First time poster, long time reader. Switching from WebOS I was apprehensive only because the community behind it was so strong but Android is winning me over slowly but surely.
My question is this. On my Evo 3d I could export all of my apps to the SD card no problem. On my new (beautiful) Evo 4g LTE I can't seem to save my apps to the external SD card, I've tried APP2SD and a couple of other root enabled apps and they all seem to recognize the internal SD as being the preferred place to move these things. I haven't run out of space yet but I'd like to find a solution before I do.
I didn't buy a 32gb for nothing, please help if possible.
Thanks
Johnny
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New post in development thread!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1716166
Looks promising.
I'm still wondering the same thing.
Is the 8gb of internal phone storage not enough for your apps? I mean you still get the benefit of speed from the built in memory and it's plenty of space for a lot of apps. I have a 64 gb micro sd I use it for media.
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My sd is primarily media but I only have about 1gb left on the internal.
In the words of every person starting out an informercial "There's got to be a better way!"
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use link2sd...this thread explains the settings, basically use ext2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1678817&highlight=link2sd
Check here for possable work around.
Note: need to be rooted to do this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1716166
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I posted this issue on Android Central as well, but not as much chatter over there. Here is my issue:
I had this problem with my Samsung GSII as well and thought it may just be a fluke, but now I am having the same issue with my new Note.
Due to lack of free application storage, I move (VIA the App manager) most of my larger games on to the Micro SD card. Which looks like it works fine, however, after a while, not so much.
The Note (and all Samsungs) go through the scans when you boot up the phone on the internal storage and the memory card... Upon completion of this scan, the phone just keeps resetting. Once I pull the memory card out, I am good to go, but all my games were on the memory card.
I am using a PNY Class 10 card and am thinking maybe it is corrupt? Or maybe I am really not supposed to load everything on to the card like that?
Thoughts? Anyone else run in to this?
Thanks!
you do realize that most apps including large games take less than 50mb of space. and we have a 2GB storage partition you can store hundreds of apps with no problem. TBH i wouldnt bother with moving them until you do actually run out of app space.
As much as I hate to admit my app problem... I have long ago surpassed the 2G app storage..
After years of purchasing apps and many very good free apps of the day from Amazon, 2GB no longer cuts it for me.
Thanks.
wow really well the issue is that the phone itself uses the internal memory as the default storage location. There are some hacks but i wouldn't recommend using them on this phone as they are untested. Do you honestly use all those applications? I have tons of apps that I really dont use anymore that were from the donut days of android.
Your response sounds like some of the responses I get from our developers... "Well, tell them not to use it and it wont break!".
I say that in good fun. No, I dont use them all, but whenever I get a new device, I like to load it up with my stuff to test it out.
I could definitely remove or just not install about half of them, but again, that doesnt fix the problem. It simply avoids the problem.
Thanks again for your response.
codeworks said:
I posted this issue on Android Central as well, but not as much chatter over there. Here is my issue:
I had this problem with my Samsung GSII as well and thought it may just be a fluke, but now I am having the same issue with my new Note.
Due to lack of free application storage, I move (VIA the App manager) most of my larger games on to the Micro SD card. Which looks like it works fine, however, after a while, not so much.
The Note (and all Samsungs) go through the scans when you boot up the phone on the internal storage and the memory card... Upon completion of this scan, the phone just keeps resetting. Once I pull the memory card out, I am good to go, but all my games were on the memory card.
I am using a PNY Class 10 card and am thinking maybe it is corrupt? Or maybe I am really not supposed to load everything on to the card like that?
Thoughts? Anyone else run in to this?
Thanks!
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I have the same problem & no solution. I ended up restoring the Note on day 3 of ownership due to the constant resetting. Is there a way to make the internal 16GB the default install location?
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Honestly, I have about 8 gigs of apps installed, all moved to external SD card - a 64GB Sandisk Class 6. No reboots and no issues at all. Always move everything I can to external SD. Not sure why, just some mental preference in me likes to keep the phone itself as free as possible. Never had a restart or a crash because of it. Always used App2SD Pro app or Force to SD if rooted andnits been flawless - same experience on the SGS2 as well. Sounds like a corrupt card to me, honestly. Were you using he same card when you had issues in your previous Samsung devices?
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The amaze 4g seems to think of its internal memory as an sd card. Its saves things that should be going to the real sd card to the phones internal memory. If you look in astro or other file managers the real sd card is listed as ext_sd and the phone dosent use it. What gives i cant find much info on this. If you manually move the files to the real sd card (ext_sd) then the game cant find the data and wants to re download it. Apps to sd and such just move things back and forth between the phone storage and the "sd card" which is really the 10gigs of internal phone space not the true sd card. Very strange. Please help.
A lot of newer apps have a setting to store in ext_sd... if they don't, you're gonna have to move the stuff manually. Aside from editing the system files and changing the variables I don't think its going to be possible unless the app supports it. Sorry, just the way it is.
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I have over 100 apps and don't have that problem. None of them are on my ext_sd... Quite a few big apps too... I've seen a few ppl with the same prob, but I don't get why. Maybe it's because I don't have any music or movies on my phone...
I guess I will consider myself lucky :screwy:
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hd2joel said:
The amaze 4g seems to think of its internal memory as an sd card. Its saves things that should be going to the real sd card to the phones internal memory. If you look in astro or other file managers the real sd card is listed as ext_sd and the phone dosent use it. What gives i cant find much info on this. If you manually move the files to the real sd card (ext_sd) then the game cant find the data and wants to re download it. Apps to sd and such just move things back and forth between the phone storage and the "sd card" which is really the 10gigs of internal phone space not the true sd card. Very strange. Please help.
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it is a true sd card, its just internal and its separate from the phones internal memory. i wish there was a way to default to the external sd, but no dice
I notice your rooted and from the looks of your memory it looks like your phone is using the real sd card not the internal memorh. Im not rooted and mine looks opposite of yours i have like 7gigs free on my sd card and like 700mb of internal memory. I wounder if rooting fixes this issue and thats why more people dont seem to be having the issue.
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I notice your rooted and from the looks of your memory it looks like your phone is using the real sd card not the internal memorh. Im not rooted and mine looks opposite of yours i have like 7gigs free on my sd card and like 700mb of internal memory. I wounder if rooting fixes this issue and thats why more people dont seem to be having the issue.
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It's using internal for downloads and everything on my external was placed there by me manually (except for my cwm backups - I have 3 cwm backups on my SD which is hogging most of the space. I deleted 1 BU and now have 2GB+ available on my external.
I don't know if rooting makes a difference. I mean I deleted some bloatware, but none of the stock apps are that big in size, and I only removed about 10 stock apps/widgets. I only ran my phone stock for about 4 hours so idk
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hd2joel said:
The amaze 4g seems to think of its internal memory as an sd card. Its saves things that should be going to the real sd card to the phones internal memory. If you look in astro or other file managers the real sd card is listed as ext_sd and the phone dosent use it. What gives i cant find much info on this. If you manually move the files to the real sd card (ext_sd) then the game cant find the data and wants to re download it. Apps to sd and such just move things back and forth between the phone storage and the "sd card" which is really the 10gigs of internal phone space not the true sd card. Very strange. Please help.
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The internal memory is much, much faster (test it with SD Tools or AnTuTu Benchmark), so I wouldn't be in a hurry to move things to /mnt/sd_card/ext_sd. So long as you have the camera and other apps storing on on the ext_sd card, the 9GB internal should be fine for data, right?
i love how forum responses are always anything but a response to what op asked.
this is standard behavior for devices that have their own internal (mounted on android as /sdcard) storage partitions. the point is that, if this is not done, the a device with a large internal storage sees no benefit of it other than have a ridiculously large /data partition (we'd have over 13gb for apps on the amaze 4g for example).
ics has a better way of dealing with this treating the whole internal storage (no partitioning anymore) but again, the internal storage takes priority over the sdcard.
in my opinion it's better. I hated android automatically making several directories on my sdcard, but I agree the media scanner still has a way to go including media in the sdcard.
your best option if you don't like the new setup is to get a device instead with no internal storage that relies instead on a microSD
No its not when all the new games need 700mb downloads and the only program that uses the real external sd card is the camera. I love the new games with console quality games that's why i got a phone with no battery life and a ton of horse power. It wasn't to send faster texts. But any app the has a check box to save to the sd card ends up using that internal space called sd card. So i have a full phone an empty "real" sd card and the only app the knows its there is the camera. I cant download my audio books unless i delete a game. I cant use that external space for anything but pictures. 16gb is a lot of space just for pictures. I get internal memory is faster i just wish other apps could use it. Not just the camera app. Its dumb to call that space sd card when every app thinks that space is an external sd card. No app looks for an ext_sd card. So your 32gig class 10 card you spenf $100 for cant be used for anything but pictures its a dumb programming move.
jubeh said:
i love how forum responses are always anything but a response to what op asked.
this is standard behavior for devices that have their own internal (mounted on android as /sdcard) storage partitions. the point is that, if this is not done, the a device with a large internal storage sees no benefit of it other than have a ridiculously large /data partition (we'd have over 13gb for apps on the amaze 4g for example).
ics has a better way of dealing with this treating the whole internal storage (no partitioning anymore) but again, the internal storage takes priority over the sdcard.
in my opinion it's better. I hated android automatically making several directories on my sdcard, but I agree the media scanner still has a way to go including media in the sdcard.
your best option if you don't like the new setup is to get a device instead with no internal storage that relies instead on a microSD
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Great answer if you don't like it get a phone with no internal memory brilliant! Why can't they just save the name sdcard for true external sdcards? The point of a ton of internal memory is to have a ton of internal memory so i dont get your point of no benefit. The benefit is i have 13 gigs for all these games that require almost a gig of space. I think thats why they started putting that much internal memory. With the new power of these phones the apps are getting huge. So put a lot of very fast internal storage space. And then you can use your real sdcard as you always have. Apps arnt 2mb any more. So 13gigs of app storage would be a great benefit in the day of gigabyte sized apps. SORRY FOR THE RANT IM DONE NOW. some people's kids just bother me with their logic.
Hey guys, ima level 3 technician and I use to work at a T-Mobile refurb center and have worked at RIM and to end some confusion.
The internal memory is in fact an sd card ranging in sizes from 4-32 gigabytes class 6, I've worked on my phone personally just to double check and found one as well
I'm currently in the process of decrypting the format of my internal sd card so I can transfer it and swap it with a 32gb patriot class 10 just a little info I wanted to share, also the capacitive buttons light leak is due to a physical malfunction in the amazes hardware where the screen and glass met which makes a slight crevice where in turn the light leaks thru creating that dreaded overshoot,
I fixed this by opening up my phone ( I do not advise this I am a professional and have all my equipment so I don't make mistakes) and putting a line of electric tape (black) between the two so there is no longer any way the light can leak thru.
again I don't advise any of this simply giving some information on these problems
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Alan Corona said:
Hey guys, ima level 3 technician and I use to work at a T-Mobile refurb center and have worked at RIM and to end some confusion.
The internal memory is in fact an sd card ranging in sizes from 4-32 gigabytes class 6, I've worked on my phone personally just to double check and found one as well
I'm currently in the process of decrypting the format of my internal sd card so I can transfer it and swap it with a 32gb patriot class 10 just a little info I wanted to share, also the capacitive buttons light leak is due to a physical malfunction in the amazes hardware where the screen and glass met which makes a slight crevice where in turn the light leaks thru creating that dreaded overshoot,
I fixed this by opening up my phone ( I do not advise this I am a professional and have all my equipment so I don't make mistakes) and putting a line of electric tape (black) between the two so there is no longer any way the light can leak thru.
again I don't advise any of this simply giving some information on these problems
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So... You will have the only 64GB Amaze with no light bleed? If you tape a folded piece of paper in your back cover to stop the squeaking, and somehow throw ICS on that, you can prolly sell that thing for $2M
Thanks for the clarification
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Lmao that made my night.
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Alan Corona said:
Hey guys, ima level 3 technician and I use to work at a T-Mobile refurb center and have worked at RIM and to end some confusion.
The internal memory is in fact an sd card ranging in sizes from 4-32 gigabytes class 6, I've worked on my phone personally just to double check and found one as well
I'm currently in the process of decrypting the format of my internal sd card so I can transfer it and swap it with a 32gb patriot class 10 just a little info I wanted to share, also the capacitive buttons light leak is due to a physical malfunction in the amazes hardware where the screen and glass met which makes a slight crevice where in turn the light leaks thru creating that dreaded overshoot,
I fixed this by opening up my phone ( I do not advise this I am a professional and have all my equipment so I don't make mistakes) and putting a line of electric tape (black) between the two so there is no longer any way the light can leak thru.
again I don't advise any of this simply giving some information on these problems
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Pics or it didn't happen I call full on bull**** that there is an internal "removeable" sdcard in this thing. It's a memory module aka a chip that is permanently attached to the board. I love it when kids make stuff up. Just because they named it sdcard your now super tech and going to remove and up grade it. Lol some peoples kids. Anything to make yourself sound cool get a life really. Or show me pic of this internal card shouldn't be hard for a super tech of your skill lol.
Alan Corona said:
Hey guys, ima level 3 technician and I use to work at a T-Mobile refurb center and have worked at RIM and to end some confusion.
The internal memory is in fact an sd card ranging in sizes from 4-32 gigabytes class 6, I've worked on my phone personally just to double check and found one as well
I'm currently in the process of decrypting the format of my internal sd card so I can transfer it and swap it with a 32gb patriot class 10 just a little info I wanted to share, also the capacitive buttons light leak is due to a physical malfunction in the amazes hardware where the screen and glass met which makes a slight crevice where in turn the light leaks thru creating that dreaded overshoot,
I fixed this by opening up my phone ( I do not advise this I am a professional and have all my equipment so I don't make mistakes) and putting a line of electric tape (black) between the two so there is no longer any way the light can leak thru.
again I don't advise any of this simply giving some information on these problems
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Lol a 12yearold T-Mobile rim working super tech you made my day, really thank you ,oh yeah & electric tape only comes in black just an fyi
I will post pics thank you
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hd2joel said:
electric tape only comes in black just an fyi
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Lol I hope you're joking
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hd2joel said:
Pics or it didn't happen I call full on bull**** that there is an internal "removeable" sdcard in this thing. It's a memory module aka a chip that is permanently attached to the board. I love it when kids make stuff up. Just because they named it sdcard your now super tech and going to remove and up grade it. Lol some peoples kids. Anything to make yourself sound cool get a life really. Or show me pic of this internal card shouldn't be hard for a super tech of your skill lol.
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This coming from the same guy that thought the s-off thread was bull**** because the hboot build date time stamp was the same in both pictures. Who are you again and why have you come to troll the amaze boards? You're clearly out of your league here pal....
this forum is full of haters. Why not just give the guy the benefit.
Chuck Norris CAN touch MC Hammer!
This thread has ran it's course.
Closed.
Or are we still stuck with some programmer at Google who I would like to shoot, that got high and decided to name the phones non removable internal memory sd card. What a bright star. Last time I checked an sd card was never ment to be internal hence the word "card" meaning little flat thing I can take out. If It's internal non removable in my day we called that flash memory or internal memory or phone memory but never sd card. Now all the apps are confused my "real" removable sd card is sitting unused by any app but the camera at least someone was bright enough to let it use the removable memory. But it might as well be a one S with no card slot because no apps use it and I have to manually move things from the "internal sd" to the ext_sd card. That is apps that can find its data there and doesn't get lost and quit working till I move it back. Sorry for the rant. But the question is, is that the way ice is doing things to or did someone fix that so when I hit move app to sd it puts it on a removable sd card and doesn't just move it from one area of internal memory to another. Those of us who like to use our memory and not have a contest to see who has the most free are running into problems. Thanks for your input. AND PLEASE NO EDUCATION ON LINUX AND INTERNAL SD CARDS I DON'T CARE WHY IT'S A DUMB NAMING ERROR IN MY BOOK THAT I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF ICS FIXED. Or if we are in the era of just putting pictures and music on our cards like a darn $10 mp3 player.
Its called phone storage in ICS. The other pic is just for fun
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Hey, don't know if a topic on this was already started, so please delete if it was, but this whole internal and external storage creates so much frustration. All the apps just save their content to /sdcard which is just the internal memory. I would personally just like to combine the sdcard with the internal memory and create one big storage...just a thought though.
I kinda solved my own problem with this simple fix: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27539066#post27539066
The only problem with that would be you would then never be able to remove your SD card without corrupting all of the data, or so I would think.
We have good enough app space I wouldn't want to tank performance on the phone for that. Those features are better off for older phones or phones without good specs
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That's why I like the Galxy Nexus. It's all one HD and none of this partition crap. The down side is that there is no card to remove. I hated with my Photon I had two internal partitions and then ext-sd. I couldn't move apps to my ext-sd only interal "sd" if you can call it that. Dealing with the pains of partitions makes me prefer that all Androids should only have one internal partition and then the removable SD. After the win95/98 days and HD sizes I thought I would be done with partitions until I ran into big HD Android devices. /end rant
Yea I'm having some issues trying to figure out how to move data around between storage on this device
I don't understand how this is complicated. Am I missing something? Why in the world would a device with 16GB of internal space and nothing else be preferable to one with 16GB of internal space PLUS a 32GB sd card?
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.... I never said i wouldn't want the extra storage im just trying to figure out what goes where and how to easily move data between internal and the sd card. Ive had some success astro.
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That's why I like the Galxy Nexus. It's all one HD and none of this partition crap. The down side is that there is no card to remove. I hated with my Photon I had two internal partitions and then ext-sd. I couldn't move apps to my ext-sd only interal "sd" if you can call it that. Dealing with the pains of partitions makes me prefer that all Androids should only have one internal partition and then the removable SD. After the win95/98 days and HD sizes I thought I would be done with partitions until I ran into big HD Android devices. /end rant
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Regarding partitions, that's because Android is founded on the roots of Linux, if you use Linux you would understand where and why partitionsare used and needed
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firmbiz94 said:
.... I never said i wouldn't want the extra storage im just trying to figure out what goes where and how to easily move data between internal and the sd card. Ive had some success astro.
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Just use an app like Astro, Root Explorer, or ES File Explorer and it will allow you to easily move your data to basically wherever you want on the phone/external sd card.
lonnydub said:
That's why I like the Galxy Nexus. It's all one HD and none of this partition crap. The down side is that there is no card to remove. I hated with my Photon I had two internal partitions and then ext-sd. I couldn't move apps to my ext-sd only interal "sd" if you can call it that. Dealing with the pains of partitions makes me prefer that all Androids should only have one internal partition and then the removable SD. After the win95/98 days and HD sizes I thought I would be done with partitions until I ran into big HD Android devices. /end rant
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Yeah, that's one of the things I like about the galaxy nexus and the one x, is just having internal. The SD card option is great, but not much of use, if all apps are going to do is save to the internal memory (*cough* Google music) and leave it up to the user to bind the folders together...but I digress.
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if you use Linux you would understand where and why partitionsare used and needed
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It's just a personal preferance. I have used many different distros of Linux along with Unix. I like to put all my money into one pants pocket. I don't like to have some money in the back, some in front, some in the left pocket.
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I could and have easily filled 16gbs of storage! Bluray rips lol
You probably don't need an sd card slot for this device if your an average user. Me on the other hand thinks its perfect that my apps are in internal storage and my photos,music,vids use my 64gb extsd. I'm pretty sure the internal flash is faster then my class 10 card. It seems they have it partitioned correctly. I don't understand why you would want to put your apps in the sd,probably slower & becomes non removable.
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lonnydub said:
It's just a personal preferance. I have used many different distros of Linux along with Unix. I like to put all my money into one pants pocket. I don't like to have some money in the back, some in front, some in the left pocket.
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I prefer my apps in one pocket and my videos/photos in the other. Otherwise I'd be spending to much time trying to find crap in one pocket lol
slowfncar said:
I could and have easily filled 16gbs of storage! Bluray rips lol
You probably don't need an sd card slot for this device if your an average user. Me on the other hand thinks its perfect that my apps are in internal storage and my photos,music,vids use my 64gb extsd. I'm pretty sure the internal flash is faster then my class 10 card. It seems they have it partitioned correctly. I don't understand why you would want to put your apps in the sd,probably slower & becomes non removable.
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I prefer my apps in one pocket and my videos/photos in the other. Otherwise I'd be spending to much time trying to find crap in one pocket lol
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See...I guess it's really a personal preference. It just bothers me, when I have a 32 GB card just sitting there with only 2 GB used, meanwhile my internal storage has only 2 GB free.
use link2sd....this thread has more info..basically use ext2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1678817&highlight=link2sd
megabiteg said:
Regarding partitions, that's because Android is founded on the roots of Linux, if you use Linux you would understand where and why partitions are used and needed
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Actually, I have a fair amount of Linux knowledge and have set up more than a few PC's and servers in my time. I've never understood the reasoning behind it, and it really isn't needed, as you can do a single partition install on even the most recent distros and it will operate normally. You don't need a separate system and homespace. It is unnecessary, and in my opinion managing multiple partitions in that manner is a pain and adds to clutter. I will install it that way if people want me to, but I don't enjoy it that way.
If you grab any older Linux CD, you will see that a lot of them will normally install and configure itself on one data partition unless you state otherwise, and there is a reason for that. It's bad enough that the OS by default dislikes you being an admin all the time, which I also find ignorant. If you can't use a PC without fear of breaking something then you probably shouldn't be using one. It's just another extra precaution taken to try and make it more user friendly.
I don't know if you ever have, but I wasted one hour doing some editing in vi just for me to try and save and realize I forgot to use sudo so I couldn't use the necessary admin privileges... If I have permissions to perform an administrative task, then saying "I want to be admin now" shouldn't be necessary. Most people wouldn't make that mistake, but I have, and now I'll probably never do it again.
Granted, I do see a use for apps like superuser as a seemingly legitimate app in the market could do something dangerous behind the scenes and you can't easily monitor that(and I don't have to approve root each time I use a root app, unlike having to sudo before everything)
What app are some of you are using that's taking up lots of internal storage. I can see games and game data would do that. In that case use GL to SD app. When you open the app it will list games installed (sometimes other apps) and when you click on any it will prompt for a download game data but instead of downloading to internal it will download to micro sd which will save your internal space. If you've already downloaded data prior to installing GL to SD you can just delete them and let GL to SD download it to card or you can transfer them to the games(this might be different with the current GL to SD app) folder in your sd card.
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http://www.androidauthority.com/how-to-install-apps-to-sd-card-without-android-rooting-44239/
16gb is too small IMO
hate 2 bump my own thread but this place has been so busy i didnt want an important issue to go unnoticed
**** that would be awesome if this works. This looks so much better / safer than switching external sd card with internal. thinking about trying this.