I was on JB but I didn't like how the internal/external storage was, everything went to the internal so I would run out of space quickly. So I wanted to get back on Sense where the storage issue was not a problem. I followed this guide [Guide] How to Downgrade, Factory Restore, and fully update the Rezound, I'm now rooted on stock 4.03.605.2 710RD.
REV3NT3CH, helped me out a lot but still having some questions.
1. What is the most stable Sense rom out with the best mods? Haven't been on Sense in a while so I've forgotten what is out there.
2. How can I tell if my storage issues are fixed? What should my storage look like on Sense, what folders should I be seeing.
Thanks for the help...
-mac
xXezmacXx said:
I was on JB but I didn't like how the internal/external storage was, everything went to the internal so I would run out of space quickly. So I wanted to get back on Sense where the storage issue was not a problem. I followed this guide [Guide] How to Downgrade, Factory Restore, and fully update the Rezound, I'm now rooted on stock 4.03.605.2 710RD.
REV3NT3CH, helped me out a lot but still having some questions.
1. What is the most stable Sense rom out with the best mods? Haven't been on Sense in a while so I've forgotten what is out there.
2. How can I tell if my storage issues are fixed? What should my storage look like on Sense, what folders should I be seeing.
Thanks for the help...
-mac
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when you go to take a picture does it say internal storade or sd card not found...if not you are golden....also as for best sense rom there is a couple...depends on if you want a desensed sense rom or a full on sense rom...desensed is much faster but still uses the stock sense dependencies and is in no way shape or form aosp
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when you go to take a picture does it say internal storade or sd card not found...if not you are golden....also as for best sense rom there is a couple...depends on if you want a desensed sense rom or a full on sense rom...desensed is much faster but still uses the stock sense dependencies and is in no way shape or form aosp
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i took a picture and there was no error. i went into settings > storage and there wher 2 options, phone storage & storage card.
anyways, i attached some screenshots of my internal and external, can you let me know what these mean? mnt, sdcard. sdcard 2, ext_sd? since im back on sense now, say if i download game will it now go to my 64gb sd card instead of internal like it did on jellybean? when i was on jb everything went to internal. anyways, i wiped internal and external like you said in amon ra, hopefully this fixes everything.
im guessing sdcard = my rezounds 10gb internal. sdcard 2 = my 64gb external sdcard. what is mnt and ext_sd? if ext_sd is my external sdcard why do i have two paths to it?
and i just installed a game i bought a while back, wanted to see where it installed: im confused on the numbers of internal, phone storage, etc. it says the game 40mb was put on sdcard but i dont see it. i dont want large apps and games left on my phones storage, id like to use my 64gb sdcard, reason i bought it.
do i need to partition my external sdcard or something? i dont see my ext sdcard anywhere below.
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i took a picture and there was no error. i went into settings > storage and there wher 2 options, phone storage & storage card.
anyways, i attached some screenshots of my internal and external, can you let me know what these mean? mnt, sdcard. sdcard 2, ext_sd? since im back on sense now, say if i download game will it now go to my 64gb sd card instead of internal like it did on jellybean? when i was on jb everything went to internal. anyways, i wiped internal and external like you said in amon ra, hopefully this fixes everything.
im guessing sdcard = my rezounds 10gb internal. sdcard 2 = my 64gb external sdcard. what is mnt and ext_sd? if ext_sd is my external sdcard why do i have two paths to it?
and i just installed a game i bought a while back, wanted to see where it installed: im confused on the numbers of internal, phone storage, etc. it says the game 40mb was put on sdcard but i dont see it. i dont want large apps and games left on my phones storage, id like to use my 64gb sdcard, reason i bought it.
do i need to partition my external sdcard or something? i dont see my ext sdcard anywhere below.
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with all apps they usually store in internal under system/data....if you want that pushed to external you have to get an app that does that like apps2sd....this is default for any android....also its showing the ext_sd while in sdcard because it mounts to it for lets say that apps2sd and some apps even require and make the directory if needed for easier transfering...if you notice in main root directory it only shows sdcard1 and sdcard 2 just like it should
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with all apps they usually store in internal under system/data....if you want that pushed to external you have to get an app that does that like apps2sd....this is default for any android....also its showing the ext_sd while in sdcard because it mounts to it for lets say that apps2sd and some apps even require and make the directory if needed for easier transfering...if you notice in main root directory it only shows sdcard1 and sdcard 2 just like it should
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should i partition my sdcard? like it is telling me to do.is app2sd the best for this?
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should i partition my sdcard? like it is telling me to do.is app2sd the best for this?
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You have a separate 1.7 GB partition that downloaded apps go to, that doesn't count against the 12GB or so of Internal SD. I wouldn't worry about moving apps to the SD card unless you're filling that 1.7 GB up. If you do fill it up, go through your apps in Settings and use the built in move to SD on any app that it's not grayed out on. Don't move any apps with active widgets or that start on boot.
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You have a separate 1.7 GB partition that downloaded apps go to, that doesn't count against the 12GB or so of Internal SD. I wouldn't worry about moving apps to the SD card unless you're filling that 1.7 GB up. If you do fill it up, go through your apps in Settings and use the built in move to SD on any app that it's not grayed out on. Don't move any apps with active widgets or that start on boot.
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I'll use that up quickly. I just installed this 40gb game for my son, it says the apk is 40mb and that's it located in /mnt/asec/. What is mnt, is that apk stored on my internal? And how can I get it on my ext sdcard if so? I bought some games that are 300mb+, some even a 1gb. I want to use ny 64gb ext sdcard, whole reason I bought it, want to keep internal free. I have like 12 games and 20+apps that will surely take up all my internal when I re d/l them. By the way I did go into settings and hit the move to sdcard box.
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I'll use that up quickly. I just installed this 40gb game for my son, it says the apk is 40mb and that's it located in /mnt/asec/. What is mnt? And how can I get in on my ext sdcard? I.bought some games that are 300mb+, some even a 1gb. I want to use ny 64gb ext sdcard, whole reason I bought it, want to keep internal free. I have like 12 games and 20+apps that will surely take up all my internal when I re d/l them.
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You can try the Move to SD option, it's up to the developer of the app to configure what can/can't move to SD using that option though. In the case of the app you listed, the .apk part is in the DRM protected app folder and that'll never move off the internal storage using the built in method. If you find that option isn't cutting it, you need to switch to using an apps2SD method where you can move everything.
/mnt is just the mount point for all filesystems regardless of what hardware they are on.
http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/mnt.html
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You can try the Move to SD option, it's up to the developer of the app to configure what can/can't move to SD using that option though. In the case of the app you listed, the .apk part is in the DRM protected app folder and that'll never move off the internal storage using the built in method. If you find that option isn't cutting it, you need to switch to using an apps2SD method where you can move everything.
/mnt is just the mount point for all filesystems regardless of what hardware they are on.
http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/mnt.html
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I did try the rezounds move to sd option. Maybe I'm doing it wrong. I went into settings - device - apps. I believe the game is already moved b/c it has the "move to phone" button available.
When I click "move to phone" it changes to the ss below, now a "move to phone storage" button is available.
What do these storage terms mean, ex; USB storage app? What's the diff between move to phone and move to phone storage? Im guessing I need to try an apps2sd application, but which one? Could you recommend some, don't mind paying. Also, won't I need to partition my ext sdcard for apps2sd to work, just asking cause all these apps I see talk about partitioning your ext sdcard.
Btw, thanks for all the help I'm starting to understand this a lot better, much appreciated.
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Apps in the Rezound exist in either the data partition (Phone storage) or the internal Storage (Storage)... apps cannot be moved to the SD card normally with the embedded Settings->Apps tool.
This is usually enough though, it is rare that you would run out space but if you were going to use something that moves the apps to the actual SD card, I would suggest Link2SD... it requires partitioning the SD card and making the secondary partition an Ext3/4 partition, it moves the data to the Ext3/4 partition of the SD Card and creates symbolic links back to the original places, even allowing Widgets and startup apps to be reside on the SD card. It does involve a little finesse if you have to factory default or install a new ROM though. I used to use it all the time on my old HTC Aria, which had about 256M for app storage and it worked brilliantly.
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Apps in the Rezound exist in either the data partition (Phone storage) or the internal Storage (Storage)... apps cannot be moved to the SD card normally with the embedded Settings->Apps tool.
This is usually enough though, it is rare that you would run out space but if you were going to use something that moves the apps to the actual SD card, I would suggest Link2SD... it requires partitioning the SD card and making the secondary partition an Ext3/4 partition, it moves the data to the Ext3/4 partition of the SD Card and creates symbolic links back to the original places, even allowing Widgets and startup apps to be reside on the SD card. It does involve a little finesse if you have to factory default or install a new ROM though. I used to use it all the time on my old HTC Aria, which had about 256M for app storage and it worked brilliantly.
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That's the one thing I wasn't sure of, is it using the Internal or External SD when doing the move to SD option, if it's Internal, forget what I said and just use Link2SD, should be a guide online how to use it.
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That's the one thing I wasn't sure of, is it using the Internal or External SD when doing the move to SD option, if it's Internal, forget what I said and just use Link2SD, should be a guide online how to use it.
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Start here: http://www.link2sd.info and here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=919326
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Start here: http://www.link2sd.info and here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=919326
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I read through the "What you need for linking applications:" from that xda thread. I;m going to follow it to the T, hopefully it'll work for my Rezound. Thanks for the info.
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That's the one thing I wasn't sure of, is it using the Internal or External SD when doing the move to SD option, if it's Internal, forget what I said and just use Link2SD, should be a guide online how to use it.
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I'm trying to use that Mini Partition application but I have no idea what I'm doing, these directions aren't really detailed. I'm been trying to figure this out for hours now. I'm going nuts!
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I'm trying to use that Mini Partition application but I have no idea what I'm doing, these directions aren't really detailed. I'm been trying to figure this out for hours now. I'm going nuts!
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I always use Partition Magic or EaseUS Partition Manager, but why don't you just partition it in TWRP? It is under Advanced... Set the Swap size to 0 and the EXT size to whatever you want, I always used 2GB (2048) on my Aria but you could use whatever you feel is appropriate, and your choice of partition types and swipe to partition. Then reboot and setup Link2SD. Remember you will lose everything on your SD card, so make sure to back it up to a PC or something.
EDIT: I have not done this on the Rezound, so I am assuming it will work fine, but I don't know anyone who has done it on this device since the embedded space is usually more than sufficient.
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I always use Partition Magic or EaseUS Partition Manager, but why don't you just partition it in TWRP? It is under Advanced... Set the Swap size to 0 and the EXT size to whatever you want, I always used 2GB (2048) on my Aria but you could use whatever you feel is appropriate, and your choice of partition types and swipe to partition. Then reboot and setup Link2SD. Remember you will lose everything on your SD card, so make sure to back it up to a PC or something.
EDIT: I have not done this on the Rezound, so I am assuming it will work fine, but I don't know anyone who has done it on this device since the embedded space is usually more than sufficient.
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Ok ill use twrp just gotta flash it. For the ext do I select ext 2 3 or 4? Also, is the ext where the apps will be moved to? I have a 64gb card can I make the ext 15-20gb or higher?
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Ok ill use twrp just gotta flash it. For the ext do I select ext 2 3 or 4? Also, is the ext where the apps will be moved to? I have a 64gb card can I make the ext 15-20gb or higher?
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Use Ext3 or 4, in this situation you won't notice any difference in performance between the two, at one time 3 was considered to be more stable and I use it most of the time but I don't know if it makes any difference anymore. You will not run into the size limitations in those partition types, I believe its in the upper terabyte range . To make it easy and have nice round numbers I always do it in increments of 512 though, so 16384 would probably be appropriate and give you 16 gigabytes of space.
I gotta ask though, what do you need so much application space for? are you running thousands and thousands of apps? The reason I ask is most apps automatically move their data to the SD card if they are very large, like most games and the advantages you see by using a tool like this can be minimal if you're using lots of very large games.
EDIT: one thing to keep in mind that might be confusing the first few times you use this application, the objective is to link the applications, not move. It seems counter intuitive but if you move them you're defeating the purpose and not gaining much, you need to use the link options.
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Use Ext3 or 4, in this situation you won't notice any difference in performance between the two, at one time 3 was considered to be more stable and I use it most of the time but I don't know if it makes any difference anymore. You will not run into the size limitations in those partition types, I believe its in the upper terabyte range . To make it easy and have nice round numbers I always do it in increments of 512 though, so 16384 would probably be appropriate and give you 16 gigabytes of space.
I gotta ask though, what do you need so much application space for? are you running thousands and thousands of apps? The reason I ask is most apps automatically move their data to the SD card if they are very large, like most games and the advantages you see by using a tool like this can be minimal if you're using lots of very large games.
EDIT: one thing to keep in mind that might be confusing the first few times you use this application, the objective is to link the applications, not move. It seems counter intuitive but if you move them you're defeating the purpose and not gaining much, you need to use the link options.
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When I get home tonight I will follow your directions on partitioning with twrp. You've been more than helpful, thank you.
To your ?. I use the phone and so does my son. I must of purchased 30+ games this month alone, and apps, well too many to count. I also use it to to store my 5000+ mp3s and movies for my son.
Edit: for example I just downloaded rayman fiesta run and the files it downloaded arent on my external. And when I JB all games were slow, lagged a lot. Now I'm back on sense everything is smooth.
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When I get home tonight I will follow your directions on partitioning with twrp. You've been more than helpful, thank you.
To your ?. I use the phone and so does my son. I must of purchased 30+ games this month alone, and apps, well too many to count. I also use it to to store my 5000+ mp3s and movies for my son.
Edit: for example I just downloaded rayman fiesta run and the files it downloaded arent on my external. And when I JB all games were slow, lagged a lot. Now I'm back on sense everything is smooth.
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just curious...on JB roms....did you force gpu rendering in dev options.....it will cause that....i run avabel on jellybean....which need i remind you is a very power and graphic hungry game....and runs fine
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When I get home tonight I will follow your directions on partitioning with twrp. You've been more than helpful, thank you.
To your ?. I use the phone and so does my son. I must of purchased 30+ games this month alone, and apps, well too many to count. I also use it to to store my 5000+ mp3s and movies for my son.
Edit: for example I just downloaded rayman fiesta run and the files it downloaded arent on my external. And when I JB all games were slow, lagged a lot. Now I'm back on sense everything is smooth.
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5000 MP3's?!?! I used to go that, just uploaded them all (plus around 10,000 more) to Play Music and use the cloud now since I have WiFi 95% of the time when I play music.
Games will not use your EXTERNAL storage, but most of them install the core of app in the phones app storage area (the 2GB portion) and their data on the internal storage (the ~11GB area). Most of the ones I have do that, for example, Mechs Warfare takes about 80MB of storage in the app data partition, but uses about 450MB of internal storage.
If you have a lot of games that do this, Link2SD, Move2SD, and other similar tools may not help much, all they will do is move the application data to the external storage, but the app controls it's own data being installed on the "sdcard", which is the internal storage. In most of those applications there is no way to tell it to use the external card and there is no way to move the data without swapping mount points between the internal and external storage.
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From what I understand, the 8GB of internal storage on the DX2 is divided into 2GB for apps, 4.3GB free to do whatever with, and the rest for Android. Right now out the 4.3GB of free storage I have ~800MB unused, which implies I've used 3.5GB. However, when I connect my phone to my PC and scan the contents of that 4.3GB of free storage, it shows that there is only 2.2GB of data on there. Where is the remaining 1.3GB and is there any way I can access/delete it to free up space?
I thought around 2gb was set aside for application storage.
I have no idea how much stuff u have on ur internal storage but u may want to move storage for pictures and.music to external storage..u can just move music files and the DCIM folder to external sd card and reboot which should free up some space...also try clearing cache from stock recovery to see what that frees up if u have never done that...
also in camera app settings to make ur pics store directly to sd card there is a setting for that so u don't have to manually move them...
Hy Drippis Welcome to the forums,
First off let me say if you want to solve a problem with your phone if you follow what ashclepdia says you'll never go wrong he has a great deal of knowledge on these phone's.
Second I never liked this type of labeling system for the storage on this phone.
Third a short explanation of the storage on our phone's.
Our phone has the following, according to VZW and Moto:
- 8GB of internal storage. This breaks down as 2 GB secure memory and 6 GB of usable memory.
- 8GB of external storage which refers to the removable SD card behind the battery.
In the 2 GB lives the Android system files and installed applications with most of their associated data. Some programs are accustomed to using the "sd card" which I will get back to in a minute. You can look at the status of this 2 GB in 2 different ways: 1. Settings - Storage - Application storage, "Available Space"; 2. Settings - Applications - Storage Use - All - Application Storage (on the bottom of the screen).
The 6 GB can be viewed by: 1. Settings - Storage - Internal Storage; 2. Settings - Applications - Storage Use - Media Area.
When you move things to the Media area, you are taking a portion of the installed app from the 2GB and moving it to the 6GB, which is similar to the way in tho older phones, you moved apps to the SD card. So, the question is why do we move apps to the SD card? In older phones there was far less "internal storage" and you would literally run low on memory for apps. New phones have much more space, so unless you are installing lots and lots of apps, it shouldn't be a problem.
With our phone, they have included internal, hard wired, SD Card-like storage, which can be used, mounted/unmounted, just like an external SD Card. The Media Area is simply a folder on this remaining 6 GB area. In some cases, this is automatically done by some apps, for backup purposes or caches.
Hope this is of some value 2u..
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Thanks for the responses. Although informative, they didn't answer my primary question so let me clarify. Not enough storage isn't the problem. I've already set up and moved all my pictures, movies, music, etc. to my 32 GB external sd card. My issue lies with the 4.3 GB of free-to-do-as-you-please storage on the internal sd card.
Out of this 4.3 GB
I've used 2.2 GB
And it says I have .8 GB free
Which leaves 1.3 GB missing
I guess I'll boot into recovery and wipe cache to see if that does much.
Not sure if this matters with regard to this issue, but I had been running P3's pre-rooted GB since I got this phone and earlier this week I flashed Eclipse 1.3 (loving it). I did wipe data before applying the zip.
Drippis said:
Thanks for the responses. Although informative, they didn't answer my primary question so let me clarify. Not enough storage isn't the problem. I've already set up and moved all my pictures, movies, music, etc. to my 32 GB external sd card. My issue lies with the 4.3 GB of free-to-do-as-you-please storage on the internal sd card.
Out of this 4.3 GB
I've used 2.2 GB
And it says I have .8 GB free
Which leaves 1.3 GB missing
I guess I'll boot into recovery and wipe cache to see if that does much.
Not sure if this matters with regard to this issue, but I had been running P3's pre-rooted GB since I got this phone and earlier this week I flashed Eclipse 1.3 (loving it). I did wipe data before applying the zip.
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I CAN say that if u are running 1.3 eclipse on p3s GB u are on the wrong kernel and that may cause some problems ...
not sure if that's what's causing this issue for u or not. .
also when on eclipse the sdcard and internal storage are flip flopped. to see what space u have on internal storage go to settings>storage>sdcard....that is ur internal storage space when on eclipse....
bootstrap does not recognize that flip tho fyi....
my first recommendations is getting on the 2.3.4 kernel by sbf to 2.3.4
if u flashed 1.3 over p3droids rooted gb then u are still on 2.3.3 kernel ..
which can cause issues...since any eclipse 1.0 or later needs u to have the 2.3.4 kernel...only way to change kernel is sbf or OTA update.
there is a sticky on how to sbf in this forum...don't be intimidated...it is very simple...follow instructions ...
edit::: how bout a screenshot of ur storage setting screen and also ur about.phone screen.((screen shot er (or er2) from market works just fine))
Look in a file manager and see if you have a file named ".trash-1000" or something similar. If you are viewing your files on a PC, it will be a hidden folder. See if you have any files in there. When you delete something it creates a .trash folder and keeps it on your storage device like the recycle bin does on your PC. I think its supposed to "empty" itself but may not have. If you have files on there, you can just delete the whole .trash folder. Just a thought.
I know the TFP doesn't come with an external SD card, but in the internal storage theres an SD card partition set to 27GB - however, I don't seem to be able to move any of my apps to the SD card, is there any way to do this?
It's incredibly frustrating when I'm trying to download my Spotify playlists to get the 'not enough memory left to download more songs' message when I've got 25GB free in the SD card partition.
I'm running ICS.
I thought the SD Card partition was just what the directory name for the internal drive? Are the apps not already downloaded to the internal storage to begin with?
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I thought the SD Card partition was just what the directory name for the internal drive? Are the apps not already downloaded to the internal storage to begin with?
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That is what I believe too.
so I see the micro sd card in the file manager so how would you put apps on the micro sd card
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PRIME, w/out a memory card, has all of its memory merged basically. The internal/external is merged for complete use for whatever you want. Inserting a memory card would show up as removable memory or ext2 or something. No need to put to apps to a memory card really unless you running out of memory already.
Weird, I'm not sure why I was getting that message then, since I had 25+ GB free.
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Weird, I'm not sure why I was getting that message then, since I had 25+ GB free.
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Maybe that app needs updating for HC/ICS support. As to why its not recognizing the memory. You could always get a memory card n see if it acts any differently.
Way back on older Android versions and especially phones that had no iinternal memory, android use to have app memory n such separated. ALOT of people became mad because they would run out of memory for apps so fast. SO once phones n tablets came out with built in internal memory, they merged it so that you could use all the memory if you wanted for apps or whatever. PRIME DOES this. Some other devices/phones may be a lil different. ANOTHER reason why Prime doesn't show up as a USB Mass Storage device when hooked up to a computer. Now it uses MTP, I believe.
Install "ZDBox" from XDA Developers.... free from the android market
the tool let you moves apps at will to any location.
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Install "ZDBox" from XDA Developers.... free from the android market
the tool let you moves apps at will to any location.
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It says only for Android 2.2 or 2.3. Plus it hasn't been updated in the longest time. Read some comments of how it eats up battery and somehow messing up the memory partitions or something. Not sure. I went to the thread for it n read those comments. It says its available in market place but doesn't showbup when I go there.
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It says only for Android 2.2 or 2.3. Plus it hasn't been updated in the longest time. Read some comments of how it eats up battery and somehow messing up the memory partitions or something. Not sure. I went to the thread for it n read those comments. It says its available in market place but doesn't showbup when I go there.
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Maybe they're working on a ICS version **cross my fingers**
But if you want the current version download it from the market using the browser from your PC or android device.. it shows up there, I just tried.
Weird it doesn't show from the market app.
gl to sd
If you are rooted
use it
love it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1328053
Just install apk
launch data download stop download
open gl to sd make sure /sdcard/Andriod and /sdcar/data are checked marked
click recovery game list
click move data and select game to move it will launch and start the download to sd.
Only downside i have seen is when some one pick up my tablet and click on app and start download on internal due to the fact they dont use the gl to sd link.
I love this app 9mm, lets golf 3, and Back stab and original DH take up over 4 GB of space and i rather have them on sd then internal
I have a HTC Flyer and have nearly filled up the sdcard memory and would like to use the sdcard2 memory.
The flyer has 16 GB of memory. The 16G of memory is partitioned into 3.9 GB internal partition and a 8.7 GB external partition (sdcard). I also have a 32 GB of exteranal removeable memory (sdcard2). The sdcard is nearly full and the sdcard2 is empty. How do I make use of the sdcard2?
For example I would like to move google play music files from sdcard to sdcard2.
Is there an app that will move the music files? Will the google play music app find the music files on the sdcard2 or is there something I have to do to force the use of the sdcard2?
I can mount the flyer on my PC and find the 2 sdcards and I can move the files from card to card. I'm just not sure if it's that simple and what rules are required as far as paths, etc are required on the sdcard2.
It seems like a simple problem that should have a well documented answer, but I haven't found any information in google searches?
An additional comment. Does the removable 32 GB card need some type of special formatting. I believe the card was format when I purchased it. Last night I erased it in the Flyer. I couldn't find an option to format it in Flyer so I formatted in my PC.
RonD45 said:
I have a HTC Flyer and have nearly filled up the sdcard memory and would like to use the sdcard2 memory.
The flyer has 16 GB of memory. The 16G of memory is partitioned into 3.9 GB internal partition and a 8.7 GB external partition (sdcard). I also have a 32 GB of exteranal removeable memory (sdcard2). The sdcard is nearly full and the sdcard2 is empty. How do I make use of the sdcard2?
For example I would like to move google play music files from sdcard to sdcard2.
Is there an app that will move the music files? Will the google play music app find the music files on the sdcard2 or is there something I have to do to force the use of the sdcard2?
I can mount the flyer on my PC and find the 2 sdcards and I can move the files from card to card. I'm just not sure if it's that simple and what rules are required as far as paths, etc are required on the sdcard2.
It seems like a simple problem that should have a well documented answer, but I haven't found any information in google searches?
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Not sure about the new Google Play app but the older one had no way to choose sdcard2 to store/use files. If they have not built this feature into the app yet than you may have to use a workaround such as this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262
As for just your standard media files (music, videos, pictures) you would like to open via default apps on your tablet, just drag and drop from internal to external via USB or file manager. Doesn't really matter where you put them as long as you can find them. Just create a directory structure that makes sense to you.
RonD45 said:
An additional comment. Does the removable 32 GB card need some type of special formatting. I believe the card was format when I purchased it. Last night I erased it in the Flyer. I couldn't find an option to format it in Flyer so I formatted in my PC.
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If you just use the standard Fat32 format on the PC the card should work just fine.
Thanks for the reply.
I have another question on moving data. The Flyer has an app "locations". It stores all of the points of interest and is about 3 or 4 GB. The points of interest are located at sdcard/.data/navigator/Data/Maps/... Can I just usb drag them to sdcard2/.data/navigator/Data/Maps/... and will the locations/navgator app find the data? I don't understand how the app knows where to look for it's data and use it. Does it just know to look on both sdcards?
Sort of sucks how google messed up the mp3 files in google play music so other music player apps can't find and use them.
I tried moving the locations files it and it said the files were out of date or missing so I guess that didn't work.
My Flyer is box stock. I never took any updates because I was afraid of not being able to root if I took an update (I got burned on the EVO 4G Gingerbread update).
What is the best method to root the Flyer? Is there a ROM that will let me run apps and store there data on the removable SD card? Are you using a custom ROM and do you have a recommended ROM?
RonD45 said:
Thanks for the reply.
I have another question on moving data. The Flyer has an app "locations". It stores all of the points of interest and is about 3 or 4 GB. The points of interest are located at sdcard/.data/navigator/Data/Maps/... Can I just usb drag them to sdcard2/.data/navigator/Data/Maps/... and will the locations/navgator app find the data? I don't understand how the app knows where to look for it's data and use it. Does it just know to look on both sdcards?
Sort of sucks how google messed up the mp3 files in google play music so other music player apps can't find and use them.
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Yep. Can't move that data. The app won't find it unless you can try the link I sent you for that program that re-routes the paths but you will need root to use it.
RonD45 said:
I tried moving the locations files it and it said the files were out of date or missing so I guess that didn't work.
My Flyer is box stock. I never took any updates because I was afraid of not being able to root if I took an update (I got burned on the EVO 4G Gingerbread update).
What is the best method to root the Flyer? Is there a ROM that will let me run apps and store there data on the removable SD card? Are you using a custom ROM and do you have a recommended ROM?
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Keeping data for apps on sdcard2 is going to cause you nothing but trouble. If that card is unmounted you may end up having to re-install all those apps for them to work. As far as I know there is not a rom that will allow this to happen. Only thing I can suggest is to get all the media files you can onto your ext. sdcard to free up some space or start using a cloud service.
If you want to root your Flyer use this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1194709 Make sure you have a qualifying hboot version otherwise you have to do some extra prep work first.
I have the same problem. I'm using a 64gb card and the tablet will not store anything on it. Mine is labeled sd-ext. It act like it needs a2sd installed to work. But that's not possible with out root.
Lame
I mostly use my SD2 card for movies. I'm not really seeing anything that uses it other than the camera, I think (there's a DCIM folder there).
I know on most other (2-sd card) android devices, you can actually switch which sd card is 1 and which is 2 by editing the vold on the device. I am not sure if this works on the flyer, and have no real reason to try this myself, but if some brave soul is willing to test it out, I can provide instructions.
PS: if anyone has already tried this, and found it lacking, please let us know before I suggest that someone do something stupid
Sorry, Have been away for a while. I would be interested in the instructions to edit the vold. Could you send me a link to instructions or the instructions. Has anyone else tried the vold change?
Thanks for the reply.
This flashable zip will allow to choose how to mount your internal and external storage.
Your two options are:
Internal storage as /mnt/sdcard and external storage as /mnt/sdcard/ext_sd
Internal storage as /mnt/sdcard/ext_sd and external storage as /mnt/sdcard
I have not been able to successfully mount the internal anywhere else unfortunately but will continue looking into it.
SIDE EFFECTS/ISSUES WITH THIS METHOD
You can not mount the external sdcard to a computer
In storage settings, External storage shows under "Phone storage" and the internal storage shows under "Storage card"
Selecting "Unmount storage card" will unmount the internal storage ("Mount storage card" will remount it though)
If you remove or boot with out the external sdcard neither storage space will be available for use
Possibly others...
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Changed update-binary-installer
Bug fix
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350 views from 2 different threads and not a single PM.
I'm definitely interested, however I am curious about what the reason/benefit of this mod would be.
mike.r.olson said:
I'm definitely interested, however I am curious about what the reason/benefit of this mod would be.
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The benefit would be all the big games will store the game data on the bigger external card. Along with other settings certain apps store. Also, if you have to exchange your phone, you keep all of your data.
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mike.r.olson said:
I'm definitely interested, however I am curious about what the reason/benefit of this mod would be.
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It would make your sd your storage... 16gb built into phone or my 64gb card hmmmm lol
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maxdamage2122 said:
I need a couple people with TWRP/CWM recovery to test out a couple flashable zips for me since I have not unlocked my bootloader yet. If you are interested please PM me and let me know which recovery you are running. PLEASE DO NOT post anything in this thread till I am done testing and have posted the zip. I should have it up late tonight (sadly I have work today) if everything goes as planned.
I have figured out how to mount the external storage as /sdcard and the internal storage as /sdcard/ext_sd. I have not been able to successfully mount the internal anywhere else unfortunately but will continue looking into it.
SIDE EFFECTS/ISSUES WITH THIS METHOD
You can not mount the external sdcard to a computer
In storage settings, External storage shows under "Phone storage" and the internal storage shows under "Storage card"
Selecting "Unmount storage card" will unmount the internal storage ("Mount storage card" will remount it though)
If you remove or boot with out the external sdcard neither storage space will be available for use
Possibly others...
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I'll test it for you, but I would also like a few things changed. Maybe increase app storage? Or could we dedicated some of it to phone ram?
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Updated OP with flashable zip.
Hey, can we PM, we may be on to something, we have the same dilemma lol.
maxdamage2122 said:
350 views from 2 different threads and not a single PM.
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I bet not too many people have filled up their internal storage...once they do they will be posting here in drones.
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This is a big benefit thanks cause when flashing roms twrp doesnt see the external sd card
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What I'd really like to see is the ability to have swap.
pbedard said:
This is a big benefit thanks cause when flashing roms twrp doesnt see the external sd card
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TWRP does allow you to view the external sdcard you have to go into mounts and change it. Be sure to change it back though or your back up's wind up on your external card.
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There should be a couple extra steps put in the OP.
And remember original storage is:
Internal storage = the app itself
Phone storage = the apps data
sd card= everything else
1. any apps that (the apk file itself) are installed in the phone storage, should be moved to internal storage.
2. Any of the game data that is on phone storage, should be moved to the actual sd card (sdcard2). This data is in the Android folder on phone storage (sdcard). So it should be moved from /mnt/sdcard/android/data to /mnt sdcard/ext_sdcard/android/data. Really just move the whole folder to the sd card. I moved the whole folder to phone storage from the sd card when I got the phone so I didn't have to sit there and download all the game data for the bigger games and such again.
3. Follow the steps in the OP of this hack.
4. If you want to get some of your 2 GB app storage space back, move the apps as you wish to phone storage. This will be the app apk file not the huge game data. But this time phone storage will be the actual sd card. So it won't take away from your 10 GB it will take away from the sd card.
The apps that get moved will get moved from /data/app to /mnt/sdcard/.android_secure.
also at this step I would say move a couple big apps/games as oppose to many little apps/games. Better to have a couple big ones to load not that often, than to have many little apps to load more often and cause more slowdown. The more little apps you have on the sd card the more possibility the phone gets slowed down, cause no matter what sd card u have, it's gonna be just a little slower than what came on the phone. So moving just a couple 50 mb games should go a long ways.
Now the question is what to do with that 10 GB. If I do this hack, which I eventually will, I would probably fill this space with titanium backups, have the pictures and video saved here, roms and such I will flash I recovery, ringtones, wallpapers. You kinda don't have to many more choices with this space. if I'm gonna take space away from the memory card but don't want to delete any of my 40 GB of music, I would want to move whatever I could in that 10 GB of space so it doesn't get wasted. Remember moving apps or huge game data doesn't go into the 10GB anymore.
There are pluses to this hack and there are minuses. Until I get the exact figures on what I can put where I am going to wait on doing all this, but I hope I helped give a bit of an overview to what is going on with your storage space and how it is used.
I posted this in the other thread too so no one misses it cause moving stuff around is time consuming and annoying.
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What I was thinking is to redo partition sizes. The 2.3gb for internal app storage get increased a little more.
Could we use some space to increase our RAM as seen in task manager? Mount the rest as the /android or /data folder so our apps would load faster instead of ex_sdcard.
Mount the external SD as the sdcard as normal. Sounds crazy I know..
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How does this differ from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1716166??
EarlyMon said:
How does this differ from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1716166??
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It's the same. The OP of that thread didn't see my thread when he made his. Mine is a flashable zip and his is the manual method (good for people that don't have unlocked bootloaders).
The zip failed for me in TWRP
No real error, just says failed!
Weird..
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Spyderekz said:
The zip failed for me in TWRP
No real error, just says failed!
Weird..
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Updated OP with a new version. Try that one out.
Flashed the new zip last night, everything is sweet. In fact I was having a problem moving apps from the internal [2GB) to the phone storage [10GB) and having the moved apps survive a reboot before I did this hack. I would move them, and after next time I would reboot, it would have the storage space taken up but not be installed. This is what made me flash this cause I was only going to have the 2 GB for apps. So after doing this and reboot everything is where it's suppose to be. Fixed my tons of problems with Google music too. storage and ram are a pain in the ass with this phone.
Follow my instructions and everything will be great.
My question is when I do flash new ROM and the swap mounts gets undone, can I flash this after the ROM in the same session or after a fresh install and reboot?
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ryanalan82 said:
My question is when I do flash new ROM and the swap mounts gets undone, can I flash this after the ROM in the same session or after a fresh install and reboot?
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Yes you can.
Edit: Flash in the same session.
Flash after rom
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This is obviously the most frustrating thing that we all want to do on the L9 (I have the P769 v20h T-Mobile ROOTED). This should work on all L9's. After tons of research I finally figured out a working method through multiple threads. There's methods with DirectoryBind and BusyBox scripts to mount but those were honestly confusing to me and I didn't understand how to operate those.
First off your phone MUST BE ROOTED. If your phone is not rooted here is a thread that will explain to you how to root, the software is chinese but I promise you it works.
Required Items:
Rooted L9
SD Card
Steps:
1.) I repeat you MUST be rooted
2.) Backup your SD cards files on your computer because you will be formatting the SD card.
3.) We must partition the SD Card into two parts. You can do this by downloading any SD card partitioner app but I used AParted.
3a.) Before you can do anything in the "Aparted" app you have to unmount your SD card. You can do this by going to your system settings. Then go to "Storage" then down at the bottom you will see "Unmount SD Card". Click that.
3b.) Now go into AParted. Click on the "TOOLS" tab at the top. You should only have one partition called "Part 1". Checkmark Part 1 and choose delete down at the bottom.
3c.) You now have a completely formatted SD card.
4.) Create TWO FAT32 partitions by going to the "TOOLS" tab at the top. The first partition is considered your SD card so this is where you would store personal pictures and music, etc from your computer. The second partition is where all the apps and apps data will be moved to. So make sure you appropriately size your partitions. Since I keep a fair sum of music I have a 8GB SD card and made the first partition 1.5GB and used the remaining space for Partition 2.
4a.) To make the partition click checkmark part 1 then click create. Under File System choose "Fat32". Make sure to only use whatever space you will need to store music, etc... Do this by changing the "Size" 1000 is equal to a gigabyte. So if you have a 4GB SD card then you can make this first partition 1500 or 2000 (1.5GB or 2GB) but you have to leave space. Now Click ok.
4b.) Now to make partition 2. Checkmark "Part 2" and click create. Under the file system choose "fat32" again. This time dont change the size, just use the remaining space that it shows and click ok.
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5.)Now download the app called "Link2SD"
6.) Once you open the app it will scan a list of all your apps.
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7.) BE CAREFUL with which apps you choose to move, I would say limit yourself to only moving the apps you've downloaded such as ESPN, Netflix, Games, etc...
8.) Choose the program you want to move to your SD card, I chose Cut the Rope.
9.) Click the "Create Link" button
10.) Make sure all three options are check-marked (Link Application Files, Link Dalvik-cache Files, Link Library Files)
11.) It will finish and you can proceed to link any apps you desire to the SD card, you can go into your system apps and see how much free space is available so you know it worked. You can see on mine I have much more than 339MB used.
If this helped please give thanks
nice works flawless
LGPwn works just as quickly and it's in English. Simple stuff
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sleepingturtle said:
LGPwn works just as quickly and it's in English. Simple stuff
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I respect your opinion, but the reason I did not mention LGPwn was because on the newest firmware update on the T-Mobile version of the P769 which is v20h (released September 13 I think) the LGPwn method no longer works and the Chinese software was the only root method that worked with v20h.
This looks pretty legit hopefully this works. Ive been trying everything to free up some space on this phone.
Weird. LGPwn worked on v20h for me. There are a few different models of P769s out there.
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I'm having some troubles here im doing doing what you are saying and nothing seems to work. Can you please tell me what to do more specifically because i feel like you are missing some parts.
So i have my phone rooted with LGpwn and ofcourse i tried it and it didn't work says like "Failure..."
So how do i go about to root with the chinese software do i have to unroot my L9 and how do i do that?
sleepingturtle said:
Weird. LGPwn worked on v20h for me. There are a few different models of P769s out there. .
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Strange... Well good thing it works on some models then, thanks for letting me know.
Rom28ito said:
I'm having some troubles here im doing doing what you are saying and nothing seems to work. Can you please tell me what to do more specifically because i feel like you are missing some parts.
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Where is the problem occurring? The main part I'm missing in here is how to delete the partition. You have to unmount the SD card before you can perform any deletion of the partition.
Mazrx said:
So i have my phone rooted with LGpwn and ofcourse i tried it and it didn't work says like "Failure..."
So how do i go about to root with the chinese software do i have to unroot my L9 and how do i do that?
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I feel like the same issue for you is the mounting. I'll edit my main post and add those steps. You have to go to settings>storage>SD card> Unmount SD Card. Then you goto the Aparted app and goto the tools tab to delete everything on your SD card. Then you create the two partitions with the free space
aaron2z said:
Strange... Well good thing it works on some models then, thanks for letting me know.
Where is the problem occurring? The main part I'm missing in here is how to delete the partition. You have to unmount the SD card before you can perform any deletion of the partition.
I feel like the same issue for you is the mounting. I'll edit my main post and add those steps. You have to go to settings>storage>SD card> Unmount SD Card. Then you goto the Aparted app and goto the tools tab to delete everything on your SD card. Then you create the two partitions with the free space
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I got it now. I did what you said and it worked now, THANK GOD now i can play the games that i wanted without worrying about space. :victory:
Rom28ito said:
I got it now. I did what you said and it worked now, THANK GOD now i can play the games that i wanted without worrying about space. :victory:
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Of course. I'm glad too help. Be careful with games like CSR Racing which is like 200MB where they download extra files because it looks like those extra files don't link to the SD card. I'm working on figuring it out though.
sleepingturtle said:
LGPwn works just as quickly and it's in English. Simple stuff
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I didn't see the option to put apps to my sd in Lgpwn.
uncleswoop said:
I didn't see the option to put apps to my sd in Lgpwn.
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LGPwn only roots. It doesn't do anything regarding putting apps on sd card. Follow the instructions in the OP and you should be fine.
sleepingturtle said:
LGPwn only roots. It doesn't do anything regarding putting apps on sd card. Follow the instructions in the OP and you should be fine.
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Yeah, just wanted you to clarify that all it does is root. It isn't an alternative for this process of getting apps on your sd.
Dumb question... Since I'm dearly new in this. Will getting that extra space on phone improve its performance?
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Why would you use 2 fat 32 partitions as opposed to making an ext3 or ext4 and linking like you would do on a lower end phone?
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Cesarvzla said:
Dumb question... Since I'm dearly new in this. Will getting that extra space on phone improve its performance?
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Not likely. Depending on the class of your sd card it could even slightly negatively impact your apps that are loaded on the sd card. It's worth any nominal change in speed to be able to get the apps to the SD card as otherwise this phone is definitely handcuffed by a small internal storage limit.
I actually tried ext4 and after I partitioned the phone wouldn't even read my SD.
Also I tried to use link2SD with a second fat32 but link2sd said it didn't support my phone. Is it cause I rooted with lgpwn?
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How to back up SD card files on computer? Any program or software to do the back up? Thanks.
aaron2z said:
This is obviously the most frustrating thing that we all want to do on the L9 (I have the P769 v20h T-Mobile ROOTED). This should work on all L9's. After tons of research I finally figured out a working method through multiple threads. There's methods with DirectoryBind and BusyBox scripts to mount but those were honestly confusing to me and I didn't understand how to operate those.
First off your phone MUST BE ROOTED. If your phone is not rooted here is a thread that will explain to you how to root, the software is chinese but I promise you it works.
Required Items:
Rooted L9
SD Card
Steps:
1.) I repeat you MUST be rooted
2.) Backup your SD cards files on your computer because you will be formatting the SD card.
3.) We must partition the SD Card into two parts. You can do this by downloading any SD card partitioner app but I used AParted.
3a.) Before you can do anything in the "Aparted" app you have to unmount your SD card. You can do this by going to your system settings. Then go to "Storage" then down at the bottom you will see "Unmount SD Card". Click that.
3b.) Now go into AParted. Click on the "TOOLS" tab at the top. You should only have one partition called "Part 1". Checkmark Part 1 and choose delete down at the bottom.
3c.) You now have a completely formatted SD card.
4.) Create TWO FAT32 partitions by going to the "TOOLS" tab at the top. The first partition is considered your SD card so this is where you would store personal pictures and music, etc from your computer. The second partition is where all the apps and apps data will be moved to. So make sure you appropriately size your partitions. Since I keep a fair sum of music I have a 8GB SD card and made the first partition 1.5GB and used the remaining space for Partition 2.
4a.) To make the partition click checkmark part 1 then click create. Under File System choose "Fat32". Make sure to only use whatever space you will need to store music, etc... Do this by changing the "Size" 1000 is equal to a gigabyte. So if you have a 4GB SD card then you can make this first partition 1500 or 2000 (1.5GB or 2GB) but you have to leave space. Now Click ok.
4b.) Now to make partition 2. Checkmark "Part 2" and click create. Under the file system choose "fat32" again. This time dont change the size, just use the remaining space that it shows and click ok.
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5.)Now download the app called "Link2SD"
6.) Once you open the app it will scan a list of all your apps.
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7.) BE CAREFUL with which apps you choose to move, I would say limit yourself to only moving the apps you've downloaded such as ESPN, Netflix, Games, etc...
8.) Choose the program you want to move to your SD card, I chose Cut the Rope.
9.) Click the "Create Link" button
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10.) Make sure all three options are check-marked (Link Application Files, Link Dalvik-cache Files, Link Library Files)
11.) It will finish and you can proceed to link any apps you desire to the SD card, you can go into your system apps and see how much free space is available so you know it worked. You can see on mine I have much more than 339MB used.
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If this helped please give thanks
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Excelent!