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Hey all whats up ...New to Att and to the Atrix but not new to XDA , I am a long time member and was on the Evo and Epic forums for a while but had to leave and get this Atrix , which i must say is niceeee...But where is the development headed are we at a standstill , where are all the roms, I only saw 1 ....Anyone with insight on this matter please chime in
you should read the development section... i'm sure you'll find answers to your questions.
cortez.i said:
you should read the development section... i'm sure you'll find answers to your questions.
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I have been roaming through the Dev section and only seen 1 rom and that makes me wonder if I wanna root yet , maybe you can gimmie some insight on whats goin on latley
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I have been roaming through the Dev section and only seen 1 rom and that makes me wonder if I wanna root yet , maybe you can gimmie some insight on whats goin on latley
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Roaming a forum and actually reading the forums are completely two different things... If your not going to take the time to read the forums then why should we take the time to inform you on the progress? Everyone wants to be spoon fed these days...
I dont mean any negativity towards you but posts likes these just irritate me...
I'll throw you a bone though. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=961648
That thread should enlighten you on the current progress...
People on forums are so touchy. Either way, you only see that one rom because it is more of a modification than a rom. Once the devs make more progress on the phone (Remember it hasn't even been out two weeks) we will see more custom roms. But, we probably won't see custom kernals for a while, if ever.
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People on forums are so touchy. Either way, you only see that one rom because it is more of a modification than a rom. Once the devs make more progress on the phone (Remember it hasn't even been out two weeks) we will see more custom roms. But, we probably won't see custom kernals for a while, if ever.
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You are correct and to the OP I'm sorry if I came off rude. Having a headache tends to let a lot of little things get to you. As the person above me said, that one rom that we do have already isn't technically a rom. It is just a deodexed version of the stock rom with a reboot feature added. We won't be able to get a fully custom rom without unlocking the bootloader. The link I gave you is the link describing the current progress being made on unlocking the bootloader. If you have any experience with doing stuff that is being mentioned in that thread then feel free to chime in and provide some assistence .
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Hello all,
i am totally new in the world of roots and roms.
i managed to root and enable sideloading on my atrix! yay!
1) but what can i do now?
i am thinking about installing GreyBlur
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1039763)
2) can someone (who is lil patient) explain me what i would get? will my phone be faster? can i damage it since iam still new in this area?
3) anyone knows a good article/post/thread/anything where i can start getting into this root/roms area? so i can learn about it?
thanks for all your help, you are awesome.
Greetz
EDIT:
I bought an att Atrtix and got version 4.1.83 running
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1) but what can i do now?
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I have a question to you! Why did you root if you didn't know what you wanted to do afterwards? Rooting is not just so you can feel the "cool factor", and the vast majority of us know before we root why we want to do it, otherwise...................WHY do it???
Why did you bother? Your own answer should close this thread, and everything else you mentioned can be found by reading the forums!
No offense, but you shouldn't be rooting/flashing "roms" if you don't know what your doing.
It's very easy to end up with an unusable device.
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I have a question to you! Why did you root if you didn't know what you wanted to do afterwards? Rooting is not just so you can feel the "cool factor", and the vast majority of us know before we root why we want to do it, otherwise...................WHY do it???
Why did you bother? Your own answer should close this thread, and everything else you mentioned can be found by reading the forums!
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Thank you for nothing I guess. To answer your question! Irooted This phone because I want side loading enabled.
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No offense, but you shouldn't be rooting/flashing "roms" if you don't know what your doing.
It's very easy to end up with an unusable device.
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Thx. I know that. I managed to get everything working i wanted ;-) and everyone has to start at one ponit, right. That's why I would not do it if I don't want to. I want to learn more about it so can you tell me a good thread or webside to start with?
Can anyone tell means about that rom pls.
I find your responses a bit harsh guys.. Are there laws / regulations on who can / should root, profile boxes that have to be ticked before one can decide to have a go at unleashing the full power of their phone?
Nobody was born with the knowledge, we all started from scratch at some stage. There are enough warnings that explain how to apply the root methods that are offered in the threads.
Here you go OP:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/07/13/8-great-apps-every-rooted-android-user-should-know-about/
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...oted-user-should-know-about-part-2-apps-9-16/
Have fun, try not to brick your phone!!
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I have a question to you! Why did you root if you didn't know what you wanted to do afterwards? Rooting is not just so you can feel the "cool factor", and the vast majority of us know before we root why we want to do it, otherwise...................WHY do it???
Why did you bother? Your own answer should close this thread, and everything else you mentioned can be found by reading the forums!
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Ouch.......poor guy is new and gets slammed instantly for wondering what all he can do with his phone. I think we were all in the same boat not too long ago.
Yea, he may be a noob and not know the politics of posting before reading, but I bet each one of us did at one time too. What we should be doing is just politely pointing him in the right direction on how to learn more about all things root.
Such as http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=972423 being a good place to start.
Understand though, if you screw up your phone, there is no one to blame but yourself. Read how to recover from a soft brick and hard brick before jumping in. Read all posts VERY carefully and all the way through. That's how I learned, and many others before me. And first and foremost, before asking questions about anything, do a quick search of the treads to see if it has already been asked and answered before. If you don't find your question, feel free to ask and ignore those that troll the treads.
Good luck my man.
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I find your responses a bit harsh guys.. Are there laws / regulations on who can / should root, profile boxes that have to be ticked before one can decide to have a go at unleashing the full power of their phone?
Nobody was born with the knowledge, we all started from scratch at some stage. There are enough warnings that explain how to apply the root methods that are offered in the threads.
Here you go OP:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/07/13/8-great-apps-every-rooted-android-user-should-know-about/
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...oted-user-should-know-about-part-2-apps-9-16/
Have fun, try not to brick your phone!!
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Funny......had to have been writing at the same time......at least we were on the same page.
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Funny......had to have been writing at the same time......at least we were on the same page.
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Indeed!
Smintz said:
Thx. I know that. I managed to get everything working i wanted ;-) and everyone has to start at one ponit, right. That's why I would not do it if I don't want to. I want to learn more about it so can you tell me a good thread or webside to start with?
Can anyone tell means about that rom pls.
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I am running Gingerblur which is very similar. I think it is a great ROM and one of the few so far for the Atrix. If you like some of the Blur stuff such as the gallery and social networking items, you have to understand that you will be losing them with the new ROM and going with the stock Android gallery. However, if you do a backup of your current ROM before flashing, you can always revert back if you don't like it.
Big thing, screen shots help for me. And the ROM developers do a great job at giving the details of their ROMs in their posts or websites.
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Ouch.......poor guy is new and gets slammed instantly for wondering what all he can do with his phone. I think we were all in the same boat not too long ago.
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I agree, we all have to learn, but the vast majority of us started by reading through threads which have all the info about how to flash sbf's, root, sideload, flash themes, what is and is not possible, etc. We then tried things by following the instructions.
I'm not, and was not, trying to be a ****. I am however very blunt! Everything the OP needs is already there if he/she looks. The forums are full of "repeat" threads because people are basically too lazy to read and research for themselves before asking what has already been asked numerous times.
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thanks for all your help. its time to start reading
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1099846
Hi guys,
I still possible to make SGS2 unlock the phone as soon as i enter the right pin code on lock screen, without having to press the OK button down the bottom?
Doubt it, asthe ability to lock the sim card be too great. Example: you make a mistake on the last digit. 2 attempts left. You have taken a couple of beers. Ops. Sim Locked
Has anyone found a solution to this??
I've been customizing my phone every day for who knows how long, little by little to get it just how i like it, and this 'OK' button is annoying. VERY annoying. Though, I need a PIN on my phone, and 99.99%of the apps on the market have horrible horrible designs. No offence, but I'd rather stay with the android look. All of the thread's I've found have either told someone to use a third-party app, or use CM10. Well, someone who has almost all of their information on their phone can't afford to install this, seeing as it wipes your entire phone, and for a PIN, that's unnecessary. I don't know what roms are, same with roms. I like the way the touchwiz UI looks on my E4GT(I have fk09 leak installed, recently got this phone, and barely had anything on it). I like the way JB looks with touchwiz way more than it did on ICS(looked horrid).
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If someone can find a fix to this, without any third party launchers, or horrible-looking apps, that would be great. If you give a rom, explain how to install it. Thanks in advance.
The rom SlimBean has this feature which I use. It can be found in the lock screen settings.
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I'm going to preempt the inevitable question that's going to come following Drexciya's excellent suggestion to use Slim if you want this feature (tick quick unlock in settings/interface/lock screen/screen security).
How do you install it ? Read the first page of the Slim thread in Development. Easy.
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I'm going to preempt the inevitable question that's going to come following Drexciya's excellent suggestion to use Slim if you want this feature (tick quick unlock in settings/interface/lock screen/screen security).
How do you install it ? Read the first page of the Slim thread in Development. Easy.
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Thanks for an answer, but AFAIK, FK09 has no recovery mod, which i didn't realize, and unless someone kniws of one that supports the build,pr whatever, I can't load any mods.. Also, links to specefic topics help a lot..
And you're unable to go to the Development section & look for the Slim Bean thread like everyone else here why exactly ? (using the XDA app on your phone & being too lazy don't count as valid answers).
Re: whatever you're running now that has no recovery, looks like you're going to have to flash something else; another rom that has CWRecovery or at the very least temporary CWRecovery (which will disappear after you reboot) if you want to flash Slim. I don't believe there's an Odin version.
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Also, links to specefic topics help a lot..
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And you're unable to go to the Development section & look for the Slim Bean thread like everyone else here why exactly ? (using the XDA app on your phone & being too lazy don't count as valid answers).
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No, I'm not being lazy, I simply dont know where to look. Not sure if you could tell, t I'm new here, and I'm not used to this. Did you expect me to just know where EVERYTHING is? I found this thread after wasting my entire evening looking for a solution, and found this thread. I signed up specefically for this purpose. I was trying to ask for a link without looking too unappreciative, but rhatbobvoliously didn't help. And I don't use an xda app, nor do I intend to.
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Re: whatever you're running now that has no recovery, looks like you're going to have to flash something else; another rom that has CWRecovery or at the very least temporary CWRecovery (which will disappear after you reboot) if you want to flash Slim. I don't believe there's an Odin version.
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I really don't know how to do this.. Is there a thread for this? I'll just google it.. Thanks anyways.
My point was (is) I don't have a link. If I want to get you a link, I'd go to Development (by navigating the site; not exactly a new fandangled web thingy) & find the thread, come back here & post the link. You're perfectly capable of doing this yourself, yet you expect me to that ?
That speaks volumes about the people who seem to visit here these days. They want everything served up to them on a silver platter with a minimum or no effort on their own part.
Also, from his first post in this thread, he's an Epic 4g Touch user. Any ROM suggestions he gets here are likely to be i9100 ROMs.
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My point was (is) I don't have a link. If I want to get you a link, I'd go to Development (by navigating the site; not exactly a new fandangled web thingy) & find the thread, come back here & post the link. You're perfectly capable of doing this yourself, yet you expect me to that ?
That speaks volumes about the people who seem to visit here these days. They want everything served up to them on a silver platter with a minimum or no effort on their own part.
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And this shows that some people who find themselves comfortable here can't read. I obviously don't know how to get to development, or how to navigate the forums. I don't inderatand how it takes any more explaination that I DON'T KNOW where to look. Get around looking like a smart allic, and actually take the time to help people around. What are you, 14? You act like it, as everyone is supposed to know everything on a site for developers. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that I know nothing about these things. I didn't do the rooting, soneone else did, so stop expecting everyone knows as much about this forum, or everything you are, because they don't. As far as I know, I didn't come here to argue with someone I don't even know, who thinks they're an internet genious, I came here for support. A link is the least of your problems if you think I know where it is. If you don't want to, don't do it, that's simple, just don't do it. Just don't reply, and save yourself the embarassment, because you just made the forums seem like ignorant children with conputers, who care more about criticising people than anything.
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Also, from his first post in this thread, he's an Epic 4g Touch user. Any ROM suggestions he gets here are likely to be i9100 ROMs.
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Aren't they both Galaxy SII's? I would think they did the same, and these roms run the same.. Does that mean that there are no rom for the epic 4g touch? If not, is there a way around this without rom?
Thanks in advance
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Aren't they both Galaxy SII's? I would think they did the same, and these roms run the same.. Does that mean that there are no rom for the epic 4g touch? If not, is there a way around this without rom?
Thanks in advance
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Clearly you don't know you're in the wrong place anyways.
Yes, they are both Galaxy SII's. They are different, however, since yours (Epic 4g Touch) is a phone designed to work on Sprint's CDMA network. That phone has a separate forum. There are plenty of ROMs for that device in its forum.
The device this forum is for (GT-I9100) is a GSM phone that won't even work on Sprint's network. So no, ROMs for this phone won't work on your phone.
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Clearly you don't know you're in the wrong place anyways.
Yes, they are both Galaxy SII's. They are different, however, since yours (Epic 4g Touch) is a phone designed to work on Sprint's CDMA network. That phone has a separate forum. There are plenty of ROMs for that device in its forum.
The device this forum is for (GT-I9100) is a GSM phone that won't even work on Sprint's network. So no, ROMs for this phone won't work on your phone.
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Thank you, for clearing this up
I have the AT&T model and I want a ICS stock root without all the garbage apps and shenanigans AT&T forces on your phone.
I already looked around in the ROM directory and I did find this thread which seems to match what I'm looking for: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1752232
Is the ROM in this link a pre-rooted ROM?
But I need to be careful to keep my phone rooted as I don't live in America anymore and I don't want my phone to get locked or I cannot receive calls.
I am currently using a stock gingerbread ROM rooted.
I recommend Task's ASOP rom I have been using it for months through many updates and it just keeps getting better.
hd779 said:
I recommend Task's ASOP rom I have been using it for months through many updates and it just keeps getting better.
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Could you post a link? I could not find it.
You wanted a ICS stock? Try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1650948
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You wanted a ICS stock? Try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1650948
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Nice thank you.
Also would you happen to have a link that would have instructions and download links to flashing a ROM. Its been a while since I last did this and I don't wanna brick my phone.
This is the closest I could find but I remember there being a better one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1285894
Why not look in development?????
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Why not look in development?????
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I am and I'm getting a bit confused. If I remember correctly when I last did this all the ROMS i tried were .tar files, now they are all .zip files and when I extract the file I cannot find a .tar in any folders.
T.T
Search for creepyncrawly's guide to flashing. No offense, but you've got a lot to learn, buddy. And uh, I wouldn't post asking questions like "I want this kind of ROM" or "help me learn how to flash again" until you've read a lot, since people around here highly discourage that kind of thing. Just warning you in advance.
Fair enough,
In my defense though I did not ask for explanations in the thread, but links for me to read and figure it out myself : /
EDIT: I tried searching for creepyncrawly's guide and came out empty handed. These forum search functions never work properly, can someone just link me there?
Useful links are here. It includes creepyncrawly's guide, but I've linked that one too, just for you. Good luck!
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Useful links are here. It includes creepyncrawly's guide, but I've linked that one too, just for you. Good luck!
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Thank you very much! Also one more thing if you would be so kind to answer. My phone is already rooted (Gingerbread stock root) so can I skip to the section detailing flashing ROMs?
Sky` said:
Thank you very much! Also one more thing if you would be so kind to answer. My phone is already rooted (Gingerbread stock root) so can I skip to the section detailing flashing ROMs?
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If you're rooted you can skip to installing a custom kernel, yes. Make sure to read the flash counter though, it's important that you know how to do that.
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Sky` said:
Thank you very much! Also one more thing if you would be so kind to answer. My phone is already rooted (Gingerbread stock root) so can I skip to the section detailing flashing ROMs?
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Make sure you have clockwork mod installed, if you did not flash a custom kernel you may not have it. If you don't you may need to flash a custom kernel and then go from there. If you know how to get in recovery try to and see if clockwork mod shows up. If its the default recovery you will need to flash a custom kernel from there you can flash whatever rom you want.
Sky` said:
Fair enough,
In my defense though I did not ask for explanations in the thread, but links for me to read and figure it out myself : /
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This is a self-service forum. Asking people to provide links is just as bad as asking them to do the research for you. There are FAQs and Stickies that cover much of the basics and the search function to fill in the gaps. Even Google searches often return results that end up here. I'm glad you can read for yourself, so start finding things on your own and you'll get/cause a lot less grief in here.
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This is a self-service forum. Asking people to provide links is just as bad as asking them to do the research for you. There are FAQs and Stickies that cover much of the basics and the search function to fill in the gaps. Even Google searches often return results that end up here. I'm glad you can read for yourself, so start finding things on your own and you'll get/cause a lot less grief in here.
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^^^this. Now let me ask u, did he flame him? No. Did he curse? No. He just simply told him the truth and how to help himself in a straight forward manner. These kinds of responses are perfectly fine and should be the norm for anyone looking to get spoon fed. If u can't take the time (I took over a week of reading before I even flashed anything on my phone) to read and search, its not fair to ask someone else to do it for you.
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^^^this. Now let me ask u, did he flame him? No. Did he curse? No. He just simply told him the truth and how to help himself in a straight forward manner. These kinds of responses are perfectly fine and should be the norm for anyone looking to get spoon fed. If u can't take the time (I took over a week of reading before I even flashed anything on my phone) to read and search, its not fair to ask someone else to do it for you.
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Same here bro, even coming from OG Galaxy S (Captivate), i read everything there was on i777 forums (stickies in general and development) before i even tried to flash anything... if only everyone did some reading... I mean I've been running custom roms since September '11, I don't think I've ever asked how to do something so simple, really tho? Which ics rom? Just read the first few pages of each thread that interests you, Itll help you and XDA as A whole. I've yet to brick my phone, I've gone thru numerous roms. Not trying to be a *****, but what you're asking XDA members to do for you is remedial...
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I'm sort of in the same boat, I'm on UnNamed and now with official ICS out I'm looking at development and reading up again and it's getting confusing because I see AJs rom and it seems nice but I don't seem to see (correct me if I'm wrong) Entropy as active on kernel development and UnNamed has sort of been "abandoned" other than Ryudes project. I guess what a lot of people are hoping for is an "UnNamed" style ICS with a very stable stock based kernel, all stock flame aside, that's 100% daily driver capable. I like 2.3.4, does everything I need my phone to do daily, I rely heavily on gps and bluetooth for driving which are some of the issues I read about with the ported kernels, as well as various mic swap stuff which is intimidating to be completely honest. Does anyone know if there is work on something stock based with a DD style kernel? I know this is fairly new ground so I'm not wanting to come off as ungrateful for the work that is going on and that has been done.
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I respect everyone's answers and tolerance. Please keep in mind though while this may be seem trivial to the advanced users this can be very confusing/overwhelming for noobs. I am grateful for the guidance provided thus far and can say I am making a solid effort to figure this out on my own.
I have successfully flashed the ICS ROM/Kernel provided by creepy with the help of the forum members. I did make a few mistakes though, I did not wipe the Dalvik cache or data, and did not bother performing a factory reset before hand. Either way, the phone is running fine aside from my wallpaper image not panning through desktop windows, apparently this has been discussed before; but searching the forums, google, and few pages of threads has been fruitless.
Sky` said:
I respect everyone's answers and tolerance. Please keep in mind though while this may be seem trivial to the advanced users this can be very confusing/overwhelming for noobs. I am grateful for the guidance provided thus far and can say I am making a solid effort to figure this out on my own.
I have successfully flashed the ICS ROM/Kernel provided by creepy with the help of the forum members. I did make a few mistakes though, I did not wipe the Dalvik cache or data, and did not bother performing a factory reset before hand. Either way, the phone is running fine aside from my wallpaper image not panning through desktop windows, apparently this has been discussed before; but searching the forums, google, and few pages of threads has been fruitless.
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Yes, I agree that preparing to flash something on your phone when you start with no knowledge can be confusing, and overwhelming for some. There are clearly differences in how the mind works from one person to another. Some pick up technical issues fairly quickly, others (my wife, who is a musician with creative temprament, for instance) have difficulty even retaining the technical information they have already learned.
However, you flashed UCLE5 stock plus root from the OP of my thread in the development forum without first doing a wipe data/factory reset. So did you read through the text of the OP of that thread and fail to understand what was written there, or did you just not read it? If you are the type of person that doesn't grasp technical issues easily or at all, then you should not be messing with your phone. This is a ~$500.00 device which you could easily destroy if you do the wrong thing.
Or... you should take as long as you need to fully understand what you are doing, even if it takes weeks or months before you flash anything. Let go of instant gratification for once.
I sure hope you followed the OP of the thread and flashed a custom kernel. If you haven't, then whatever you do, Do Not Do A Wipe Data/Factory Reset while the UCLE5 kernel is still installed.
Further, you have started several different threads and posted in others, all about the same issue, which is very close to spamming the forums. Please make yourself aware of the rules of this place, and conform to them.
As far as the wallpaper issue, I find it hard to believe that you could search and find absolutely nothing on this. All the ICS leaks contain this bug, or feature. The new SGS III also has the exact same issue. You can set a portrait wallpaper but not a scrolling one. There are a multitude of wallpaper programs on the Google Play Store that will fix the issue. You can also install another launcher, such as Apex, to fix the issue.
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^^^this. Now let me ask u, did he flame him? No. Did he curse? No. He just simply told him the truth and how to help himself in a straight forward manner. These kinds of responses are perfectly fine and should be the norm for anyone looking to get spoon fed. If u can't take the time (I took over a week of reading before I even flashed anything on my phone) to read and search, its not fair to ask someone else to do it for you.
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Yeah, but someone will STILL get offended. lol
And I'm going to +1 to all who suggested Task650's AOKP Rom's. I've been running them for quite a while and they're one of the best around.
Hey everyone, I am stuck. Finally got around to playing, and ran the Brightstar RUU to change phone into Dev edition. Everything went perfect thanks to all these great threads here, but now I don't have ANY recovery installed. I didn't notice if it was gone after S-Off'ing, or after the RUU, but now nothing. Has anyone heard of this, and can I put a recovery back on? I DL'd a stock, but I really would like CWM. If anyone can point me in the right direction, much thanks.
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Hey everyone, I am stuck. Finally got around to playing, and ran the Brightstar RUU to change phone into Dev edition. Everything went perfect thanks to all these great threads here, but now I don't have ANY recovery installed. I didn't notice if it was gone after S-Off'ing, or after the RUU, but now nothing. Has anyone heard of this, and can I put a recovery back on? I DL'd a stock, but I really would like CWM. If anyone can point me in the right direction, much thanks.
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Hey, I wanted to thank everyone for NOT posting any answers. Through the help of these forums, I was able to muddy my way through and find the solutions that I seek. Another learning experience for sure. Solution is that even though phone was S-Off, the bootloader had to be RE-unlocked to flash a recovery. But I am sure everyone but me knew that
Moderator can delete/close this thread thanks.
hack14u said:
Hey, I wanted to thank everyone for NOT posting any answers. Through the help of these forums, I was able to muddy my way through and find the solutions that I seek. Another learning experience for sure. Solution is that even though phone was S-Off, the bootloader had to be RE-unlocked to flash a recovery. But I am sure everyone but me knew that
Moderator can delete/close this thread thanks.
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Sorry I didn't see your question in time, just so you know (or i guess you figured out), no-one really monitors the at&t forums. In it's best times their were only about 25 of us in here. In the future take your questions and concerns to the international One forums and you'll have much better luck. At one time their was talk of combining the two forums because all the GSM phones are basically identical.
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Sorry I didn't see your question in time, just so you know (or i guess you figured out), no-one really monitors the at&t forums. In it's best times their were only about 25 of us in here. In the future take your questions and concerns to the international One forums and you'll have much better luck. At one time their was talk of combining the two forums because all the GSM phones are basically identical.
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Oh no, it really is ALL good, I learned so much from it, and it came from both the forums. That's what this site is all about, at least for me it is. I am dang proud of being able to take all the knowledge and posts and ACTUALLY make it work for myself without giving up. The people on this site are just awesome! Just one problem, and thanks to the posts, I learned 5 new tricks!