 8GB of internal storage. This breaks down as 2 GB secure memory and 6 GB of usable memory.
- 8GB of external storage which refers to the removable SD card behind the battery.
In the 2 GB lives the Android system files and installed applications with most of their associated data. Some programs are accustomed to using the "sd card" which I will get back to in a minute. You can look at the status of this 2 GB in 2 different ways: 1. Settings - Storage - Application storage, "Available Space"; 2. Settings - Applications - Storage Use - All - Application Storage (on the bottom of the screen).
The 6 GB can be viewed by: 1. Settings - Storage - Internal Storage; 2. Settings - Applications - Storage Use - Media Area.
When you move things to the Media area, you are taking a portion of the installed app from the 2GB and moving it to the 6GB, which is similar to the way in tho older phones, you moved apps to the SD card. So, the question is why do we move apps to the SD card? In older phones there was far less "internal storage" and you would literally run low on memory for apps. New phones have much more space, so unless you are installing lots and lots of apps, it shouldn't be a problem.
With our phone, they have included internal, hard wired, SD Card-like storage, which can be used, mounted/unmounted, just like an external SD Card. The Media Area is simply a folder on this remaining 6 GB area. In some cases, this is automatically done by some apps, for backup purposes or caches.
Hope this is of some value 2u..
If this was helpful, be sure to press the thanks button!
These aren't the droids you're looking for.
Thanks for the responses. Although informative, they didn't answer my primary question so let me clarify. Not enough storage isn't the problem. I've already set up and moved all my pictures, movies, music, etc. to my 32 GB external sd card. My issue lies with the 4.3 GB of free-to-do-as-you-please storage on the internal sd card.
Out of this 4.3 GB
I've used 2.2 GB
And it says I have .8 GB free
Which leaves 1.3 GB missing
I guess I'll boot into recovery and wipe cache to see if that does much.
Not sure if this matters with regard to this issue, but I had been running P3's pre-rooted GB since I got this phone and earlier this week I flashed Eclipse 1.3 (loving it). I did wipe data before applying the zip.
Drippis said:
Thanks for the responses. Although informative, they didn't answer my primary question so let me clarify. Not enough storage isn't the problem. I've already set up and moved all my pictures, movies, music, etc. to my 32 GB external sd card. My issue lies with the 4.3 GB of free-to-do-as-you-please storage on the internal sd card.
Out of this 4.3 GB
I've used 2.2 GB
And it says I have .8 GB free
Which leaves 1.3 GB missing
I guess I'll boot into recovery and wipe cache to see if that does much.
Not sure if this matters with regard to this issue, but I had been running P3's pre-rooted GB since I got this phone and earlier this week I flashed Eclipse 1.3 (loving it). I did wipe data before applying the zip.
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I CAN say that if u are running 1.3 eclipse on p3s GB u are on the wrong kernel and that may cause some problems ...
not sure if that's what's causing this issue for u or not. .
also when on eclipse the sdcard and internal storage are flip flopped. to see what space u have on internal storage go to settings>storage>sdcard....that is ur internal storage space when on eclipse....
bootstrap does not recognize that flip tho fyi....
my first recommendations is getting on the 2.3.4 kernel by sbf to 2.3.4
if u flashed 1.3 over p3droids rooted gb then u are still on 2.3.3 kernel ..
which can cause issues...since any eclipse 1.0 or later needs u to have the 2.3.4 kernel...only way to change kernel is sbf or OTA update.
there is a sticky on how to sbf in this forum...don't be intimidated...it is very simple...follow instructions ...
edit::: how bout a screenshot of ur storage setting screen and also ur about.phone screen.((screen shot er (or er2) from market works just fine))
Look in a file manager and see if you have a file named ".trash-1000" or something similar. If you are viewing your files on a PC, it will be a hidden folder. See if you have any files in there. When you delete something it creates a .trash folder and keeps it on your storage device like the recycle bin does on your PC. I think its supposed to "empty" itself but may not have. If you have files on there, you can just delete the whole .trash folder. Just a thought.
I know the TFP doesn't come with an external SD card, but in the internal storage theres an SD card partition set to 27GB - however, I don't seem to be able to move any of my apps to the SD card, is there any way to do this?
It's incredibly frustrating when I'm trying to download my Spotify playlists to get the 'not enough memory left to download more songs' message when I've got 25GB free in the SD card partition.
I'm running ICS.
I thought the SD Card partition was just what the directory name for the internal drive? Are the apps not already downloaded to the internal storage to begin with?
jfrzy said:
I thought the SD Card partition was just what the directory name for the internal drive? Are the apps not already downloaded to the internal storage to begin with?
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That is what I believe too.
so I see the micro sd card in the file manager so how would you put apps on the micro sd card
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PRIME, w/out a memory card, has all of its memory merged basically. The internal/external is merged for complete use for whatever you want. Inserting a memory card would show up as removable memory or ext2 or something. No need to put to apps to a memory card really unless you running out of memory already.
Weird, I'm not sure why I was getting that message then, since I had 25+ GB free.
jackofaiitrades said:
Weird, I'm not sure why I was getting that message then, since I had 25+ GB free.
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Maybe that app needs updating for HC/ICS support. As to why its not recognizing the memory. You could always get a memory card n see if it acts any differently.
Way back on older Android versions and especially phones that had no iinternal memory, android use to have app memory n such separated. ALOT of people became mad because they would run out of memory for apps so fast. SO once phones n tablets came out with built in internal memory, they merged it so that you could use all the memory if you wanted for apps or whatever. PRIME DOES this. Some other devices/phones may be a lil different. ANOTHER reason why Prime doesn't show up as a USB Mass Storage device when hooked up to a computer. Now it uses MTP, I believe.
Install "ZDBox" from XDA Developers.... free from the android market
the tool let you moves apps at will to any location.
I
PuroKaibil said:
Install "ZDBox" from XDA Developers.... free from the android market
the tool let you moves apps at will to any location.
I
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It says only for Android 2.2 or 2.3. Plus it hasn't been updated in the longest time. Read some comments of how it eats up battery and somehow messing up the memory partitions or something. Not sure. I went to the thread for it n read those comments. It says its available in market place but doesn't showbup when I go there.
demandarin said:
It says only for Android 2.2 or 2.3. Plus it hasn't been updated in the longest time. Read some comments of how it eats up battery and somehow messing up the memory partitions or something. Not sure. I went to the thread for it n read those comments. It says its available in market place but doesn't showbup when I go there.
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Maybe they're working on a ICS version **cross my fingers**
But if you want the current version download it from the market using the browser from your PC or android device.. it shows up there, I just tried.
Weird it doesn't show from the market app.
gl to sd
If you are rooted
use it
love it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1328053
Just install apk
launch data download stop download
open gl to sd make sure /sdcard/Andriod and /sdcar/data are checked marked
click recovery game list
click move data and select game to move it will launch and start the download to sd.
Only downside i have seen is when some one pick up my tablet and click on app and start download on internal due to the fact they dont use the gl to sd link.
I love this app 9mm, lets golf 3, and Back stab and original DH take up over 4 GB of space and i rather have them on sd then internal
Today I got a 32 GB, SanDisk Micro SDCard, mainly for the use with Google Music (I have a 7,200+ library). However, I didn't find a source which had a solid solution, to at least have Google Music use the external sd card. So, I just messed around with it, and I found out how to Swap (reverse) the sd card 'locations', properly.
In vold.fstab, in the directory /system/etc/, you have two lines. Edit them with Root explorer's included "text editor", or any other good text editor. Make sure you have r/w on. Find the below two lines:
Code:
# external sd card
dev_mount sdcard_ext /mnt/sdcard-ext:none:lun1 auto /devices/platform/tegra-sdhci.2/mmc_host/mmc3 /devices/platform/tegra-sdhci.2/mmc_host/mmc1
and
Code:
# internal eMMC
dev_mount sdcard /mnt/sdcard 18 /devices/platform/tegra-sdhci.3/mmc_host/mmc0
What I did, and what proved successful (to use both internal, and external storage, which are reversed), is this:
Code:
# external sd card
dev_mount sdcard_ext [COLOR="Red"]/mnt/sdcard[/COLOR]:none:lun1 auto /devices/platform/tegra-sdhci.2/mmc_host/mmc3 /devices/platform/tegra-sdhci.2/mmc_host/mmc1
and
Code:
# internal eMMC
dev_mount sdcard [COLOR="Red"]/mnt/sdcard-ext[/COLOR] 18 /devices/platform/tegra-sdhci.3/mmc_host/mmc0
Replace the regular lines, with the red lines, save, restart your phone, and BAM, your internal is now marked as external, and your external, is now your internal
I use Stock 154_5, Unlocked, rooted.
Enjoy, and press the thanks button
Also, you can revert them back, if you changed them. Just put the stock code back into the file.
Also, I just discovered:
You can only use the internal storage, when connecting to a computer. The 'internal' (which, we switched around), will not be detected. If you do connect your device to a computer, after you disconnect it, the 'internal', storage, which is really the external, because we switched it, will not be detected, and you must restart your phone.
I'll test this on MIUI. I have the 64GB version. Same problem.
ZeroManArmy said:
I'll test this on MIUI. I have the 64GB version. Same problem.
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Cool. Let me know if it works. Yeah, 64 GB only for movies and pictures.... Isn't worth it for me. Lol
What do you have for CM9 or MIUI?
ZeroManArmy said:
What do you have for CM9 or MIUI?
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I use Stock 154_5, Unlocked, rooted.
URGENT,
i am using samsung galaxy note device , i have follow your instruction to change the vold.hstab file.
Now my device has recognize my ext sd card as sdcard. But my device cant recognise my internal sdcard, so i have lose my root explorer. and I couldn't reedit the vold.hstab file back.
I have try to hardreset, and try to reinstall root explorer, but it always give an restart and error : "process.media force close "
From my understanding the failure of installing the root explorer because my device can't recognise sdcard anymore
I go to setting--> storage , I found the sdcard is not detected, only usb storage detected
how to solve this problem?
n1cky6969 said:
URGENT,
i am using samsung galaxy note device , i have follow your instruction to change the vold.hstab file.
Now my device has recognize my ext sd card as sdcard. But my device cant recognise my internal sdcard, so i have lose my root explorer. and I couldn't reedit the vold.hstab file back.
I have try to hardreset, and try to reinstall root explorer, but it always give an restart and error : "process.media force close "
From my understanding the failure of installing the root explorer because my device can't recognise sdcard anymore
I go to setting--> storage , I found the sdcard is not detected, only usb storage detected
how to solve this problem?
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Well your problem is because, this is for the Photon 4G. Not the Note. Have you tried other File managers, such as Antek?
D2dyno said:
Well your problem is because, this is for the Photon 4G. Not the Note. Have you tried other File managers, such as Antek?
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Anyhow, It is impossible to install any applications, if try to install,device will restart
But, it's okay now, I have reflash my rom, all the problem solved
Thanks for your responds
n1cky6969 said:
Anyhow, It is impossible to install any applications, if try to install,device will restart
But, it's okay now, I have reflash my rom, all the problem solved
Thanks for your responds
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No problem, and I'm glad to help.
Man am I happy I came across this thread!!!
I've been reading forever in some of the rom threads for an answer to this question! A few of the roms I've tried out had the internal and external storage swapped with no option to switch and that kept me from using them because I use internal storage for apps data and such and then my external memory card for backups and personal files!
The only 2 roms that this can be fixed in is jokers CM9-unofficial-ICS rom (there is actually an Advanced Option in Settings) and the MIUI.us port (there is a storage mod flashable swap, which didn't work for me, and there is an option in the Aroma installer to choose what you want for Internal Storage).
Now that I've come across this, imma try it out and see if I can't get it to work on some other roms I have used!
Thanks for the discovery! I'll let ya know how it works out for me!
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Jleeblanch said:
Man am I happy I came across this thread!!!
I've been reading forever in some of the rom threads for an answer to this question! A few of the roms I've tried out had the internal and external storage swapped with no option to switch and that kept me from using them because I use internal storage for apps data and such and then my external memory card for backups and personal files!
The only 2 roms that this can be fixed in is jokers CM9-unofficial-ICS rom (there is actually an Advanced Option in Settings) and the MIUI.us port (there is a storage mod flashable swap, which didn't work for me, and there is an option in the Aroma installer to choose what you want for Internal Storage).
Now that I've come across this, imma try it out and see if I can't get it to work on some other roms I have used!
Thanks for the discovery! I'll let ya know how it works out for me!
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Glad to hear! ICS ROMs handle external SD cards way better, so I prefer them now.
D2dyno said:
Glad to hear! ICS ROMs handle external SD cards way better, so I prefer them now.
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I hear you there! The ICS roms rock! Jokers ICS rom has been my favorite due to the option to switch to use Internal memory for apps/app data. The other CM9 variants (AOKP/AOKPCB) had it default to use external memory as storage for apps/app data with NO option to swap. Now that I came across this, when my battery is a little better than 37% lol, imma do your mentioned edits!
Only difference from what I see from stock is that instead of "sdcard-ext" its "emmc". My current setup has "emmc" set as sdcard-ext (external storage) and sdcard as, well sdcard (internal storage) lol.
My issue has been that those have been swapped where "emmc" = internal storage and "sdcard" = external storage. With it being that way, it makes it a PIA to restore from Titanium Backup.
But this is all a thing of the past haha
I'm glad I'm not scared to read (like I feel like a lot of users are). I've seen a lot of posts where ppl were asking about how to swap the storage locations with no solid answers. Granted I didn't come across this solution immediately either...BUT I did and I plan to link to this thread and give you props in hopes that others find this useful as I know others are definitely having the same issue!
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I just successfully tested this on the AOKPCB from and it worked perfectly! Not gonna lie, that makes me VERY happy!!
Maybe everyone typing thanks could actually "THANK" this person?
Works on tablet
Ok tried this on a cheap tablet that I bought for playing around like this. An Arnova AN 7G3 7" with 4gb memory, 2 gb internal and 2gb internal sdcard. It was close to your file, all I had to change was sdcard and extsd. Before I did the switch and after seeing someone had trouble with apks after the switch, I made sure to move all apks to tablet, then copied all folders from sd to extsd. I also made a copy of the orignial vold file, just incase. Changed vold file rebooted and everything was great. Made a copy of altered vold file, then replaced with orignial and rebooted.....all still ok, replaced file with altered file and rebooted ,again all ok. Moved all apks that I could move to sdcard from tablet, free up 650mg on tablet. All moved apks worked fine.
AN 7 G3 is rooted out box runing stock ICS 4.0.1
Thanks for the info
ALD3 said:
F theOk tried this on a cheap tablet that I bought for playing around like this. An Arnova AN 7G3 7" with 4gb memory, 2 gb internal and 2gb internal sdcard. It was close to your file, all I had to change was sdcard and extsd. Before I did the switch and after seeing someone had trouble with apks after the switch, I made sure to move all apks to tablet, then copied all folders from sd to extsd. I also made a copy of the orignial vold file, just incase. Changed vold file rebooted and everything was great. Made a copy of altered vold file, then replaced with orignial and rebooted.....all still ok, replaced file with altered file and rebooted ,again all ok. Moved all apks that I could move to sdcard from tablet, free up 650mg on tablet. All moved apks worked fine.
AN 7 G3 is rooted out box runing stock ICS 4.0.1
Thanks for the info
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Glad to hear it works on more than just GB
Thanks
D2dyno said:
Glad to hear it works on more than just GB
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Thanks as I have been trying to find info for months. I posted in Arnova section of Arctablet news on how to do this tablet and a heads up and Thanks to YOU as well as a link to your work here. Hope you don't mind and did give credit to YOU. Check it out when you have time
http://www.arctablet.com/blog/forum...n-7-g3-recognize-you-micro-sd-as-internal-sd/
Just saw this topic and I have a (noob) question.
Does this work on any android phone or it's specific for this Moto one?
Hi,
I have a quick question about something I've noticed (and can't seem to find a thread on this in the Q&A). Behavior I've noticed/seen is that when ever I install an AOSP rom, it only appears to use my external sd card (/mnt/sdcard/ext_sd), but ignores the 10GB internal memory card (mnt/sdcard). If i use any "sense based" rom - like EclipticRez.....I can use/leverage both.....so I "don't think" it's a formatting issue...as right now i have full access to both SD cards. I recently jumped and installed Rage 3.0 when I found out that bluetooth has been fixed [Squeals with delight....], but when it wasn't accessing the internal 10GB i restored back.
I'm hoping someone can point me in the right direction and fix this before i install Rage 3.1 as soon as its available.
Thanks,
Rez
HTC Rezound - Rooted & S-OFF! :highfive:
Firmware: Stock hboot 2.27; Amon Ra Vigor [v3.15]; Baseband 2.22.10.0801r / 2.22.10.0803r
ROM: EclipticRez
Kernel: Funky Kernel
Previous Rezound ROMS: Scotts CleanROM Developer Edition [V1.4] , CounterShrike, Anything by Neo
AOSP maps internal to /emmc.
Rezinator said:
Hi,
I have a quick question about something I've noticed (and can't seem to find a thread on this in the Q&A). Behavior I've noticed/seen is that when ever I install an AOSP rom, it only appears to use my external sd card (/mnt/sdcard/ext_sd), but ignores the 10GB internal memory card (mnt/sdcard). If i use any "sense based" rom - like EclipticRez.....I can use/leverage both.....so I "don't think" it's a formatting issue...as right now i have full access to both SD cards. I recently jumped and installed Rage 3.0 when I found out that bluetooth has been fixed [Squeals with delight....], but when it wasn't accessing the internal 10GB i restored back.
I'm hoping someone can point me in the right direction and fix this before i install Rage 3.1 as soon as its available.
Thanks,
Rez
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ROM: EclipticRez
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Previous Rezound ROMS: Scotts CleanROM Developer Edition [V1.4] , CounterShrike, Anything by Neo
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Im having a similar issue. Mine is being mounted but unable to access it from any apps or computer besides root explorer. I was reading somewhere that because a sense rom will mount it as a sd cards and AOSP mounts it as EMMC and jumping between the roms can cause issues. The fix was suppose to be do a complete wipe on the phone (factory rest, wipe data, system..ect) and the reinstall. Well i did that and still doesnt fix the issue, if i find a fix for mine ill let you know if your still having problems
clmowers said:
Im having a similar issue. Mine is being mounted but unable to access it from any apps or computer besides root explorer. I was reading somewhere that because a sense rom will mount it as a sd cards and AOSP mounts it as EMMC and jumping between the roms can cause issues. The fix was suppose to be do a complete wipe on the phone (factory rest, wipe data, system..ect) and the reinstall. Well i did that and still doesnt fix the issue, if i find a fix for mine ill let you know if your still having problems
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Shrike - I saw that you posted this in the Infection thread. (which matches your response above)
>>AOSP mounts internal as /emmc and external as /sdcard.
I see that now. Is there a thread I need to read or something I need to do so that AOSP/Infection will leverage the 10GB that is on internal drive? It seems like "out of the box" AOSP/Infection/.... ignore /emmc...
SD Maid shows
/storage/sdcard1 = /emmc [10GB]
/storage/sdcard0 = /sdcard [32GB]
Non-AOSP does this "automatically" [from what I saw]....I use the internal 10GB for all the installs...then use my 32GB removable SD card for my media and backups only.
Thanks!!
Rez
Rezinator said:
Shrike - I saw that you posted this in the Infection thread. (which matches your response above)
>>AOSP mounts internal as /emmc and external as /sdcard.
I see that now. Is there a thread I need to read or something I need to do so that AOSP/Infection will leverage the 10GB that is on internal drive? It seems like "out of the box" AOSP/Infection/.... ignore /emmc...
SD Maid shows
/storage/sdcard1 = /emmc [10GB]
/storage/sdcard0 = /sdcard [32GB]
Non-AOSP does this "automatically" [from what I saw]....I use the internal 10GB for all the installs...then use my 32GB removable SD card for my media and backups only.
Thanks!!
Rez
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with sense you can choose where your data is saved. AOSP does not offer this. you get to set it to internal or external thats it. you might be able to find an app that will let you store media and backups to sd and the rest to internal but i havent seen one.
for backups from recovery, if you use TWRP you can have backup save to sd card. for app backups titanium offer this too.
synisterwolf said:
with sense you can choose where your data is saved. AOSP does not offer this. you get to set it to internal or external thats it. you might be able to find an app that will let you store media and backups to sd and the rest to internal but i havent seen one.
for backups from recovery, if you use TWRP you can have backup save to sd card. for app backups titanium offer this too.
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So are you saying that on AOSP you can set everything to either internal or external but no mix and match? So you pick either internal or external and that's it?
What happens if you put all your music on external but want your apps to install to internal? Will you still be able to read/listen to the music files while having apps install onto the internal?
I was just thinking of trying out Infected AOSP but I don't know if AOSP is right for me then.
synisterwolf said:
with sense you can choose where your data is saved. AOSP does not offer this. you get to set it to internal or external thats it. you might be able to find an app that will let you store media and backups to sd and the rest to internal but i havent seen one.
for backups from recovery, if you use TWRP you can have backup save to sd card. for app backups titanium offer this too.
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where is the option to set it to ext or internal?
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So are you saying that on AOSP you can set everything to either internal or external but no mix and match? So you pick either internal or external and that's it?
What happens if you put all your music on external but want your apps to install to internal? Will you still be able to read/listen to the music files while having apps install onto the internal?
I was just thinking of trying out Infected AOSP but I don't know if AOSP is right for me then.
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Yes and no.. For example on mine everything is saved to the external but I save my music to the internal. Power amp is able to pull from the internal card so all my music is playable I think what he meant was you can either have apps save to the external or internal not both. On a sense ROM you can change the location of where the app is saving its data to external or internal
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where is the option to set it to ext or internal?
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for nandoirds yes.
for the os its not as simple you will need to edit your void.fstab
synisterwolf said:
for nandoirds yes.
for the os its not as simple you will need to edit your void.fstab
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Is it as easy as editing the vold.fstab? This what I have currently.
# internal sdcarddev_mount emmc /storage/sdcard1 38 /devices/platform/msm_sdcc.1/mmc_host/mmc0 nonremovable,encryptable# external sdcard
dev_mount sdcard /storage/sdcard0 auto /devices/platform/msm_sdcc.3/mmc_host/mmc2
If I change/edit it to whats below, will it work?
# internal sdcard
dev_mount emmc /storage/sdcard0 auto /devices/platform/msm_sdcc.3/mmc_host/mmc2 nonremovable,encryptable
# external sdcard
dev_mount sdcard /storage/sdcard1 38 /devices/platform/msm_sdcc.1/mmc_host/mmc0
I just guessed that the nonremovable,encryptable part should stay with the internal sdcard. I have no idea what this will do so if anyone sees anything wrong please let me know!
Also I don't care what the sdcards are called in a file explorer. When on a CM9 ROM I used a zip that made the external sd show up as emmc in root explorer. The same zip doesn't work on 10.1 but it did on 10.
EDIT: I tried this for the hell of it and absolutely nothing changed! I guess I should change it back but I am shocked that something didn't break. I really have no idea what I'm doing!
I was on JB but I didn't like how the internal/external storage was, everything went to the internal so I would run out of space quickly. So I wanted to get back on Sense where the storage issue was not a problem. I followed this guide [Guide] How to Downgrade, Factory Restore, and fully update the Rezound, I'm now rooted on stock 4.03.605.2 710RD.
REV3NT3CH, helped me out a lot but still having some questions.
1. What is the most stable Sense rom out with the best mods? Haven't been on Sense in a while so I've forgotten what is out there.
2. How can I tell if my storage issues are fixed? What should my storage look like on Sense, what folders should I be seeing.
Thanks for the help...
-mac
xXezmacXx said:
I was on JB but I didn't like how the internal/external storage was, everything went to the internal so I would run out of space quickly. So I wanted to get back on Sense where the storage issue was not a problem. I followed this guide [Guide] How to Downgrade, Factory Restore, and fully update the Rezound, I'm now rooted on stock 4.03.605.2 710RD.
REV3NT3CH, helped me out a lot but still having some questions.
1. What is the most stable Sense rom out with the best mods? Haven't been on Sense in a while so I've forgotten what is out there.
2. How can I tell if my storage issues are fixed? What should my storage look like on Sense, what folders should I be seeing.
Thanks for the help...
-mac
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when you go to take a picture does it say internal storade or sd card not found...if not you are golden....also as for best sense rom there is a couple...depends on if you want a desensed sense rom or a full on sense rom...desensed is much faster but still uses the stock sense dependencies and is in no way shape or form aosp
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when you go to take a picture does it say internal storade or sd card not found...if not you are golden....also as for best sense rom there is a couple...depends on if you want a desensed sense rom or a full on sense rom...desensed is much faster but still uses the stock sense dependencies and is in no way shape or form aosp
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i took a picture and there was no error. i went into settings > storage and there wher 2 options, phone storage & storage card.
anyways, i attached some screenshots of my internal and external, can you let me know what these mean? mnt, sdcard. sdcard 2, ext_sd? since im back on sense now, say if i download game will it now go to my 64gb sd card instead of internal like it did on jellybean? when i was on jb everything went to internal. anyways, i wiped internal and external like you said in amon ra, hopefully this fixes everything.
im guessing sdcard = my rezounds 10gb internal. sdcard 2 = my 64gb external sdcard. what is mnt and ext_sd? if ext_sd is my external sdcard why do i have two paths to it?
and i just installed a game i bought a while back, wanted to see where it installed: im confused on the numbers of internal, phone storage, etc. it says the game 40mb was put on sdcard but i dont see it. i dont want large apps and games left on my phones storage, id like to use my 64gb sdcard, reason i bought it.
do i need to partition my external sdcard or something? i dont see my ext sdcard anywhere below.
xXezmacXx said:
i took a picture and there was no error. i went into settings > storage and there wher 2 options, phone storage & storage card.
anyways, i attached some screenshots of my internal and external, can you let me know what these mean? mnt, sdcard. sdcard 2, ext_sd? since im back on sense now, say if i download game will it now go to my 64gb sd card instead of internal like it did on jellybean? when i was on jb everything went to internal. anyways, i wiped internal and external like you said in amon ra, hopefully this fixes everything.
im guessing sdcard = my rezounds 10gb internal. sdcard 2 = my 64gb external sdcard. what is mnt and ext_sd? if ext_sd is my external sdcard why do i have two paths to it?
and i just installed a game i bought a while back, wanted to see where it installed: im confused on the numbers of internal, phone storage, etc. it says the game 40mb was put on sdcard but i dont see it. i dont want large apps and games left on my phones storage, id like to use my 64gb sdcard, reason i bought it.
do i need to partition my external sdcard or something? i dont see my ext sdcard anywhere below.
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with all apps they usually store in internal under system/data....if you want that pushed to external you have to get an app that does that like apps2sd....this is default for any android....also its showing the ext_sd while in sdcard because it mounts to it for lets say that apps2sd and some apps even require and make the directory if needed for easier transfering...if you notice in main root directory it only shows sdcard1 and sdcard 2 just like it should
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with all apps they usually store in internal under system/data....if you want that pushed to external you have to get an app that does that like apps2sd....this is default for any android....also its showing the ext_sd while in sdcard because it mounts to it for lets say that apps2sd and some apps even require and make the directory if needed for easier transfering...if you notice in main root directory it only shows sdcard1 and sdcard 2 just like it should
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should i partition my sdcard? like it is telling me to do.is app2sd the best for this?
xXezmacXx said:
should i partition my sdcard? like it is telling me to do.is app2sd the best for this?
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You have a separate 1.7 GB partition that downloaded apps go to, that doesn't count against the 12GB or so of Internal SD. I wouldn't worry about moving apps to the SD card unless you're filling that 1.7 GB up. If you do fill it up, go through your apps in Settings and use the built in move to SD on any app that it's not grayed out on. Don't move any apps with active widgets or that start on boot.
mjones73 said:
You have a separate 1.7 GB partition that downloaded apps go to, that doesn't count against the 12GB or so of Internal SD. I wouldn't worry about moving apps to the SD card unless you're filling that 1.7 GB up. If you do fill it up, go through your apps in Settings and use the built in move to SD on any app that it's not grayed out on. Don't move any apps with active widgets or that start on boot.
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I'll use that up quickly. I just installed this 40gb game for my son, it says the apk is 40mb and that's it located in /mnt/asec/. What is mnt, is that apk stored on my internal? And how can I get it on my ext sdcard if so? I bought some games that are 300mb+, some even a 1gb. I want to use ny 64gb ext sdcard, whole reason I bought it, want to keep internal free. I have like 12 games and 20+apps that will surely take up all my internal when I re d/l them. By the way I did go into settings and hit the move to sdcard box.
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xXezmacXx said:
I'll use that up quickly. I just installed this 40gb game for my son, it says the apk is 40mb and that's it located in /mnt/asec/. What is mnt? And how can I get in on my ext sdcard? I.bought some games that are 300mb+, some even a 1gb. I want to use ny 64gb ext sdcard, whole reason I bought it, want to keep internal free. I have like 12 games and 20+apps that will surely take up all my internal when I re d/l them.
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You can try the Move to SD option, it's up to the developer of the app to configure what can/can't move to SD using that option though. In the case of the app you listed, the .apk part is in the DRM protected app folder and that'll never move off the internal storage using the built in method. If you find that option isn't cutting it, you need to switch to using an apps2SD method where you can move everything.
/mnt is just the mount point for all filesystems regardless of what hardware they are on.
http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/mnt.html
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You can try the Move to SD option, it's up to the developer of the app to configure what can/can't move to SD using that option though. In the case of the app you listed, the .apk part is in the DRM protected app folder and that'll never move off the internal storage using the built in method. If you find that option isn't cutting it, you need to switch to using an apps2SD method where you can move everything.
/mnt is just the mount point for all filesystems regardless of what hardware they are on.
http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/mnt.html
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I did try the rezounds move to sd option. Maybe I'm doing it wrong. I went into settings - device - apps. I believe the game is already moved b/c it has the "move to phone" button available.
When I click "move to phone" it changes to the ss below, now a "move to phone storage" button is available.
What do these storage terms mean, ex; USB storage app? What's the diff between move to phone and move to phone storage? Im guessing I need to try an apps2sd application, but which one? Could you recommend some, don't mind paying. Also, won't I need to partition my ext sdcard for apps2sd to work, just asking cause all these apps I see talk about partitioning your ext sdcard.
Btw, thanks for all the help I'm starting to understand this a lot better, much appreciated.
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Apps in the Rezound exist in either the data partition (Phone storage) or the internal Storage (Storage)... apps cannot be moved to the SD card normally with the embedded Settings->Apps tool.
This is usually enough though, it is rare that you would run out space but if you were going to use something that moves the apps to the actual SD card, I would suggest Link2SD... it requires partitioning the SD card and making the secondary partition an Ext3/4 partition, it moves the data to the Ext3/4 partition of the SD Card and creates symbolic links back to the original places, even allowing Widgets and startup apps to be reside on the SD card. It does involve a little finesse if you have to factory default or install a new ROM though. I used to use it all the time on my old HTC Aria, which had about 256M for app storage and it worked brilliantly.
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Apps in the Rezound exist in either the data partition (Phone storage) or the internal Storage (Storage)... apps cannot be moved to the SD card normally with the embedded Settings->Apps tool.
This is usually enough though, it is rare that you would run out space but if you were going to use something that moves the apps to the actual SD card, I would suggest Link2SD... it requires partitioning the SD card and making the secondary partition an Ext3/4 partition, it moves the data to the Ext3/4 partition of the SD Card and creates symbolic links back to the original places, even allowing Widgets and startup apps to be reside on the SD card. It does involve a little finesse if you have to factory default or install a new ROM though. I used to use it all the time on my old HTC Aria, which had about 256M for app storage and it worked brilliantly.
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That's the one thing I wasn't sure of, is it using the Internal or External SD when doing the move to SD option, if it's Internal, forget what I said and just use Link2SD, should be a guide online how to use it.
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That's the one thing I wasn't sure of, is it using the Internal or External SD when doing the move to SD option, if it's Internal, forget what I said and just use Link2SD, should be a guide online how to use it.
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Start here: http://www.link2sd.info and here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=919326
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Start here: http://www.link2sd.info and here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=919326
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I read through the "What you need for linking applications:" from that xda thread. I;m going to follow it to the T, hopefully it'll work for my Rezound. Thanks for the info.
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That's the one thing I wasn't sure of, is it using the Internal or External SD when doing the move to SD option, if it's Internal, forget what I said and just use Link2SD, should be a guide online how to use it.
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I'm trying to use that Mini Partition application but I have no idea what I'm doing, these directions aren't really detailed. I'm been trying to figure this out for hours now. I'm going nuts!
xXezmacXx said:
I'm trying to use that Mini Partition application but I have no idea what I'm doing, these directions aren't really detailed. I'm been trying to figure this out for hours now. I'm going nuts!
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I always use Partition Magic or EaseUS Partition Manager, but why don't you just partition it in TWRP? It is under Advanced... Set the Swap size to 0 and the EXT size to whatever you want, I always used 2GB (2048) on my Aria but you could use whatever you feel is appropriate, and your choice of partition types and swipe to partition. Then reboot and setup Link2SD. Remember you will lose everything on your SD card, so make sure to back it up to a PC or something.
EDIT: I have not done this on the Rezound, so I am assuming it will work fine, but I don't know anyone who has done it on this device since the embedded space is usually more than sufficient.
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I always use Partition Magic or EaseUS Partition Manager, but why don't you just partition it in TWRP? It is under Advanced... Set the Swap size to 0 and the EXT size to whatever you want, I always used 2GB (2048) on my Aria but you could use whatever you feel is appropriate, and your choice of partition types and swipe to partition. Then reboot and setup Link2SD. Remember you will lose everything on your SD card, so make sure to back it up to a PC or something.
EDIT: I have not done this on the Rezound, so I am assuming it will work fine, but I don't know anyone who has done it on this device since the embedded space is usually more than sufficient.
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Ok ill use twrp just gotta flash it. For the ext do I select ext 2 3 or 4? Also, is the ext where the apps will be moved to? I have a 64gb card can I make the ext 15-20gb or higher?
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Ok ill use twrp just gotta flash it. For the ext do I select ext 2 3 or 4? Also, is the ext where the apps will be moved to? I have a 64gb card can I make the ext 15-20gb or higher?
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Use Ext3 or 4, in this situation you won't notice any difference in performance between the two, at one time 3 was considered to be more stable and I use it most of the time but I don't know if it makes any difference anymore. You will not run into the size limitations in those partition types, I believe its in the upper terabyte range . To make it easy and have nice round numbers I always do it in increments of 512 though, so 16384 would probably be appropriate and give you 16 gigabytes of space.
I gotta ask though, what do you need so much application space for? are you running thousands and thousands of apps? The reason I ask is most apps automatically move their data to the SD card if they are very large, like most games and the advantages you see by using a tool like this can be minimal if you're using lots of very large games.
EDIT: one thing to keep in mind that might be confusing the first few times you use this application, the objective is to link the applications, not move. It seems counter intuitive but if you move them you're defeating the purpose and not gaining much, you need to use the link options.
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Use Ext3 or 4, in this situation you won't notice any difference in performance between the two, at one time 3 was considered to be more stable and I use it most of the time but I don't know if it makes any difference anymore. You will not run into the size limitations in those partition types, I believe its in the upper terabyte range . To make it easy and have nice round numbers I always do it in increments of 512 though, so 16384 would probably be appropriate and give you 16 gigabytes of space.
I gotta ask though, what do you need so much application space for? are you running thousands and thousands of apps? The reason I ask is most apps automatically move their data to the SD card if they are very large, like most games and the advantages you see by using a tool like this can be minimal if you're using lots of very large games.
EDIT: one thing to keep in mind that might be confusing the first few times you use this application, the objective is to link the applications, not move. It seems counter intuitive but if you move them you're defeating the purpose and not gaining much, you need to use the link options.
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When I get home tonight I will follow your directions on partitioning with twrp. You've been more than helpful, thank you.
To your ?. I use the phone and so does my son. I must of purchased 30+ games this month alone, and apps, well too many to count. I also use it to to store my 5000+ mp3s and movies for my son.
Edit: for example I just downloaded rayman fiesta run and the files it downloaded arent on my external. And when I JB all games were slow, lagged a lot. Now I'm back on sense everything is smooth.
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When I get home tonight I will follow your directions on partitioning with twrp. You've been more than helpful, thank you.
To your ?. I use the phone and so does my son. I must of purchased 30+ games this month alone, and apps, well too many to count. I also use it to to store my 5000+ mp3s and movies for my son.
Edit: for example I just downloaded rayman fiesta run and the files it downloaded arent on my external. And when I JB all games were slow, lagged a lot. Now I'm back on sense everything is smooth.
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just curious...on JB roms....did you force gpu rendering in dev options.....it will cause that....i run avabel on jellybean....which need i remind you is a very power and graphic hungry game....and runs fine
xXezmacXx said:
When I get home tonight I will follow your directions on partitioning with twrp. You've been more than helpful, thank you.
To your ?. I use the phone and so does my son. I must of purchased 30+ games this month alone, and apps, well too many to count. I also use it to to store my 5000+ mp3s and movies for my son.
Edit: for example I just downloaded rayman fiesta run and the files it downloaded arent on my external. And when I JB all games were slow, lagged a lot. Now I'm back on sense everything is smooth.
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5000 MP3's?!?! I used to go that, just uploaded them all (plus around 10,000 more) to Play Music and use the cloud now since I have WiFi 95% of the time when I play music.
Games will not use your EXTERNAL storage, but most of them install the core of app in the phones app storage area (the 2GB portion) and their data on the internal storage (the ~11GB area). Most of the ones I have do that, for example, Mechs Warfare takes about 80MB of storage in the app data partition, but uses about 450MB of internal storage.
If you have a lot of games that do this, Link2SD, Move2SD, and other similar tools may not help much, all they will do is move the application data to the external storage, but the app controls it's own data being installed on the "sdcard", which is the internal storage. In most of those applications there is no way to tell it to use the external card and there is no way to move the data without swapping mount points between the internal and external storage.