[Q] HELP! Phone bricked after helroz unlock s app - Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I was just preparing for leaving on holiday so I said I should unlock my phone. Rooted my phone, installed galaxy s2 unlock tool- didn;t get a code
then tried galaxy s unlock app from helroz and after step 2, restart and my phone had a no signal sign, tried to put it on plane mode and it is stuck now like that.
Opened galaxy sII repair tool but it doesn't work... What do I do wrong? Should I wipe the phone, install the galaxy sII repair tool? I have two folders now with efs files...one is from unlock app and one from the repair one. Please tell me what to do. I am desperate

You could jsut reflash original samsung rom, and use the app(I think chainfire made it) that will unlock you'r sg2 for free, or charge I don't remember.

thanks! So any original uk samsung rom and after that install that app?
I am so stupid for trying my luck with this...even in description helroz said clear that it's risky

Save quickly your efs!!!!!!! Is your phone this!!!without this is ipod!!!!no phone or imei code!!!!!!
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Oooh my..actually I used that app in the first place...and it didn't work...then second option was this, and like chainfire said...more risky :/ oh my...

valentinrascu said:
Save quickly your efs!!!!!!! Is your phone this!!!without this is ipod!!!!no phone or imei code!!!!!!
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where? I saved it several times with those 2 apps...I don't know what are they...the first app told me to save the efs as a backup in the unlock sgs2 folder. Second app as well... God knows what effs I have there...the original or the one with problems...take my words with a grain of salt, I really don't know nothing about this...please..should I copy those files somewhere in my computer?

screenshots here with what efs files on my phone.. so what do I do now?

ok it looks like I have a clean backup of the efs folder. I took a look and I find the 17 june date at some files
So I am missing the .nv_data.bak, .nv_data.bak.md5 and nv_data.bin.md5 but it looks like I have them in the backup that the app did it. So far only these files are missing... Should I make a full restore or only those files? And should I do it with root explorer copy paste?

Allright friends...that was hell of a scare. I deleted everything from efs folder after downloading a root explorer. Obviously I couldn't delete the folder itself nor rename it, so I had to paste the good files carefully.
All set now back in business, lesson learned, now I have the folder in my computer.
I wonder where did I do wrong, and why none of the method of unlock didn't work...neither chainfire or helroz.

the problem was you messed with 2 different tools.
All you need is the helroz unlock app, be running ics, follow the instructions, backup ya efs, and unlock.
IF YOU change ya mind and need to restore it, do it through the unlock app, NOT through the repair tool he made, yes, it does a similar thing, but if youd used the unlock app to restore efs you wouldnt or shouldnt have had any issues, your the first person i know to come unstuck with it.
be VERY CAREFUL with chains unlock app, it quite often wont work or gives ya the wrong code, which then ends up freezing ya phone, prob best to avoid that all together and take it to an unlock shop.

graemeg said:
the problem was you messed with 2 different tools.
All you need is the helroz unlock app, be running ics, follow the instructions, backup ya efs, and unlock.
IF YOU change ya mind and need to restore it, do it through the unlock app, NOT through the repair tool he made, yes, it does a similar thing, but if youd used the unlock app to restore efs you wouldnt or shouldnt have had any issues, your the first person i know to come unstuck with it.
be VERY CAREFUL with chains unlock app, it quite often wont work or gives ya the wrong code, which then ends up freezing ya phone, prob best to avoid that all together and take it to an unlock shop.
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Yes, you are right, but I didn't thought about it, The first backup made was from the unlock tool. The second one obviously was made by the repair tool, only the problem was that it just backed up the damaged efs folder. I kept trying to restore but that was not the place for repair. Thanks to helroz that he made the backup in 2 different folders, so the bad efs didn't overwrite the good one.
Strange, I thought that chain's method was the safest, already tried it, it took a lot of minutes and prompted that couldn't find any code, I guess I won't try it again.
Should I try helroz app again? I am thinking to do so
And...one more thing, last night when it came back to life I only tested the data part of the sim. In the morning I tried to give a test call and didn't work although I had network signal.
I also tried to contact myself and it was like I had it shut off.
Everything came back to normal after shutting down and turning on again. Do you think it something I should worry,could it be because root/efs folder?

Oh no, Now I lost root acces, after installing busybox 1.17.1 ...what should I do?

anyone... superuser app cant be updated...version legacy, update fail...I know for sure this superbox messed it...

ok, so what you need to do is a new start.
Starting with odin, do no wipe anything from recovery, just go straight to odin and flash your usual ics rom, when you get the green pass, pull the usb lead and pull the battery.
put ya battery back in and boot to recovery, standard one, do a factory reset.
After that boot ya phone up, all should be good, set it up how you want, do the usual to gain root access.
After this use once you have root access, download the appropriate CF-ROOT kernel that matches your rom, and download mobile odin from the market, unzip ya kernel and flash ya kernel through that, if ya must use odin pc, then use triangle away afterwards.
Once youve done this, any EFS backup from the previous attempts on your usb storage or sd card, DELETE the entire folders and contents.
Once youre all set, recovery, cwm and everything, get the unlock app from the market, and follow the steps exactly as is said in the instruction, and unlock your phone and backup EFS.
Now go back to your sd card, backup the efs folder it created to a safe place on your pc and keep it safe.
You should now be unlocked and sorted. after using this app DO NOT USE SGS REPAIR TOOL, it does create a different backup for different purposes, if you feel the need to restore the efs folder and relock your phone, then you must do it from the unlock app.
im confident if you do it all right, you will be ok.

Now I understand what happened: I ran the unlock app, but the developer suggests superbox 1.17, I saw that I already had a superbox version installed but ..huh newbie...went ahead and that was the point where I lost root, I couldn't even passs step 1 with backup efs.
Thanks again....but I was on fire and again acted DIY spirit. I did so many times wipe caceh, factory data and saw that it didn't work.
So I just downloaded a stock rom (btw it's not my network rom, only the firmware matched not the baseband or csc).
-went to recovery, wiped cache, wiped data
- odin flash stock rom
- then odin root siyah
- then, and here is the clever part: screw that 1.17 recommendation and just installed galaxy s unlock without superbox, backed up efs; step 2, restart, step 3 (though I don't know if it was necessary)
And IT's UNLOCKED
Now please tell me if I did something wrong. I should copy that efs created backup in my computer right? and that's it....so much work for what it supposed to be 1 minute job...I guess I'm learning the hard way.

OK, here's what I will do when I come back, I'm late lol because of this,
Flash my H3G LP3 XWLP7 STOCK ROM.
now I don't know the right order, could u please help me here
Root and backup first or backup first and then root?
after these CF-ROOT Kernel - what is this actually? and why? shouldn't this syiah kernel be ok enough?
use triangle away
copy that efs folder that was created last time in my pc.
Delete? all the efs folder related files from sdcard?
what other files should I keep just in case? becaue I find myself formating the sdcard partition often. thanks

the kernel choice you use to root is your preference, i use CFROOT, because chainfire is a tried and tested longtime reliable developer, is apps are usually solid, i was on the galaxy note and chainfires work was always the best.
Always backup the efs to the pc and keep it safe, no real reason other than you then have a backup to restore just in case your usb storage or sd card gets accidentally damaged or wiped, its always wise to have an extra copy of a backup.
i also use cfroot because it includes a version of clockworkmode recovery and the cwm app, using the cwm app you are then able to flash custom roms from recovery, stock roms from the app or even kernels, without ever having to use the pc odin again and everytime you flash a new stock rom through cwm app you keep the root, so no messing afterwards and no horrible triangles or counter increase,. its just the job.
So in order of prefernece, this is how i install and gain root, from scratch.
1 - install my stock rom through odin.
2 - i then use Initial cfroot flasher to flash the zimage of the kernel and gain root.
3 - i then install mobile odin which i purchased because its also a good flashing tool for the phone and of course i already have the cwm app from step 2.
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in the future
If i want to flash customisations or mods, themes, custom roms, i use cwm app to boot to recovery mode and flash them from the sd card.
if i ever want to flash another stock rom, the procedure is this -
1 - create a folder in the root of your sd card called firmware.
2 - copy the unzipped file(s) from the downloaded stock rom to the folder you made, and also the matching cfroot kernel for that rom.
3 - Then run cwm app, select Flash Stock Firmware, itll ask a couple of questions and ask about root, select the cfroot kernel you copied to the card as the source for root, not to keep the stock kernel, or youll lose the root.
4 - it then reboots to flashing mode and does what it needs to do, it will again reboot and appl the multi-csc etc.
After this it will reboot to the firmware where you are now on new rom and rooted, bingo.
IF YOU GET A HANG OR BOOTLOOP
dont panic, just pull battery, put battery back in, hold the 3 buttons down to boot to recovery and do a full wipe, then restart the system, job done.
Ok people do you different kernels and methods of flashing, but seriously this is why i flash the way i do, purely so i dont have to piss around with triangle away or jigs to reset counters, all that can be avoided and anyone who flashes a custom kernel through pc odin is just being lazy, there really isnt any need to do that, you can gain root by other methods like the ones ive already mentioned, even mobile odin lets you root your phone when flashing a new rom.
It sounds like you have the system sorted now and running anyway, if its working for you with that kernel then just stick as you are, happy days, i just always stick with cfroot for the reasons ive mentioned.
Anyway glad youve got sorted now, hopefully no more problems.

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please help and advice regarding steps to rooting my samsung

hey everyone, i am new here.. i have recently bought a samsung galaxy s3 GT-i9300
and i've used and installed several apps on it and after some time i've come through several apps that needs root in order to run.. so i think its time to learn how to root it incase i wanna try it soon.. after doing some searching i found out this, i will summarize ,
1st, shutdown and reboot using download mode
2nd, after ur in download mode, conect usb and open odin
3rd, in Odin , choose PDA and put the .tar file which by searching i downloaded a "CF-Root-SGS3-v6.3.tar" (Please recomend if this is normal and for any s3 will work), also only mark f.reset time and auto reboot
4th, click start on Odin , and some serious things starts to be typed on ur phone, u can remove the usb now
5th, ur done wait for ur samsung to start and ur done
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1 -is that it??? are there any mod or rom or steps or watever things to be done anymore?
2- is that i've heard people saying that after rooting there camera crashes and that it gives error or black screen everytime they open it, is this true? if yes how to solve it?
3- is it possible to unroot device and get the settings and software like it was before, as if it wasnt rooted , in other words , wipe out and reinstall everything like it came from factory??
4- what are the consequences of rooting? will i really like throw my phone away in the trash incase something went wrong during rooting or after?
5- can i follow this steps to any samsung galaxy s3? how about samsung galaxy s2? and how about on samsung captivate glide?
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i will appreciate some experts and profesionals to answer my questions and dont forget to tell me if CF-Root-sgS3-v6.3 is the right .tar file for me
and incase you need any info about my device , tell me and i'll post them out cuz i dont know what you need
thank you
Here is a guide on How to root
http://galaxys3root.com/galaxy-s3-root/how-to-root-galaxy-s3/
Here is a guide to unroot
http://galaxys3root.com/galaxy-s3-unroot/how-to-unroot-galaxy-s3-i9300/
Also to answer your questions
1- Yes that is done aslong as in your apps menu you see CWM and SU app now on your phone.
2- Ive rooted my Galaxy S3 and never had a problem with the Camera at all. I think it just sometimes happens. If this happens to you then search the forum for possible fixes.
3- Yes it is possible to unroot your phone. Check the second link i gave you above for this.
4- Nothing is completely safe but if you follow the instruction fully then you should have no problems.
5- All i can advise is to follow each phones rooting tutorial to the letter and you should be safe.
Hope this helps.
ok thanks for the quick reply.. it surely helps
1 more thing i need help with.. titanium backup pro is for root users i guess, how do u suggest i backup my files and everything?
also can i backup data of games etc? whats the solution to not waste everything i've downloaded lately, like need for speed and other games/apps that i've downloaded each over 500 mb , will connecting my phone to my computer and copying all files on SD data folder, then after root i Paste them back to the SD data, will that work?
thanks again for the reply
Ive never used Titanium Backup at all so cant too much on that side of things. But rooting wont lose your apps and data so your safe in that front.
But if you find the titanium backup thread then they will be more than willing to help you out.
Hope this has helped
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda premium
Something not covered in Donsimmi posts above... Another way to unroot and return your phone to Stock is to flash a stock ROM. You can browse onsite for stock roms such as [ROM][CWM][XXDLI3 Jellybean 4.1.1] Odexed & Fully Deodexed Stock Roms - I'm a bit noob as well but I think all that means is they've done some tweaking on a stock ROM release - or you can find the latest Stock ROM for your region and search/download it from SamMobile
Some of the custom ROM's will leave you rooted and some don't, but you just run the Odin process again. Or you can get Mobile Odin Pro which can flash from on the phone and includes the function to add root and other things into the flash process.
I cannot emphasise enough, FOLLOW THE STEPS EXACTLY in the ROM descriptions. Things may still go funny at times but if you have precisely followed the steps you know where and perhaps why and you can help those who will help you fix things by saying, I did THIS, then THAT, then this happened. If you've gone off and done something not in the instructions, it makes it harder for anyone to understand what went wrong.
I've had 3 'Oh ****!' moments so far and each one I have been able to retrieve by having followed the instructions exactly.
Don't forget to enjoy it all... :fingers-crossed:
Oh, and Titanium? It does both apps and data, and you can choose to restore everything or just particular parts of the backup. But don't forget to find a program to back up your system as well.

[Q] Backup/Restore b4 return dilema.

so this is my problem. Im having some issues with my phone and I want it to be changed. The issues really dont matter. In order for my provider to send me another phone they want me to do a master reset. This of course will delete all my apps and settings. As far as I know there is not a backup app that once you restore the phone and apps the restored phone will have all it's app data in place, the icons will be where you want them, etc, just like you would from when you clone or make an image from a Hard Drive from pc... Or is there and application that will do this? My only other option (i believe) is to root the phone to then use an app to do a real backup, then unroot the phone, root the new phone and do the restore. I also have to remove the root from the old phone but can that be done without increasing the counter? This is all a big hassle. I cant believe you can do a real backup/restore on a phone nowadays....
If there is any other way to do it I will appreciate the help. I will have to do this in the next days since my warranty expires in a bit over a month...
Thanks!
You are correct ....
Rooting of the device is needed, then the unroot.
It's the only method I'm aware of in getting a full nandroid backup ..g
Sarge has it right if you want to use backup apps.
If you don't want to root, you will need to flash TWRP or CWR to get the custom recovery and backup. Then make a backup to your external SD card. Use recovery to factory reset. Send the phone away after removing SD card and sim card. The backup is called a nandroid and it is basically an image of the phone.
On new phone flash same recovery then restore the backup. When you start the phone it will be as the broken one was.
You can remove the recovery from the broken phone, but I never heard of anyone getting problems from the warranty people for that.
Thanks both of you guys for the information. I am getting ready to do the root not only for the backup but there are quite a few apps that I want to use that require root that I am going to have to do it.
Now, I started reading tonight and the more I read the more I get confused. Is there an official guide to root the note (specifically AT&T running ICS 4.0.4 if there is a difference) in a way that I can unroot it in the future avoiding tripping any counters?
I have read so many different threads about rooting, they tend to be different so I am looking for the "current" accepted "method" to do this with decent steps if possible. Thanks much!
Whoa whoa, are we forgetting about ADB Backup?
What do you mean CPA?
BTW, I want to root the stock att ics, I am not interested into flashing another rom.
Fernandq said:
What do you mean CPA?
BTW, I want to root the stock att ics, I am not interested into flashing another rom.
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Yeah I understand, you're wanting to do a full backup of your phone before you turn it in right? Or, at the very least, your apps and settings?
Welp, here you go: no root required.
A quick google search for "ADB backup" should get you the info you need as well.
Also looks like there's an XDA dev who came up with a much easier interface (as opposed to doing everything via command-line, which still isn't that difficult). Might be worth checking:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36499906
Edit: Read your second post, and it looks like you're interested in rooting...I guess I was confused as to your intentions after reading you first post, which just sounded like you didn't want to lose your info after doing a factory reset. Regardless, it is HIGHLY advised before doing any sort of root-related activity to do an ADB backup. That way, if anything goes wrong in the rooting process itself, or if you later decide you want to go back to stock and/or all of your original apps and settings from before the root, you can literally be back with a clean slate within a matter of minutes.
Thanks very much for the link. I have swapped phones already but it will be helpful before I root. THANKS!
after looking at adb I see it would not work for my initial needs as it only can be restored to the same device. I wanted something I could do a backup in the old one and restore that backup in the new one. Anyway, since I am past that anyway I am going to give it a try in theold device.... thanks!
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after looking at adb I see it would not work for my initial needs as it only can be restored to the same device. I wanted something I could do a backup in the old one and restore that backup in the new one. Anyway, since I am past that anyway I am going to give it a try in theold device.... thanks!
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The full backup, yes (regarding being able to only restore to the same device) but you could literally extract whatever data you want from the ADB backup using WinRar, then manually push it to your new device.
Apparently ADB backup is broke, it does not respect the -noshared flag and the resulting file is corrupted requiring more processing on the file for it to work... dang it! Seems it has been fixed in JB...
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=28303
http://www.acertabletforum.com/foru...stem-backup-ics-only-root-not-required-2.html
and there is more if you search the net.... Now, why will they not fix it is beyond me. Ok, so the command does not respect -noshared, that is easy to fix, I can just pull my sd card out but making an otherwise broken and unusable file giving the user the false sense of security and not fixing the bug is plain wrong... The only option will be to upgrade to JB but the official upgrade is not out and knowing at&t I wont be for a bit... I am not much into flashing leaked rom although that might change in the near future...
Thanks.
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Apparently ADB backup is broke, it does not respect the -noshared flag and the resulting file is corrupted requiring more processing on the file for it to work... dang it! Seems it has been fixed in JB...
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=28303
http://www.acertabletforum.com/foru...stem-backup-ics-only-root-not-required-2.html
and there is more if you search the net.... Now, why will they not fix it is beyond me. Ok, so the command does not respect -noshared, that is easy to fix, I can just pull my sd card out but making an otherwise broken and unusable file giving the user the false sense of security and not fixing the bug is plain wrong... The only option will be to upgrade to JB but the official upgrade is not out and knowing at&t I wont be for a bit... I am not much into flashing leaked rom although that might change in the near future...
Thanks.
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Well crap man, that sucks - sorry! I'm not gonna lie, I didn't read the link you posted as I'm pulling all nighters about 3 times a week during for the busy season of my profession (see my user name lol)...but you're saying that something actually went WRONG with the SDK on ICS firmware - and Google isn't fixing it?? That can't be right...right?
I can personally couch for this method, as I used it to make a full unrooted backup - of stock 4.0.4 ICS - back in October when I rooted my Note for the first time. And the first thing I did (per the rooting tutorial I was following) was verify the backup by doing a restore via ADB before I rooted - and everything worked fine. Like I said, sorry it's not working for you! Have you considered rooting, installing a custom recovery, doing a nandroid backup (and saving it someplace safe of course), then doing a full unroot back to stock + reset your flash counter? There are some great tutorials to walk you through all of that on the Galaxy Note Everything Thread in the General forum, in case that's an option.
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Well crap man, that sucks - sorry! I'm not gonna lie, I didn't read the link you posted as I'm pulling all nighters about 3 times a week during for the busy season of my profession (see my user name lol)...but you're saying that something actually went WRONG with the SDK on ICS firmware - and Google isn't fixing it?? That can't be right...right?
I can personally couch for this method, as I used it to make a full unrooted backup - of stock 4.0.4 ICS - back in October when I rooted my Note for the first time. And the first thing I did (per the rooting tutorial I was following) was verify the backup by doing a restore via ADB before I rooted - and everything worked fine. Like I said, sorry it's not working for you! Have you considered rooting, installing a custom recovery, doing a nandroid backup (and saving it someplace safe of course), then doing a full unroot back to stock + reset your flash counter? There are some great tutorials to walk you through all of that on the Galaxy Note Everything Thread in the General forum, in case that's an option.
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As mentioned in my post....
Root, full backup, and unroot is the fastest method......g
gregsarg said:
As mentioned in my post....
Root, full backup, and unroot is the fastest method......g
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But what's the point in putting things simply like that when I can write an entire paragraph saying the same thing, but more confusing??

[Q] I just rooted my age i717 Samsung gnote

Ok. I have at&t Samsung galaxy note i717. Earlier today I manually updated the software to jelly bean 4.1 and also unlocked it by following a YouTube video. Now. I have downloaded a few things, such as SU, CWM, titanium backup, twrp, and I think that's it. I barely know what any of these things do. I have already deleted all bloatware from my phone. I went to TWRP and I backed up my current settings to my sd card. I guess that's out of the way.
I am asking if anyone can please explain in detail and retard terms, what precautions should I take before I figure out how to flash new roms and kernels, and if i backed up my phone correctly so if I screw up, I can restore my phone.
I need someone to explain to me what process I should take in order to keep my phone safe and secure, how to get a rom for saving battery... Do you need to connect to a computer to do this? Someone please explain to me how to use all of these apps and roms safely! Thank you
Dblx327 said:
Ok. I have at&t Samsung galaxy note i717. Earlier today I manually updated the software to jelly bean 4.1 and also unlocked it by following a YouTube video. Now. I have downloaded a few things, such as SU, CWM, titanium backup, twrp, and I think that's it. I barely know what any of these things do. I have already deleted all bloatware from my phone. I went to TWRP and I backed up my current settings to my sd card. I guess that's out of the way.
I am asking if anyone can please explain in detail and retard terms, what precautions should I take before I figure out how to flash new roms and kernels, and if i backed up my phone correctly so if I screw up, I can restore my phone.
I need someone to explain to me what process I should take in order to keep my phone safe and secure, how to get a rom for saving battery... Do you need to connect to a computer to do this? Someone please explain to me how to use all of these apps and roms safely! Thank you
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Check Development area for roms. Read about them and figure which is best for you, And as far as flashing Roms TWRP is the best way to go
Dblx327 said:
Ok. I have at&t Samsung galaxy note i717. Earlier today I manually updated the software to jelly bean 4.1 and also unlocked it by following a YouTube video. Now. I have downloaded a few things, such as SU, CWM, titanium backup, twrp, and I think that's it. I barely know what any of these things do. I have already deleted all bloatware from my phone. I went to TWRP and I backed up my current settings to my sd card. I guess that's out of the way.
I am asking if anyone can please explain in detail and retard terms, what precautions should I take before I figure out how to flash new roms and kernels, and if i backed up my phone correctly so if I screw up, I can restore my phone.
I need someone to explain to me what process I should take in order to keep my phone safe and secure, how to get a rom for saving battery... Do you need to connect to a computer to do this? Someone please explain to me how to use all of these apps and roms safely! Thank you
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My opinion. Dont mess with it. If its battery life you're looking for go to amazon and buy an extended battery.
Flashing roms and kernels without having some sort of idea what you're doing could completely brick(ruin) your phone.
dweeezy said:
My opinion. Dont mess with it. If its battery life you're looking for go to amazon and buy an extended battery.
Flashing roms and kernels without having some sort of idea what you're doing could completely brick(ruin) your phone.
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Well, I already rooted my phone. It was pretty easy because I followed the steps correctly. And i don't want to buy a bulky battery, I also want to learn how to customize my phone.
I want to continue to research and learn about it so I don't hard brick my phone. I was hoping someone could at least explain the apps that I have downloaded. What each do. How to back up my phone settings to my sd card. Do I need each app that I downloaded, and when do I need to connect to a computer? When I go online and find a new rom and flash it over with Odin? I just want to know step by step process so I can learn this safely. Thanks
1 - Read the pinned threads at the top of the General section and the Q&A section.
2- Use Google.
Dblx327 said:
Ok. I have at&t Samsung galaxy note i717. Earlier today I manually updated the software to jelly bean 4.1 and also unlocked it by following a YouTube video. Now. I have downloaded a few things, such as SU, CWM, titanium backup, twrp, and I think that's it. I barely know what any of these things do. I have already deleted all bloatware from my phone. I went to TWRP and I backed up my current settings to my sd card. I guess that's out of the way.
I am asking if anyone can please explain in detail and retard terms, what precautions should I take before I figure out how to flash new roms and kernels, and if i backed up my phone correctly so if I screw up, I can restore my phone.
I need someone to explain to me what process I should take in order to keep my phone safe and secure, how to get a rom for saving battery... Do you need to connect to a computer to do this? Someone please explain to me how to use all of these apps and roms safely! Thank you
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SU is superuser. its for rooted andriods. basically when you try to go into an app that requires root superuser is what will grant that app permission to do what it wants to do.
a rooted android must have su or it wont have root access.
cwm,titanium backup, twrp- The only one of these i use is cwm. clockwork mod is simple. a stock phone has its own recovery. power on while holding up/down vol's and it boots into recovery. cwm is a modded recovery that allows you to do more. you open it the same way as the stock one but from there you can backup your entire phone, -roms and all. the way to put it on your phone is to download the appropraite one for your android version and also download odin. when odins open click pda, find the file, start phone in download mode (vol down and pwr) and click start. now there are a ton of tutorials but thats the gist of it. now after its back up you can try to flash roms, kernels, etc. most of them will be flashed via odin some you will drag onto your sd card and flash them via cwm(the install zip from sd card option).
When it comes to flashing stuff on your phone nothing is 100% safe and a backup isnt always going to fix a problem you may cause. dont flash anything you havent done research on. read the entire forum to see what problems people had and how they fixed them.
Most downloads youll find have step by step instructions, follow them.
Good luck

[Q] Updating firmware when already using link2sd and foldermount?

Hi, i'm on 4.1.2 and rooted using link2sd and foldermount so I can store apps on the external sd card. If I upgrade to 4.2.2 do I need to unroot first and then root again after flashing the new firmware?
Also i'm assuming i'm going to lose all my game saves etc as I will lose my link2sd and foldermount setups?
My phone is unlocked from the 3 network but still has the 3 network logo on boot up and so I thought if i'm going to have to start afresh I might as well get the stock unbranded S3 rom and get rid of the 3 network branding. I used Galaxsim unlock to unlock the network so i'm assuming I won't lose my network unlock by doing any of the above?
Thanks in advance for any help given.
Sp0oner said:
Hi, i'm on 4.1.2 and rooted using link2sd and foldermount so I can store apps on the external sd card. If I upgrade to 4.2.2 do I need to unroot first and then root again after flashing the new firmware?
Also i'm assuming i'm going to lose all my game saves etc as I will lose my link2sd and foldermount setups?
My phone is unlocked from the 3 network but still has the 3 network logo on boot up and so I thought if i'm going to have to start afresh I might as well get the stock unbranded S3 rom and get rid of the 3 network branding. I used Galaxsim unlock to unlock the network so i'm assuming I won't lose my network unlock by doing any of the above?
Thanks in advance for any help given.
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Just flash any rooted 4.2.2 ROM via custom recovery. You should take a titanium backup and a nandroid backup first. If it flashes without a wipe, you've lost nothing. If you do have to wipe, you can restore using Titanium. The Nandroid is a full system restore incase nothing works.
rootSU said:
Just flash any rooted 4.2.2 ROM via custom recovery. You should take a titanium backup and a nandroid backup first. If it flashes without a wipe, you've lost nothing. If you do have to wipe, you can restore using Titanium. The Nandroid is a full system restore incase nothing works.
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Thanks. As you can tell i'm not up to speed on android rooting as i'm an ex iphone devotee that was good with jailbreaking but i'm new to android rooting really.
If I take an already rooted rom that surely still overwrites my current data as a rom replaces what is already there doesn't it? Can titanium and nandroid backup to pc via usb cable as my 32gb sd card won't have enough room to backup onto as it's heavily used for foldermount and link2sd.
If I wanted a pre rooted 4.2.2 stock rom for the I9300 is that something I can find on this forum to safely download and try? And if for any reasom i'm not happy with it the nandroid backup will restore the phone back to my original rom and setup as if I hadn't changed roms?
Rom and data are different. Please read the link in my signature "read before reading". It should contain everything you need to know (i'm not just saying this because I wrote it, but its really essential).
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rootSU said:
Rom and data are different. Please read the link in my signature "read before reading". It should contain everything you need to know (i'm not just saying this because I wrote it, but its really essential).
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Thank you, again. I have read all that this morning and I am in no rush to change anything as one thing i've learnt from jailbreaking when I first got into it was rushing = ending up in a big mess and panicking you've bricked your device.
I rooted my S3 earlier this year and so I expect I still have all the files and the url of the guide I followed so I can check exactly what it was I did. My flash counter won't reset to zero which really bugged me and again another lesson learnt from doing something without fully checking the consequences.
I'm an IT engineer but all windows based so when it comes to android/linux what I think would be logical pretty much seems to go out the window!
Its always good to hold off and understand before moving forward. Read the thread through a few times.
I'm also a wintel IT engineer but I wanted to get into android development so I've been using Linux at home as my daily driver for 2 years.
If there's ever anything in that thread you want me to put into windows analogies or similes,,just ask in that thread. It will help me expand the thread also
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rootSU said:
Its always good to hold off and understand before moving forward. Read the thread through a few times.
I'm also a wintel IT engineer but I wanted to get into android development so I've been using Linux at home as my daily driver for 2 years.
If there's ever anything in that thread you want me to put into windows analogies or similes,,just ask in that thread. It will help me expand the thread also
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Thanks again. I've been having a play about today and firstly got a titanium backup done for everything and then copied to my laptop. Then got the online version of nandroid backup so no reboot required to take the backup and did a full one of those and copied to my laptop too.
I've checked what root process I followed and it was one posted on the s3 forums using GalaxyS3root which uses a file via odin called CF-Root-SGS3-v6.1.tar. I won't post the link in case it breaks any rules etc. After reading your other post as advised I get the impression i'm not going to be able to reset my flash counter to zero. I have tried triangle away but it doesn't succeed.
As Android 4.3 is out/due out i'm now thinking pointless moving to 4.2.2 and I should wait and got straight to 4.3. Now what I wanted to ask was the following...
If I took titanium backup and then undid all my link2sd and foldermount links and then unrooted would I be able to flash the stock 4.3 rom when available, root it then reset up link2sd and foldermount and restore the titanium backup and have all my apps back to how they were?
I want to get an unmodified samsung rom that is unbranded so I can get rid of my 3 network branding I currently have on boot up. I also want to know if it is possible in anyway to reset the flash counter so I could in theory if unrooted get ota updates.
First question...
If you wipe and manually set up link2sd - when you then restore via titanium everything should be as it was.
You can reset the counter before unrooting. Theres a return-to-stock guide stuck in the "sticky roll-up thread" that covers it. The counter goes up to 1 on boot so the trick is to prevent the boot...
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rootSU said:
First question...
If you wipe and manually set up link2sd - when you then restore via titanium everything should be as it was.
You can reset the counter before unrooting. Theres a return-to-stock guide stuck in the "sticky roll-up thread" that covers it. The counter goes up to 1 on boot so the trick is to prevent the boot...
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Thanks, so the counter can't be cleared permanently for warranty purposes as a reboot will just put it back to 1. So as I have a custom recovery on the phone that went on with the root will that cause issues if I tried to update via official updates?
It can be prevented with an ics bootloader.
Imho its best to stay away from official updates when rooted
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rootSU said:
It can be prevented with an ics bootloader.
Imho its best to stay away from official updates when rooted
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Thanks. An ics bootloader however will just further invalidate the warranty and also prevent stock updates? What I had been getting at with wanting to do stock updates was to unroot first. However now i've got the custom recovery there that in itself makes stock updates an unwise move even with rooting removed?
So with my current setup what is the best method to go to 4.2.2 without using a custom rom?
They check warranty by looking at the information provided in the bootloader. Your warranty is either void or not void. There is no such thing as further invalidation. Its 0 or 1. There is no 2.
There is no "best way" without using a "custom rom". If you want to flash a stock rom, do it. Theres only one way.
By the way, 4.2.2 hasn't been officially released, so you wont be getting stock updates. You'll have to manually keep flashing release via odin until you get one that is official. Then if your csc is wrong, you have to change it (which requires factory reset) and then you will still only get updates over USB if you're rooted.
Don't get me wrong, but that sounds ridiculous to me. I just don't understand any rooted user wanting to do that
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rootSU said:
They check warranty by looking at the information provided in the bootloader. Your warranty is either void or not void. There is no such thing as further invalidation. Its 0 or 1. There is no 2.
There is no "best way" without using a "custom rom". If you want to flash a stock rom, do it. Theres only one way.
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By the way, 4.2.2 hasn't been officially released
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Thanks for the quick reply. I've just read through the link on your thread for returning to stock and unless i've misread it you can actually return to stock even if you have installed a custom recovery/used the auto cf root method of rooting? That's step 16?
Sorry on the invalidating warranty thing, what I meant was that if you use the ics bootloader you fix the triangleaway issue but you are then left with the ics bootloader so your warranty is still invalid.
My mistake on 4.2.2, what's the latest official version as if I plug into kies it tells me there is an update available which i'd wrongly assumed was 4.2.2?
4.1.2 is the latest.
They don't check bootloader version for warranty. They only check download mode.
You can return to stock so long as phone fully boots and usb works. If phone only partially boots, you can't return to stock or reset counter. This is why IMHO its better to have an ics bootloader where counter is always in the reset state
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rootSU said:
You can return to stock so long as phone fully boots and usb works. If phone only partially boots, you can't return to stock or reset counter. This is why IMHO its better to have an ics bootloader where counter is always in the reset state
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OK this has totally lost me now, I need to do some more reading! Also i'm on 4.1.2 yet if I plug into Kies ittells me there is an update available.
Sp0oner said:
OK this has totally lost me now, I need to do some more reading! Also i'm on 4.1.2 yet if I plug into Kies ittells me there is an update available.
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An update won't necessarily update the android version. It will update the Samsung build version. Samsung have probably close to 100 updates on 4.1.2 (globally).
Android is just the base OS. It has Samsung GUI on top of that (and frameworks to support Samsung proprietary features). So Samsung take the android code for 4.1.2 and add all their stuff to it. But they will improve on that over a number of builds. Fixing bugs, addressing performance issues etc.
However, Samsung tend to release new features in line with android base updates too. so if Samsung are working on 4.1.2 and decide, "hey this feature would be cool", they would usually wait for the next android version to release it.
Hope that makes sense
Did that address your confusion?
Or is your confusion about returning to stock?
You return to stock by flashing a full ROM (which includes a bootloader, Android ROM, Recovery, baseband etc) over USB connection to a computer. The phone is put into download mode and flashed. if your USB is faulty, this wont work (obviously).
Before returning to stock, you need to ensure your download mode doesnt show how many times you flashed custom things. You can reset it then flash stock and warranty is fine. However, to reset it, android needs to boot, so if android doesnt boot and counter says more than "0", you've lost warranty, With ICS bootloader, you reset it once and it always says "0", so you are protected if phone doesnt boot.
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An update won't necessarily update the android version. It will update the Samsung build version. Samsung have probably close to 100 updates on 4.1.2 (globally).
Android is just the base OS. It has Samsung GUI on top of that (and frameworks to support Samsung proprietary features). So Samsung take the android code for 4.1.2 and add all their stuff to it. But they will improve on that over a number of builds. Fixing bugs, addressing performance issues etc.
However, Samsung tend to release new features in line with android base updates too. so if Samsung are working on 4.1.2 and decide, "hey this feature would be cool", they would usually wait for the next android version to release it.
Hope that makes sense
Did that address your confusion?
Or is your confusion about returning to stock?
You return to stock by flashing a full ROM (which includes a bootloader, Android ROM, Recovery, baseband etc) over USB connection to a computer. The phone is put into download mode and flashed. if your USB is faulty, this wont work (obviously).
Before returning to stock, you need to ensure your download mode doesnt show how many times you flashed custom things. You can reset it then flash stock and warranty is fine. However, to reset it, android needs to boot, so if android doesnt boot and counter says more than "0", you've lost warranty, With ICS bootloader, you reset it once and it always says "0", so you are protected if phone doesnt boot.
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Thanks for both explanations :good: It was the ics bootloader I was really confused about. I'm in two minds as to change anything, the techy part of me says play with it and learn and understand more about what you've explained but the other side says i've got everything setup perfectly at the moment now I have link2sd and foldermount working and not to risk ruining that setup. I think the only thing i'd notice from 4.2.2 is the access camera from the lock screen feature.
Sp0oner said:
Thanks for both explanations :good: It was the ics bootloader I was really confused about. I'm in two minds as to change anything, the techy part of me says play with it and learn and understand more about what you've explained but the other side says i've got everything setup perfectly at the moment now I have link2sd and foldermount working and not to risk ruining that setup. I think the only thing i'd notice from 4.2.2 is the access camera from the lock screen feature.
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If you want to continue to use stock.....
1) Backup all your app data with titanium backup (as a precaution)
2) Copy all internal /sdcard data to PC
3) Flash whatever "official" ROM you want via Odin
4) If it doesn't boot, perform factory reset#
5) re root using either cf auto root or framaroot (both do not give custom recovery)
6) Install Titanium backup and restore data.
Its worth noting a factory reset from custom recovery only wipes data and settings. A reset from stock recovery wipes internal /sdcard storage too.
rootSU said:
If you want to continue to use stock.....
1) Backup all your app data with titanium backup (as a precaution)
2) Copy all internal /sdcard data to PC
3) Flash whatever "official" ROM you want via Odin
4) If it doesn't boot, perform factory reset#
5) re root using either cf auto root or framaroot (both do not give custom recovery)
6) Install Titanium backup and restore data.
Its worth noting a factory reset from custom recovery only wipes data and settings. A reset from stock recovery wipes internal /sdcard storage too.
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Thanks again :good: I have CWM installed and when I open CWM Manager I get a message "this version of CWM Manager should be used with CF-CWM v1.1 or newer. It appears you are running a different recovery. Various features have been disabled."
If I boot into recovery at the top it says "CWM-based recovery v5.5.04 :: CF-v1.3"
What effect does any of that have on the above steps?
Sp0oner said:
Thanks again :good: I have CWM installed and when I open CWM Manager I get a message "this version of CWM Manager should be used with CF-CWM v1.1 or newer. It appears you are running a different recovery. Various features have been disabled."
If I boot into recovery at the top it says "CWM-based recovery v5.5.04 :: CF-v1.3"
What effect does any of that have on the above steps?
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CWM manager is an app to manage CWM. Its pretty pointless. I dont think it works on JB ROMs though.
CWM 5 is old and should be replaced by users who want to continue using a custom recovery.
The flashing stock from Odin process will overwrite any bootloader, recovery, ROM and Baseband. Nothing you have can prevent that.

[Q] How to root without loosing data?

This is the first time for me with an HTC device. So I need a little help.
I am trying to find a way for rooting the phone without loosing any data or configuration. Can somebody help me?
My phone is HTC One X+ running Android 4.2.2 with Sense 5.
In case I need to take claim the warranty of the phone what I would have to do? Is there something I should do before rooting the device, so that I will be able to unroot it?
Thanks a lot in advance!
obscurant1st said:
This is the first time for me with an HTC device. So I need a little help.
I am trying to find a way for rooting the phone without loosing any data or configuration. Can somebody help me?
My phone is HTC One X+ running Android 4.2.2 with Sense 5.
In case I need to take claim the warranty of the phone what I would have to do? Is there something I should do before rooting the device, so that I will be able to unroot it?
Thanks a lot in advance!
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I don't know all the answers to your questions but let me help you make something clear.
Unlocking the bootloader is different from "rooting"
Your warranty is voided when you unlock the bootloader, which is an important step to actually "root". Your bootloader is what you see when you reboot and hold volume down. The step of unlocking the bootloader is the step that cause you to lose your data. So I recommend you to connect your phone and copy all the valuable information and files on it to your PC, then once this step is done you can copy it back.
Rooting: Becoming the administrator of your phone (like sudo in linux) , Becoming a SUPERUSER , meaning you can change system files and so forth and so on (Thats the general explanation however since we all have S-ON so its called temporary root but lets not get ourselves to that yet)
How can you gain root access?
1-Unlock the bootloader
2-Install a custom recovery
3-flash "superuser.zip"(which will be included in almost all the guides that you will follow to root your phone)
Once you have root access you will be able to play with your phone settings , but be careful not to break the settings.
Now concerning your final question , how to "unroot"?
Before you flash "superuser.zip (which will be the real "rooting" of your phone) , you will go to your "custom recovery" (most popular onces are TWRP and CWM) and go to an option called "Backup" and you do a backup called "nandroid backup" , which copies your phone AS IT IS , which then you can copy it to your PC. You will be able to restore it using the recovery you had installed as it is. Which technically will "unroot" your phone.
Question you might ask: That is so cool, but can't I do it before unlocking the bootloader and losing all my data? from my EXPERIENCE and what I searched , No.
Then how will I benefit? Since having root access to your phone might put your phone in danger of breaking something , or installing a bad ROM (read about this topic before rooting. Here is a summary: "HTC Sense" is a ROM. "Samsung TouchWIZ" is a ROM, "Stock Android" is a ROM) you will have a full safe backup that you will be able to restore so you can have your phone running again.
Also note the following: Once you have a custom recovery you will be able to install custom roms , when you install custom roms your APPs are deleted BUT the data IN your SDcard directory will not be harmed (Music, pics..etc)
So how can I recover my applications? By installing "titanium backup" you will be able to backup all your applications apk and data, saved to your internal storage, so when you switch roms , you need to redownload the app and then restore your data, and you will have all your data back.
So why can't I use that before I unlock the bootloader? Because Titanium backup ITSELF requires root access to access your apps apks and do full backups.
Also a note, when flashing your FIRST ROM, you will sweat like a pig when you get stuck on "Boot screen" , its called a "BOOT LOOP" , do not fear. Since HTC has all the bootloaders S-ON (till now) you will need when you switch ROMS to flash the boot.img to your phone. HOW?
Google "Fastboot flash boot boot.img HTC" and you will see tons of guides. It should also be noted in every single custom ROM guide that you will need to follow that STEP.
ALSO!!! Do NOT FORGET TO MAKE A NANDROID BACKUP BEFORE ROOTING AND BEFORE ATTEMPTING TO FLASH A CUSTOM ROM!! AND DONT INSTALL A CUSTOM ROM FOR "AT&T" AND YOUR PHONE IS INTERNATIONAL AND VICE VERSA.
I rooted my phone and I wish I had someone to tell me that in a single post , so I spent around 10 minutes writing this guide , which I hope people will find useful.
Best of luck mate
Also note that this is the wrong section, since its a question it should go to "Q&A section".
Ghand0ur said:
I don't know all the answers to your questions but let me help you make something clear.
Unlocking the bootloader is different from "rooting"
Your warranty is voided when you unlock the bootloader, which is an important step to actually "root". Your bootloader is what you see when you reboot and hold volume down. The step of unlocking the bootloader is the step that cause you to lose your data. So I recommend you to connect your phone and copy all the valuable information and files on it to your PC, then once this step is done you can copy it back.
Rooting: Becoming the administrator of your phone (like sudo in linux) , Becoming a SUPERUSER , meaning you can change system files and so forth and so on (Thats the general explanation however since we all have S-ON so its called temporary root but lets not get ourselves to that yet)
How can you gain root access?
1-Unlock the bootloader
2-Install a custom recovery
3-flash "superuser.zip"(which will be included in almost all the guides that you will follow to root your phone)
Once you have root access you will be able to play with your phone settings , but be careful not to break the settings.
Now concerning your final question , how to "unroot"?
Before you flash "superuser.zip (which will be the real "rooting" of your phone) , you will go to your "custom recovery" (most popular onces are TWRP and CWM) and go to an option called "Backup" and you do a backup called "nandroid backup" , which copies your phone AS IT IS , which then you can copy it to your PC. You will be able to restore it using the recovery you had installed as it is. Which technically will "unroot" your phone.
Question you might ask: That is so cool, but can't I do it before unlocking the bootloader and losing all my data? from my EXPERIENCE and what I searched , No.
Then how will I benefit? Since having root access to your phone might put your phone in danger of breaking something , or installing a bad ROM (read about this topic before rooting. Here is a summary: "HTC Sense" is a ROM. "Samsung TouchWIZ" is a ROM, "Stock Android" is a ROM) you will have a full safe backup that you will be able to restore so you can have your phone running again.
Also note the following: Once you have a custom recovery you will be able to install custom roms , when you install custom roms your APPs are deleted BUT the data IN your SDcard directory will not be harmed (Music, pics..etc)
So how can I recover my applications? By installing "titanium backup" you will be able to backup all your applications apk and data, saved to your internal storage, so when you switch roms , you need to redownload the app and then restore your data, and you will have all your data back.
So why can't I use that before I unlock the bootloader? Because Titanium backup ITSELF requires root access to access your apps apks and do full backups.
Also a note, when flashing your FIRST ROM, you will sweat like a pig when you get stuck on "Boot screen" , its called a "BOOT LOOP" , do not fear. Since HTC has all the bootloaders S-ON (till now) you will need when you switch ROMS to flash the boot.img to your phone. HOW?
Google "Fastboot flash boot boot.img HTC" and you will see tons of guides. It should also be noted in every single custom ROM guide that you will need to follow that STEP.
ALSO!!! Do NOT FORGET TO MAKE A NANDROID BACKUP BEFORE ROOTING AND BEFORE ATTEMPTING TO FLASH A CUSTOM ROM!! AND DONT INSTALL A CUSTOM ROM FOR "AT&T" AND YOUR PHONE IS INTERNATIONAL AND VICE VERSA.
I rooted my phone and I wish I had someone to tell me that in a single post , so I spent around 10 minutes writing this guide , which I hope people will find useful.
Best of luck mate
Also note that this is the wrong section, since its a question it should go to "Q&A section".
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Thanks a lot for explaining all these stuffs to me. Really appreciate it. I knew a few of the things already from what you wrote, but I must say a lot of these are completely new info for me!
So tl;dr I can't root without unlocking the bootloader!
Thats so sad. I wanted to save all the games and stuffs' data so that I won't have to redownload all the games. (
obscurant1st said:
Thanks a lot for explaining all these stuffs to me. Really appreciate it. I knew a few of the things already from what you wrote, but I must say a lot of these are completely new info for me!
So tl;dr I can't root without unlocking the bootloader!
Thats so sad. I wanted to save all the games and stuffs' data so that I won't have to redownload all the games. (
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I know its sort of tiring but honestly the payoff is massive, atleast to me. I explored things I didn't know about my phone. I learned information about how the phone is made. These information help you.
Inaddition to having custom ROMs, rooting offers you the benefit of backing up your games which is not available on stock.
Anyway, Best of luck, android is a great world to explore.
I however must give credit to every single one that helped me on that topic, and that's my way of paying them back. To Help others like me who need help
obscurant1st said:
Thanks a lot for explaining all these stuffs to me. Really appreciate it. I knew a few of the things already from what you wrote, but I must say a lot of these are completely new info for me!
So tl;dr I can't root without unlocking the bootloader!
Thats so sad. I wanted to save all the games and stuffs' data so that I won't have to redownload all the games. (
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If you root now, you'll be able to use titanium backup and backup all the data you want! Then you can transfer these game and app datas across any android device in the future!
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If you root now, you'll be able to use titanium backup and backup all the data you want! Then you can transfer these game and app datas across any android device in the future!
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DON'T STEEL MY INFORMATION DSAHGASHNJKGJSKBGJKS GJKBA I ALREADY SAID THAT IN THE LONG LONG LONG LONG POST DJGKBASKGJSAGAS
Just kidding, If you missed what I said about titanium backup, its true, once you are root you won't lose your game data and stuff any longer.
Have been lots way but there is no
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